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How do you solve a problem like Maria...err, Trevor?

Trevor Hoffman, that is.

OK, we all know the 'Crew is in a bit of a pickle with the all-time saves leader.  Trevor is 4 saves away from the nice round number of 600 career saves, yet recently - when given the opportunity - has failed to get any closer to that goal.  There are myriad suggestions of what can or should be done about this, ranging from cutting him loose and letting him be somebody else's problem (but thereby missing the chance for any promotional benefits when/if he reaches 600), to having a "devil may care" attitude and throw him out there when we have a 9th inning lead and HOPE he manages not to blow it.

After consulting the rulebook, I am proposing another option that will benefit all parties - Trevor because he can (hopefully) get the 4 more saves he needs for 600, and the Brewers because they don't have to A) remove Axford from the closer's role, and B) make it look like they're not doing everything they can to win games by putting in a slumping pitcher just so he gets the milestone.  The rulebook states a pitcher is credited with the save in the following scenarios:

 

He is the finishing pitcher in a game won by his team;

He is not the winning pitcher;

He is credited with at least ⅓ of an inning pitched; and

He satisfies one of the following conditions:

1.  He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning

2.  He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, at bat or on deck

3.  He pitches for at least three innings

 

OK, so criterion #1 has thus far not worked out so great this season.  #2 would be a little obvious that the 'Crew is only trying to get him his stats if, for example, Trevor was put in with an 0-2 count on a batter with 2 outs in the 9th and the potential tying run waiting on deck.  So that brings us to criterion #3.

What if, assuming the Brewers are on the winning end of a few more laughers this year like the 20-0 drubbing of the Pirates a while back, Trevor is put in to pitch the 7th, 8th, and 9th?  Assuming the Brewers have a seemingly-insurmountable lead by the 5th or 6th inning, the starting pitcher would get his win, and Trevor would get the save despite the final margin of victory being much more than the traditional 3 runs or less.  So long as Trevor finishes the game which the Brewers win and pitches at least 3 innings, he could theoretically "save" a 15-3 game.  And if he gives up 10+ runs and loses the game for us?  Well... then I guess he's just a lost cause.

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also as a more serious post

I disagreed with your reasoning and rational, but I agreed with your premise of the post – traditional save situations are no longer a viable option for Hoffman as long as the team wishes to win.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 12, 2010 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

-My reaction thinking about Ken Macha, Doug Melvin, and Rick Peterson singing this to each other.

by BrewCrewBrian on Jun 11, 2010 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

I may be alone on this, but Trevor's been pitching well lately.

I thought he was throwing the ball well in his last 6 outings.

Even when he got lit up in Florida, those were some pretty weak bloopers. The hitters weren’t making good contact. I think he’ll get a spot save when Axford has the day off, and then he’ll be back in the closer’s spot until he blows it again.

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on Jun 11, 2010 11:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Yup, and the question is:

His results are better… does that mean his pitching is better, or he’s just been lucky?

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on Jun 11, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's dumb.

But probably.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jun 11, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I say if he's a closer, use him as a closer

Even bad teams run into save situations when their regular closer isn’t fresh, toss Hoffman out there instead. If he saves, he saves. If he chokes, he chokes. Who gives a damn, the season is a loss anyway, let him get his landmark and leave.

by nullacct on Jun 11, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

macha and melvin get a damn

every loss increases the probability that they get fired. thus, they won’t do anything that they KNOW to be idiotic. Yes, you’re right – if axford pitches 3 days consecutively, that would give an opportunity to hoffman. However, I don’t see our season improving to the level that axford would be over-used 4-20 times if he’s used in “closer” situations only.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 11, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

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