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Game Thread #-17: Brewers (9-6) at Reds (6-4-1)

It's old lefty vs new lefty at 3:05, as Doug Davis and the Brewers take on Aroldis Chapman and the Reds.

Follow the jump for lineups and conversation on today's game!

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Via C. Trent Rosecrans, here are today's lineups:

Brewers Reds
Rickie Weeks 2B Chris Dickerson CF
Carlos Gomez CF Zack Cozart SS
Ryan Braun LF Joey Votto 1B
Corey Hart RF Scott Rolen 3B
Steffan Wilson 1B Jonny Gomes LF
Craig Counsell 3B Wladimir Balentien RF
Alcides Escobar SS Ramon Hernandez C
George Kottaras C Chris Burke DH
Doug Davis P Wilkin Castillo 2B

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reds playing with a DH but none for us?

"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin

by sowingwildoats on Mar 17, 2010 2:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Today's game is being played using the Defector Hitter rule

When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved

by Getting Yosted on Mar 17, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

australian defector hitter rules?

"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin

by sowingwildoats on Mar 17, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

i was wondering the same thing. is this game on mlb.com or 620?

by BenSheets15 on Mar 17, 2010 2:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Just read about Ron Washington testing positive for cocaine

Somehow I can’t the the Brewers having the same problem with Macha.

by Saltire on Mar 17, 2010 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe metamucil

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Mar 17, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have just had to look that up

but it was kind of what I was expecting

by Saltire on Mar 17, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Geritol?

I think we need a notkenmacha investigation …

by Rubie Q on Mar 17, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't imagine why this is actually a problem.

Aside from the legal issues. I guarantee you that most companies have at least one guy abusing illegal drugs, on a regular basis. I say instill mandatory surprise annual tests for every employee in the country, not just MLB employees. I think you’ll find that this Ron Washington thing isn’t that surprising, and isn’t that anomalous.

Does kinda hurt his credibility with Josh Hamilton, though…

Shruggity

by Mykenk on Mar 17, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I say instill mandatory surprise annual tests for every employee in the country, not just MLB employees.

If you’re good with that, why not just install a police camera in every house to see if you’re using?

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 17, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

So...

… this is the “if you do it on your own time it’s okay” argument? I’d say my employee has a vested interest in knowing whether or not I’m involved in criminal activity when I go home at night.

Shruggity

by Mykenk on Mar 17, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I shouldn't have said anything.

We’re venturing into political territory here, and it doesn’t belong.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 17, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

i ain't lettin no big brother tv show in my house

i’ve watched doctor who, i know what the turns into in the 4th great human empire.

"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin

by sowingwildoats on Mar 17, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds like Weeks is in midseason form

nearly blowing a double play with a poor throw to first. Can we create a WE (Weeks Errors) statistic which is just errors + blown double plays?

by ecocd on Mar 17, 2010 3:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Chapman already with 4K's

If the Reds had Volquez this season as well they would have the makings of a very good pitching rotation.

by Saltire on Mar 17, 2010 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

maybe weeks will be our new reds killer.

"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin

by sowingwildoats on Mar 17, 2010 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I think it's 95% right now.

Lots of spring left, though.

Shruggity

by Mykenk on Mar 17, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

There isn't really anybody threatening to take a spot from him.

I think the only way he doesn’t make the team is if he dies of old age or the Brewers make a trade for a different outfielder.

by NoahJ on Mar 17, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, he could die of something else.

And a trade is probably unlikely at this point.

by sjlee on Mar 17, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's that unlikely to get a fifth OF in a trade right now.

There are plenty of players put on waivers that the Brewers might trade for in order to assure they get said player.

by NoahJ on Mar 17, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

DFA's or something...

I might be getting terms mixed up, but I thought that was the case.

I could also be horribly mistaken. A good possibility.

by NoahJ on Mar 17, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

DFA is correct

Once a player is DFA, the team has one of three options:

1. Put them on waivers
2. Trade them
3. Release them

In any case, I don’t see it very likely that any other team is going to DFA an OF who is better than the likes of Gerut , whom I consider the 5th OF on the team. In two weeks, maybe… but not right now.

by sjlee on Mar 17, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe not just make the team...

According to my friend (per Tim Kirkjian sp?), Braun commented that his reads off the bat were unmatched, and that the Brewers would sit CarGo/Hart and let Edmonds play every day.

I told him that ESPN was making up crazy news, like the Pujols trade rumor.

Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.

by Yar Nivek on Mar 17, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most likely

He’s definitely ahead of the other NRI position players.

As far as the other guys on the 40-man roster fighting for a spot, his competition would be Heether, Cruz, Gamel and Cain.

