Game Thread #-27: Brewers (3-3) at Padres (1-3)
by Kyle Lobner on Mar 10, 2010 1:30 PM CST
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After vanquishing our Cactus League money-grubbing rivals from the North Side yesterday, today the Brewers head to Peoria with a chance to go over .500 for the first time this spring.
Join us at 2 as Yovani Gallardo makes his second appearance of the spring, facing off against half the Padres. The bad news is, it's likely the good not altogether terrible half, as this is the home portion of a split squad day for the Friars.
After the jump: pitching match-ups, lineups, and, if you're good children, maybe a couple game notes.
Gallardo was solid in his spring training debut against the A's, putting up two scoreless innings while striking out two. If yesterday's game was a sign of things to come, YoGa should probably go three innings today. According to the Club, Scott Schoeneweis, Todd Coffey, John Axford, and Zach Braddock (or, as Cory Provus is fond of calling him, Zach Bradford) will also get some work.
In case you missed the lineup for the Crew, it goes like this:
Escobar SS
Cain CF
Braun LF
McGehee 3B
Zaun C
Hart RF
Wilson 1B
Iribarren 2B
Gallardo P
Among those not making the trip to Peoria: Prince Fielder, Rickie Weeks, Jim Edmonds, Jody Gerut, Craig Counsell, and Jon Lucroy.
For the Fathers, it's former Cub Sean Gallagher on the bump. In his only action of the spring, Gallagher blanked the Mariners for two innings. Righty Mat Latos, lefty Cory Luebke, and righty Mike Adams are also slated to take the ball.
Enjoy the game!
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I can't believe we traded him for such a crappy player.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Mar 10, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
MLB.TV
Padres Cox4 TV broadcast or mlb.com Brewers radio broadcast? I think I’ll have to go TV today. Sometimes the mlb.com audio guys drive me nuts (Ken, right?).
Brian Anderson
Kent might fill in for an inning or two.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Rock is with him, too.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Free Radio.
http://stream3.12milesout.net/cash1700?MSWMExt=.asf
Parking Lot Pimpin'
Please don't do that again.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
Nothing happened
But it’s a violation of site rules – posting proxies, etc to avoid MLB.tv or Gameday Audio.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
I have a question about that.
Is it OK if, instead of posting it directly to the comments, someone says that they have a way of viewing/listening to it and will tell others if they email this someone? I’m not too hot at finding these things, but if I ever find myself in need of some way to watch, is it OK if I ask people to email me a solution if they know one?
I don't know how I feel about that
The reason I don’t allow it is personal responsibility…if I see it and don’t make an effort to stop it, I’m technically a party to it. So if I see you asking someone to help you violate the law, I’m not sure that’s different.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
I think people should proactively e-mail you and I
all such solutions.
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 10, 2010 5:01 PM CST up reply actions
Season's over
Gallardo gives up 3 runs in the first inning. Suppan’s our ace. The season is over. Nooooooooo!
We're screwed. Trade 'em all for AA prospects.
Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Mar 10, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
Hey now, it's not a must-win like yesterday.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
I suppose you're right.
It’s not like the Friars are a division foe.
Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Mar 10, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
whew
I have a lot invested in it.
Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog
by Fatter than Joey on Mar 10, 2010 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
Already visited your Meat Man?
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
by Getting Yosted on Mar 10, 2010 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It's my duty to talk about the Breakbush song every game
I wonder if people who wrote the country farm and fleet jingle also wrote the breakbush song.
When I think of chicken, I think about how i was raised to do things the right way when I was young. I think about how family matters, and I think about working hard every day.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
I don't think so.
The Brakebush Chicken jingle was written by Terry Sweet (who I heard speaking about marketing to high school students).
The Farm and Fleet jingle was written and performed by the Nob Hill Boys.
Nob Hill Boys featuring Terry Sweet?
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Hooray! Gallardo is the best!
Cut Suppan right now! Gallardo 4 straight outs! He can pitch every 4 days and throw 300 innings. Give him the Cy Young now!
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what?
Had Gonzalez 0-2 before walking him
YoGa is in mid-season form.
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
He has to be.
If he wants to compete with Suppan
Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.
Somebody needs to tell our Manager that there's only 1 Perkins in AZ
(hint hint)
Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Mar 10, 2010 3:00 PM CST reply actions
From Jon Heyman
They will not pull out their shirttails after walk-off wins.
This better not be true
Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Mar 10, 2010 3:18 PM CST reply actions
Untucking after losses
How would the old-fashioned folks feel about that?
Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.
untuck, drop trou, and deficate right on the pitching rubber.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
The Padres have cornered the market on crappy Hairstons in MLB
So there’s a reason to go out to the ballpark.
