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Some things to read while identifying spring garlic.

In a game that inspired @notkenmacha to do the humpty dance on the counter at Perkins, the Brewers somehow found a way to overcome a 3-0 first inning deficit and hold on to beat the Twins 7-5 last night.

A big part of last night's victory was John Axford's six out save, the first Brewer save of two innings or more since Todd Coffey pitched the final 2.2 innings of a game against the Mets last April. Jack Moore of Disciples of Uecker is pleading with Ken Macha to use Axford in situations like that more often.

The Brewers probably could have used Zach Braddock last night, but announced after the game that he was unavailable: He left the team following a death in the family. He could be placed on the bereavement list if he won't be back in the next couple of days.

Speaking of players who have missed a few days, Jim Edmonds was back in the lineup last night, and went 3-for-4 with two doubles and scored twice. He'll likely soak up as much of Carlos Gomez's playing time as he can handle over the next couple of weeks.

Meanwhile, it was more of the same for Chris Narveson, who allowed three runs before the Brewers came to bat last night and has been lit up in the first inning this season. Tom Haudricourt noted that Narveson has a 12.27 ERA in the first inning of his 11 starts. He has a 4.01 ERA as a starter the rest of the time.

With John Axford having pitched two innings last night, the door could be open for Trevor Hoffman to pitch if there's a save situation tonight. Ken Macha raised the possibility of Hoffman's return while talking to reporters before the game last night. Axford was already warming in the seventh inning: If he'd been needed that early, Hoffman would have likely been the choice to pitch the ninth.

Other notes from the field:

Last night's game opened a key stretch for the Brewers, as they play 16 of 20 games at home and have a chance to make a pretty significant run. Jaymes Langrehr of The Brewers Bar looks at what it might mean if the Brewers could find a way to win 13 or 14 of these games.

He also lists Yovani Gallardo and Casey McGehee as candidates, but in the end Matthew Pouliot of Hardball Talk predicts the Brewers will have just two representatives on the All Star team: Ryan Braun and Corey Hart. Braun is still the NL's leading votegetter among outfielders and has expanded his lead to roughly 30,000 over Atlanta's Jason Heyward.

It's been a long six months for Chris Smith. Before spring training he was removed from the 40 man roster. He then pitched well enough to earn his way back on, only to find himself outrighted back to AAA after just three appearances. With that said, Tom Haudricourt reports Smith has accepted his assignment to the minors and rejoined the Sounds last night in Memphis.

Elsewhere in the minors:

  • Second round pick Jimmy Nelson was in attendance at Miller Park last night, and signed his contract. He'll report to Helena later this week, and told Tidesports.com he expects to "have a role out of the bullpen."
  • While Nelson comes in two others are on their way out: The Brewers have released pitchers A.J. Murray and Brian Bruney (FanShot), both of whom had been pitching in Nashville.
  • On the field, the Helena Brewers improved to 2-0 with their second walkoff victory in as many nights. Last night they scored four runs in the ninth on four walks, two HBP, an error, four wild pitches and one hit. 
  • Cody Hawn also hit his first two professional home runs for Helena last night, and Brett Lawrie went 2-for-3 for Huntsville with a double, a triple and two walks. Overall the affiliates went 4-1, and you can read more about it in today's Minor League Notes.
  • That wasn't yesterday's only good news for Lawrie: He also found out he'll be representing the Brewers on the "World" team in this year's Futures Game.
  • The Midwest League All Star game was last night: Scooter Gennett went 1-for-2, Khris Davis went 0-for-2, and Nick Bucci and Jake Odorizzi each retired the only batters they faced to represent the Timber Rattlers.
  • Brewer fourth round pick Hunter Morris wasn't with the Timber Rattler contingent at the All Star game: Instead, he used the break to head down to Milwaukee for last night's game.

Here's an interesting side note on Craig Counsell's greatness: Beyond the Box Score reports Counsell has the third least career plate appearances by a player that's been worth at least 100 runs in the field.

On power rankings: SBNation has the Brewers holding steady at 23.

If you're in Lake Geneva and looking for something to do this week, here you go: Jordan Schelling reports that Ryan Braun's Tavern and Grill is set to open tomorrow.

Around baseball:

Angels: Are expected to place shortstop Erick Aybar on the DL with a knee injury.
Athletics:
Designated second baseman/outfielder Eric Patterson for assignment.
Mariners: Signed pitcher Joe Nelson to a minor league deal.
Marlins: Released pitcher Hunter Jones.
Orioles: Designated pitcher Cla Meredith for assignment and acquired 1B/OF Jake Fox from the A's for pitcher Ross Wolf.
Phillies: Designated third baseman Greg Dobbs for assignment and placed C Carlos Ruiz on the DL with a concussion.
Rockies: Designated pitcher Juan Rincon for assignment.

I have sad news for Brewer fans hoping to get to watch the team tee off on Jeff Suppan next week. Suppan is scheduled to pitch on Friday, which would leave him on pace to pitch again on Wednesday, June 30 and miss the Brewers series.

History was made last night as Jamie Moyer allowed a solo home run to Russell Branyan. The homer was the 505th Moyer has allowed, tying him with Robin Roberts for the most all time. The Hall of Very Good has ten numbers you should know about the accomplishment.

