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Game Thread #-33B

Where together, we can learn to spell Treanor and Oeltjen, but probably not Schoeneweis.

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What the hell is with the wall paper in this thread?

by Ditz on Mar 4, 2010 4:08 PM CST reply actions  

That's not wallpaper.

Rubie has poor bladder control.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Does this go against the rules you posted yesterday?

or are you above the law?
or are bladder control jokes fair game?

by BrewCrewBrian on Mar 4, 2010 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Or is Rubie fair game?

Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.

by Yar Nivek on Mar 4, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Rubie knows that if I was trying to be mean spritied

I’d focus the attack on Marquette. :-)

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Debate:

Solid backup catcher or backup catcher with Misty May?

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Mar 4, 2010 4:08 PM CST reply actions  

I still think Treanor is the best option, for reasons that have nothing to do with marital status.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I'll go with

solidly catching Misty May from the back.

When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved

by Getting Yosted on Mar 4, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually treenor is quite a hotty himself

by Ditz on Mar 4, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Aren't the pitchers supposed to be ahead of the hitters at this point in the spring?

A quick check of the scoreboard shows the Mets, Cardinals, Astros and Marlins combined for 53 runs today.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:12 PM CST reply actions  

How many walks/HBP and how many errors?

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by Yar Nivek on Mar 4, 2010 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

The Astros scored 15 without a single walk.

But all told, 26 walks, 4 HBP, 4 errors.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Was Wandy pitching?

If so, maybe he’s pissed about losing arbitration.

by sjlee on Mar 4, 2010 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

So it’s not just hitter success, there’s some pitching issues and defensive problems. Not much defensive problems, but the 26 walks seems high.

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by Yar Nivek on Mar 4, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Seems?

26 walks in one game is beyond high… it’s ridiculous.

by sjlee on Mar 4, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Nevermind

I just realized it was for all the games… not just the Astros.

by sjlee on Mar 4, 2010 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Darren Ford in for the Giants

Former Brewer prospect, IIRC?

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:23 PM CST reply actions  

Mine sucks too.

Liz Waters is a reception blackhole.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Mar 4, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Nothing.

My radio might be bad, I’m not getting anything AM wise. Or the lead walls, one of the two.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Mar 4, 2010 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

That sounds like something you'd find scrawled in a mens restroom.

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by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

That's a paddlin'.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 4, 2010 4:27 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Really?

I must be getting old.

by sjlee on Mar 4, 2010 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, really

Liz Waters was the last single-sex holdout. It’s been co-ed for probably 4-5 years now.

You've got a couple screws missin' up in your toolbox, if you think that you'll stop this man from hittin' moonshots.

by hawing on Mar 4, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions  

You should be able to get it in Madison

but I’m not sure what station.

I cannot comment on your radio… did you get it from an adult store?

by sjlee on Mar 4, 2010 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, it is a very good radio except for AM generally.

It’s got a crappy tuner that I have to move around myself to find a signal, but it isn’t working anywhere in my dorm room.

by NoahJ on Mar 4, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Humor fail...

my comment was a joke about your radio “sucking”.

by sjlee on Mar 4, 2010 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Ohhhhhh.

I get it. I am sometimes slow on the uptake.

by NoahJ on Mar 4, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't blame you...

it was a pretty lame attempt.

by sjlee on Mar 4, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Look at that.

Reception!

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Mar 4, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I just went with the Gameday Audio.

Definitely worth the investment, this way I can take it to class!

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Mar 4, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Eh.

I would just skip class if I’m not going to pay attention at all. Can I get gameday audio for a month, just for spring training?

by NoahJ on Mar 4, 2010 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I've had it every year since I was a sophomore in college.

I use it a lot. The first year I had it, I listened to at least part of one game by every major league broadcast team, including three innings of an Expos game in French.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I have no idea.

20 bucks for the whole season isn’t bad, I’m not sure if there’s a cancellation after spring, but I wouldn’t see it being worth it for gameday.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Mar 4, 2010 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Afternoon games are on 1070

Even in Madison, they don’t preempt Limbaugh for baseball.

When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved

by Getting Yosted on Mar 4, 2010 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Probably not in Madison

But you don’t have to wander too far outside the city limits before you’re back into conservative turf.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I once cut a thing out of the paper

that lists all the Brewers radio stations in the state and keep it on the fridge at my moms so I can call and ask for them when we need it

by Nicole Haase on Mar 4, 2010 4:28 PM CST reply actions  

I think it's possible the JS site has a current list.

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by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Here you go

link

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by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

This might be Scarpetta's only spring training appearance.

I have a hard time believing they’ll keep him around once minor league camp opens.

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by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:35 PM CST reply actions  

Iribarren, Cain and Oeltjen due up.

The heart of the order for the 2010 Sounds.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:41 PM CST reply actions  

If Hernan accepts the assignment, I think.

He is out of options, right?

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Mar 4, 2010 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

He is out of options

But I’m pretty sure he could be outrighted if he clears waivers. And I think he’ll clear waivers at this point.

This would be his first outright, so he doesn’t have right of refusal. That starts with your second outright.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Would that would remove him from the 40 man as well?

Or does only a DFA do that?

When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved

by Getting Yosted on Mar 4, 2010 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

We're getting into moderately foggy territory here

TheJay may stop by and correct me at any moment, but here’s my understanding.

The Brewers could DFA him and remove him from the 40 man entirely, but he’d be a minor league free agent after the season unless he was added again before then. He’s been in the minors long enough to be eligible for minor league free agency.

