Tuesday's Frosty Mug
Some things to read while setting a good example.
It was a rough day for nearly every Brewer pitcher to appear in yesterday's game, but perhaps the most striking was a rough outing for Trevor Hoffman, who allowed two runs on four hits in his second Cactus League game. We're less than two weeks away from Opening Day, meaning Hoffman will likely get around three more appearances in an attempt to get ready for the season. Ken Macha said he's not worried about Hoffman's early struggles.
I've been considering building this into a full post for a few days now, but I don't seem to be getting around to it so I'll mention it here: I'm starting to wonder if letting Hoffman wait this long into camp before making his first spring appearance was a good idea, for a couple of reasons:
- First of all, let's not forget the fact that Hoffman is 42 and certainly could age and regress. By limiting him to roughly five spring appearances, the Brewers aren't giving themselves much evaluation time with him.
- Secondly, as a closer it could be difficult for Hoffman to make mechanical adjustments later on. If something is out of whack with his delivery, spring training would have been the time to work on it. It'd be hard for Hoffman to do side sessions to correct a problem during the season: As closer, he's expected to be available every day.
Maybe I'm overreacting to two appearances, and maybe Hoffman will turn it around and make the whole point moot. It's certainly not something I'm losing sleep over. But it is something that's starting to creep into the back of my mind.
Speaking of potentially moot points, Tom Haudricourt wonders if the battle for the final rotation and bullpen spots might end with the Brewers deciding to keep all four starting pitchers. He mentions Carlos Villanueva as a guy who could be optioned to make room for Dave Bush, Manny Parra, Chris Narveson and Jeff Suppan to stay on the roster. Ken Macha told reporters yesterday morning that he expects to announce the first four starters after Wednesday's off day.
Yesterday was a pretty busy day for roster moves: First, the Brewers traded Matt Treanor to the Rangers for infielder Ray Olmedo. Olmedo is 28 and has played in the majors over parts of five seasons, but none since 2007. Since the start of the 2006 season he's played in AAA for the Reds, Blue Jays, Nationals and Rays, primarily as a shortstop. He hit .250/.290/.335 for Durham last season.
This move likely means George Kottaras has won the backup catcher job. Tom Haudricourt notes that Kottaras is under team control for the next five seasons, which likely factored into the decision. Meanwhile, Matt Treanor made a joke about Surprise on his way out the door, making me wish he'd stayed around a little longer.
The Brewers also made three cuts yesterday, optioning Adam Heether and Josh Butler and returning Trent Oeltjen to minor league camp (FanShot). Oeltjen and Heether's departure likely means Jim Edmonds and Joe Inglett have made the team. Butler never really had much of a chance this spring after early injuries shut him down.
Four lockers in Maryvale were cleaned out yesterday, but one was immediately refilled: Third baseman Taylor Green was invited over to big league camp to fill some of the late innings in the infield over camp's final weeks (FanShot). Green stands no chance of making the team, but some experience in big league camp can only help him as he works to rebound from a disappointing 2009 season.
Elsewhere in camp minutiae:
- LaTroy Hawkins pitched a bullpen session yesterday with no signs of trouble, and has been cleared to return to game action. He'll pitch in Wednesday's minor league game along with Manny Parra.
- As you've likely heard if you've listened to a Brewer broadcast this spring, Bob Uecker will be inducted into the Celebrities Wing of the WWE Hall of Fame on Saturday night, and will miss Sunday's game to attend Wrestlemania.
As mentioned above, Jim Edmonds has likely made the team but, as mentioned yesterday, he doesn't seem too excited about the possibility of only playing a couple of times a week. If Edmonds does manage to earn more playing time, Jim Breen of Bernie's Crew wonders if it will come at the expense of Corey Hart, not Carlos Gomez.
In the minors:
- Chris Mehring has the box score from a minor league game yesterday between the Timber Rattlers and Brevard County Manatees.
- Joe Posnanski is the latest writer to compile several top 50 prospect lists in an effort to produce one master list: Alcides Escobar is ranked 27th and Brett Lawrie is #50.
In predictions/projections:
- Knuckle Curve Semi-Drop predicts the Brewers will win 77 games and finish in fourth place.
- MLB Daily Dish has projections for a bunch of individual Brewers.
Thanks to over 200 of you who have already participated in this week's BCB Tracking Poll. If you haven't already, please take a moment to do so - the more input we get, the more valid the results will be. I'm leaving the poll open until noon today, and will post the results tonight.
Around baseball:
Dodgers: Released Angel Berroa.
Mariners: Jack Hannahan is still struggling with a strained groin and will likely open the season on the DL.
Marlins: Released reliever Mike MacDougal.
