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I may do a fanpost on this in the next day or so. Probably not, but I'm not going to rule it out. I seem to be more interested in this stuff and get more worked up about it than anyone I know.

It's interesting to me that the example used to illustrate the radical realignment theories that are being discussed doesn't involve a team opting into a division with lower payrolls in the hopes of sneaking into the playoffs, but instead a team opting into a division where it knows it can't compete in order to cash the checks generated by home games against big market teams. Sort of like when the UW Football team plays East Tupelo State and the "directional school" is promised a 7 figure fee for showing up to take their beating.

This is what happens when the logical solution, i.e. trying to find a way limit the on-field advantage generated by the economic power of the large market teams, isn't an option the owners or the union are willing to contemplate. The "logical" gymnastics that follow as they try to do SOMETHING to address the obvious competitive imbalance quite frankly make my head hurt.

Rhetorical question time:

Is this what you want the MLB to be when you try to get your kids hooked on the game? The sport where half the league in any given year isn't even bothering to pretend they're trying to win?

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Glad I didn't waste time with a fanpost.

As I suspected, I’m the only one concerned. Sometimes being the “get out of my yard” guy isn’t much fun. :)

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 9, 2010 11:09 PM CST reply actions  

Consider me also concerned

I just didn’t really have anything to add.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Mar 10, 2010 8:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Interesting to me aswell

just havent thought of anything insightful to post.

not a fan of the floating type system, mostly because I like traditional rivalries and hating certain teams every year. I also dont like the idea of checking out of contention before the first pitch is even thrown. Plus who is to say the yanks and red sox stay in the same division? It could lead to one of the big market teams taking over each of the divisions and ending up with 100 wins every year.

by Jeo on Mar 9, 2010 11:20 PM CST reply actions  

Do a fanpost.

This Floating realignment thing is interesting. I may help do some research to see what the traditionalists say.

or….

This could be Bud Selig trying to get one last hurrah in before he leaves.

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by Bush League All Star on Mar 10, 2010 12:59 AM CST reply actions  

I suggest a fanpost as well

I think the floating realignment idea as laid out in the article is dumb. I can’t imagine it ever actually happening.

That said, if they really want to do this and don’t want to put in salary caps or floors or whatever, just split the teams into two leagues by payroll and relegate/promote the winners and losers of each (as well as re-classifying by payroll) every year. That would still be dumb and I’m sure teams would find a way to game the system, but it’s less extreme, I think.

by TheJay on Mar 10, 2010 5:29 AM CST up reply actions  

they should do it euro club soccer league style

your team sucks: you’re out of the majors, and the top lower league team replaces you.

Then couple that with a reasonable salary cap and floor…

by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 10, 2010 7:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, but that doesn't work.

Unless you disassociate the minor league teams from the major league teams… which seems hard.

Shruggity

by Mykenk on Mar 11, 2010 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

or just cut the major league in half

and have the royals (and maybe even us if we turn in another 2009) play AAAA.

by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 11, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Less extreme is a poor phrase

I mean teams won’t need to flat-out admit they don’t plan to compete. It’s still an extreme shift from the way things are now.

Either way, I don’t see any major realignment happening. Maybe they’ll settle on some schedule tweaks so teams that finished in the top half play other teams that finished in the top half more often and then they’ll congratulate themselves for making things fairer for everyone.

by TheJay on Mar 10, 2010 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

and yet

the logical solution of a salary floor and cap to make the yankees and red sox more in line with everyone else is just not on the table?

by warwick5s on Mar 10, 2010 9:57 AM CST reply actions  

Red Sox were 6th in payroll last year.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Mar 10, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

But they won't do a floor without a cap...

… and they can’t do a cap without a CBA saying they get to do so. Any attempt to do something that actually prevents teams from spending above a certain level (rather than taxing them for doing so, which is what happens now) is engaging in unfair labor practices that would result in a 9 figure judgment in favor of MLBPA and the likely end of MLB’s antitrust exemption.

The MLBPA refuses to agree to a cap (or at least they always have so far), and the owners either can’t or won’t offer something big enough in exchange to coax the union off that position. The NFLPA agreed to a cap when that league agreed to garauntee that players would receive a fixed percentage of league revenues. When actual player contracts fall short of the fixed percentage, the league pays the balance in to the union which then uses a formula (approved by the players) to disperse the money to players who are outperforming their contracts. That system worked very well for a dozen years or more, until the owners decided that the players percentage was too big and opted out of the deal.

To me, a cap/floor is the obvious remedy worth trying, but to be fair it’s not a simple fix either. The NFL is significantly differently situated from the MLB, however, because that have broader revenue sharing and universal media contracts that prevent the sort of economic disparity generated by the MLB’s local media deals. Those disparities are now so massive that a handful of teams would, if the owners agreed to give the players a fixed percentage of revenues, end up forking over 25% of their revenue after they finished paying their own players. And the gap looks like it’ll continue to get wider before the “new media” revenue streams (which Bud cleverly convinced the owners to share completely before Steinbrenner knew what the internet was) begin to catch up with entities like the YES network.

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What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 10, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Ugh.

Italics fail.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Mar 10, 2010 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

I just can't imagine this happening.

Can you imagine the outrage that would ensue if, say, the Cleveland Indians decided they were moving to the AL East because they believed they had no shot at a pennant?

Granted, a lot of small-market teams are used to their team all but giving up on a current season before it starts, but what if something like this happened to the Brewers? I feel like they might lose a lot of fans that would never come back.

by Cheeseandcorn on Mar 10, 2010 12:31 PM CST reply actions  

Exactly.

Or what about the players? How angry would the players be knowing that they’re not playing for anything?

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by tcyoung on Mar 10, 2010 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Either way

That’s not a good overriding emotion for a baseball franchise to encourage.

by Cheeseandcorn on Mar 11, 2010 8:27 AM CST up reply actions  

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