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I AM NO LONGER ACCEPTING E-MAILS!  THANKS ALL!

Alright, since Hyatt went and got his wife pregnant, I'm going to be running things around here this year.

Firstly, and echoing what Hyatt said in the other thread, I teel that the best thing would be to have multiple leagues depending on the amount of interest.  It will probably end up being two leagues, but if enough people want to play, we could end up making it three.  Personally, I would say 10-12 team leagues would probably be best.  What I would like to be able to do is continue this yearly, so starting next year we can start having a upper-tier and lower-tier league.  Then what we could do is every year have the worst few teams from the upper-tier drop to the lower tier and the best few teams from the lower tier move to the upper tier.

Secondly: I think that probably the best time to get the draft(s) done will probably be around a week or so before the start of the season.  The first game is April 4, so sometime around the end of March will probably be ideal.

Third: If everyone who wants to be involved could please e-mail me, that would be marvelous.  It would make it much easier for me to keep everything in order that way.  Please include your BCB username, and what date between March 25-April 2 would work best for you as it stands right now.  I know it is kind of far in advance and things will change so I will check back in again when the end of spring training is near.  I would just like to get a general overview right now.  My email can be found at my userpage or by scrolling to the bottom of the page and clicking the envelope by my name under "Contributors".

Last, is there anything particular anybody wants--I think that probably most people would be more comfortable with a serpentine draft rather than a Auction, but feel free to voice otherwise.  Everyone cool with standard 5x5?  Points or Head to Head?  Want to draft sooner?  Hate me being in charge?  Feel like there isn't enough food at this party?  Feel free to discuss what you'd prefer in the comments.

Oh, and Yahoo! or ESPN for hosting the league?  Or another free host if you know one.

And I dibs Pujols.

Thanks all!

Poll
Who will be the best BCB fantasy baseballer in 2010?
Hyatt (Because he is the resident fantasy expert)
1 votes
Saberilliterate (Because he was one step ahead and already thinking about fantasy baseball)
1 votes
BrewCrewShrew (Because he will be defending his title)
2 votes
Noah (Because he will rig it)
5 votes
Me, stupid, that's why I'm signing up!
7 votes
Ned Yost (Because he'll draft run scorers)
14 votes

30 votes | Poll has closed

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Oh yeah

And if you’re not going to be active, please don’t sign up.

It’s not very fun having people who make it through a week and then stop checking in. At least be able to check if you have any trade offers or something like that.

by NoahJ on Feb 26, 2010 6:14 PM CST reply actions  

I would totally do this...

… except I suck at fantasy baseball and will be lost in the mountains during the draft.

Other than that, though…

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 26, 2010 6:29 PM CST reply actions  

Any time around those dates that would work for you?

They are not set in stone, just what I think would generally be preferable.

by NoahJ on Feb 27, 2010 1:11 AM CST up reply actions  

As you might tell from my name, I too suck – yet I still finished middle of the pack…

by Saberilliterate on Feb 27, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I would join,

but I told myself I would never play fantasy baseball. Baseball takes up too much of my life already.

by BrewHaHeather on Feb 26, 2010 9:04 PM CST reply actions  

Aw yeah

Sign me up!

My personal preferences: I dig Yahoo over ESPN and still have room for one more Yahoo league in my fantasy profile. I’m starting to enjoy auction now that there are tools for auction mock drafting, but have no disdain for a normal serpentine draft. I’d prefer the draft to be any time on the weekend, or a weekday between 2 and 8 am (impossible, I know). I like rotisserie scoring over H2H. Standard 5×5 scoring is cool. I prefer cake over pie, but am not ashamed to consume the occasional piece of apple pie, as long as I have enough whipped cream.

by Acheron on Feb 27, 2010 1:10 AM CST reply actions  

Question

how often does the average player make lineup changes, etc? I have only played fantasy football and hat doesn’t take too much time.

Q: Did you ever scout Corey Hart? What seems to be holding him back from being a good hitter for AVG?

A: The slider away. And that facial hair.