But, they can also DFA him for the purpose of sending him to the minors without removing him from the 40 man – it’s effectively like applying for another option for him. Teams don’t typically claim those guys off waivers.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Outrighting boots him off the 40-man roster

If he is not added again by the offseason (October 15 is the date for guys who accept second outright assignments, so it’s probably the same for first timers, too), he could be a minor league free agent.

Designating a player for assignment boots him off the 40-man roster in all situations. I’m not sure what you’re thinking of with your last paragraph…maybe option waivers? Even though he had options remaining, Dave Bush had to clear “option waivers” in 2008 because he had been in the majors for more than three years. Option waivers are special because you can pull the player back, but that’s neither here nor there right now.

by TheJay on Mar 4, 2010 9:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah, ok.

Option waivers is what I was thinking of. Is that not an option with Iribarren?

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 5, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

3 up 3 down

does not bode well for Nashville

by Nicole Haase on Mar 4, 2010 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, they might get another shot at Brandon Medders down the road

Because he’ll probably spend a chunk of 2010 in the PCL too.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:45 PM CST up reply actions  

How come?

He played the entire 2009 season with the Giants.

by sjlee on Mar 4, 2010 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Guess I missed him.

I’ve heard of the guy, guess I just assumed the eighth inning guy in the second spring training game wasn’t a likely roster candidate.

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by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Not really

Medders pitched 61 games in MLB last season… he’s probably a bit higher quality pitcher than those three will face in Triple-A.

by sjlee on Mar 4, 2010 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Ranging from Giants players going to work at a grocery store

and Kent screwing up players. Gotta love summer.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Mar 4, 2010 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

He made some comment about Sandoval, too

Something about leading the Giants in hits, RBI, and tacos – man can he really put them away.

by Nicole Haase on Mar 4, 2010 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

So I just got done working, how are they doing?

Unless someone has a gamestats link, hows the pitching been?

"Cubs suck. I own them" -Doug Davis

by Metagen on Mar 4, 2010 4:53 PM CST reply actions  

3-5 now

Smith just let them tack on a run in the eighth.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Live box score

link

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by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

"live"

30 second refresh

:)

by sjlee on Mar 4, 2010 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

More excellent

"Cubs suck. I own them" -Doug Davis

by Metagen on Mar 4, 2010 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Me too

I had to get the link from someone here.

Just an FYI… it’s not updating realtime… only each half inning.

by sjlee on Mar 4, 2010 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Everyone but Axford pitched pretty well.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

And Suppan

surprised almost everyone here with a solid 2 innings of perfect work.

by sjlee on Mar 4, 2010 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

This might be an interesting poll

I disagree. Zito is clearly making more than he’s worth, but how much more? He was a nearly 200 inning/4.00 ERA guy last year…on the open market today, he’d probably get roughly the nearly $10/per Randy Wolf did. So if that’s true, he’s overpaid by $7-8 million annually.

But if Suppan were cut loose today, I think he’d have a hard time finding a minor league deal. So you can count his full salary as wasted – he’s roughly $12.5 million over his value.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 9:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Or...

… you could just conclude you don’t want either of them on your roster at all, in which case having Zito around is worse than Suppan (at least financially).

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 4, 2010 9:49 PM CST up reply actions  

FanGraphs has Zito at 2.2 WAR last season.

That’s half a win less than Gallardo, and .5 wins better than the second most valuable Brewer pitcher (Hoffman).

He’s overpaid, certainly, but Zito would be a nice asset to have around.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 5, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

That's a convincing argument if your alternative...

… is the 2009 Brewers pitching staff. But I think the choices are better than that.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 5, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd guess just about every team has at least a starter worth less than 2.2 WAR

If they don’t, you’re right, they’re going to win 110 games and Zito won’t help them.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 5, 2010 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

The problem wasn't with your disagreement

It’s with the fact that you’re wrong. :-)

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 5, 2010 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I think you're a lot angrier about this than I am

I thought it was an interesting discussion.

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by Kyle Lobner on Mar 5, 2010 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

If that's true...

… then I suppose I am. Though angry might be too strong a word. I get annoyed fairly frequently, but angry pretty rarely these days. The fact that most of my wordier comments tend to come when I’m annoyed probably makes it seems like I’m constantly angry, so I don’t really blame you for concluding that I’m in that mood at the moment.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 5, 2010 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, that and the fact that you called my emoticon "disingenuous."

All told, though, I think the whole Suppan v. Zito argument is an interesting one, hence my comment above about it making an interesting poll. I’d be curious to hear what people think: Would they rather have Suppan, and completely flush $12.5 million, or spend more money on Zito, but at least get a tangible return from him?

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 5, 2010 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

That's because I thought it was.

Not because I was angry.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 5, 2010 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm surprised they're not doing pregame shows in spring training

The stuff they’d talk about for half an hour before the game might be as/more relevant than the last three innings of the early spring games.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:54 PM CST reply actions  

I think you just answered your own question.

They need something to talk about for the last three innings

"Cubs suck. I own them" -Doug Davis

by Metagen on Mar 4, 2010 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Anyone know who's pitching the ninth for the Giants?

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by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:58 PM CST reply actions  

I'm out of here

Time to head home and listen to the game on XM. Nice start to the season… can’t wait until the A’s game against Sheets.

by sjlee on Mar 4, 2010 4:58 PM CST reply actions  

Big fan of ice dancing, Ueck?

More like casual. No, less than that. I like it when the men throw the women up into the air. Right into the stands!

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Mar 4, 2010 4:58 PM CST reply actions  

Saltier than usual today.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Post game thread

is open.

Thanks for stopping by, everyone! We’re well over 700 comments today. Hope to see you all back tomorrow!

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by Kyle Lobner on Mar 4, 2010 5:03 PM CST reply actions  

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