Rockies: Signed pitcher Joe Beimel to a minor league deal.
Yankees: Returned Rule 5 pick Jamie Hoffman to the Dodgers.
If you've been reading the transactions, odds are you've become quite familiar with Casey Fien, who has yet to pitch in a game this spring after being designated for assignment by the Tigers, claimed by the Red Sox, waived by the Red Sox and claimed by the Blue Jays, then outrighted to the minors and released by the Blue Jays before being re-signed to a minor league deal by the Tigers. As one might imagine, it's been a pretty stressful spring for Fien, who says he's glad to be back home and is eager to be back in game action.
Joe Mauer's new contract continues to be a hot topic of conversation around baseball. In the comments of yesterday's Mug, Mykenk noted this Baseball Digest Daily post wondering if the Twins have locked up the next Jason Kendall. Kendall and Mauer's offensive games have never really been all that similar, so the comparison doesn't really hold. Today, Sully Baseball wonders compares Mauer to Vernon Wells instead.
Speaking of Jason Kendall: He's far and away the all time leader in games batting leadoff and playing catcher.
Yesterday I mentioned a Marc Hulet post from FanGraphs making the case that there's no such thing as a fifth starter. Today, Rob Neyer expanded on the argument and considered the possibility that teams could benefit from a less one-size-fits-all approach to the end of the rotation.
(Side note: You can occasionally quantify the passion of a baseball writer by the timestamp of their posts. My favorite example is this Craig Calcaterra post on the Nationals signing Matt Capps, timestamped 6:16 AM on Christmas Eve. The Neyer post above is another good one: A thorough examination of a semi-irrelevant roster spot, posted at 3:24 AM.)
Here's another semi-irrelevant but interesting roster note: The Blue Jays named Shaun Marcum their Opening Day starter yesterday, meaning three pitchers who didn't log a single major league inning last season (Marcum, Jake Westbrook and Ben Sheets) could take the ball for their team's first 2010 game.
FanGraphs' organizational rankings continue with the Reds checking in at #20. The Brewers, Cardinals and Cubs are still on the board.
It's a running joke on Baseball Tonight, but apparently it's also a real thing: If you're interested in playing this season, The Left Field Corner is running an Umpire Fantasy League. Their 2009 umpire awards are also worth noting: Jim Joyce and Dana DeMuth qualified as baseball's best umpires, while Bill Hohn is listed as baseball's worst. Hohn had nine ejections last season, with just one coming in a situation where he made the correct call. (h/t Baseball Zealot)
Happy birthday today to 1972-1976 Brewer George Scott, who turns 66. Scott led the league in 1975 with 36 home runs, 109 RBI, 318 total bases and 26 double plays. He's 13th on the Brewer All Time list with 115 home runs.
Oh, and if you were wondering how to make these, I have a recipe for you.
Drink up.
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Kendall
has more HBPs hitting leadoff than any other catcher does playing games (52 to 48). He also has more HBPs than or anyone outside of the top 15 for games played has in PAs (52>33).
Oh, how I’ll miss PlunkEveryone.com this season.
Did I miss something?
I’m assuming Plunk Everyone is still around…
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
by Kyle Lobner on Mar 23, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
he won't be posting here as often
now that kendall isn’t around.
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 23, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
And (knock on wood) Rickie Weeks is back, as well.
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by Kyle Lobner on Mar 23, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
BTW
Rickie Weeks (62 career HBP) needs 33 more to tie Geoff Jenkins for first in Brewer history.
Prince Fielder has 47, and could become the seventh Brewer ever to reach 50.
Ryan Braun (25 HBP) needs 13 to tie John Jaha for 10th on the Brewer list.
That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.
by Kyle Lobner on Mar 23, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Treanor
That was horrible. If I had a misty may facepalm picture, I would post it up.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
the joke that is
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
Post edited
Macha will announce the first four starters after Wednesday’s break, not on Wednesday.
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Thanks for the headache.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 23, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Hoffman
The team let him set his own spring schedule, correct? There’s plenty of time for him to get right. Incidentally, he’s been crappy in spring even when healthy in recent years.
I don’t think having a few more appearances to evaluate rather than five would change his role on the team.
Failure is just success rounded down.
Yep, you're right on setting his own schedule.
And you’re right on the second note too, but at least they’d have more time to sense a problem.
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by Kyle Lobner on Mar 23, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
My thought was Hawkings was Trevor insurance
If Trevor goes Turnbow on the team, they can turn Hawk or Coffee into the 9th inning guy with the other one taking 8th inning guy.
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
by Getting Yosted on Mar 23, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
That's my guess too.