-Keith Law ESPN chat 2/11/10

by molitorfan on Feb 27, 2010 6:57 AM CST reply actions  

On whichever platform we played on last year

(Was it Yahoo or ESPN, does anyone remember?) you could make lineup changes in advance, so really you only had to check in maybe once a week if you wanted to, and when injuries occur of course. If you’re really dedicated, you could tinker with your line-up day-to-day to try to somehow get a really good read on which players are struggling. I think I just logged in most mornings to see how my team did the day before, but made lineup switches ievery 2-3 days normally.

by NoahJ on Feb 27, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Last year, I tinkered once every few days. Because it showed projected pitchers you could tinker a few days in advance to get the matchup you wanted.

I only went on maybe twice a week and spent 1/2 hour each time.

Last year was a Serpentine Draft with Rotisserie 5×5 scoring.

by Saberilliterate on Feb 27, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

My preferences

Serpentine draft works for me. But primarily because I don’t know what an auction draft is.

I have no preference over Rotisserie over H2H.

Please keep the leagues small. 10-12 is very workable. Even a 14 team league would leave workable scraps on the pile for mid-season pickups. 20 teams made it so that teams were picking up Claudio Vargas for saves and innings.

Can we expand on the 5×5? With a standard 5×5 we miss out on OBP, Slugging, OBS, and walks. On the pitching side we miss out on key metrics of FIP, BB – okay can’t think of anything else to add to pitching but didn’t want to leave them out.

I would prefer to draft on a weekend. But if that isn’t possible I can set up the auto draft.

I like Mint Chocolate Chip ice cream over cake and pie, but in reality, I won’t turn down cake or pie if it is put in front of me. I also have become a fan of the New Glarus Cherry Stout. It tastes like chocolate covered cherries marinating in coffee.

by Saberilliterate on Feb 27, 2010 11:48 AM CST reply actions  

And no – I didn’t vote for myself in the poll. I have as much confidence in myself as I do in Jeff Suppan getting a dozen complete game shutouts this season

by Saberilliterate on Feb 27, 2010 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

6 x 6?

Add holds and OPS? 7 × 7, add walks (for batters) and FIP?

by brewcrewshrew on Mar 1, 2010 8:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Depending

Depending on which site we go with we should adjust the league size. On ESPN, the teams are usually bigger so in a 12 or 14 team league there are barely enough players to fill it out.

by B0Jesus on Mar 2, 2010 8:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Good point.

Can’t you adjust how many slots/positions you want in your league, though?

by NoahJ on Mar 2, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe

I’ve never started my own league on ESPN..I’ve only played public leagues so I’m not sure of what options they give you.

by B0Jesus on Mar 3, 2010 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

That would be kind of similar to the effect that having 20 teams had.

It would water down the players enough where it starts to lost it’s fun. In my opinion, anyway.

by NoahJ on Feb 27, 2010 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

^^^^^^^^this^^^^^^^^^

Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.

@atmeiller

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Feb 27, 2010 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Imagine if there were 20 teams, divided into two divisions – one AL-only, one NL-only. I could see that being entertaining.

by Acheron on Feb 27, 2010 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Update

So far I have twelve peoples e-mails in. That’s enough for one league so far!

by NoahJ on Feb 28, 2010 8:46 PM CST reply actions  

Glad to see my title remains

and I was able to vote for myself. AWESOME!!!

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Mar 1, 2010 10:02 AM CST reply actions  

Another league...

Not to thread hi-jack, but my league is looking for one more person….

Auction style draft (would have to be present for that), run through Yahoo. AL & NL, rotisserie style, categories of AVG, HR, RBI, SB, OPS, W, ERA, SV, WHIP, K/B. 10 teams total, each starts 9 pitchers and 14 position players, 7 bench. There are trades and plenty of offers during the year, its competitive somewhat but nothing overwhelming. More work than football I’d say, which is a pro or con how you look at it. League has been around since 2005 with a good core of 7-8 guys, always seems we have 1-2 on the fence each year though. We are a fun and welcoming people, so don’t be afraid, we won’t bite. Team fee is $50 with minor costs of $1 per trade, etc. Contact me if any questions.

