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Some things to read while ripping off your shirt.
Well, the series against the Braves went about as well as @notkenmacha's visit to Gord Ash's bathroom. And while the Braves wore their sweep suits (stolen from Raul Mondesi) on the plane back to Atlanta, the Brewers are left at home trying to figure out why they can't win there.
At least it wasn't as bad as it could have been, though: Yovani Gallardo took a line drive from Jason Heyward off his left shin in the fourth inning, but remained in the game and appears to be ok. SgtClueLs was one of many wondering why Gallardo was allowed to stay in the game, and remembering a similar incident.
Other notes from the field:
- Disciples of Uecker has a look at what might have been if Prince Fielder had managed to field Jason Heyward's seventh inning double.
- Colin Fly noted that the top three hitters in the Braves lineup saw 211 pitches in the series.
- Jason Heyward, Brooks Conrad and Casey McGehee are leading FanGraphs' Star of the Game Voting.
- CoolStandings dropped the Brewers' playoff chances to 11.3%, down from 22.5% before Monday's game.
- Even with the poor performances at home, the Brewers sold 30,175 tickets to yesterday's game.
The bullpen, which has been a strength at times this season, turned into a major liability in this series. Adam McCalvy notes that the bullpen posted a 16.39 ERA in 9.1 innings of work against the Braves, and Tom Haudricourt says they're "cooked."
It's been a while since we've had this conversation, and I'm surprised it hasn't come up: The Brewers have a bunch of capable relievers in Nashville, whether you want a potentially lights-out guy like Zach Braddock or a more reliable innings eater like Chris Smith, Marco Estrada or Kameron Loe. If the bullpen's issues really are tied to overuse, why not send down a position player (like Adam Stern, who likely won't get off the bench in a non-emergency or blowout situation anyway) and add a pitcher to the bullpen?
And, with the Brewers scuffling at home once again, the calls for Ken Macha's firing will likely heat up again. This week's BCB Tracking Poll, which opened before Monday's game, shows just 20% of voters approve of Macha's work. That's actually up from last week, when it was 13%. Drew Olson doesn't think a firing is warranted at this point, but J.C. Bradbury makes the case for the merits of an in-season managerial change, warranted or not.
At least the Brewer rotation wasn't the problem this week: Ben Nicholson-Smith of MLB Trade Rumors notes that the 2010 rotation is actually a slight improvement over the 2009 staff, but makes it clear that he hasn't watched or followed much Brewer baseball by making these observations:
- He lists Carlos Villanueva as the next candidate to take a spot in the rotation, passing over Manny Parra, Jeff Suppan and the entire rotation in Nashville.
- He lists John Axford as a candidate to join the bullpen over Zach Braddock, Chris Smith et al.
- He lists Jeff Suppan as a pitcher the Brewers could use as trade bait, along with Doug Davis and Dave Bush.
With another nine runs allowed yesterday, the Brewer team ERA is up to 5.07. That isn't keeping Rick Peterson from self promoting, though.
You can't blame the Brewers' recent struggles on Casey McGehee: He's hitting .357/.449/.548 in May, and has multiple hits in four of the team's last five games (going 10-for-19 with two home runs). Miller Park Drunk wonders where the Brewers would be without him, and Adam McCalvy reports that having him in the #5 spot could eventually force pitchers to throw more fastballs to Prince Fielder.
In injury notes, Adam McCalvy reports that Ryan Braun could potentially return to the lineup tomorrow, LaTroy Hawkins has been shut down and won't pick up a baseball until Monday, and Carlos Gomez will be eligible to come off the DL on May 21.
After a day to rest and recuperate, the Brewers return to action tomorrow, opening a three game set against the Phillies. The Phillies were rained out in Colorado on Tuesday and again in the second game of a doubleheader yesterday, but plan to stick with their scheduled rotation: Jamie Moyer tomorrow, Joe Blanton on Saturday and Cole Hamels on Sunday.
Alcides Escobar went 1-for-4 yesterday and is still looking for his first stolen base. Matt Hagen of The Hardball Times says he's "shocked" by Escobar's lack of steals, but is optimistic about Brett Lawrie developing into a solid major leaguer.
Elsewhere in the minors, Brewerfan.net is reporting that the Brewers have signed outfielder Josh Anderson to a minor league deal, fulfilling their plan to look outside the organization for a player to fill Adam Stern's roster spot in Nashville. In three major league seasons, Anderson has hit .272/.313/.353. The Brewers are his sixth organization in the last four years: He's been in the majors with the Astros, Braves, Tigers and Royals, and was in AAA with the Reds this spring before being released. He hit .125/.125/.175 in 41 plate appearances for Louisville.
