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Game Thread #-2: Tigers at Brewers

It's time, finally, for baseball in Wisconsin.

We're down to two games before they start counting, and the first one is at 7:10 tonight as the Brewers host the Tigers in exhibition action.

Follow the jump for tonight's pitching matchup and conversation on tonight's game!

Star-divide

Doug Davis (1-1, 5.40 this spring, 9-14, 4.12 last season) gets the start tonight. Since the Tigers are an AL and a Grapefruit League team, he hasn't faced them since 2006, when he pitched seven scoreless innings in a no-decision. Davis has allowed a lot of baserunners over the course of his career, and this spring has been no exception: He's allowed 21 hits and eight walks in 16.2 IP, good for a 1.74 WHIP.

For the Tigers, 25 year old Max Scherzer (1-1, 7.15 this spring, 9-11, 4.12 last season) will take the mound. Like Davis, he's had a hard time keeping runners off the bases this spring, allowing 15 hits and five walks in 11.1 IP. He gets more strikeouts than Davis, though: 9.2 per nine innings last season and roughly a strikeout per inning this spring.

I'll be honest - I scheduled this in advance and I'm on a flight to Vegas right now. So I don't have the lineup. If you do, post it in the comments so others can see it.

Enjoy the game!

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Is it typical

to have spring training at the actual home ballpark, or is this something new this year? Never noticed it before.

by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 2, 2010 6:15 PM CDT reply actions  

It's not the home park for Detroit.

But generally yes. I know that the Dodgers/Angels have a freeway series at the end of each spring training, and that’s been going on a while.

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by Yar Nivek on Apr 2, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's probably more typical for teams in domes or in the south.

Or new stadiums, as the Twins are playing exhibition games in Target Field this year.

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by tcyoung on Apr 3, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really wish this game was on tv

I’m at home sick otherwise I’d go

Get out of my dreams and into my Chuckie Carr
-Molitorfan 12/23/09

by Michael M on Apr 2, 2010 6:36 PM CDT reply actions  

How do tickets for these games work?

I’m planning on going with a group tomorrow. I’ve heard there’s a special promotion going on for students too.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Apr 2, 2010 6:42 PM CDT reply actions  

not sure about student promotions

but I’ve heard all tickets are 10 bucks

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-Molitorfan 12/23/09

by Michael M on Apr 2, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are tickets left, but not any in the really nice sections

You can either buy them online and print them or get them at the park before the game.

I haven’t heard of any additional discounts beyond all tickets being $10.

by sjlee on Apr 2, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

As Per McCalvey the Brewers line-up

Rickie Weeks 2B
Carlos Gomez CF
Ryan Braun LF
Prince Fielder 1B
Casey McGehee 3B
Gregg Zaun C
Corey Hart RF
Alcides Escobar SS
Jody Gerut DH

Yes there will be a DH in this game apart from that it looks close to the opening day line-up

by Saltire on Apr 2, 2010 6:46 PM CDT reply actions  

I sure hope Hart can stop his tailspin and regain the #5 spot, because McGehee hitting behind Fielder is a little bleh (Braun/Fielder/Dye would look pretty nice too, as long as I close my eyes really tight during the half-innings he has to play defense)

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by SRB on Apr 2, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dye's OPS(.793) was the lowest since 2004 last year

And he had a staggering -24.5 UZR/150 in RF. Hart’s OPS was only .040 points lower last year, he’s 30 years younger, and his UZR/150 was -9.1.

I’m no Corey Hart fan, but I would prefer to not have Dye.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Apr 2, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't necessarily advocating getting rid of Hart (I actually am something of a Hart fan)

Just that it would be a lot nicer to have Dye hitting behind Fielder than McGehee (or Hart, who has only posted an OPS significantly higher than .793 once in his career – his huge 2007 – and who wasn’t the victim of a significantly depressed BABIP last season like Dye was). Hopefully Hart can get back on track in 2010 though.

I wonder if they could just teach Dye/Edmonds to just cover half of RF – I mean, Gomez already gets to balls halfway across RF as it is.

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by SRB on Apr 2, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good points

Just based on salary I think I’d prefer to let JEd get a shot if Corey’s not going to hit this year.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Apr 2, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bleh?

I guess you’re one of the many expecting a regression from McGehee. Personally, I don’t expect quite that big of a slide from last season, so he’ll be fine behind Fielder.

by sjlee on Apr 2, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he’s going to collapse, like some people do, but I would be more comfortable with him #2 or #6 than as the guy who is frightening opposing pitchers into not pitching around Fielder (then again, I guess Fielder managed alright last season!)

