Brewers 8, Cardinals 7
by BrewHaHeather on Apr 11, 2010 10:30 PM CDT
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PrintW: Trevor Hoffman (1-1)
L: Kyle McClellan (0-1)
HR: Rickie Weeks (2), Corey Hart (1), Ryan Braun (1), Albert Pujols, 2 (4), Matt Holliday (3), Casey McGehee (2)
MVP: Casey McGehee (+.467)
LVP: Trevor Hoffman (-.323)
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Mighty Casey did not strike out! After another blown save by Trevor Hoffman, Casey McGehee hit walk-off home run in the bottom of the ninth to salvage a win in the series.
Randy Wolf started the game and looked sharp. After Corey Hart missed an easy catch to lead off the game, Wolf retired the next three batters in order. After cruising through the next two innings, he ran into some trouble, allowing three of the first four batters to reach. He then walked in a run and allowed an RBI groundout to Chris Carpenter. Later in the seventh, he allowed a two-run homer to Albert Pujols. Wolf gave way to Todd Coffey after pitching 6.2 innings and allowing 4 R (2 ER), walking two and striking out 3.
After managing only two hits off Chris Carpenter last season (that stat may or may not be completely false), the Crew tagged the Cardinal ace for 7 runs (5 ER). Rickie Weeks led off the game with his second home run of the season. In the second, Corey Hart added a solo homer of his own. With the help of some great defense by David Freese (two errors in the inning), the Crew tacked on three more runs in the third. In the fifth, Ryan Braun collected his first homer of the season, a two-run shot to right-center. Every starter today, except Alcides Escobar, collected a hit today.
Carlos Villanueva and LaTroy Hawkins followed up Coffey to combine for a scorless eighth to set the stage for Hoffman. But once again, the all-time saves leader could not get the job done, allowing another two-run homer to Pujols, followed imediately by a homer from Matt Holliday.
Despite the epic blown save, Hoffman still gets the win, thanks to our friend Casey McGehee and his ninth inning bomb, sending everyone home happy. Clearly, no one told Casey they were on national TV.
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5 O'clock Club
Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 11, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
In Pewaukee?
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
24th & State
Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 11, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not a huge fan of steak, but I love Gibson's
Can beat a Lobster tail the size of a loaf of bread. Not too keen on Morton’s
What is a “good” steakhouse, in your opinion?
I’ve had nothing but bad experiences at Gibson’s (okay, 2/2 isn’t a lot, but when they get praised as the end all be all, I have to wonder what exactly I missed out on). So I don’t have any examples right now, and I’ll give Gibson’s another shot if I’m forced back into Chicago, but my current review is “one fat meh”.
Shruggity
Is this one of your Luck Wins™ ?
by Zorakathura on Apr 11, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Nah
Any pitcher dumb enough to throw a fastball to McGehee deserves to lose. especially one right down the middle.
McClellan is a big friend to the Brewers the past couple of years.
Slightly off topic but...
what the heck happened to the archived top plays on team websites? I can’t find it archived in one place anywhere anymore.
I don't know how to get into it from the front page
But the URL is http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/multimedia/tp_archive.jsp?c_id=mil
Failure is just success rounded down.
I'm concerned
I’m not normally a “small sample size” guy when evaluating a player, but I’m concerned about Trevor. I will give him the previous blown save was a great hit on one knee, but tonight was just bad.
Someone, please talk me off a ledge.
all I can say is sample size
but to my eye, his fastball looks a little bit better than it did last year while all his secondary pitches are no so good
A guy with Hoffman’s fastball can’t afford to throw it over the plate like he did on the one he served up to Pujols. Like I said in the gamethread, his pitches before that he was locating just fine. I’m not sure what happened.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
I can't believe I'm saying this...
… but I’m wondering if he’s lost confidence in his changeup. I understand the need to set it up with the fastball, and many of his locations were solid, but he didn’t throw it until Pujols was up and then he threw it just once to him before he went yard on the fastball.
He’s been shaky, no doubt. The HR to Stavinoha was a great effort by the hitter to get wood on the ball, but the pitch itself was pretty good. Stuff like that happens. Tonight, however, was far more concerning to me.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 11, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
That's crazy talk
but 1 changeup in 1 inning is truly curious. Any closer that doesn’t have an out pitch is not a closer.
Methinks the 42-year old could’ve used a few more Spring Training starts. The location and pitch selection kinks seem to be the kind of thing that every other pitcher in the league works out in Spring Training. I would expect him to get better over his next few innings, but it’s annoying right now.
could the klottaras
not have called a good game?
by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 12, 2010 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Who knows
But I think the all-time saves leader should feel comfortable shaking off his catcher and throwing his best pitch if he wants.
Failure is just success rounded down.
