Monday's Frosty Mug
Some things to read while meeting someone famous.
The only way this weekend's series in San Diego could have been much worse is if Trevor Hoffman had managed to blow the save on Saturday. Scott Miller of CBS Sports chronicled a nice moment between Hoffman and Ken Macha after Saturday's game, and wonders if a save in his former home could be what turns his season around. Anthony Witrado has some quotes from Hoffman after the save.
Over the weekend the team named Ryan Braun (.355/.430/.581 in April) and Carlos Villanueva (who didn't allow a run in 13 innings of work) their player and pitcher of the month for April, respectively. Braun is off to a pretty good start to May as well, going 2-for-6 with a double and three walks.
Meanwhile, Villanueva allowed his first run of the season in the seventh inning yesterday, raising his ERA all the way up to 0.64. His scoreless streak to start the season moved his career ERA as a reliever down to 3.74, with a 3.40 FIP. Ken Macha is citing improved command as the secret behind Villanueva's early effectiveness.
Other notes from the field:
- Jon Garland, Scott Hairston and Tony Gwynn are leading FanGraphs' Star of the Game Voting from yesterday.
- CoolStandings has dropped the Brewer playoff chances to a season-low 8.7%.
- Thursday and Friday's shutout losses were the first time the Brewers had been shutout back-to-back since July 27 and 28 of 2005.
- Friday's shutout was the Padres' fifth of the season, moving them into the major league lead. Of course, they have six now.
I've been hearing this quote (or a variation of it) a lot lately, most recently from Bill Schroeder after yesterday's third shutout loss in four days:
You're never as good as you think you are during a hot streak, and you're never as bad as you think you are during a slump.
Over the weekend, the Brewers were outscored by the Padres 21-2. That translates to a Pythagorean winning percentage of .013, or roughly 2.2 wins over a 162 game season. At least we know the Brewers aren't that bad...I think.
Meanwhile, Right Field Bleachers wonders if fans are starting to hear the window of opportunity close on the Brewers.
Disciples of Uecker notes that it's still early (too early to abandon hope), but also notes that the Brewers have fallen seven games behind the Cardinals and 4.5 games behind the Wild Card leading Giants. To contend for the Wild Card at this point the Brewers would have to leapfrog six teams.
Hopefully the Brewers can put this weekend's disaster behind them as they head to Los Angeles tomorrow for a series with the Dodgers. Baseball Brew has the list of former Brewers working in the Dodger organization, including Franklin Stubbs.
Carlos Gomez should be back on the field sometime during the series: An MRI on his strained left knee revealed no major damage, and he told Tim Powers of MLB.com that he expects to be ready to go tomorrow.
In the minors:
- Jim Callis of Baseball America answered questions about several Brewer prospects on Twitter over the weekend: He says Jonathan Lucroy's bat will be strong enough to make him a decent regular in the majors, it's too early to worry about Eric Arnett and Zach Braddock may be a closer in the majors someday, but not now. (h/t Battlekow)
- If you're looking to listen to a baseball game today, Brewerfan.net's Link Report has you covered. Jake Odorizzi and the Timber Rattlers are taking on Beloit at 11 this morning, with Huntsville (a doubleheader) and Nashville in action tonight.
- Efrain Nieves is scheduled to follow Odorizzi to the mound in today's Timber Rattlers game. He's also the subject of the Appleton Post-Crescent's latest Rattler profile.
- Two Timber Rattlers (Cameron Garfield at 12 and Scooter Gennett at 18) made Minor League Baseball Prospects' list of the top hitters in the Midwest League for April.
- The Brevard County Manatees first episode of ManateeV is now available on Youtube.
- Baseball America has a subscriber-only piece on Wisconsin and Brevard County's pitching staffs. I'm not a subscriber so that's all I know about it.
Here's something that might become a continuing story for Nashville: Saturday and Sunday's home games were both rained out and (as TheJay pointed out to me this morning) it could be a while before the Sounds play another home game, as weekend storms have much of Nashville under ten feet of water. The Sounds are on an eight day road trip to Round Rock and Albuquerque, and are scheduled to return home a week from tomorrow.