On power rankings: Beyond the Box Score has the Brewers holding steady at #11.
Singles Night at Miller Park was a great source of comedy the first time around, and it must also have been a success: The Brewers are planning on doing it again on May 25, and Miller Park Drunk is already getting excited.
In another scheduling note, the Brewers will be making another Sunday Night Baseball appearance on June 6 against the Cardinals. The schedule has been adjusted accordingly.
Around baseball:
Mariners: Placed shortstop Jack Wilson on the DL with a strained hamstring.
Royals: Designated reliever Josh Rupe for assignment.
Yankees: Signed pitcher Tim Redding to a minor league deal.
Yesterday I mentioned Padres pitcher Tim Stauffer, who's out for 4-6 weeks after having his appendix removed. It turns out he diagnosed himself with his iPhone. Isn't technology great?
At one point I felt bad for the Orioles - a young team that's not very good and is in position to get absolutely hammered by the AL East this season. I stopped feeling bad for them yesterday, though, when they called up Corey Patterson, started him in center field and batted him leadoff. Patterson went 1-for-5, raising his batting line to .198/.228/.325 since the start of the 2008 season.
And the Griffey nap saga continues. Not only are the Mariners denying the story, they're also blackballing the reporter for writing it and refusing to out his sources. I was going to write a rant about it, but Craig Calcaterra did a better job than I would have done, and did it in 140 characters. Keith Law had the joke of the day.
Elsewhere in asinine behavior, we have the Pirates. They're routinely drawing "close friends and family" crowds to PNC Park, but apparently the ushers haven't noticed.
At least the Brewers aren't the only National League team that struggled at home this week. Stats LLC notes that National League road teams had won 12 of 13 games coming into play yesterday.
As we continue to look ahead to the 2010 draft, Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com has a look back at the top picks from the 2009 draft, and how they've performed in their first year.
Happy birthday today to:
- 2006 and 2008 Brewer Zach Jackson, who turns 27.
- 1999-2000 Brewer Lyle Mouton, who turns 41.
Finally, I'll admit it's a little navel-gazing, but I'm already hooked on Carson Cistulli's "Why We Write" series at FanGraphs.
Drink up.
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Sweep suits?
If the 2001 Brewers are any indication, the Braves will now go into a tailspin…which will probably last until July 15-17.
You've got a couple screws missin' up in your toolbox, if you think that you'll stop this man from hittin' moonshots.
Guess which team Jon Heyman is writing about?
They have a chance partly because the team leaders like [player] and [another player] are pros who put the game first.
Good thing everyone they’re playing is a bunch of amateur clowns who disrespect the game and put themselves first.
Also worth noting
I believe Capuano makes his first start above A ball since 2007 tonight in Nashville.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
Certainly an issue this bullpen is becoming
But again, this is all stemming from back of the bullpen issues. Hoffman just hasn’t been Hoffman so far this year, and Hawkins on the DL is sure to throw any bullpen out of sorts.
Maybe it is time for a shake up. Dodgers are desperate for starting pitching, maybe we can finally getting rid of Suppan, Dodger stadium will be kind to him.
I don’t know how I feel about Parra either, more I see of him, more he reminds me of De La Rosa. He just doesn’t seem to have it together now, but in a couple years, he could come out of nowhere for another team.
Decisions, decisions…but the pen needs help.
"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck
Thank you, somebody, for saying that.
Bettman's Nightmare: We See a Good Bettman/Fans Metaphor When We See One, and Frankly, Lane Smith Was Too Hard on Emilio Estevez When He Was A Kid.
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by Bettman's Nightmare on May 13, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
If we pick up the entirety of his salary
and the buyout and a few bags of balls and ask for nothing in return we might find a taker. That way DM wouldn’t suffer the embarrassment of having to release him, technically speaking. The other team gets a few bags of balls out of the deal.
A team that’s criticized for not spending enough money on their payroll would take on his salary if they don’t actually have to pay for it. It’s a win-win situation.
Its surprising that someone with a negative WAR projection can actually have a positive value
Ive got Suppan at $400,000 in surplus value, if you buy out the contract and pay for the rest of what he is owed this year.
Problem is that even if you dump him, you get something just as bad in return: either a big contract with zero performance, or a prospect that will never have a meaninful impact on the team.
At least if they release him, they clear a roster spot for someone who might contribute.
