Gamethread #-21: Brewers (6-6) @ Giants (9-3)
by NoahJ on Mar 14, 2010 1:00 PM CDT
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Today the Brewers are on the road visiting the San Francisco Giants. Milwaukee has been riding a nice three game winning streak in which the bats have really taken off. The Brewers have scored 26 runs combined against the Cubs, Rockies, and White Sox. They'll be going up against Jonathon Sanchez today, who so far has been having a pretty good spring.
Lineup, today's pitchers, and discussion after the jump. So click "continue reading this post" and let's get started!
Jeff Suppan (Really, really bad in 2009) gets the start today, trying to keep up with his competition for a spot in the starting rotation. Both Dave Bush and Manny Parra pitched yesterday, with excellent results. Both pitched four innings, giving up only one run each and striking out four and three, respectively. Jeff Suppan might be a step behind them at this point as he's sporting a 5.40 ERA in 5 innings with four K's. He should get four innings today to try to catch up
Jonathon Sanchez (8-12, 4.24 ERA in 2009) has yet to give up a run in spring training. He has had a tendency to allow plenty of baserunners (9 in five innings). However he has also struck out 8 batters as well, which is a good way to get out of any jams that he may have gotten himself into.
Here's the Brewers lineup today, courtesy of brewercom twitter:
Gomez (8)
Counsell (4)
Cain (9)
McGehee (5)
Zaun (2)
Stern (7)
Wilson (3)
Inglett (6)
Suppan (1)
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Ned Yost may be long gone
But it’s good to know the Sunday lineup is still alive and well.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
Makes sense
Sunday line-up is the only logical reason for Heether’s absence
"I hope your name is Rick"
Yep
And he got me yelled at by my wife, who asked me earlier today if today is a split squad day.
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I thought I smelled something familiar.
Suppan.
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Four long balls....
….two caught, two HR…..please PLEASE cut your losses, Doug, as they will soon be our losses too come the regular season. Suckkan needs a new career
by PlusorMinusThree on Mar 14, 2010 3:18 PM CDT reply actions
It’s the american dream to get paid tons of money to do a half-assed job. Don’t get pissed at suppan for living the dream.
Or something like that.
Shruggity
I'm not upset with him for taking the money.
I am upset with the front office for giving it to him.
i’m also upset with Suppan for coming to camp this spring like nothing was wrong, going through the motions of just doing what he’s always done and acting like he is (or should be) guaranteed a spot.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
You said it Kyle
If Suppan was a man, he would make every effort to earn his money, and if- I mean, when he admitted that he couldn’t do the job, he’d step aside and give someone else a chance. Take the money, but run….away
by PlusorMinusThree on Mar 14, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know if I'd go that far.
But I’m not sure how Suppan can pretend he wasn’t bad last year, or act like this team owes him anything. It’d be a wildly popular move if they pinch hit for him in the second inning and sent him home without even paying cab fare to the airport.
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Well, he does have a decent case that he was a lot better than Parra and Bush last year. Not true if you look at basically any metric more advanced than ERA, but nonetheless.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
i would hope that the front office does use more advanced metrics
"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin
by sowingwildoats on Mar 14, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Like wins? :-)
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Intangible metrics
Suppan led the league in being “just one pitch away.”
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Mar 14, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
it don't get much more advanced than that.
"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin
by sowingwildoats on Mar 14, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I've probably missed something completely
but what is there that points to Suppan just going through the motions as opposed to trying his best (but his best just being absolutely appalling)?
"I hope your name is Rick"
There were some quotes earlier this spring.
I’m paraphrasing, but here’s the gist of it:
“I’m not going to do anything different this spring. I usually get hit around a bit, but that’s because I’m just working on stuff.”
“I haven’t been told there’s competition for my spot in the rotation, so I’m assuming there’s not.”
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there’s been articles that a) say he’s not changing his approach this year; and b) that he’s excited about suggestions from Rick Peterson.
It’s all a matter of which ones you choose to read/believe.
Shruggity
I've read both
And I’m glad Peterson is trying to squeeze something out of Suppan, since that is his job.
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I wonder if that's even a valuable use of RP's time.
Work on Gallardo & Parra, time better spent.
Shruggity
Meh
A rising tide lifts all boats here. If RP can drop Gallardo’s ERA from 3.80 to 3.40, that’s great, but it’s every bit as valuable to drop Suppan from 6.00 to 5.50.
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Actually it's more valuable to drop Gallardos, given your numbers...
… but that’s just math /nerd.
All told, we need Suppan to pitch real well, because he’s not going anywhere.
Shruggity
Ok, I'll bite
If Gallardo throws 200 innings and his ERA is .4 lower, that’s nine earned runs saved over the course of a season, or roughly .9 wins.
If Suppan, meanwhile, throws 170 innings and his ERA is .5 lower, that’s also roughly nine runs, or a win.
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Presumably Gallardo's improvement would carry over to the future, too
So worth more in the long run.
Failure is just success rounded down.
Who knows if Looper left anything
But Suppan appears to have Hardy’s magical double play bat.