We occasionally discuss player/managers here, but what about a player/GM? Jody Gerut was asked for comments over the weekend on Adrian Gonzalez's contract situation with the Padres, and demonstrated an impressive grasp of economics both inside and outside the game of baseball.
At least the Brewers aren't lacking in top tier talent: Beyond the Box Score used this weekend's updated CHONE projections to make this chart showing the distribution of baseball's top 100 players: The Brewers have three, which is tied for 12th.
One of those three is almost certainly Ryan Braun: He's the starting left fielder and cleanup hitter for MLBDepthCharts' April NL All-Stars.
There was much more Brewer news over the weekend. If you missed it, be sure to check out Noah's Weekend Mug.
Around baseball:
Braves: Placed shortstop Yunel Escobar on the DL with a strained groin.
Mariners: Designated outfielder Eric Byrnes for assignment.
Phillies: Placed reliever Ryan Madson on the DL with a broken toe.
Rangers: Placed second baseman Joaquin Arias on the DL with a strained lower back.
Rockies: Designated reliever Juan Rincon for assignment.
Twins: Placed reliever Pat Neshek on the DL with inflammation in his right middle finger.
Byrnes' sudden departure from the Mariners might not have been entirely performance-related: Byrnes had to swerve to miss GM Jack Zduriencik while riding a bike down a hallway moments after a loss this weekend. That's not the kind of thing you can get away with doing when you're hitting .094/.237/.156 on the season.
From someone who doesn't get it to someone who does: Nationals GM Mike Rizzo gave this quote to Peter Gammons over the weekend, and it might be the best summation of a general manager's job I've ever seen:
"My job is to temper expectations, then try to exceed them."
At the moment, Mike Rizzo looks like a better GM than his counterpart on the Phillies, Ruben Amaro, Jr. Here's what Amaro had to say in response to criticism of the 5 year/$125 million albatross contract he recent gave to Ryan Howard:
The sabermetricians are welcome to have their opinions about our business. However, I choose to ignore their opinions.
It could always be worse: We could be Astros fans. After opening the season with eight straight losses, they won eight of ten to get back to 8-10 overall. Now, they've lost six straight again to fall to 8-16, worst in the NL by a game and a half.
Or, on a personal level, you could be Pirates OF/1B Garrett Jones, who missed time this weekend with an obstructed esophagus.
Sometimes when things are that bad, all you can do is laugh. Bob Uecker is better at that than anyone, and 7th Inning Stache has a top ten list of their favorite Uecker quotes.
I've been mentioning the Star of the Game voting at FanGraphs every day for a month now, even though I'm not entirely sure what they're doing with the final results. With that said, they've used the early results to name Stars of the Month for April, and not surprisingly no Brewers are mentioned.
Did you watch Sunday Night Baseball last night? Me neither. Joining us in not watching was SF Gate beat reporter Henry Schulman, who was taking a stand against ESPN for featuring a New York team on Sunday night for the fourth time in five weeks. Last night was the Mets' third consecutive appearance, and the Yankees will make their second appearance next week. I'm only bringing this up because of a strange quirk: Of the first seven Sunday Night telecasts of 2010, only two won't involve the Yankees or Mets, and the Brewers are in both of them.
On the other end of the spectrum, we have the Padres. Despite being off to a very hot start and leading the NL West, 7th Inning Stache notes that they've been the free game on MLB.TV more often than any other team, and uses that fact to make the case that MLB sees them as one of baseball's least popular teams.
Speaking of unpopular things, we're continuing to see reaction around baseball to Arizona's new immigration law:
- Adrian Gonzalez is threatening to boycott the 2011 All Star Game (scheduled to be held in Phoenix) if the law is upheld.
- Maury Brown of The Biz of Baseball thinks it's possible players could boycott the 2010 Arizona Fall League.