I think the bullpen is the toughest thing to shake up
Just because they are considered as a unit, and if you replace one guy, the others still have to perform their individual functions.
I was never high on the Hawkins signing this offseason, and although some thought the BP was a strength, I felt that at best they would hold even with what they did last year (which was a league average bullpen, at best).
There are definitely big problems in the bullpen, I just dont think there are a lot of solutions to those problems. This is one of those things Doug Melvin is going to have to live with as the bullpen he has assembled, and hope that it turns itself around, or lose his job perhaps because of it.
On the off-chance
I premake graphics sometimes so they’re ready to go, for the fun of it.. but since I made this one Prince has gone slumpy, so just in case I’m accidently jinxing the big man I’m going to use it now.

by nullacct on May 13, 2010 12:15 PM CDT reply actions 13 recs
Very Very Nice.
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by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been immortalized.
should’ve kept him in a utility roll
by Zorakathura on May 13, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is just freakin' awesome
I need to create a new username just so I can rec this again.
My goodness.
by BrewHaHeather on May 13, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Site tagline
Is under .500
BrewCrewBall – Fans of the Milwaukee Brewers, only because we lived a portion of our lives in the Upper Midwest.
Appendix issues are the real deal.
I was in the hospital for 2 weeks when my ruptured. Catch them early and it is a minor thing. If they explode, well bad news bears.
Looking to buy: General Manager Deputy Badge
by Bush League All Star on May 13, 2010 1:42 PM CDT reply actions
Doug Melvin
Can someone please tell me when Doug Melvin is going to get fired? If some of you defend him you really can’t tell your ass from a hole in the ground. More recently, before the year started I said we needed to KEEP JJ Hardy who didn’t have much trade value and is due for a rebound season or at least a better season than Alicedes Escobar, you didn’t need to trade Hardy for Carlos Gomez, that was an over-rated move, no we had plenty of depth in the outfield, Cory Hart can even play some CF, Matt Gamel RF, why let Jason Bougois go? You win with pitching, in addition to Randy Wolf we needed another starting pitcher even a notch above him, not DOUG DAVIS, from the start I thought another mediocre pitcher? We have plenty of those already! He should’ve kept Hardy at SS and traded the over-rated Escobar and another prospect for that quality starting pitcher, that would have been a much better idea. Although the offense has been inconsistent it would have been better, when healthy with Hardy, Hart and Gamel, not Escobar, Gomez and whoever else not to mention again if you keep Hardy you can trade Escobar for pitching which is how you become consistent and win!!!
I would have traded Escobar and McGehee
instead of JJ. Escobar will be the better player at some point, but he isn’t right now.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
ummmm...
I’m no Doug Melvin fan at all, but almost every point you make is without merit.
JJ Hardy needed to be traded because he was/is in decline and was due a big raise, and with the loss of Cameron, the Brewers gladly took on a cheaper, higher upside player in Gomez. Hart is not a CF, hes barely a RF.
Jason Bougeois???? Really?
There was only one impact starting pitcher available this past offseason in the FA market, and the Brewers werent able to afford him (Lackey). I do not believe the the Wolf signing was even a good one, as the money could have been spent elsewhere in the organization to improve the team.
Youre just kind of all over the place here in your rant. A lot of Brewer fans were spoiled by the 2008 Playoff appearance and expect it every year. For the Brewers being competitive every year with some luck is going to have to be the goal because of economics. If they build up the farm system with good arms and continue to develop good players, its going to be a 2 or 3 playoff appearances per decade type of organization, and I would consider that highly successful for them.
After reading this note about "Alicedes" and "Cory" and "Bougois" I'd like to propose a new rule.
If you can’t spell someone name, look it up. If you can’t be bothered to look it up, you don’t get to pretend to be an expert.
All in favor?
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on May 13, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't know how many Fs and Ns are in Trevor's last name
I hope you still let me contribute from time to time.
I think the complaint is more in the rationality of the statements than the spelling employed.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 13, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not planning on banning you.
Just saying you don’t get to write incoherent rants about him. :-)
Now that's great tasting chicken!
All I know.
If you defend Doug Melvin, you don’t know your ass from a hole in the ground.
Proper spelling is nothing more than a hurdle to ranting.
Also,
not DOUG DAVIS!
Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog
by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
The “ass to your hole in the ground” line actually made me laugh out loud at work.
Get a ife broseph
It's "from"
unless you’re planning on making intimate contact with your own crap
by PagsBrewCrew on May 13, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Was hoping no one would notice the mistake...