I see the bench looking like…

Counsell
Edmonds
Gerut
Inglett
Kottaras

by sjlee on Mar 17, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh

You jinxed him.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 17, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why only 3 televised ST games?

There’s gotta be more of a market for them than WPT 5437893 or whatever they’re on now.

Shruggity

by Mykenk on Mar 17, 2010 4:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Money

It costs next to nothing to show WPT for the 83rd time. It costs much more to produce a live event, and even if you do double your audience, on a Wednesday afternoon it goes from horrible to anemic.

When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved

by Getting Yosted on Mar 17, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder how much it costs to televise a spring game

By the time you have a camera crew, etc in place.

And, regardless how much we’d love to watch more Brewer spring training baseball, I think there’s probably only a low percentage of Brewer fans that would watch one for nine innings, and of those fans a smaller percentage that are available to watch it on a weekday afternoon.

I’d be interested to see a study on the ratings of spring training baseball. I bet they’re pretty high for the first 2-3 innings, and virtually 0 by the 7th-9th.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 17, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd be interested as well

You might have higher ratings for the later innings because more people watch the end of the games when they get home from work.

Of course those same people interested enough to watch late innings after work probably have DVR’d the entire game anyways.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Mar 17, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Costs

Besides the camera crew, you also have to consider that you need a couple of broadcasters.

I think all but the most diehard baseball fans are interested in watching spring training games regularly, which probably doesn’t amount to a whole lot of extra revenue vs. broadcasting something for the 100th time.

by sjlee on Mar 17, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah, no broadcasters.

3 cameras, and channel in the audio feed that they’re already doing for the vast majority of the games.

I’m not talking a high quality broadcast, think the TWC 32 high school baseball game broadcasts.

Shruggity

by Mykenk on Mar 17, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

"A couple of broadcasters"

BA and Rock are already in Arizona doing the games for MLB.com. So that’s covered.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 17, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

however...

pay for doing an additional media method may not be

by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 17, 2010 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

How many times are they going to call Goodyear Corey Hart's hometown?

Sure, he lives there now, but he was born in Bowling Green, KY.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 17, 2010 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe they're defining "hometown" as the town where he has his home

Not where he grew up or was born in (which is the more common usage).

by sjlee on Mar 17, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I prefer where the person grew up

Otherwise, The Wizard of Whitefish Bay becomes… The Wizard of South Bend, Indiana

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Mar 17, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

I didn’t mean that those two things were mutually exclusive, but rather that the term “hometown” is commonly used to define where a person grew up or was born in.

by sjlee on Mar 17, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

he lives in WFB now

and played highschool ball in WFB

what’s south bend for?

by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 17, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

he was born there

IIRC, John Counsell was Notre Dame’s baseball coach in 1969-70…
Notre Dame, btw, apparently believes its baseball program began in the mid-1980s if their official website is any indication.

by morineko on Mar 17, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was just referring to the born/grew up distinction for “hometown”; C.C. grew up and continues to live in Whitefish Bay, but was technically born in West Bend.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Mar 17, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

surprised

his cousin lives in WFB too (or his Dad’s cousin? not sure… was an ad exec at cramer krasselt) – so I just assumed the whole clan was from the area.

by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 17, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, he was born and graduated from high school in the same town

So it’s safe to assume he spent some time there.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 17, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

One more ST Gameday question answered

A HBP yields a pitch count of 1 pitch, 1 ball. Thanks to Lorenzo Cain for helping us answer this burning question.

When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved

by Getting Yosted on Mar 17, 2010 5:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Luis Cruz, still perfect at the plate in 2010 ST games

When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved

by Getting Yosted on Mar 17, 2010 5:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Haha Kip Wells

Failure is just success rounded down.

by TheJay on Mar 17, 2010 6:05 PM CDT reply actions  

There are no suspensions for protecting the sanctity of the game from "inappropriate celebrations".

Apparently during their meetings, it’s something LaRussa and Selig agreed upon.

Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.

by Yar Nivek on Mar 17, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lee threw near the head; Zito threw a slowball at Fielder's butt.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Mar 17, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also...

… he was retaliating for something that happened that game, instead of 6 months before. That makes Zito’s move even stupider, but harder to prove, I guess. Except for the fact that everyone was talking about it happening for a week in advance and the Giants said they wouldn’t forget. Maybe the secret code that permits a pitcher to punish for celebrations also prohibits the league from admitting a team could childishly hold a grudge for that long.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 17, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

There is always a risk of injuring a player when you throw at them (although, Fielder’s butt is a pretty big target to miss), which makes throwing at a team’s star player during spring training ridiculous. Zito should have gotten a suspension too.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Mar 17, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, Zito threw a fastball at Fielder's Head.

He just can’t throw all that fast, and has terrible aim.

Shruggity

by Mykenk on Mar 17, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

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