If you read the game threads, you likely know that I'm not a fan of the wave. If you needed a better reason not to do it, here you go: Cub fans do it.
Maybe this is only relevant to me, but as someone who spends a lot of time reading and linking baseball blogs, I found The Baseball Analysts' Network Structure graphs fascinating, and spent much too long trying to figure out which (if any) of those dots represent BCB.
Speaking of interesting posts, Sully Baseball continues to receive lots of feedback from a post from last season about former Brewer Bryan Clutterbuck, who sounds like he's spending his post-playing career helping out in the community.
A weekend worth of happy birthdays:
- 1993 Brewer Joe Kmak turns 47 today.
- 2000-02 Brewer manager Davey Lopes turns 65.
- Huntsville Star Michael Bowman turned 23 yesterday.
- Wisconsin Timber Rattler Scooter Gennett turned 20 Saturday.
- 1985-90 Brewer Charlie O'Brien turned 50 on Saturday.
- 1984-85 Brewer Ray Searage turned 55 on Saturday.
- 1976-77 Brewer Von Joshua turned 62 on Saturday.
Finally, I wanted to take a moment today to say thank you. Brew Crew Ball drew 104,574 visits for April, the second largest month in site history. That's also up 34% from April of 2009. Thanks to all the readers, commenters and contributors that helped us reach that mark.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm not feeling harmonized.
Drink up.
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There was some talk
About changing the venue of the All Star Game sometime last week. I wouldn’t be surprised if it ended up happening, if more players decided to boycott the game. I guess the only big question would be where it would then be held and who would pick the new venue. It also wouldn’t surprise me if there ended up not being a game, if the venue isn’t changed. We’ll just have to wait and see I guess.
The changes made to the law recently are supposed to stop racial profiling, but I’m not entirely sure that can be done. It still happens in several parts of the country with regard to other minorities, even though it is looked down upon and not officially sanctioned by police departments. You can’t control the thoughts of the officers out on patrol, so it’s likely that many of them will still use race as a basis for checking the immigration status of people. Let’s face it, this law was specifically targeted at illegal Mexican immigrants, and any efforts to change the appearance of the bill will not really alter how it is used.
Oh Rickie, you're so fine. You're so fine, you blow my mind. Hey Rickie! Hey Rickie!
20% of the 2009 All-Stars
Were not born in the US. (Not including Edwin Jackson, who was born in West Germany to parents stationed overseas). Carlos Gomez was born in the Dominican Republic. Alcides Escobar is from Venezuela.
I for one am all in favor of swinging the doors open and welcoming immigrants, especially if they can hit a curve ball.
by nullacct on May 3, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dot Graph
BCB was on the graph, in the upper-middle leftish region, the one with a bunch of lines coming out of the top. In the comments he posted a fully labeled version.
Top 3 Brewers position players by WAR
The BtBS Chone graph linked above that has 3 Brewers in the top 100 from May to the end of the year has Prince at 3.8, Braun at 3.5 and Gomez at 2.2.
Baseball analysts blog nodes
“Fack Youk, Amazin Avenue and Brew Crew Ball are three relatively separate nodes all sending out tons of links. I also really like how strongly the sabermetric-based non-team blogs cluster out together in the middle.”
It links to an image here
which is currently not displaying properly on my laptop. It looks though that we’re near the middle (a bit up-left of that) as BrCrBa
Are you against the wave in general or only for baseball?
I loved the wave around the 4th quarter at Wisconsin football games when I was a student there. I think we managed the full 5 waves once in my 4 years there (iirc, regular, slow, fast, reverse, split). That was a special day.
I always wanted a split
where it went around the stadium fast counterclockwise and slow clockwise.
That never happened though.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 3, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Given that the split worked once in 4 years
I think it’s asking a bit much for changing pace on the split. It’s a cool idea, though.
I was at least two games that it worked
1996 and 1997 seasons I went to a few games. Maybe even a game or two in 1998
by PagsBrewCrew on May 3, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
It works every time now at Camp Randall.