Really wish we had the edit function for that one
Get a ife broseph
it allowed me to make a good one liner:)
and FtJ to rip on me, so it’s all good.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 13, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
you realize you spelled "fallacy" wrong below...?
unless you planned on making intimate contact with your crap
Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog
by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
My Dad used to say that ALL the time
My old man, Great Ranter, Poor Speller.
Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog
by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
There is a 5% chance tdogit is actually my dad
And he just discovered how to used the internet and found this site to express his feelings. I can picture him saying almost all of those things.
If it really is my Dad we won’t get a response because as soon as the post was submitted the computer was turned off by unplugging it (true story)
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on May 13, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fantastic.
Old men ranting is good stuff….
Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog
by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Know what we really need?
Some MAJOR LEAGUE HITTERS! None of this Fielder/Braun horseshit we’re throwing out there right now.
Number of TW-S's uttered on BCB since May 9, 2010: 20
Acceptable TW-S's uttered on BCB in that time frame: 1
by NoahJ on May 13, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
not DOUG DAVIS!
Taking shallowness to new depths -- FtJ's blog
by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
or RAY DAVIES
for that matter. We need to get the kinks out of our offense.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 13, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right!
Maybe Backtocali can use his value calculator to figure out how many bags of balls we can get for them.
should’ve kept him in a utility roll
Its Sky Kalkman's Value Calculator
And I dont think there is a BOB function on it. I could write him and ask.
Hey new irrational anti-Melvin rants!!!
I think you tried this out on us already
http://www.brewcrewball.com/2010/5/4/1457372/tuesdays-frosty-mug#36721379
Maybe you’re really Doug Melvin, trying to build up the strawman fallasy – we disagree with your statements as to why Melvin sucks, ergo Melvin must not suck.
P.S. That’s not how it works.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 13, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought it sounded familiar
At least he didn’t resort to longing for Bill Hall this week.
He'll get fired
As soon as you can put together a coherent post that has meaningful points.
Hardy?! Let me know when his rebounding is going to begin… I’m sure the Twins would like to know too.
Hart can’t even play RF well, what makes you think he can play a more demanding CF position?
Plenty of depth in the OF? If that’s the case, why are you saying they should convert a third baseman to RF?
Bourgeois? Let me know when the 28 yo actually makes an MLB roster.
Who would you have wanted the Brewers to go out and get to replace Davis in the rotation for $5.25M? It’s not like there was a huge list of FA #2 pitchers.
You honestly think that having Hardy, Hart and Gamel in the lineup will lead to consistent offense?
I think you’re lost… this isn’t Old Vegas.
In the future please use the Rant-O-Matic
Brewer Rant-O-Matic
Use (A) the last digit of your age, (B) the first letter of your last name, ( C) the last number of your zip code, (D) your shoe size, and (E) the number of seasons you’ve been a Brewers fan, and use the values from the following tables to fill in this sentence:
Oh my God, the Brewers are (A) __________ ! They need to trade (B) __________ for ( C) ___________ and fire (D) ___________ immediately! We need more players like (E) ____________ again!
(A)
0 – horrible
1 – inconsistent
2 – frustrating
3 – amateurs
4 – garbage
5 – underachievers
6 – terrible
7 – weak
8 – lazy
9 – one trade away from greatness
(B)
A – Escobar
B – Braun
C – Counsell
D – Davis
E – Edmonds
F – Fielder
G – Gamel
H – Hart
I – Inglett
J – Gerut
K – Kottaras
L – Hawkins
M – McGehee
N – Narveson
O – Coffey
P – Parra
Q – Stern
R – Riske
S – Suppan
T – Gomez
U – Villanueva
V – Vargas
W – Weeks
X – Hoffman
Y – Gallardo
Z – Zaun
( C)
0 – starting pitching
1 – relief pitching
2 – power hitting
3 – gold-glove fielding
4 – speed
5 – clutch hitting
6 – younger players
7 – an every day catcher
8 – a bunch of talent
9 – whatever they can get
(D)
< 6 – the whole scouting system
6 – 9 – Macha
10 – 13 – Melvin
>13 – everyone but Uecker and the racing sausages
(E)
1 – Jason Kendall
2 – Mike Cameron
3 – Francisco Cordero
4 – Bill Hall
5 – JJ Hardy
6 – Lyle Overbay
7 – Scott Posednik
8 – Ben Sheets
9 – Richie Sexson
10 – Geoff Jenkins
11 – Marquis Grissom
12 – Fernando Vina
13 – Jeromy Burnitz
14 – Jeff Cirillo
15 – Kevin Seitzer
16 – Greg Vaughn
17 – John Jaha
18 – Dante Bichette
19 – Teddy Higuera
20 – Gary Sheffield
21 – B.J. Surhoff
22 – Rob Deer
23 – Jim Gantner
24 – Paul Molitor
25 – Robin Yount
26 – Cecil Cooper
27 – Gorman Thomas
28 – Pete Vuckovich
29 – Sixto Lezcano
>30 – Dave May
by nullacct on May 13, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 14 recs
this needs to go on the front page
Get out of my dreams and into my Chuckie Carr
-Molitorfan 12/23/09
*slow clap*
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Nullact may have the highest rec/post ratio of all time.