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by SRB on Apr 2, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't like McGehee in the #2 spot

but that’s due to how I’d arrange my lineup. I personally don’t like putting a decent power hitter without much speed in the #2 spot. I like having the option of playing small ball and sac bunting the lead-off guy over to setup the RBI hitters.

by sjlee on Apr 2, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

correction on post above

Might not actually get to Vegas anymore. Stuck in the Milwaukee airport. If any readers are here, first person to stop by gate d41 gets a free handshake!

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Apr 2, 2010 6:50 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

why

Are you stuck?

by Nicole Haase on Apr 2, 2010 7:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

because frontier airlines sucks

Flight was delayed 3 hours because they didn’t have a crew to fly it. I missed my connection to Vegas, so now I’m spending the night in denver, where it’s cold.

Also, they appear to have lost my luggage. And I’m currently #7 in line at the slowest moving hotel front desk ever. Have to be up in five hours to catch my flight to vegas.

From now on, I will only visit places I can drive to.

That's all I've got for you today, unless you're interested in some Chris Capuano/Tom Haudricourt Fan Fiction.

by Kyle Lobner on Apr 3, 2010 12:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

ooh, Denver

world’s creepiest airport! which is totally not what you wanted to see!

by morineko on Apr 3, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

::Jumps into the Aveo::

::begins driving feverishly::

::stops down the block & says fuck it, I’ll wait til the 16th::

Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 2, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hmmh...

…first I’d have to drive down to Milwaukee…then buy a ticket (you don’t mess with TSA)…then get to the gate before you leave. XD

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by suphalissa on Apr 2, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a note:

Target Field looks awesome.

Shruggity

by Mykenk on Apr 2, 2010 6:54 PM CDT reply actions  

will be there on 4/22

Hopefully it will be as awesome as seen on TV.

Also! There are seats available for the Brewers series…well, they’re all single seats, and I think there’s less than 100 per game, but they’re available. I’ll be there for the 5/21 Friday game.

by morineko on Apr 2, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've got tickets to the 5/21 game also.

Not sure if we’ll be able to make it up though.

Shruggity

by Mykenk on Apr 2, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm already here

The problem for me is getting home—there is OK, I can take the bus, but no bus back.

You’ll have no problem trying to sell the tickets if you can’t make it to Minneapolis, I imagine. The demand is ridiculous. (April day games being mostly sold out? O_o)

by morineko on Apr 2, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

demand is understandable

It just sucks for people like me who make spur-of-the-moment decisions on attending games (or not) depending on who’s pitching. There were only so many Livan Hernandez and Carl Pavano starts I could stand watching in person. With my luck, I’ll be stuck watching an epic Pavano vs. Mitch Talbot faceoff in three weeks.

by morineko on Apr 2, 2010 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

And it's 90 degrees on my condo.

oven to 450 for 5 hours + will do that. Why isn’t this game on TV or the radio? Gonna have to move a computer to the kitchen.

Shruggity

by Mykenk on Apr 2, 2010 6:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Also:

I’m thoroughly confused by MLB.com.

I can’t tell whether I want to use Gameday. At-Bat, Gameday Audio? Trying to figure out what I’m paying for.

Shruggity

by Mykenk on Apr 2, 2010 7:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Well gameday is free. so don't pay for that

At bat is new, an advanced version of gameday that was mlb audio integrated in it.

"Cubs suck. I own them" -Doug Davis

by Metagen on Apr 2, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

K, so I'm paying for at bat this year...

I’m paying for gameday audio, have been for the last few years, auto-renewing, so I had to figure out how to get to my product.

Shruggity

by Mykenk on Apr 2, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

As far as I can tell,

If you’re an MLB.TV subscriber you now have to pay for audio for games that aren’t televised or are blacked out, whereas audio was free before today, with a video subscription.

by charmar on Apr 2, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Citgo hr count

Is gone.

1st base ribbon board has a problem. A section is out.

Ike is missing in strike on the score board.

Rober hack sign in left field is uglier then sin

club goodwill replace the left field bleachers family section.

by SgtClueLs on Apr 2, 2010 7:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

is donald driver there?

Get out of my dreams and into my Chuckie Carr
-Molitorfan 12/23/09

by Michael M on Apr 2, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

also

Don’t like the NYCE stadium club sign for old 300 club

by Nicole Haase on Apr 2, 2010 7:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Left field bleachers family section

was gone in 2009 already, relocated to club level, out toward right. We sat there one game and had an interesting view of the blue K strikeout counter.

But we can’t C IT GO anymore? Tear.

You've got a couple screws missin' up in your toolbox, if you think that you'll stop this man from hittin' moonshots.

by hawing on Apr 2, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Robert Haack sign is definitely in need of some graphic design

by drezdn on Apr 2, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously

That sign had a complete “fly by night operation” vibe.

Under the flag, just left of the batter’s eye, is a Hoffman banner showing his 591 saves, presumably counting up to 600. That looked nice.