On Monday, the slow wave came around Miller Park, followed by the fast wave. The split didn’t work. It’s tough when there are gaps between the bleachers and the rest of the stands, especially when the people starting the wave are sitting right on the edge of that gap.
Normally, I hate the wave. I like the Badger wave, though.
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^THIS^
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 3, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Because God forbid the students would want to watch the game.
Or, you know, get there before the kickoff.
SRS BSNS
in all fairness
if you start a game in the morning on a weekend, you shouldn’t expect students to show up on time. I wasn’t a heavy drinker, but I was still usually asleep at 11AM on saturday.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 3, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
If it was just the 11 am starts, that'd be one thing.
But when you’re playing State Penn on national television and it’s a 7 p.m. kickoff, your student section should be more than 60% full when the ball drops.
SRS BSNS
I've been called names for this before
But this sentiment pretty much sums up how I feel about all sporting events. If you bought your ticket, you should be there on time, you should display more than a casual interest in watching the game, and you should stay to the end. If you can’t do that, why’d you spend money (frequently a lot of it) on a ticket?
If you can’t do those things, at the very least you should make an effort to stay out of the way while I’m trying to watch.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
99% of the tickets for the student section
are paid for either directly or indirectly by the parents.
Very few pay for all of their own tuition, room, board, other entertainment and football tickets.
99% is a pretty extreme assumption
Myself and a lots of my friends didn’t have much, or any parent help and made it through school with jobs and lots of student loans, I doubt we were in the 1%
Get a ife broseph
I rowed that boat, too
My EFC on financial aid was zero every year I was in college. I worked my way through.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 4, 2010 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions
That's simply not true.
While you’re right about a lot of kids getting the tuition and living expense paid for by their parents, that number still isn’t 99%. Even if it’s closer to 75%, I’m guessing most of those kids are left to use their own cash for football tickets. I’d say maybe 25% of the kids had mommy and daddy pay for their football tickets.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
right...
but the point is mommy and daddy are subsidizing those tickets. if the student had to pay for tuition, books, food, and their apartment themselves, chances are they couldn’t afford football tickets (supertramp and charlie aside).
As to supertramp’s student loans: a fair number of those with student loans (I don’t know if it’s 80% or 5%, but more than 1% in any case:P) treat a loan as “free money” and really don’t treat that as money that they owe and have to pay back to someone.
Of course
I’m a heck of a lot more responsible with money now than when I was 18, I (and everyone else who had loans) still have to pay it back.
Get a ife broseph
In fact, if you default on a student loan
Its pretty much financial suicide. I know a guy who defaulted. He couldn’t even rent an apartment without a co-signer. Sick.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 4, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't like the UW hate
From the Marquette-ers
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 3, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Like your football team?
Or the fun that was your first round elimination from the tournament in the only sport that your school has?
Fun!
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 3, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
You're not even a division 1 school if you can't compete in 2 of the 3 major sports, in my opinion
But hey! If you’re in the Little LEast, you’re guaranteed a tourney bid and a first round exit in basketball!
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 3, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
And, also:
I don’t think either of our teams has much to crow about, in terms of the tournament this year.
SRS BSNS
Sure, but you Golden Eagles like to shit-talk about the basketball program (since that's what you have)
So, I’m pointing out that you folks stopped watching relevant games earlier than we.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 3, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey guys
Remember when we used to talk baseball?
Between yesterday’s scratching and clawing over Harry Potter and today’s drop-down drag-out over Marquette, I’ve almost forgotten.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
Won both games of their doubleheader Saturday!
Not bad.
"Probably won't make a decision until after the decision starts"
Here I thought I was trying to keep it on-topic yesterday
Guess I’m in the wrong.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 3, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
We'd probably talk more about baseball
If the Brewers were actually playing baseball. A 3-hit shutout doesn’t give us much to talk about and neither does a shut out. I think we’re all just a bit talked out at the moment. What else is there to say about the Brewers?