I'm not arguing, I'm just offering a relentlessly contrarian point of view.
FtJ and Jeff Sackmann might be in the running there.
but yeah…
by PagsBrewCrew on May 13, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
actually
I think the victory goes to DixieFlatLine
by PagsBrewCrew on May 13, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Doesn't get much better than this
Oh my God, the Brewers are weak! They need to trade Gerut for speed and fire Melvin immediately! We need more players like Dave May again!
Tangential, but whatever:
Saw Dougy Fresh at the Starbucks near Miller Park this morning. He didn’t look happy.
SRS BSNS
Fantasy baseball question
I’m in an NL-Only league where we can keep 2 guys year over year.
I have one open spot on my roster where I’m OK to stash a player. Idealy I’d like to get a guy who can give me some production this year while also being a good option to keep for the next few years.
With all that said, am I better off with Aroldis Chapman or Buster Posey?
Get a ife broseph
Posey
Safer for sure.
they say his bat is MLB ready right now, the only thing holding him back is his defense. I dont think he will put up Mauer types of numbers, but he should be solid offensively for a long time even with a position change.
Chapman has tons of risk, imo, will put up the big K numbers, but look at some of the Reds itchers who are like that now, like Cueto and Volquez. The team still isnt winning a ton of games for them. Chapman will probably always be prone to walks too.
NL-Only league?
I’d go with Hugh Heffner’s team if NL means “no lingerie”
by PagsBrewCrew on May 13, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
How does something like that work
If one of those guys gets traded to the AL next year or something? Sorry if this is obvious, but I don’t do fantasy baseball so I don’t really know anything about it.
Brewers Baseball and other assorted nonsense (mostly the assorted nonsense) at my blog, What's a Tararrel?
Our rules
You lose any guy that goes to the AL. Adrian Gonzalez dropped a little bit in our draft because of the threat that you may lose him mid season.
We use waiver priority to determine who gets first shot at guys coming over fromt he AL — was big last year with Holliday and Lee.
Get a ife broseph
If you lose a guy 'cause he goes to the AL
Is there some procedure to replace him, or do you just have an empty roster spot?
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That is kind of what I'm thinking
The difference between Chapman’s potential and the next best option (someone like John Maine) is huge.
The difference between Posey’s potential and my current catcher (Doumit) not as extreme.
Get a ife broseph
I would go with Chapman
I am not going to look up the stats but, I would never choose a pitcher who will pitch for Dusty Baker.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
That is
I would NOT go with Chapman. I would never choose a pitcher who will pitch for Dusty Baker. Of course what do I know about fantasy baseball? Nothing is the answer by the way.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
Good news everyone
At least we didn’t lose any ground to the Cardinals who just got swept by the Astros (At home.. so equally as bad).
Bad news – We are 4.5 games back and face a very good team in the Phillies.
Pitching Matchups
Wolf vs. Blanton on Friday – nice
Narveson vs. Hamels on Sat – Eh.
Davis vs. Kendrick on Sunday – Could get interesting.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
Although, I got an email from the Brewers saying Moyer is starting tomorrow.
mlb.com says Blanton, so I’m not sure.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
Narv-dog ruins Easter dinner, eats Honey Baked Hamels.
Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.
I'd prefer it if Narveson destroys the Phillies bats...
Unless you’re expecting a couple of HRs by Narveson.
it's Moyer, Blanton, and Hamels
due to the rainout last night. I’d rather have seen Narveson vs. Hamels too, but you get what you get.
The term "scuffling"
Has been used ad naseum on theMLb network and I propose a halt to it’s usage…
Goooooo-mez!
by Drew C on May 13, 2010 11:01 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Agreed.
The only two situations I’ve heard that word are 1) to describe a fight (in which case it has a completely different meaning) and 2) baseball. Seems to be one of Haudricourt’s favorites, in particular.
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