He's Baaaack. Ned Yost new manager of the Royals
Trey Hillman fired
Jason Kendall rejoices.
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Over/under on how many starts until Ned does something to break Greinke: 6.
If it was Dusty Baker, the number would be lower.
Yesterday
"Trey is a tremendous leader, somebody who is very consistent with who is he is day in and day out," [General manager Dayton] Moore said. "He’s exactly what our organization needs at this point in time."
Nothing ever needs Ned Yost.
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by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Right now we do.
It’ll be comic relief to distract from the Crew’s performance.
by Brew Believer on May 13, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've got a lot of Yost material in the holster.
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by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
TWSS
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on May 13, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
He needs to rest up for his 110 consecutive starts.
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by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
They're putting the band back together in KC
What other sucky ex-Brewers might be next?
by Brew Believer on May 13, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Scotty Pods
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by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
They traded the microphone for a car?
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"Soup pitched great."
This will be in my dreams tonight, and I pre-blame sjlee for getting my hopes up.
You've got a couple screws missin' up in your toolbox, if you think that you'll stop this man from hittin' moonshots.
Post game meeting
Moore: “Great job with the win today.”
Hillman: “Thanks.”
Moore: “By the way, where was Kendall today? I didn’t see him in the lineup.”
Hillman: “I gave him the day off. He’s already caught 33 of our 35 games.”
Moore: “You’re fired.”
by sjlee on May 13, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
He wasn't on the field though
It looked like Kevin Seitzer was managing today. (I was watching the game.) Also, Kendall wasn’t playing because he got hit in the arm yesterday.
I dunno
I think I preferred having Ned as a manager. At least back then I could identify the main problem with the team. Now, between the manager, the pitching staff, the non-Braun outfielders….it’s just hard to figure just one reason why this team blows. Well, one reason not named Melvin.
Going to have to start watching some Royals games, to see what real mismanagement looks like again.
by Marty McSuperFly on May 13, 2010 4:30 PM CDT reply actions
It's only on an interim basis.
Of course that is what they said about Buddy Bell
and Tony Pena
and Tony Muser
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by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 4:32 PM CDT reply actions
i wonder if the interim was ned's idea
maybe he thinks he’s got the braves gig after cox is gone.
by Capt Science on May 13, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably
I have a feeling this is not going to help his cause.
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by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
and math
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by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
math
my only weakness! how did you know?!
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by trippingandy on May 13, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
yost is fine with developing young players
so maybe alex gordon figures things out. and maybe they actually give some ABs to kila ka’aihue.
i might actually like this move for them.
See, I don't even think he is good at this.
I am very happy Ned Yost is back in baseball.
Only sad it wasn’t with the Braves
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by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I kind of agree
I don’t think he’s a guy who’s going to take a team from good to great, but he’ll take them from young to decent
Yost is good for a young team
I think he’s a fine guy for KC. When trying to build a team, you want a manager that isn’t afraid to stick with the young guys when they struggle, and defend them when the press and everyone else wants to rip them. When trying to develop young players you don’t want them looking over their shoulder every time something goes wrong, or hearing the skipper critcize them in the paper every day. When Yost was in Milwaukee he let guys like Hardy, Weeks, Prince and Braun just go out and play. He took the heat from the press, and was patient with them in their devolpment. That’s what led the Brewers out of the Davey Lopes/Jerry Royster Wilderness.
However, those qualities are exactly what got him in trouble once the team got good and was expected to contend. When the expectations are that you win now, you can no longer to defiantly defend and stick with guys when everyone on earth can see that something is wrong.
You may commence ripping me now.
by Mr. Kensington on May 13, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I agree with you too.
And if this did somehow help facilitate a Suppan-to-KC transaction, I would feel like the 2007-2008 Ned Yost era in Milwaukee was not in vain…akin to how the Brewers had to survive the Wes Helms era in order to (eventually) set up his go-ahead home run vs. the Mets on 9/28/2008.
You've got a couple screws missin' up in your toolbox, if you think that you'll stop this man from hittin' moonshots.
I agree also.
Yost was absolutely terrible at managing a bullpen, which is why I really couldn’t stand him. But he was a good manager for a young, rebuilding team.
My goodness.
by BrewHaHeather on May 13, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
As a Royals fan, though
I must say that the Royals aren’t a rebuilding team. They rival the Astros as the team in the most defiant denial of their circumstance. They are ruthlessly old school in their approach and young players with opportunity – even top 10 prospects – have seldom been granted a consistent opportunity to succeed.
