Game Thread #-15: Angels (3-9) at Brewers (10-7)
First, the bad news: The Brewers' seven game winning streak ended last night, and Jeff Suppan is pitching today.
Now, the good news: If you can make it through Suppan's innings today, you'll be rewarded with Trevor Hoffman's first appearance of the spring.
Join us after the jump for today's pitching matchup, lineup and conversation on today's game!
Joel Pineiro (15-12, 3.49 ERA in 2009, 0-0, 9.00 this spring) is making his third appearance of the spring, and his first since allowing four runs on seven hits in three innings against the Cubs on Sunday. He faced the Brewers three times as a member of the Cardinals last season, and posted a 3.43 ERA in 21 innings.
Jeff Suppan (7-12, 5.29 ERA in 2009, 1-0, 7.00 this spring) is making his fourth spring start and his first since allowing four home runs on Sunday. Suppan is the only Brewer to allow multiple home runs this spring (he's allowed five). He's also tied for the team lead in hits allowed (12), and is second in earned runs allowed (7).
Via Tyler Barnes, here's today's Brewer lineup:
Rickie Weeks 2B
Alcides Escobar SS
Ryan Braun LF
Prince Fielder 1B
Casey McGehee 3B
Jim Edmonds CF
Corey Hart RF
George Kottaras C
Jeff Suppan P
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Arrgh.....
All I get is Badgers!sports. Basketball team’s up 19-13 little under halfway through the first half, hockey team is tied at zero all but at the end of the first period.
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Update on the back-up catcher situation
As per McCalvy Salome is going to AAA. I guess this means that LeCroy is either going to be the back-up or he is probably heading to AA so that he can catch regularly.
Also in the notes are that Hawkins has right shoulder stiffness, Escobar is going back to the dentist and that Cain,Loe,Estrada and Braddock join Salome in leaving the big-league camp.
I think this more likely means LuCroy will be starting in AAA...
… if he’s the third or fourth best catcher, they’re probably still going to want to get more of a look for the rest of spring training.
Shruggity
But why have your 2 best catching prospects only catch/play 3 times a week?
Or will they take it in turns to DH at AAA? (Is there a DH at AAA?)
We had this discussion a week or two ago
DH’ing allows the non-starting catcher to stay in the game. Sharing time in AAA isn’t as difficult as sharing time in the majors. They’re both AAA-level players so they both belong in Nashville.
Sorry must of missed the discussion when I was away
I assume the fact that Salome has been cut from camp before LeCroy means that LeCroy is seen as the one that is the closest to the majors, which would be a reversal from last season with Salome in AAA and LeCroy in AA.
Maybe they'll surprise us and keep Lucroy
But I doubt it.
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Didn't mean to criticize
I didn’t mean to imply that you should be following every comment and every thread. Okay, well you should, but it’s understandable that you don’t. ;-)
I do occasionally worry about that as a drawback to the site.
For whatever it’s worth, the Mug is frequently 1000+ words daily and draws 50-100 or more comments, and it’s almost always not the only front page content. Keeping up here requires a relatively high commitment, but we’re occasionally rough on those who don’t.
I don’t know what could be done about it without removing what I think is the site’s greatest strength, but I recognize that it can be a challenge to keep pace.
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Tags in comments?
I don’t recall seeing it on SBN, but somehow tagging the comment threads might make it easier to point people to debates, anyway. A search on Salome might have gotten us to the thread, anyway.
But would it help?
I’m not sure the average reader would, or should be expected to, search the history of the site before posting a comment on a subject. Certainly, it’d be the thorough thing to do, but I don’t think it’s a reasonable expectation.
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by Kyle Lobner on Mar 19, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good point
One of my favorite sites is Let Me Google That For You. If people can’t even bother to google obvious questions in general, digging through comment threads is asking a bit much.
What about putting up open threads for extended discussion? Catchers, Starters, Relievers, Infield, Outfield, FireDougMelvin
I would say that as long as people aren’t especially critical of “repeat” conversation, nothing needs to change.
What if
We did a daily summary of topics covered in each day’s comments? Would anyone read that?
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I'd read it
but I might ask for my 5 minutes back
and your first part of the comment summary can be “Pags is asking for his 5 minutes back”…after all this is a comment.
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 19, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I smell a Simpsons quote
“You wasted 5 minutes of my life, and I want them BACK.” (delay) “Oh, I’d only waste them anyway.”
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I'm not volunteering for the position
but I would read it especially if I missed a day or two or five.
I've wanted a "most rec'd comment of the week" feature
or a top 10 or something.
