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The last guy to be renewed by the team isn’t doing too badly these days.

by TheJay on Mar 4, 2010 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, the last three were Fielder, Braun and Hart, renewed on the same day in 2008

But I agree, it turned out ok for all of them.

Really, the bigger concern is what happens next year. If the Brewers and Gallardo’s agent have struggled to reach agreement two consecutive years in zero-leverage situations, good luck trying to work out a deal to avoid arbitration with him.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

And not so much with Hart.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Right

So we really have no idea if being renewed matters at all in working out a deal to avoid arbitration.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Mar 4, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly

Two out of three times arbitration has gone without a hitch. One time it didn’t. You can’t draw a conclusion either way.

by TheJay on Mar 4, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

my point...

His agent was likely making “unreasonable” demands. I just don’t think it bodes well for signing him long-term.

by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 4, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Depends.

In a zero leverage situation like this, it doesn’t take that much for demands to be considered “unreasonable.” Whether he (agent) likes it or not, this is the way the system works, and you’re not going to get a large raise pre-arbitration unless you’re an incredibly special player. In that case, the team will probably bend over backward to sign you. Gallardo’s not that special yet, has potential, but needs work.

Shruggity

by Mykenk on Mar 4, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

Last season was Gallardo’s first full season in the MLB. It was solid, but he definitely needs to improve this year to show that he’s worth getting #1 pitcher money.

by sjlee on Mar 4, 2010 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Nope.
The Brewers just announced they have renewed the contract of right-hander Yovani Gallardo, meaning they were unable to come to an agreement for a salary for 2010.

Thus, the Brewers renewed Gallardo’s contract at a specific figure, using the formula they use for all players in the zero to three class of major league service. I haven’t heard the renewal figure yet but Gallardo made $414,000 last year.

-TH

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Mar 4, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah, that's my guess, too.

These raises are pretty insignificant, I’m surprised more teams don’t just renew at their own system to avoid any potential little rifts between them and an agent over a $10k disagreement.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Mar 4, 2010 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Insignificant?!

I wish I got a 5% raise this year.

by sjlee on Mar 4, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

from an overall payroll standpoint.

And I’m guessing most guys only get about 10k extra or so on average.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Mar 4, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Gotcha

You were going from the team’s standpoint, not the player’s.

by sjlee on Mar 4, 2010 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Heh

I wish I made $20,000 last year.

Steve
http://nohuddleoffense.blogspot.com

by stigmo on Mar 4, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

That's what the Pirates did this year.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I think they had the right idea. That's where I was getting the idea from.

Cards Announcers On Gamel's First Career HR, "That’s all they need is another home run hitter".

by tcyoung on Mar 4, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Here's what Adam McCalvy said yesterday:
Teams essentially can pay such players whatever they want as long as it meets the Major League minimum salary but the sides typically negotiate anyway, partly to keep things cordial for the more difficult talks later on in a player’s career.

I think that pretty much sums it up.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Might be more

The top of the spectrum is probably the $670,000 Fielder got in 2008 after hitting 50 home runs the year before.

Gallardo’s accomplishments are nowhere near that, but $500k wouldn’t shock me.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Arbitration

If the Brewers and Gallardo go to arbitration next year, I’m guessing that $2-3M will be the range both sides will be working in (a little more if he has a breakout season).

That’s not really an amount I’m worried about, but hopefully they can get a long term contract in place before it drags into multiple arbitration years.

by sjlee on Mar 4, 2010 11:28 AM CST reply actions  

It's not an exact comp, clearly, but:

Yovani Gallardo 2009: 185.2 IP, 3.73 ERA
Kevin Correia 2009: 198 IP, 3.91 ERA

Correia was just arb eligible for the third time, and they settled at $3.6 million. So $2.5-3 probably isn’t out of line.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

By the way

While looking up Correia’s contract, I stumbled across this: The Padres have exactly $1.1 million in salary guaranteed for next season: The buyouts on two contracts. Every other player on their roster is non-guaranteed or a free agent.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

So...

does this mean that by the All-Star break there’ll be a huge fire sale if they are out of contention?

by sjlee on Mar 4, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the sale was official sometime before the All Star Break last season, IIRC.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Renewed Gallardo >>>>>>>>>>>>> Recycled Suppan

by Rubie Q on Mar 4, 2010 11:47 AM CST reply actions  

Soup

is not recycled. The only thing green about him is the truckloads of money he stole from the Brewers.

Q: Did you ever scout Corey Hart? What seems to be holding him back from being a good hitter for AVG?

A: The slider away. And that facial hair.

-Keith Law ESPN chat 2/11/10

by molitorfan on Mar 4, 2010 10:36 PM CST up reply actions  

nice comment

Q: Did you ever scout Corey Hart? What seems to be holding him back from being a good hitter for AVG?

A: The slider away. And that facial hair.

-Keith Law ESPN chat 2/11/10

by molitorfan on Mar 5, 2010 6:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Just like yours...

.. Suppan’s not “stealing” from anyone…

Shruggity

by Mykenk on Mar 5, 2010 10:57 PM CST up reply actions  

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