Perhaps Yost’s hiring is good for them if your claims are true.
But there is no way you can call a team that signs and devotes significant – no, everyday – playing time to Ross Gload, Willie Bloomquist, Yuniesky Betancourt, Jose Guillen, Jason Kendall, Scott Podsednik, Mark Grudzielanek and others en route to 90+ losses year in and year out a “rebuilding team.”
Entirely abandoning the farm from 1995-2006 (11/15 years of that time) didn’t exactly help, either, though.
by Royals Nation on May 14, 2010 3:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I think he might help.
The Royals are the perfect team for Yost.
should’ve kept him in a utility roll
Scotty Pods will likely get less time.
and if you have ANY prospects at the MLB level, count on them getting a fair share of time.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2010 7:00 AM CDT up reply actions
That sounds like more of a front office issue
I don’t know much about KC’s situation, but I can’t imagine any manager being thrilled at being dealt that hand. At some point a team has to just decide that they are going with the young guys until they get it, wins be damned. But in order to do that you have to have that kind of talent coming up through the system. If you don’t then you’re forced to turn to the Grudzielanek’s and Guillen’s of the world and hope for the best. And that usually isn’t much fun for anyone. (See: Milwaukee’s Dean Taylor Era)
by Mr. Kensington on May 14, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Every KC pitcher better learn how to field their position.
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by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 4:35 PM CDT reply actions
They have no concept.
should’ve kept him in a utility roll
by Zorakathura on May 13, 2010 4:38 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This is a great thing to happen on an off-day
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by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 4:44 PM CDT reply actions
Good lord
I read the first eight words of the headline and almost had a heart attack.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
Dayton Moore's first good call for his organization
Yost is exactly the type of manager they need for the next couple of years.
To nosedive them into the International League?
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by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
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“See, I don’t even think he is good at this. I am very happy Ned Yost is back in baseball.
Only sad it wasn’t with the Braves"
He’ll be hired by the Braves for the start of next season. There it’ll be a bad fit, but he’ll still jump at the chance.
Yost is not getting the Braves job. That's going to Fredi Gonzalez, Eddie Perez or Terry Pendleton IMO.
Here in Atlanta, Ned’s name is hardly ever mentioned.
poll?
Maybe is already out there but who would you all rather have as manager… yost or macha? I know I might be the exception but I would rather have yost. Atleast he acted like he cares.
Macha.
In a lesser-of-two-evils decision.
by Cheeseandcorn on May 13, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Geez. I probably need to seek theraphy regarding Yost.
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by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 5:10 PM CDT reply actions
Yost's first thought when offered the job?
“Sveum’s still in Milwaukee, right? Alright, I’ll take it!”
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The Royals have absolutely no direction whatsoever.
And Ned Yost is going to be worse than Trey Hillman.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
But math is on Ned Yost's side.
You have no concept.
et cetera, et cetera.
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Explain the math + Yost jokes to me.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
In 2007
With the Brewers down two games to the Cubs for the division with four games left, Yost said, “The math is on our side.”
by Cheeseandcorn on May 13, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
That makes no sense. At all.
And thanks for the explanation.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
I think by the math is on our side thing
he was saying that it was still technically possible and math isn’t against you unless you’re eliminated. still pretty situationally funny.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 13, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, still my favorite Yost quote, when he admonished reporters for not understanding that Rickie Weeks is a natural run-scorer, telling them “See, you guys have no concept. He’s a run-scorer…That’s what he does”
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
Is there a WORSE manager they could have hired?
Hillman isn’t very good—he says all the right things, however—but Yost is horrible.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Dusty Baker and Lou Piniella come to mind as people still managing.
Bob Brenly and Buck Showalter for guys not managing. There are more I’m missing.
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Well Lou and Bob have championships.
Baker has some accolades, granted, he sucks balls.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Worse manager than Yost
Possibly the guy who lost the death star rebuild to the Ewoks
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by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Worse manager than Yost
Whoever does the booking for the band in the Mos Eisley Cantina
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
Worse manager than Yost
Guy in charge of New Jersey Generals
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by Fatter than Joey on May 13, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Worse manager than Yost
Whoever does the booking for the band keeping weapons out of the Mos Eisley Cantina
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Worse manager than Yost
that guy in Office Space.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Worse manager than Yost
the manager of the Cleveland Spiders.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Another manager worse than Yost
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Shouldn't we give him a definition?