Weeks is having trouble seeing the ball
Gomez is better than last year, but still not an All-Star
Braun is still hitting crazy good and his defense appears to be improved
Fielder isn’t seeing any pitches to hit
McGehee is ice cold during the losing stretch (see Fielder above)
Corey Hart and Jim Edmonds are both hitting well enough to justify their rotation with Gomez
Zaun and Kottaras are pretty much ignored because no one really expected anything of them anyway (and we’re all just waiting for Lucroy, anyway)
Craig Counsel still needs to be carded before getting into a bar.
If Gamel wasn’t still injured, we could at least have a debate about McGehee taking a breather.
There just isn’t much to say that hasn’t already been said.
by ecocd on May 3, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ew, who wants to do that?
I think it’s interesting the wave during a football game is okay but during baseball is not. Is that because there’s less time to sit around and gripe about what everyone else is doing?
Failure is just success rounded down.
Back when all these "games" started...
the Badger football team was crap, so there wasn’t anything worthwhile to watch. It was all about entertaining yourself until 5th quarter came.
Can't believe "late students" has followed me to BCB
On the Badger message boards there is almost always a post complaining about late arriving students after every single game.
Its been played out to the point where if anyone complains about anything someone always chimes in with “F’ing students”
Get a ife broseph
non-student college sports fans are the worst
then again, college sports are pretty terrible in general
Right, its as if the sports would exist for the 'fans' and 'boosters' if the students weren't there.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 4, 2010 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions
That's pretty cool.
I haven’t had the chance to go to a game since I graduated, but I’m glad the casual fan sections have been educated on this. It’s another Camp Randall tradition. :-)
It's great how those things get passed on from generation to generation
The wave, rowing, shouting obscenities at the nearby sections (O vs. P), Bud song, U Rah Rah… it’s all good.
my favorite is the slow wave
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
Yes
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 3, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
As a rule
If I’m trying to watch a game and someone is standing up in front of me, I’m against it.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
then you should stand up too
and if you’re short, you should stand on a chair.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 3, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Totally why Bill Veeck hired midget ushers/vendors at one point.
Failure is just success rounded down.
isn't there a mexican restaurant in milwaukee that sorta uses that principle
short guy walking around with chips and salsa on his sombrerro for ease of serving as well as to not block the TVs?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 3, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
yep...that's the name
can’t say that I ever patronized them though.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 3, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
looks like it's now a AAA insurance office
assuming 775 Jackson really was the address.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 3, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep, that was it.
I remember when it was the Gas Light bar, then it became Nacho Mama’s. It was owned by Johnny Vassallo… owner of the Mo’s franchises.
The Brewers Suck!
WOW!
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
Yeah I screwed it up
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 3, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Looking to the future
I’m already convinced this team does not have what it takes to be any better than 3rd place and miss the playoffs so I’m looking ahead to next year and the year after. Not considering free agents who do you see coming up from the minors and taking on everyday roles…Lucroy, Gamel, Lawrie? What does the roster look like in 2 years?
Some people like cucumbers better pickled
Do you think they should even bother playing the rest of the games?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 3, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not giving up
I still plan on watching all the games and will continue to hope they can go on a long winning streak and get to the top of the standings.
Its still very early
I dont think you can start accurately projecting final W-L records until you have played at least 30 games.
Since theyve finished just a little under 15% of them so far, lets say they are a .500 team and need some luck to make the post season. Expand out to the last 5/6ths of the season, 120 games or so and the team would be 70-75 if they play .500 ball from here on out. That would leave 17 games left in the season. They would have tow in 5 just to get back to .500 and another 6 to assure a winning season. They would need to win all 17 just to get to 87 wins which probably doesnt get you the WC or the division.
Of course were talking too small of a sample size so far and doesnt factor in what other teams would do. But it does show a bit how hard it is to come back from a slow start.
Looking ahead to the next season
isn’t ‘giving up’?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 3, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Closing window
Ive thought all along this year, and last year too, the same thing. You still play the game though, anything can happen.
The pitching has been the main problem both this year and last, and without the right Fielder trade by July 31 of this year, you get more of the same, imho.