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
FakeTHwitter
Cold and wet again. At least not as cold and wet as last Sunday. AW needs to shut up about southern California weather.
Brewers up by one
YoGa gave up 3 runs in the first with a no-doubter to right field. 1-2-3 2nd inning.
Padres have made a zillion errors.
The projection post is scheduled for 530
whoever is in charge here can go ahead and change it to about half an hour after the game wrap post goes up. Thanks.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
On it, thanks.
Side note – I just got home and have missed most of the game. I can work together a recap if needed, but is there anyone who’s actually heard most of it that would like to do it instead?
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
I can probably write one.
I’ve only been half paying attention while trying to do homework.
by BrewHaHeather on Mar 10, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
Awesome, thanks!
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
Anyone else listening to the audio?
The McDonald’s “Give me that filet of fish” song sounds like a Wesley Willis genre parody. Am I crazy?
There was an impromptu dance party at my house.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
You wouldn't be laughing at all
I haven’t heard the aforementioned Brakebush song, but when you guys talk about that, all I think of is this jingle…possibly the strangest thing I’ve ever heard, but somehow i want to hear it more
Hello from Phoenix
Tatertot won the sonic condiment race if you’re curious.
by ewizabeff on Mar 10, 2010 4:08 PM CST via mobile reply actions
apparently in Arizona it is..
Never question the South…
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
If you put it on a hamburger, then it is
Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog
by Fatter than Joey on Mar 10, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
My mistake
Tatertot won the sonic race and relish won the condiment race. Too many wannabe sausage races to keep track of.
by ewizabeff on Mar 10, 2010 4:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I like the racing presidents.
But other teams really need to stop copying us. Way too many teams have some sort of race now. Perogis, hot dogs, presidents, condiments, dots; its getting ridiculous.
by BrewHaHeather on Mar 10, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
I can't wait til we play the nationals
And some smartalec little 5 year old says, "Daddy, why do the racing presidents look like sausages?
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
link me
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
I'm not sure why this is such a bad thing
Baseball is one of the truly global sports so shouldn’t mlb be trying to bring the best talent from around the world here to America
Thanks.
Idiotic quote to say the least.
As an example, let’s say that Vlad has a kid who ends up playing MLB down the road. In Hunter’s eyes, is he “black”?
Last time I checked, there were minimum salaries in MLB, so no one would be playing for a “bag of chips”. I guess Hunter never heard of arbitration either. If he’s referring to minor leaguers, I don’ t know any that are making $5M.
Yeah, it's just simply idiotic to think that mlb is sending scouts to Latin America
because the players look black…
It’s pretty freaking racist, actually.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Definitely racist
I don’t understand the issue. So there are fewer “blacks” in baseball now (according to Hunter’s definition)… so what? Is it that important that the sport is made up of a specific percentage of a specific minority? Are there examples of “black” prospects that are being ignored? I’m thinking that regardless of their nationality, MLB organizations would recruit anyone with talent.
Anyone ever consider that “black” athletes are going towards other sports like the basketball or football? Or how about instead of professional sports being the default occupation for any “black” athlete that they are working in non-sports related areas?
Besides, is there really any proof that Latin American players get paid less than their “black” counterparts? If a player has talent, teams will pay… regardless of nationality.
Escobar was signed for $30K as a 16 YO
What kind of signing bonus would it take a similarly talented 18 YO SS to sign thru the draft? He would get more than that simply to cover college. So yeah, they are getting a bag of chips in comparison.
It’s a pretty old story that for the most part Caribbean and South American players are severely under paid in signing bonuses compared to US/Canadian players who are drafted, and that’s not even getting into the National’s demanding a kickback of any signing bonus money.
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
by Getting Yosted on Mar 10, 2010 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
True...
Talented baseball players from Latin American countries are probably willing to take less because…
1. It’s still more than they would make playing in their home country.
2. it’s also a ticket to go to the US.
I still think a similarly talented American 18 yo SS would still get drafted (and likely paid more), but that doesn’t really backup Hunter’s claim.
On the contrary, they don't have to go through the draft process.
See Chapman, as Ozzie pointed out.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
It's tough to argue with Ozzie logic
But how about we go with for 95% of players, the only real money they will get out of baseball is their first contract. Of that 95%, how many are getting Chapman money and how many are getting Escobar money? Bag of chips is about right.
If you can sign 10 Latin players for the price of every one American it eventually has a crowding out effect, with both black and white Americans being hurt.
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
by Getting Yosted on Mar 10, 2010 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
I'm calling BS here.
Lots and lots of latino players are signed to cheap deals to be a part of Dominican acdemies and whatnot, but the vast majority of them never leave the island. Even very good and well funded academies in the DR graduate a handful of players at best.