Coffey is a bit shakey as a closer (he had as many blown saves as Hoffman, but with less opportunities), so Hawkins give them another option.
Mariano Rivera has actually switched his regimen in his later years to only making a handful of late spring training appearances. It was because he didn’t want to risk tiring out. It’s possible that Hoffman is doing the same.
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Mar 23, 2010 10:29 AM CDT reply actions
Does this mean I missed out on seeing Misty May at Miller Park? There goes my “summer of love…”
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Mar 23, 2010 10:29 AM CDT reply actions
do the brewers play the rangers in interleague?
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 23, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
June 11th to 13th…though who knows if Treanor will be with the big club by then…
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Mar 23, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope everyone is getting the Misty May jokes out of their system today.
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I'm saving mine for a foggy day six weeks from now
Failure is just success rounded down.
by TheJay on Mar 23, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
Fog is not the same as Mist.
I am pretty sure they are not interchangeable, fog is basically a cloud, and mist is basically water droplets, although the movies “The Fog” and “The Mist” were somewhat similar.
“What potent blood hath Misty May.”
- Ralph W. Emerson
I’m done.
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by Fatter than Joey on Mar 23, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
But clouds are made of water droplets.
According to Websters…
Fog
“vapor condensed to fine particles of water suspended in the lower atmosphere that differs from cloud only in being near the ground”
Mist
“water in the form of particles floating or falling in the atmosphere at or near the surface of the earth and approaching the form of rain”
Yeah
The difference is “falling” vs “suspended.”
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by Kyle Lobner on Mar 23, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Futhermore, based on my late night research
Fog – Is a vehicle for vengeful leprous ghosts.
Mist – Is a vehicle for mutated bugs
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by Fatter than Joey on Mar 23, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Fog is basically a cloud on the ground
full of ghosts from lepers.
Mist is a fine distribution of water droplets.
Full of mutated bugs….
It’s similar but not equivalent.
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by Fatter than Joey on Mar 23, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I always thought fog was mist with better public relations.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 23, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Am I having a dream?
Or are we really having this discussion?
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by Bettman's Nightmare on Mar 23, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
continued...
“And striving to be man, the worm
Mounts through all the spires of form.”
I’ll bet you want to be that worm that mounts her spire of form.
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 23, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Scott Schoeneweis was granted his release today...
… the day I finally spell his name right. I think.
Shruggity
Yeah, that was a tough one to learn.
It also took me a while to consistently get Treanor right. Now both are gone.
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by Kyle Lobner on Mar 23, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
It's true.
Seems like it should have two o’s, not two a’s.
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by Kyle Lobner on Mar 23, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Not again....
…
@JoseCanseco: Omg I just got a subpoena to testify before the grand jury about roger clemens,andrew pettite and others on Thursday april 8 2010 at 100 pm
Shruggity
Jose Canseco
One of the few people who never have to worry about the character limit on Twitter.
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
by Getting Yosted on Mar 23, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was really hoping he'd get arrested.
I keep hoping he’ll just go away.
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by Kyle Lobner on Mar 23, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't remember that...
maybe he was taken of the 40 man roster at that point, but he was still in big league camp.
Shruggity
Yup
He was an NRI. Returned to minor league camp.
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Oh, another Brewer B-day today
Me.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
Happy birthday!
Somehow you missed B-Ref’s birthday list.
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by Kyle Lobner on Mar 23, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Happy born date, jerkface.
Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Mar 23, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
And in true Miller Park form
An extra special birthday wish
Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Mar 23, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, happy birthday.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I know Villanueva has options left, but come on...
RAR over the last 2 seasons (as relievers)
Carlos Villanueva: 14.9
Trevor Hoffman: 14.8
LaTroy Hawkins: 11.6
Todd Coffey: 7.1
Claudio Vargas: 4.4
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
That's what I was thinking, too.
We’re still weakening the pitching staff by keeping on the big league club.
My “I’ll stay positive about Suppan” plan didn’t last very long … about as long as it takes for one of his 1st inning pitches to go over the left field fence.
Doesn't really matter much
Villanueva was probably the last guy in the pecking order. Hoffman, Hawkins, Coffey and Vargas were almost assuredly ahead of him on Macha’s depth chart. That leaves only very low leverage situations. Villy will probably be back up by the end of May when somebody goes down with an injury.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
Is today the day you were laid?
Or the day you hatched?
"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin
by sowingwildoats on Mar 23, 2010 2:42 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I don't know about the laid part, what with his wife being pregnant and all.
Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Mar 23, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
i didn't notice my double entendre until after posting
oh my.
"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin
by sowingwildoats on Mar 23, 2010 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought that was the whole point
the single entendre made no sense
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