Tentative draft date is Sunday March 28th in Muskego….respond or e-mail if interested: paulwbaumgart@yahoo.com .

Gas to Chicago- $23.87 A's/White Sox Tix- $28 Watching the A's whipping the Sox in July 05'- Priceless

by WiscoFan on Mar 1, 2010 5:51 PM CST reply actions  

Anyone?

Just need one more person! If you didn’t get into the BCB league and are interested, please consider mine. :D

Gas to Chicago- $23.87 A's/White Sox Tix- $28 Watching the A's whipping the Sox in July 05'- Priceless

by WiscoFan on Mar 6, 2010 12:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd like in.

Serpentine’s good. I prefer head-2-head. Only for the familiarity of it, but I’ll pick it up, I’m sure…

by kgaul on Mar 1, 2010 10:27 PM CST reply actions  

Cool. Drop me an email if you don't mind.

It makes it easier to keep track of, and I’ll need your email to invite you in the league.

by NoahJ on Mar 2, 2010 1:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Okay, with kgaul that will make 19 people so far.

One more will give us two leagues of ten each. Still plenty of room for anyone who wants to join up!

And right now I am thinking that the best way to divide the leagues is going to be by who wants which draft time—weekend or weekday. If anyone has a strong preference for either or and didn’t specify in their email, feel free to comment here. I would like to get as many people as I can to attend a live draft, so if you do feel that you would be more available on a weekday or weekend, please let me know here.

by NoahJ on Mar 2, 2010 1:10 AM CST reply actions  

I'd have to know the dates, but I think I'd prefer weekday.

My birthday is the 25th, and I don’t think I’ll feel like doing a fantasy draft that night.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Mar 2, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

But what better present than Albert Pujols on your bday!?

Get out of my dreams and into my Chuckie Carr
-Molitorfan 12/23/09

by Michael M on Mar 2, 2010 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Beer.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Mar 2, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

also, cheese

Q: Did you ever scout Corey Hart? What seems to be holding him back from being a good hitter for AVG?

A: The slider away. And that facial hair.

-Keith Law ESPN chat 2/11/10

by molitorfan on Mar 2, 2010 7:55 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Prince signing an affordable long term contract to stay with the Brewers

by Saberilliterate on Mar 3, 2010 5:49 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

^THIS

dickie_thon: Third baseman Bill Hall / Watches the third strike go by / Gamel grabs his glove

by GoGregGo on Mar 3, 2010 8:34 AM CST up reply actions  

If you lose?

Your life.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Mar 3, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

None.

I am determined to keep the leagues free so more people who want to play, will.

The prize will be bragging rights. Unless there is a strong preference where everyone pays the winner of their league $5 or something.

by NoahJ on Mar 3, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Excellent

I already play in two fantasy football leagues every year that aren’t free… I don’t need yet another fantasy league to take more of my money.

by sjlee on Mar 3, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Today's update:

We are now at 24 players. If this keeps up, we might have to divide into three leagues!

by NoahJ on Mar 3, 2010 8:36 PM CST reply actions  

Wow.

That is a very sad b-ref page. I wonder how they got the name.

by NoahJ on Mar 3, 2010 10:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey

Hall-of-Famer Mordecai “Three-finger” Brown – one of my favorite old-time players – was apparently on that team at the tail-end of his career.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Mar 4, 2010 12:14 AM CST up reply actions  

E-Mail sent

to your account, sign this guy up. The more fantasy baseball the better.

"I held it like and egg...? I know he scrambled the son of a bitch!"

by BRWRSFAN39 on Mar 4, 2010 12:03 AM CST reply actions  

OK. We are officially at 25 people.

Is there one more person out there who wants to join, so we can have even leagues? If so, please e-mail me. First person to send me an e-mail (not just a comment on this thread) will be in. I am cutting it off after that.

by NoahJ on Mar 4, 2010 6:17 PM CST reply actions  

Nobody so far for the last spot?