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 19, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be nice.
You could post it in the next day’s mug?
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There are times that game threads get up to 300+ comments.
I often listen/watch the game the next day so there is no way I am going to be reading through those, at least not every comment. I might skim through to get peoples thoughts on a particular play or mangerial decision.
I think that alot of people who visit the site once or twice a day will read the front page but will only will read the comments on things that interest them.
Yesterday I saw that the Mug had alot of comments so looked to see what was being discussed only to discovered it mainly about the musical talent or otherwise of U2.
Maybe Salome goes to AA...
Obviously things aren’t final, but if they think LuCroy is a better catcher than Salome, I want Salome as the MLB backup over LuCroy.
Shruggity
I think I remember reading about this.
If my thought is right (which it probably isn’t), the only time they don’t use DH in AAA is if it’s two NL farm teams playing against each other.
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A Suppan start is a wonderful thing...
…in spring training anyway.
One more 4 gopher ball outing (coupled with Bushie and Narv’s strong spring) may force Doug and Mark to swallow hard and cut the cord.
We can only hope. Go Halos!
Yeah, well....let's see how that goes.
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I ask myself which is more likely (or less unlikely)...
…Suppan turns it around and becomes a servicable fifth starter
OR
…Suppan sucks so badly in spring training that management dumps him.
I’m saying the latter. (Recognizing both are longshots)
I have a penny that says that the first one happens first.
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How many millions do you get if you win?
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Woo!
Start the game strong Soup. Walk the lead off. What pitch is he working on today? Curve ball in the dirt? Letter high fastball?
I have a penny that says he doesn't get out of the first inning
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Just noted the records of the 2 teams
The Angels have only played 12 games to the Brewers 17. Any reason for such a large difference? Do the individual teams work out their own schedules or does MLB get invovled?
More split squad games for the Brewers maybe?
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
Yeah
I think most teams are playing a fair number of SS games this spring because there’s an odd number of teams, but the Brewers got a ton of them in early.
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but would you not ususally have your split squad games early
When you have more players in camp?
Actually having looked elsewhere is see the Angels have also had 2 games tied so they have played 14 games not 12.
I believe we scheduled more SS games because of the massive amount of pitchers in camp.
It was the only way to get them all innings.
Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".
That one didn't count
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by Fatter than Joey on Mar 19, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
It wasn't legit.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
Rick Peterson Conversation
RP: “Hey Jeff, what’s the problem?”
JS: “I’m leaving pitches up in the zone. They’re crushing them.”
RP: “What are you going to do about that?”
JS: “Do about what? If I can give up 2 more home runs this game, I might get the rest of the day off.”
by ecocd on Mar 19, 2010 3:17 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
FWIW
The Angels are the Cactus League’s worst team (record wise).
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Holy Crap
For those of us not listening to the game, can someone give us a recap of what just happened in the inning?
BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.
Summary:
Suppan sucked.
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Gameday says a fly out belongs in your gap there.
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i sense a lot of long flies in the gap today
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 19, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Not looking good for either Badger men's basketball OR men's hockey right now...
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Badgers are clearly in panic down by 1 with about 3 minutes left
If they were down by 8 you might understand the bad three pointers and the dopey charges, but down by 1? What’s up?
if he doesn't get released/DFA'd/whatever after this game
I’ll be pissed.
I blame him studying suppan too closely
get rid of suppan and maybe parra will be magically fixed. Okay…I can keep dreaming….
hey…does Looper have a job yet?:P
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 19, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that Parra's poor showing
Is making it alot easier for the Crew to keep Suppan around. At this rate I think that Bush is going to get the #4 starter’s spot and we won’t see Suppan or Parra until the middle of April.
Actually when I think about it
They may want Bush to pitch 3rd so that they can go R/L/R/L for the 1st couple of weeks of season with the starters.
The soonest possible would be March 31
When they have to make the decision on Bush. If Bush, for instance, gets injured in the next 2 starts, Suppan has a spot.
eh...
cut Suppan now. you can always (attempt to) re-sign him if need be. And whatever you sign him at (assuming it’s less than his old contract) you just take that out of his old contract, so it’s not like you’d owe him additional money.
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 19, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I vow to be Suppan-hating this season
on the level of SRB’s hatred for Cam. At least my hatred is justified by numbers.
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 19, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
That wasn't SRB
You’re thinking of WSB Chris.
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I thought that was Drew C
GOOOOOOOOOOOO-MEZ
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those ads are annoying.
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 19, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
so, can we get Hoffman to pitch the first inning...
