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Community Projections: Center Field

On to the next one, we come to the centerfielders who replace Mike Cameron. Carlos Gomez is expected to get most of the playing time there, and he has struggled as a hitter so far in his career. Here's his Fangraphs page and the relevant projections. CHONE is surprisingly optimistic, I think everyone would be pleased with that type of output.

CHONE: .267/.329/.390

ZiPS: .250/.308/.369

Jody Gerut seems to be pretty underrated in the Brewer fan base, he's been a quality hitter in his career who had a rough year, and his extended slump after joining the Brewers did little to help his cause. Jody's Fangraphs page is here, and his projections are below.

CHONE: .267/.328/.443

ZiPS: .267/.321/.443

Strangely similar projections from the two systems. The form is after the jump like usual, please pay attention to the formatting instructions. I have boxes for playing time for just Gerut and Gomez. I can see the argument for Edmonds playing some there, but I'll leave him out of it because if he makes the team I would think almost all of his action would be in right or at first base. If you really want to allocate some playing time for him throw it in the other box.

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All you guys are obv stat guys, and wikipedia is no help, so WTF is CHONE and WAR?

by PriceT on Mar 2, 2010 4:28 PM CST reply actions  

CHONE

Is a projection system. It doesn’t stand for anything, it’s for Chone Figgins and the inventor’s name is Sean Smith, so it’s kinda a play on the words. It’s a weighted average of past production with a bunch of adjustments for age and peripheral stats. I think it’s the best projection system out there.

WAR is just an all-encompassing stat telling you how many wins a player is worth. You can compare any player to another with it. It’s cumulative, too. Check out the Lookout Landing series for really in-depth explanations.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Mar 2, 2010 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

And another thing

How accurate have they been since inception on picking division and WC winners?

by PriceT on Mar 2, 2010 4:29 PM CST reply actions  

They're not really meant to be

WAR (Wins Above Replacement) isn’t predictive, it’s just an evaluation of how a player performed after the fact.

CHONE (a statistical projection system) is only meant to project player performance based on existing statistics, it doesn’t predict who will win a given division. There are projected standings associated with CHONE, but I don’t think they’re meant to be anything but a curiosity, especially since CHONE does very little to project playing time/rosters/etc.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Mar 2, 2010 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

They’re remarkably accurate for what they aim to do, but they don’t pretend to be able to forecast injuries and mid-season trades.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Mar 2, 2010 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Commence break-out season!

.275/.335/.400 and 90% (Gomez)

.260/.330/.430 and 10% (Gerut)

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Mar 2, 2010 5:12 PM CST reply actions  

I hope you are right

I doubt that you are

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Mar 2, 2010 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

he's...

really really trying hard to think that cam won’t be missed.

by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 3, 2010 8:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Heh

Gomez:

.240/.310/.380 60% (and that’s STILL a career year in terms of OBP and SLG, so I’m optimistic)

Gerut:

.270/.340/.420 35%

Other PT: 5%

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Mar 2, 2010 5:41 PM CST reply actions  

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