And even then, its a 2 year, at least rebuild, where the team isnt horribly bad, but isnt horribly good. As mentioned in the mug, Lucroy probably winds up being a solid to average MLB catcher, and Lawrie is probably the next RF. Both guys are at least 2 years away from full time jobs with the team.
Jack Z’s drafts, and the way the cash is spent by the FO is what put the team in the position its in, again, imho. His drafts were loaded with offense, nothing else. The team seems to be on a change in philosophy there focusing a bit on defense and pitching, so with that said, its probably 3 or 4 years before we see the fruits of Seid’s drafts in the w-l column. I think in this years draft they need to go high upside pitcher who falls to them, as opposed to the safe college guy who might still be around.
I tend to agree
Although when I’ve said this:
Jack Z’s drafts, and the way the cash is spent by the FO is what put the team in the position its in, again, imho. His drafts were loaded with offense, nothing else. The team seems to be on a change in philosophy there focusing a bit on defense and pitching, so with that said, its probably 3 or 4 years before we see the fruits of Seid’s drafts in the w-l column. I think in this years draft they need to go high upside pitcher who falls to them, as opposed to the safe college guy who might still be around.
In the not-too-distant past, I’ve gotten lambasted for the sentiment.
Mat Gamel needs to get a 1B glove in the mail and begin taking grounders there. Lawrie needs to switch to RF ASAP. Or vice versa (although with my feeling that Fielder will be traded after the season (I just don’t think that Mark A will allow it in-season unless the Crew is down hanging out with the Astros before July 31), and thus Gamel will likely be more ready to fill in at 1B in 2011).
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 3, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
In the past you’ve advocated college pitching and lauded how you were a fan of the perceived shift in philosophy by the Brewers to focus on college pitching (no, haven’t forgotten that discussion…ha ha).
Have you changed your mind and agree with the end of the quote you cited?
Get a ife broseph
Nope I just didn't read the last sentence well
I still appreciate the college pitchers. Not that there’s anything wrong with high school pitchers, its just the chance they can make a significant impact is about half the chance college pitchers have.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 4, 2010 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Trevor Hoffman
The man throws 85 mph fastballs. He’ll always need a handful of rough outings before he finds his spots and starts running hot. (I do not like them, Sam I Am, I do not like green eggs and ham.) Think Greg Maddux late in his career…
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by Bettman's Nightmare on May 3, 2010 11:51 AM CDT reply actions
Ahhhh...I see!
That’s what we’re to expect out of our $8MM closer™!
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 3, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Maddux was getting $10 million per
…and for the record, we’ll be singing Hoffman’s praises soon enough (kind of like last year, remember?). You want a legitimate gripe? How about what we’re paying Hawkins for the 8th inning and a spotty player history?
Bettman's Nightmare: We See a Good Bettman/Fans Metaphor When We See One, and Frankly, Lane Smith Was Too Hard on Emilio Estevez When He Was A Kid.
http://bettmansnightmare.blogspot.com/
by Bettman's Nightmare on May 3, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
DL
They should’ve given Hoffman some Suppillows™ and DL’d him for a few weeks so he could’ve fired off 18 scoreless innings out of the gate like last year.
Failure is just success rounded down.
Now if “Suppillows” only worked for Jeff Suppan…
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by Bettman's Nightmare on May 3, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
You might be singing Hoffman's praises
I’m more realistic. I’m betting his 2010 will end up worse than his 2008.
You are OK with wasting $8MM on a closer™, even one who is 42. I, most definitely, am not.
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by Charlie Marlow on May 3, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Never really thought much about it
Gagne got $10MM for totally sucking – $8MM for Hoffman seemed like a bargain.
A Closer(TM) is one of the most idiotic concepts in all of baseball
And paying millions and millions for one is worse.
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by Charlie Marlow on May 3, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Most idiotic concept
It’s really stupid on paper, but it makes sense in real life. Not everyone has the icewater to pitch the 9th inning.