If we plan on doing this relegation style, we probably need even amounts of teams in both leagues, to make it more fair.

Somebody out there want to join?

by NoahJ on Mar 4, 2010 10:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Great!

I think I was already counting you from your previous e-mail, though, so we still do need one more probably.

by NoahJ on Mar 5, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

When are the drafts?

I see you sent me an invite to the weekend league. When’s the draft for that? When’s the weekday draft?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Mar 7, 2010 9:57 PM CST reply actions  

Right now

Weekend is Sunday the 28, weekday is Wednesday the 31, both in the evening.

Both subject to change.

by NoahJ on Mar 7, 2010 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Any chance I could get in the weekday instead?

Does anybody want to switch from the weekday to the weekend?

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Mar 8, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll try to work it out.

Otherwise, if anyone on the weekday wants to switch to weekend and sees this feel free to comment here.

by NoahJ on Mar 8, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I didn't realize there were two different leagues

What’s the difference… just the draft date?

by sjlee on Mar 8, 2010 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes.

One is a weekend and one is a weekday. Also, the weekend is the CBS league, weekday is Yahoo!, though they are both going to be the same format, so the points and everything should be the same. That way next year we can seperate into an upper-tier and lower-tier and start doing relegation. This year I tried to divide it into who wanted a weekend draft and who wanted a weekday draft. Those who didn’t state a preference, I just randomly divided them into one or the other.

by NoahJ on Mar 8, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Howdy.

I’m starting a new league and I posted a FanShot inviting anyone who is interested to join.

Check it out?

Thanks.

"Let's get this movie. We already have the underwear."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 9, 2010 10:07 PM CST reply actions  

Ugh

CBSSports.com can blow me. I didn’t think I’d see a fantasy host I disliked more than ESPN, but I certainly have.

by Acheron on Mar 13, 2010 12:50 AM CST reply actions  

Someone want to please summarize how scoring works in the league?

Previously when I played fantasy baseball, we did head-to-head scoring.

This one seems to be rotisserie (mmm… chicken). Does this mean that we simply accrue points each week and the winner is whomever scores the most points at the end of the season?

Also, how does the draft work? Just pick whomever you want or is there a value attached to each player and you cannot exceed a limit for your entire roster?

by sjlee on Mar 15, 2010 4:05 PM CDT reply actions  

It's basic. I'll have a larger post on it tomorrow.

Rotisserie basically just means the highest point total for each category gets 14 points, lowest gets one. So, if your team was 1st in HR, you would get 14 points for that category. If you were 5th in ERA, you would get 9 points, giving you a total of 23 for those two statistics. Then just keep adding where you land for each other statistic. I know there were a variety of strategies last year. Some people chose to punt a statistic or two (I went without pretty much any steals) in favor of getting high totals on other stats. Other people went for balance throughout.

And the draft is just going to be snake, pick whoever you want—no values attached to a player.

by NoahJ on Mar 15, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think someone's suggested a reverse fantasy league like that before.

You would need minimums for innings pitched, at-bats, etc. Lowest point total wins.

by NoahJ on Mar 15, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be very interesting

I think the minimums should be equivalent to a full-time player. Can you imagine what the rosters would look like with the worst starters from each team? If we go that route, I’ve got dibs on Kendall.

by sjlee on Mar 16, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Razzball runs a (points) league like that every year

The scoring is:
Hitters
AB: +2
H: -3
R: -4
HR: -10
RBI: -4
K: +2

Pitchers
IP: -1
HR: +4
L: +8
K: -1
ER: +1.5
H/BB: +1

And yes, Jason Kendall is a perennial top 10 player (even at the especially weak position of catcher, which in this league makes it the strongest position)

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Mar 16, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

Wow, it’s definitely going to be a learning season for me… never played that type of fantasy league before.

I have more questions, but I’ll wait for your larger post.

by sjlee on Mar 16, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

You'll pick it up fast. It's probably the most common type of fantasy baseball league

It forces you to field an all around team, rather than ignoring SB and Saves.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Mar 16, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

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