It turns out Kendall was Hoffman's secret weapon all along
The combined GRIT was too much for hitters to handle. I don’t think Gregg Zaun has enough. We’ll have to train Counsel to be a catcher. He’s certainly young enough to retrain, right?
by ecocd on Apr 12, 2010 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
he was the 3rd or 4th guy on the depth chart at catcher
in 2008 or early 2009. So, my guess is he’s been trained, although probably doesn’t make it part of his routine.
by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 12, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Trained in this case meaning he checked to see if the gear fit at some point?
Failure is just success rounded down.
I'm surprised the facemask didn't fall over his eyes blocking his view
I guess his dad must have made him wear that winter hat under his helmet that day.
by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 12, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m not smart enough to break it down by pitch or outing, but fangraphs PitchF/X shows that he’s throwing more fastballs then normal, and well below average change ups. His change is also much slower (4mph slower) then his previous stuff.
I wonder if that could be it. If he’s telegraphing his change more because he’s arm action is off. He could be slowing his arm to much, making his fastball much easier to hit when you know it’s coming.
has he had a scoreless inning yet?
I think maybe he had one scoreless in spring training. But it’s time to consider what relatives of birds (Hawkins) can do in the closing role.
P.S. I’m going to start calling Hawkins “Rob”
by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 12, 2010 6:26 AM CDT up reply actions
It's not time to consider a change until Hoffman picks up at least 7 more saves
That’s just how these things work.
Failure is just success rounded down.
unless your manager is an admitted coke head and knows his job is on the line
then you can make a change this early
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
yeah...i know...sample sizes and confidences
still, it might be time for a 15 day DL stint for temporary suckitis so we can see who else can fill in.
by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 12, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, I was getting at save #600
Not so much a sample size thing. They put that giant poster out in left-center for a reason.
Failure is just success rounded down.
true that.
milestones and all
does he have a performance incentive in his contract that kicks in with save 600?
by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 12, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, to get in Hoffman's head every outing
Let’s put a career BS one across from it in right center, to balance out the bad karma.
Shruggity
These things might help you off the ledge
Hoffman’s last four blown saves all came vs. STL. They could have figured him out (being the class of baseball and all), or they could just be his Kryptonite.
Also, small sample (as you know). It’s not too early to wonder, but it is too early to assume.
You've got a couple screws missin' up in your toolbox, if you think that you'll stop this man from hittin' moonshots.
Edmonds
Was he that bad in CF tonight? I can think of a play or two where he didn’t look great, but I could see Gomez or Gerut doing the same things.
Failure is just success rounded down.
From the stands..
He looked alright. Not steller range but made good reads off the bat. I’d say maybe average.
He made all the plays, but there weren't many that were all that challenging.
He got a terrible jump on a fly early in the game that would have cost him if there hadn’t been so much air under it. I thought he was fine, but he was largely unchallenged.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 11, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it just me or has Hoffman be channeling Gagne since the season started.
I am more and more nervous every time he enters the game. I hope this does not turn into a repeat of the Gagne year.
kumbaya my lord kumbaya :)
i've been nervous every time he's come in this year
and i also think he’s been throwing a lot more fastballs. small sample size i know. i couldn’t find if this chart on fangraphs was up through tonights game or not, but he’s at 70% fastball right now, career ave of 43%. when you don’t have much of a fastball you can’t let them sit there and time it.
by goirish2107 on Apr 11, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Fastball numbers are up
And it looked like both Pujoles and Holliday home runs were off it. I’m concerned, he wasn’t fooling much in ST (Against AAA- players). Perhaps it’s a slow start, but I’m one of those over reaching fans right now.
Gameday had him at one changeup for the whole inning.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
That's mind-boggling.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Apr 11, 2010 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Poor Randy Wolf
he deserved the win and because of the stupid way Wins work and Trevor’s aweful performance Hoffman gets the win instead.
I am getting close to the edge concerning Hoffman. Is he really who we want facing Albert and Holliday in August and September during a Pennant race? I gotta say I just wonder if he has stuck around a year to long.
Have to go read game thread
But why the hell did we bring in Hawkins to face one batter? That was weird, right? Villy couldn’t have faced that one guy after a K and 9 pitchers or so?
We went through 3 relievers to get 4 outs
and none of those guys were LOOGYs. Coffey comes in gets an out then gets pinch hit for. I can kind of understand that one. No idea why Hawkins had to come in though. It looked even worse after it seemed like we were going to extra innings.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
twss
okay…that’s a stretch, but i skipped a few words when reading your post the first time.
by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 12, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
... that's a stretch ... your ... first time
One express ticket to Hell, please.
by ecocd on Apr 12, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Another Hoffman thought
His last 4 blow saves are against the Cards. Could he be tipping his pitches some how? Just a thought but anytime one teams has that much success against a guy of Hoffman’s caliber you have to consider things outside the box.
kumbaya my lord kumbaya :)
by WSB Chris on Apr 12, 2010 12:45 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
For the Cards
That’s about as painless a walkoff loss as I can imagine. Talk about your ‘Oh well, fun while it lasted’ moment.
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