I think it’s an interesting concept, but it’s used completely wrong. But to say it’s one of the most idiotic concepts in all of the game is a bit of hyperbole, don’t you think?
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Not really, in my opinion
Jack Moore has a good article up about the Rockies using their closer in a high leverage situation in the 8th inning. It brings up questions (in my mind) about the relevance of LI. Shouldn’t your best reliever be used in the most important situation in the game? That’s just what the Rockies did, and then brought in Manny Corpas for the 9th, which actually ended up being a significantly lower LI than the 8th inning situation.
The question is, then, if that reliever is used, say, in the 8th in a high leverage situation and gets out of it, does it reduce the LI of the following inning? If it does, then I say set-inning roles is idiotic. When you factor in match ups, I think its even more glaring.
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by Charlie Marlow on May 3, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, article at Fangraphs.
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by Charlie Marlow on May 3, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
This is not a revolutionary concept; sabermetricians have been arguing this for years. Your best reliever should be used in high-leverage situations, regardless of inning. Tell it to Ken Macha. He’s the one following the 7th inning pitcher-8th inning pitcher-closer paradigm. A baseball team is not a democracy; I’m just glad we’re not Pirates fans.
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by Bettman's Nightmare on May 3, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Right, that's what I was saying
Sorry I didn’t get it through all that clearly to begin with. Sometimes I go from A to D without stopping at B and C on the way.
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by Charlie Marlow on May 4, 2010 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh, yeah, I agree with you.
And, I mean, the point was made a long time ago in The Book.
I’m not arguing that the closer shouldn’t be used in the 8th. I just think that the idea of a closer is not altogether stupid. Stupid? Yes. There are plenty of pitchers that cannot handle the 9th inning. There are also plenty of pitchers who are creatures of habit. I mean, there are certainly reasons for having a closer, if you look past the stats aspect of the game.
When complaining about stupidity as it relates to closers, I would start with the Saves stat, rather than the Closer. Without that stat, teams don’t use the bullpen the way they do, and Closers don’t make as much money as they do.
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Absolutely
Really, “paying for saves” is what irritates me. All the stuff above goes into it, too. And, yes, I agree with what you’re saying. Although there are guys who seem to be able to handle the 9th sometimes, though not all the time. And, really, every guy is going to have a bad outing here and there.
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by Charlie Marlow on May 4, 2010 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Dude, I never said I was okay with it. I said he will get his feet under him. I understand that the closer idea is idiotic and I’m not about to defend it, nor have I.
What’s preposterous is railing against an 8 million dollar deal for a guy coming off of an excellent year as the best pitcher in our bullpen. Contracts aren’t signed because we know Hoffman is going to have a 21.4% HR/FB rate, or because we know he’s going to be 20 percentage points lower than his career GB%. They aren’t signed because we know that batters are going to get contact (somehow) on 77.8% of his pitches outside of the zone (25% above his career average). His pitch speeds are all in line with his averages over the last seven years, and his control is still there. In other words, let’s realize the sample size and calm down.
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by Bettman's Nightmare on May 3, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, in the small sample size, Hoffman appears to be having difficulty with his command of both the fastball and change up.
The main point I’m making is, at 42 years old, players typically slide a lot faster. His 2008 wasn’t great, and then he came back in a more hitter-friendly environment to put up a preposterous HR/FB and HR/9 rate. To me, that looks like a good deal of luck.
So, no, he didn’t get $8MM because The Mustache thought he was going to put up terrible numbers. I think the breakdown in logic is the assumption he was going to continue to do what he did in 2009, and he got paid for it. Its been a trend for this front office, and its frustrating.
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by Charlie Marlow on May 3, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Fangraphs estimated his 2008 was worth $7.5 million, by the way.
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by Bettman's Nightmare on May 3, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
scratch that...
that was his salary that year…
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by Bettman's Nightmare on May 3, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
To use that as a guide for salary, however, is an incorrect usage of that value
Its based on contracts given in the free agency year, and the value a team might supposedly pay for a marginal win.
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