Felipe Lopez back in Cardinals’ camp - Lopez signed a one-year, $1 million contract with the Cardinals
by Braski on Mar 1, 2010 7:04 PM CST
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PrintMykenk was predicting $6 million a year:
Yeah, let's pay a bench player 6+ million in case someone gets hurt.
That’s stupid.
by Mykenk on Jan 13, 2010 6:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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um. what?
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And since I have to make this longer I'll add something from wikipedia about Weeks:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickie_Weeks:
In early 2009, sabermetrician Bill James wrote in John Dewan’s “The Fielding Bible Volume II,” that Weeks should be moved to a position other than second base. James said Weeks led the majors at his position in a category he calls defensive misplays (which does not include errors), with 44. An average second baseman has 28 defensive misplays a season. Dewan ranked Weeks the worst starting second baseman in the majors.4
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Last 3 seasons:
Felipe Lopez:
5.8 WAR, 1883 PA (325 PA/1.0 WAR)
Rickie Weeks:
6.9 WAR, 1078 PA (156 PA/1.0 WAR)
Craig Counsell:
4.7 WAR, 1095 PA (233 PA/1.0 WAR)
I’ll ignore the fact that Lopez would very well have made around $6 million through arbitration and that he has none of the upside of Weeks or the defensive versatility of Counsell.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
UZR has passed up Bill James
I give him credit for everything he’s accomplished, but sabermetrics has passed him by. Weeks is by most counts close to an average defender now. Lopez likely wouldn’t have accepted a $2 million deal from the Brewers anyway because he would have to back up someone here.
I still think they should have offered him arbitration. What he expected to get in November isn’t the same as what he got. I’m going to take this opportunity to point out how pathetic Rambling Al’s analysis is:
Felipe Lopez signs with SL, sounds like 1y/$1.75M…once again, all the casuals that thought Doug should have offered him arby find out why he is the GM, and they are clueless.
Hey Al! Your analysis is basically: when there’s an issue, don’t give a side. When the issue is resolved, post something saying “This move happened, Doug made the right move, everyone who said otherwise is a casual.”
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
1M plus incentives to greater than 2M at the end of February is NOT the same as 6M in arb
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
Also
had the Brewers offered the contract that Lopez accepted with the Cardinals in, say, December (as you were campaigning for), they would have been laughed out of Scott Boras’ office. So before you pat yourself on the back so hard your Grape Koolaid spills out your nose, consider what happens to the market as time passes. Who knows how many offers Boras and/or Lopez turned down.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Mar 1, 2010 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
I'm still a bit disappointed
that the Brewers didn’t have an offer on the table with lopez as soon as he canned Boras that was in excess of the one he signed.
Then again, he may have had an active offer of more by the Brewers than the Cards and still turned it down out of “principle”
I guess I don't know where Lopez plays for the Brewers
Weeks is the 2B. I doubt Lopez takes a job where he playes every 5th day.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Mar 2, 2010 8:10 AM CST up reply actions
I suppose
Though the Brewers infield is in an above-average state of flux (which for the Brewers is saying something):
- in his best year, Weeks has “only” missed 1/5th of the season
- we have a rookie shortstop
- we have second-year third baseman whose rookie year was welllll above his projections
At the end of 2009, we didn’t know if Counsell was coming back. We DID have Lopez, though, who OPSed .855 for us and has played a lot of second base and shortstop over the past few years (third base, not so much, but he did play a little third for St. Louis in 2008). Given how little we were paying for those three positions, and the likelihood of one (if not more) of the three flaming out, I don’t think Lopez would have been a bad investment.
Since then…well, Escobar tore up the winter leagues and we signed Counsell, not to mention the imminent ascension of The Heether. But at the time, offering arbitration to Lopez seemed prudent, even if it was overpaying.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
It was 100% prudent
And he would have declined. I have no doubt that Scott Boras would have told him to decline, and seek out offers on the open market.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Mar 2, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
I get the feeling you were mis-understanding where I'm coming from
I always wanted to offer arb to Lopez, not to sign him, but for the draft pick. He was never going to be worth what the raise would have been—he will almost certainly regress in 2010.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Mar 2, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
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