…instead of the last, when Suppan is scheduled? No, I s’pose that’s not a $12 million idea….
Shall we guess when Suckman will get the axe?
by PlusorMinusThree on Mar 19, 2010 4:00 PM CDT reply actions
first week of October
When they decline his option.
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they won't want to declare that $2 million (or whatever) sunk
and will decide to go on the hook for the whole option.
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 19, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
OUCH!
The scary part is, there is a lot of basis for that, so you may well be right….
by PlusorMinusThree on Mar 19, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
turnover by the bad guys?
what happened?
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 19, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Leuer is going to shoot 2 with 4.2 seconds left.
If he makes them it’s over.
by KittenMittons on Mar 19, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
why shoot at all?
go to the line or pass it around to avoid the line. If they foul, you should be able to make 1 of 2 and force a 3 to tie.
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 19, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
oh....my bad
i thought you said “shoot a 2” as in from inside the arc. /dumbass
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 19, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
how do you pronounce that school anyway?
like a dog?
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 19, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Wahf-ord
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Leuer hit both free throws, we're up by 4.
by KittenMittons on Mar 19, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
And it's over.
Cornell Vs. Wisconsin on Sunday.
by KittenMittons on Mar 19, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
crimson vs cardinal?:P
or what shade is cornell?
I should know…I worked for them for a few months.
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 19, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
i thought their nickname was red or something
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
Cornell's colors are carnelian and white.
carnelian? WTF is that?
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 19, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
they're in the ivy league
it has to sound prestigious
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
Was just about to say that!
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Actually, they chose "carnelian" because of its phonetic resemblance to "Cornell"
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Right away with using the logic! :p
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okay
now the Badgers official color is “Wisc Red”
It was “cardinal” 15 years ago.
shit…has it been that long. damn. /old
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 19, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
according to
http://kb.wisc.edu/vip/page.php?id=10449
it was Cardinal 1880s-1999+. Might still be I guess….they just call it different things on different webpages?:P
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 19, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
The fact we’re discussing the UW game in here when SBN has a perfectly useful UW blog tells you everything you need to know about how the Brewers fanbase feels about Jeff Suppan, doesn’t it?
by morineko on Mar 19, 2010 4:12 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
or how little passion I have for NCAA basketball now that I'm no longer in WI
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 19, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
oh, it makes sense
I’m just joking because as I said above this place was full of crickets during the Marquette game.
Hey, with the tourney so far, you never know....
I’m ecstatic I’m 15 for 22 so far in picks.
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I got 17, not bad considering i filled out my bracket in 3 minutes
in retrospect i wouldn’t have selected all 4 #10 seeds
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any games involving seeds 5-12 are usually just a guess for me
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Sorry to keep the basketball stuff going, but...
Why did CBS just switch to oprah when there are March Madness games going on right now?
Because the game does not pay as much as Oprah does?
..and they figure if no Wisconsin teams are playing, why show it?
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I imagine my local station'll be turning off basketball for Oprah soon...
I’ll just watch the Badger men’s hockey team lose again.
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If you happen to have CBS College Sports Network
Then you can watch the Utah St.-Texas A&M game.
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No idea
I haven’t tried watching a game online yet this tournament…I’m listening to the Brewers online, so my computer and attention span are taxed enough as it is.
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it's your local channel
WCCO is supposed to have Oprah on right now, but I’m seeing Oakland vs. Pitt. Apparently it’s correct that your CBS affiliate won’t show games if they’re not local.
Infield hit from the catcher?
Congratulations, George, you just proved you’re gritty enough for this team.
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Smith
Missed the memo. Everyone is supposed to pitch well once Suppan is gone, so the “it was a tough day for pitchers” argument is toasted.
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This is relevant to absolutely nothing, but this is where I chose to share it:
Former NBA Star Derrick Coleman filed for bankruptcy, and one of his listed creditors is pizza chain Hungry Howie’s. I’m hoping that’s not why they recently closed two pizzerias in Appleton.
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Hmmh....
Can I blame him for the ones in Green Bay closing four, five years ago?
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No idea.
I miss the Appleton ones, though. As cheap pizza goes, theirs was actually pretty good.
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I see Soup had 4 Ks in 3 innings
And he only faced the pitcher twice in 3 innings. I think he’s locked up his spot.
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
Diamondbacks pitchers are doing their best Suppan impressions today
The Royals have managed 21 runs through 5 inns
I know we've talked a lot about music lately...
But can we all at least agree that Incubus sucks?
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Post game thread
is open.
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