So, those handfuls of players who were recruited from a latino talent mill and paid a “bag of chips” take up a few spots in the minors, but players like Hunter should be happy for that – those cheap sources of talent leave more money on the market for players like him.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
To be fair to Hunter
“I’m [ticked] right now. I’m upset. And people wonder why athletes don’t talk to the media that much,” Hunter said. “It’s stupid. That wasn’t even the main topic of the discussion. That was like a piece of the conversation, Point-five percent of 100 percent. The main topic was that there are no scholarships for baseball. … It wasn’t a negative story.”
I have a hard time how this quote can be taken out of context...
“As African-American players, we have a theory that baseball can go get an imitator and pass them off as us,” Hunter says. "It’s like they had to get some kind of dark faces, so they go to the Dominican or Venezuela because you can get them cheaper. It’s like, ‘Why should I get this kid from the South Side of Chicago and have Scott Boras represent him and pay him $5 million when you can get a Dominican guy for a bag of chips?’
“I’m telling you, it’s sad.”
But...but that's only one thing he said!
Reporters probably talked to him for hours and only wrote about the one absolutely asinine thing he said. Why didn’t they write about the typical spring training nonsense instead?
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
I'm not saying it was taken out of context
I’m saying that Hunter’s point is that the article and everyone since has focused on one part of a longer discussion. He’s right that athletes don’t talk to the media for just such a reason.
I’m not defending what he said, but if the media wants continues access to players there’s some responsibility for protecting them from themselves, isn’t there?
Agreed
Hunter probably realizes that what he said is pretty dumb but by putting that quote into the article, the author changes the focus from the need to better scout and give US players better chances to a discussion about purely race
Agreed.
Besides, something like that will sell way more papers and get more attention than simply a discussion on the need for better scouting in the US (if that was indeed his point).
BTW, I would think that most reporters who do that sort of thing get “blacklisted” by players.
I hate the whole "we need more black people in baseball" thing
I mean we need the best players, I don’t care what color or shape they are. The whole thing is foolish— black people represent about 8% of major leaguers, and 12% of the total US Population. Maybe the better focus would be getting more white people into basketball and football? Obviously that’s not a serious suggestion, but it’’s a confusing concept to me.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Rock talking about the baseball program at Grand Canyon U.
I’m shocked there wasn’t a comment about “depth.”
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
Braddock pitches slower than Vargas.
Hence, I’m on BCB at a baseball game.
by ewizabeff on Mar 10, 2010 4:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I love gamethreads, but I didn't take part in them much last year.
Now that I have a laptop, I am going to try to be more active in them.
Just in case anyone was wondering.
Zealous Wheeler does not look like a baseball player.
Unless maybe catcher or DH. Quite stocky.
by ewizabeff on Mar 10, 2010 4:23 PM CST via mobile reply actions
That's what I thought when I saw him last summer.
I couldn’t believe he can physically handle playing shortstop.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
FWIW
There’s never been an African born major leaguer.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
You're thinking of Rinku and Dinesh, from India
But the Pirates also have Mpho Ngoepe, from South Africa.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
Ah, that's it. Thanks.
I wonder how many African players there are in the minors. I would find it hard to believe that Ngoepe is the only one.
That I do not know.
But South Africa had an entry in the last WBC, so one would assume at least a couple of those guys (aside from Ngoepe) have drawn some attention.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
there have been other South Africans
Unsure if there are any now other than Ngoepe, but there were several other players on the South African WBC team with affiliated minor league experience, mostly in the Royals org. IIRC that was Allard Baird’s pet scouting project and with new management there I don’t think they’re scouting SA anymore.
My audio is way behind
Rock just started talking about African born ballplayers now.
by BrewHaHeather on Mar 10, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
Uh. Christian Okeye of the Kansas City Chiefs
was the “Nigerian Nightmare” Rock. Hakeem “The Dream” Olajuwon was also Nigerian.
Now up for the Padres....
Beaner Weens
by ewizabeff on Mar 10, 2010 4:33 PM CST via mobile reply actions
now swap the B and W
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
sorry about my 3rd grade toilet humor today...
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
I liked it better the way I heard it.
by ewizabeff on Mar 10, 2010 4:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Salome! picking off runners!!
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
Hello, old friend
Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Mar 10, 2010 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
Uh, pardon?
Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Mar 11, 2010 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
Nope... I meant right-side-up W.
I like wins vs. losses. My apparent stab at humor has failed miserably.
that's a cubs flag
in case you were napping for the past 120 seasons Mr. van Winkle
We (the rest of us) happen to delight in their misery, and thus prefer when the L flag flies.
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 11, 2010 7:51 PM CST up reply actions
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