I’m kind of new here, but I think it means “To lose a game because of negligent mismanagement, particularly of the bullpen or bench/lineup decisions”.
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Typically
It was leaving a pitcher in the game because he was only “one pitch away.” The starter or reliever would labor and have 3 runs scored on him with 2 outs. In a lot of cases, a starter would go out and pitch one more inning after that, but the damage was already done.
So Macha is different in that
He only lets them pitch the inning they blow up after the pitcher hits in the batting order?
Slim Neddy
I like to think that Yost blasted Eminem’s “Without Me” when he heard the news.
by drezdn on May 13, 2010 5:58 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This comment is amazing
The Shouse walk Howard to face Burrell thing is something I will never forget. The game wasn’t the same without Ned.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Just for everyone to remember how awful Ned really was at in-game management
http://www.brewcrewball.com/2008/9/15/615130/the-first-bloginental-blog
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
by Jordan M on May 13, 2010 10:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Except Jordan, you said the following:
As weird as it sounds, he wouldn’t be a bad choice for a team in perpetual state of losing like the Crew was in 02. The key is to fire him before they get in a playoff run.
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Exactly
I don’t think it’s a terrible hire. But…. he is truly awful at managing a bullpen.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Most managers
are horrible at managing horrible bullpens.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
Is Yost a born-again Christian?
Does he extol the virtues of BA, W/L, and GWRBI?
Does he chant “To Hell with Pitch Counts!” in his sleep?
Does he believe in calling for a sacrifice bunt….down in score 1-0….with the second batter of the season?
Does he only use eighth inning setup/bridge men who are jettisoned days later?
Does he hold team meetings before thousands of fans at home plate in the first Spring Training game of the season?
Does he bat Willie Bloomquist second?
Does he pinch-run your best hitters but never pinch-hit them?
Does he use Jimmy Gobble, a lefty with a tremendous split, almost exclusively against right-handers??
Does he leave your best relief pitcher in the garage in the eighth inning of a close game?
Does he leave your best relief pitcher in the garage in the ninth inning of a close game?
Does he justify not using that best pitcher in the eighth inning….on the basis of a surgery….which happened 6 years ago?
Does he have a thorough (mis)understanding of the term “leverage?”
Does he use Mark Teahen, a right-fielder, at first base, while using Ross Gload, a first baseman, in right field? In the ninth inning of a close game?
Does he believe that backup catchers’ primary role should be to keep Kendall’s bench seat warm between innings…and nothing more?
Does he justify playing a shortstop with no lateral range at shortstop because he has lateral range?
Does he openly discuss batting two hitters with career OBPs below .330 first and second….while moving your hitter with an even better OBP…down in the lineup?
Does he fail to see an opposing baserunner not only NOT tag up…but stand 30 FEET ahead of first base on a caught fly ball and then advance to the next base….and say NOTHING?
Does he let Kyle Farnsworth – not Soria or a lefty – face Jim Thome – on Opening Day – in a close game?
All viable questions when determining why he is a (2010) hire of an organization stuck in the scientific/humanities equivalent of the year 1274.
If he doesn’t do at least one of those on a routine basis, though….
…Well, it’s a start!
That's a bit TLDR.
He is a NASCAR fan. He is a reactive twit . He still might do an adequate in this circumstance.
should’ve kept him in a utility roll
I'd say about half of them are yes, unfortunately.
You will get a guy that is willing to play a struggling young guy for a long time before giving up on him. That’s why it could be a decent hire for this team. He’s a player-friendly guy that won’t throw anyone under the bus. Unfortunately, he makes mind-bogglingly awful bullpen decisions. With a LOOGY, Brian Shouse, on the mound in Philadelphia in a critical game in a race for the wildcard, he intentionally walked Ryan Howard and had Shouse face Pat Burrell. That’s just one example of the type of incompetence you’ll have to deal with.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
We just saw AJ Hinch of the D-Backs do something similar
just last week. Not as big of a game but he had his LHP IBB McGehee to load the bases and face Gerut and Zaun. Yost may have made bad choices but I think that if we watched every manager for every game we would find similar stupid decisions. We always rag on our guy but the next guy is just as likely sto really suck.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
this one is yes
Does he believe that backup catchers’ primary role should be to keep Kendall’s bench seat warm between innings…and nothing more?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 14, 2010 7:06 AM CDT up reply actions
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