You've got a couple screws missin' up in your toolbox, if you think that you'll stop this man from hittin' moonshots.

by hawing on Apr 3, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh

Not a good start

"Cubs suck. I own them" -Doug Davis

by Metagen on Apr 2, 2010 7:12 PM CDT reply actions  

And DD

Gives up a leadoff HR to airtran area

by Nicole Haase on Apr 2, 2010 7:12 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Woe

Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 2, 2010 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

team intro music

Smashing Pumpkins Cherub Rock

by Nicole Haase on Apr 2, 2010 7:21 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Efficiency of flight > efficiency of running.

There’s no static friction from the ground.

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by Yar Nivek on Apr 2, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone using at-bat?

Can someone tell me how to interpret the little graph-like things in the line score?

Shruggity

by Mykenk on Apr 2, 2010 7:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Hart

earning back a little bit of goodwill there

Brewers Baseball and other assorted nonsense (mostly the assorted nonsense) at my blog, What's a Tararrel?

by Lefti on Apr 2, 2010 7:43 PM CDT reply actions  

totally raining

Roof open fail. Its just a bit, but its still funny

by Nicole Haase on Apr 2, 2010 7:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

they should've known

i mean you can’t run a major league organization without keeping a few wizards and soothsayers on hand to predict the weather.

"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin

by sowingwildoats on Apr 2, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

also

As If there weren’t enough reasons to love gregg zaun – HE WEARS STIRRUPS

How has no one informed me of this yet?

by Nicole Haase on Apr 2, 2010 7:50 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

ooooooooooooooooo

I was not aware of that…wait, I don’t think he wore them in Spring Training…

Brewers Baseball and other assorted nonsense (mostly the assorted nonsense) at my blog, What's a Tararrel?

by Lefti on Apr 2, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a matter of fact, he did not

I hope he wears them regularly during the season, though

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by Lefti on Apr 2, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

Earlier in ST, however, he did not

Brewers Baseball and other assorted nonsense (mostly the assorted nonsense) at my blog, What's a Tararrel?

by Lefti on Apr 2, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

So how do we feel about Carlos Gomez hitting 2nd?

I know Macha did it a lot during spring training, but it looks like he’s going to do it a lot during the season…personally, I’m against it.

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by Lefti on Apr 2, 2010 8:01 PM CDT reply actions  

this is just my completely uninformed opinion:

alcides should hit leadoff. short track record, but his ML level at bats + winter league + spring training lead me to believe he’ll have a relatively high OBP.

weeks has the OBP to hit lead off, but i think the power he can show will go to waste in terms of run production at the top. move him to the 2 hole.

until gomez can develop some better plate discipline, he should hit 8th or 9th.

"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin

by sowingwildoats on Apr 2, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

The thing that keeps me skeptical about Alcides leading off

Is that his OBP is almost entirely batting average driven, and that’s almost entirely BABIP driven for him. Granted, he certainly seems like he has the skillset for sustaining a high-babip (lots of speed, seems fairly adept at hitting line drives), but I’m going to be skeptical till I seem him do it for a whole season. That said, I would bet on him having a higher OBP than Gomez at the end of the year, and, between the two of them, would rather see him in the two-hole.

Brewers Baseball and other assorted nonsense (mostly the assorted nonsense) at my blog, What's a Tararrel?

by Lefti on Apr 2, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

the only thing that concerns me with that is alcides hasn't shown much power

at least, none that i recall in the major league level (though he did have a homerun right?)

"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin

by sowingwildoats on Apr 2, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Escobar has Counsell-like power

I don’t mind Weeks in the lead-off spot and either Gomez or Escobar in the #2 hole.

Once Weeks gets on base, it gives them the option of bunting him over.

by sjlee on Apr 2, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Gomez/Escobar will probably have a similar OBP this season, but Gomez is probably a more polished baserunner and has a smidge more power at this point, so he makes sense hitting second to me (at least, over Escobar)

Not that it necessarily makes sense, but I imagine Macha’s reasoning might also have to do with taking some pressure off Escobar by letting him start the season at the bottom of the order.

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by SRB on Apr 2, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

can anyone load Gameday?

Because I sure can’t. I’ll be over in the Detroit thread, as apparently it’s on locally for them.

by morineko on Apr 2, 2010 8:34 PM CDT reply actions  

No

Probably the annual MLB server crash.

by SgtClueLs on Apr 2, 2010 8:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

i can

but it took acknowledging an ad-like thing (a popover that made me choose standard gameday vs gameday+audio)

by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 2, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

mlb.com

in general is crawling right now.

by rootsmaneuver on Apr 2, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

a dingus day miracle

oh, wait.

"I'll be glad to have Ryan help if he wants to. I'll give him a badge and he can be my deputy."
-Sheriff Melvin

by sowingwildoats on Apr 2, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

dave johnson?

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by sowingwildoats on Apr 2, 2010 9:14 PM CDT reply actions  

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