It started as a salute to his father, but it became an act of team unity.

Continuing to untuck after Cameron is gone is a metaphor, sort of a passing of the torch. Cameron was brought in to mentor and lead the young players. Now that he’s leaving, those ‘young players’ are taking what they learned and becoming leaders, themselves.

I think Cameron will be happy to have left his mark on the club.

It shows unity and gives the team a little character.

The only problem I have with backtocali’s argument was #2. Its such a simple thing it can hardly be considered showboating. I don’t have any problem with Valverde pointing to the other team or Zambrano pumping his fist. They’re excited and its just an outburst of emotion. I do have a problem with Pujols staring at his home runs because he trashed Braun and Fielder for doing the same thing. That’s not right.

It’s not a choreographed dance in the end zone, its just untucking a shirt.

No, the millionaire athletes are not blue collar workers, but they were not always millionaires. They worked VERY hard to get where they are, and it should be OK to go back to their roots.

If winning is an acceptable reason for untucking, does that mean the Yankees can do whatever they want? Because they win all the time, does that mean they can give the other team the finger when they win?

The ONLY thing against the Brewers untucking is it looks somewhat sloppy. It kind of looks they are wearing a dress at the end. But, in the end, the Brewers are not hurting anyone, and are celebrating with their fans. It has been a long time since Brewer fans have been excited about anything. Isn’t it great that even with a “losing tradition” fans show up all the time, and are still so passionate about their team? As long as the Brewers are not showing up the other team and are just celebrating with themselves, it is fine.

1) Cameron was never a blue-collar worker either. He did it to honor his father, and when the Brewers are doing it they’re ostensibly doing it to honor the blue-collar fanbase in Milwaukee. It’s symbolic.

2) Despite the imaginations of baseball “purists,” what you call showboating has always been a part of the game. You’re supposed to get angry when a guy on another team (Pujols) does it but be glad when your own team does it, that’s how it works. Good players and teams that don’t celebrate are the exception, and probably much more boring to watch.

Consider the fact that the Brewers sold 1,000,000 tickets at the second earliest date ever… coming off a rather disappointing losing season. Maybe it’s not due to untucking specifically, but it doesn’t happen if the Brewers aren’t a bit of a “showboating” team. It makes them more fun to watch and more easy to get excited about if they do things like the Prince Fielder shockwave celebration and have charismatic young players like Braun/Fielder. I can’t fathom how anybody would be opposed to that.

A large part of the reason the 1982-era Brewers are still so popular in Milwaukee isn’t just because they got to the World Series, but because that team was so charismatic and had so much character. Why would you want the current Brewers to act like robots?

I just think it’s stupid. I think it looks dumb and Hart, Braun and Cameron (and now Gomez) doing the 3-way high five reminds me of high school girls softball.

But yeah, I’m in that minority also.

It entertains me. Untuck for life.

We need to make him an Unperson

so the shirts should stay tucked in except when playing St Louis ;)

It’s no more elaborate than coming onto the field and shaking hands and patting each other on the back.

The other team can always, you know, win the game if they don’t like it.

Also, “Untucking encourages retaliation.” Prove it. They’ve untucked for two years and there isn’t one example given of retaliation because of untucking. Lame.

Lighten up, or if you can’t do that, go off and celebrate the Good Old Days of blatant on-field cheating and whatever else is far more morally acceptable than untucking a shirt.

I don’t particularly care either way, but I think its amusing that some people get soooooo worked up about it.

I also think that the ‘you don’t deserve to celebrate because you’re a losing culture. Get some wins and then you’ve ‘earned it’’ take is utter bullshit.

…aren’t there bigger things to worry about?

Come on, Spring Training!

Baseball is a “show”, just like the NFL or NBA. The problem is people keep putting baseball on some kind of pedestal. I understand it’s considered America’s Pastime and it holds a special place above other sports, but it’s still a game. A game meant to entertain. Should Braun light off sparklers and run around the bases when he hits it over the fence? Probably not. But I don’t see how celebrating a victory after a GAME is a problem. Sure its showboating, but we pay them to give us a reason to be excited about something. They are paid to PLAY and when you play something you’re supposed to have fun.

- I’m not sure how it can be okay for one person to do it but not the whole team.
- How is this so much worse than standing in the middle of an opposing team’s field and shaking each other’s hands after a win?
- Or, for that matter, jumping around home plate after a walk off homerun?
- BFD
- Don’t they untuck their shirts eventually anyway, what difference is it when they do it?
- Do people get as upset about Braun and Fielder’s 1-2 punch thing?

There just seems to be something a little off about a bunch of millionaires who make their living playing a game putting themselves on the same plane as a person working in a factory all day for wages that might not ever add up in a lifetime what a rookie MLB player makes in a year.

- If a person can’t make $400,000 in their lifetime he/she has bigger problems than worrying about a baseball player untucking his jersey after a game.

If a person can’t make $400,000 in their lifetime he/she has bigger problems than worrying about a baseball player untucking his jersey after a game.

Or, he’s just a baseball writer.

Personally, I don’t really care if a player watches a homer or whatnot. So that invalidates point 2, because I don’t hate it if players do those things. That’s a hindsight bias to deflect blame off of the team you like, just like blaming the refs for a loss in any other sport.

He is talking about how people complain how football players dance in the endzone after scoring a touchdown. Basically what he says is:

His job is to catch a football. It’s not that serious. I don’t care if he gets in the endzone and has a ten minute tea-party, it’s just a game. Just don’t get mad at me when you’re paralyzed from the neck down after some safety takes you out and you look up in the stands and see me going “OHHH! Dance now you over-paid clown!”

BtC’s antics have not been as bad in the past couple months as they previously had been. Hell, he even had a comment go green recently…