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OK now it's up to the rest of the team
let’s score some runs!
by PlusorMinusThree on Mar 14, 2010 3:29 PM CDT reply actions
Too early to pinch hit for Suppan?
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let the guy sell himself out of the rotation*
*in theory.
"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin
by sowingwildoats on Mar 14, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
A run scored on Suppan's double play ball.
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Don't they have three?
What about the other two runs?
by Cheeseandcorn on Mar 14, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Handicap runs
Giants gave them to us for starting Suppan…
"I hope your name is Rick"
by MrLeam on Mar 14, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
RBI single for Wilson, bases loaded walk for Inglett.
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I think Ueck might have finally lost it.
He says the other half of the Brewers are facing Texas today. Two problems:
1) Texas is playing two games today, against Arizona and Los Angeles.
2) if the Brewers are playing the other half of a split squad series somewhere, MLB doesn’t appear to be aware of it.
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It's possible the other Brewers are participating in a B game today
But it’s unlikely it’s against the Rangers, because that would require the Rangers to put together three teams to play today.
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Agreed
He’s becoming Harry Caray, with a little more self-awareness.
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I will say this
During spring training it’s hard to tell if he’s slipping, or just couldn’t care less about spring training baseball with players he doesn’t recognize.
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I'm reasonably sure its just the beer
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Mar 14, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
And just a lot cooler.
Have we forgotten this?
by Cheeseandcorn on Mar 14, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't say he's not cool, or funny, or an asset to the organization.
But as spring training goes along, it’s getting harder and harder to actually follow a game while listening to him describe it.
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Oh, I agree.
Gameday is practically a must when listening to Uecker.
by Cheeseandcorn on Mar 14, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
alright let's see if supppan can give 'em all back.
"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin
I'm anticipating a story sometime in the next week about how he's catching a lot because he needs to learn the pitchers.
But I agree, with Treanor, Salome, Lucroy and Kottaras in camp (and only room for one of them) it’d be nice if Zaun’s soon-to-be 39 year old legs could get a rest and we could get an actual fair evaluation of his four potential backups.
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Wait, I'm confused.
The Giants radio guys are talking about a ball “absolutely crushed” by the Brewers’ starting catcher.
It’s been three years since we heard that.
On a completely unrelated note
Any chance that Adam Stern makes the team as an injury replacement sometime this year?
Depends on the injury
I can see a world where he’d be a fifth outfielder/end of the bench type guy while they’re waiting out someone’s short DL stint.
But he’s not a good defensive center fielder, doesn’t hit particularly well and is 30, so if a long term opening popped up I’m guessing someone else would fill it.
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He seems like
Your classic AAA depth guy.
by Cheeseandcorn on Mar 14, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup, just turned 30 in February.
Played in 48 major league games with the Red Sox and Orioles between 2005 and 2007, but 2010 will be his tenth minor league season, and the Brewers are his fourth organization.
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You don't have to be faster than the bear
Just faster than the guy next to you.
by Cheeseandcorn on Mar 14, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Blows
Now Suppans performance looks much better
by SgtClueLs on Mar 14, 2010 4:06 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
He's still recorded five fly ball outs (of six total)
So I’m not convinced.
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Now five of eight.
Point still holds.
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So that's nine fly balls for Suppan, three of which have been home runs.
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Maybe Looper's magic run support elixir isn't the only thing he picked up.
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Ten and four, now.
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he is limiting them to one run shots though
that’s gotta be worth at least 3 mil.
"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin
by sowingwildoats on Mar 14, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Imagine the sound of a paging system
“Doug Melvin, cut your losses, Doug Melvin, cut your losses.”
Oh wait, I said that already. Somehow reminders of this subject keep on coming.
“Jeff Suppan, stop trying to pitch, Jeff Suppan, stop trying to pitch.”
by PlusorMinusThree on Mar 14, 2010 4:30 PM CDT reply actions
Good idea
You think I’d be the first to suggest this?
No, huh?
OK, point taken, no more attempts at sarcasm.
Go BrewCrew!
by PlusorMinusThree on Mar 14, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
I just turned the game off. I can’t tell what’s going on, neither Ueck nor Costas seem to care, so I’ll just catch the box score later.
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the Uecker – Costas comedy show is infinitely more interesting than the late innings of a spring training game
I don't know
its like Costas is trying too hard to make Uecker laugh. It annoys me.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Mar 14, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
ok
I agreed to write the post game thread but forgot to put the radio on. From what I can tell, Suppan’s sucking and pitching only fly balls, some of which cleared the fence. And Wilson, Zaun and Inglett are doing well offensively. Anything else I need to know?
I assume
he hit a grand slam, scoring all 4 runs himself.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
He would have...
but he managed to turn an unassisted triple play against himself, having swapped teams while the ball was airborne…
"I hope your name is Rick"
does stetter still have options?
"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin
by sowingwildoats on Mar 14, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
He could throw better
:)
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Yes
I would be surprised if he’s not still on the team in April. Are they limiting him to lefties so far or letting him face everyone?
Failure is just success rounded down.
That I don't know
Apparently they don’t have play by play online. It’s on the MLB At Bat App. If I’m super bored, I’ll look it up.
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