If you've been watching the Brewers on FS Wisconsin you've probably heard BA and Rock discuss knuckleballers and the special mitt used to catch them. Big League Stew has a story on the mitt former Brewer farmhand R.A. Dickey carries with him.

Another day, another umpiring note. "Cowboy" Joe West, who made headlines earlier this season by complaining about the pace of game, delayed Pirates games on two consecutive days when his umpiring crew was late to the field.

Happy birthday today to 1970-72 Brewer manager Dave Bristol, who turns 77.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go get an air horn.

Drink up.

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by NoahJ on Jun 23, 2010 10:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Apparently, she's a Mom

Although there is no reference to a husband or ‘dad’, at least in just skimming.

So there’s hope for you single guys yet. As long as you’re looking to be a step-daddy.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jun 23, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

She's taken.

If you look during her weather bits, there is a ring on that finger. Also, did anyone see Mrs. Doug Davis last night? I would have no problem signing him to a long term deal.

by Mr. McGehee on Jun 23, 2010 1:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

"I would have no problem signing him to a long term deal"

Are you considering marrying Doug Davis?

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Jun 23, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meh...

I though McGehee’s wife was much hotter.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 23, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

She's taken.

If you look during her weather bits, there is a ring on that finger. Also, did anyone see Mrs. Doug Davis last night? I would have no problem signing him to a long term deal.

by Mr. McGehee on Jun 23, 2010 1:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Reply fail!

My phone has been garbage lately. No thank you on the marriage to DD. I think there needs to be a Brewer wives calander.

by Mr. McGehee on Jun 23, 2010 1:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Someone should match that up to a flirty Eliza app

It’d be perfect for killing productivity at any office you want to victimize

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by Lefti on Jun 23, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Although

She sort of looks like she’s had a nose job.

Weird.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jun 23, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also

I think at least 50% of this blog’s readership could beat her husband up. Too bad you couldn’t drag her off by the hair after.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jun 23, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

First inning ERA

From my dad:

I just read BC Ball. Kyle uses Tom H as a source that says Chris Narveson’s 1st inning ERA is 12.27 in 11 starts. Since you are only taking one inning you shouldn’t be multiplying the runs at all. Narveson’s 1st inning ERA is actually 1.36, (15 runs in 11 IP) which is easier to comprehend. Narveson gives 1 1/3 runs in the first inning. The 12.27 ERA is useless. Also when Tom H says Narvesons ERA is 4.01 after the first inning, I think you should be multiplying by 8 instead of 9.

Personally, I think all starters should have their ER multiplied by 6 (league average IP/GS) when calculating ERA. Narveson has a nine-inning ERA of 5.57 as a starter, but a six-inning ERA of 3.68. Since hardly any starters go nine innings anymore, runs allowed per six innings gives you a better average per start.

I've had it with this verkakte flippity-ship!

by TheJay on Jun 23, 2010 10:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Your Dad sounds awesome

I brought up a player’s OPS once to my Dad and he looked at me like I was speaking another language.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jun 23, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Two notes

1) While it’s probably technically more accurate to change the denominator for both inning-specific ERA and starts overall, I think ERA gives a fair impression of all three numbers in a scale that most people understand (below 3 good, 12.27 bad, etc.). And it’s not like the number is actually changing, just the number you’d divide it by.

2) Tom didn’t actually mention that Narveson has a 4.01 ERA after the first. I did the math to figure it out, so we’d have something to compare it to.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jun 23, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

"It’s not like the number is actually changing, just the number you’d divide it by."

Right, but the point is it’s a better depiction of what happens in those shorter periods. It doesn’t matter if Narveson gives up 5 runs every 9 innings because he doesn’t pitch that much at once.

I think most people know giving up over one run an inning is bad. Fans understood the batting average scale for player ability (.200 bad, .300 good, etc.) but that has shifted since OBP has come to prominence.

ERA won’t change and that’s fine. I just like the alternative calculations better in this instance.

I've had it with this verkakte flippity-ship!

by TheJay on Jun 23, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't this really just pointing out that ERA is a terrible measure of effectiveness for pitchers?

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jun 23, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe

But it tells you how many earned runs on average a pitcher allows in a given time period. It’s like RBI. You don’t want to use either to describe a player’s talent, but they do record what actually happened in their own narrow categories. Narveson averages 1.36 earned runs in each 1st inning he pitches. That doesn’t say anything about his overall pitching talent or even what he will do going forward, but it does say he hasn’t been very effective so far in preventing early runs.

I've had it with this verkakte flippity-ship!

by TheJay on Jun 23, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

As sage Casey McGhee says.....

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jun 23, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

We really should go by the number of Wins a pitcher gets.

Clearly that’s the most effective measure, because winning games is all that matters, right?

by Brew Angel on Jun 23, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gritty!

Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.

by theBrouhaha on Jun 23, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

for inning 1 vs the rest of the innings

it should be compared on the same scale, especially if using a TLA.

ERA is appropriate, it is less confusing. Otherwise one might (falsly) conclude that narv-dog does better in inning 1 than the rest.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2010 7:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

One might conclude he averages 12 runs each first inning

When looking at a 12.27 first-inning ERA.

I've had it with this verkakte flippity-ship!

by TheJay on Jun 24, 2010 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

right

but if you say “ERA” they might would.

In any case, I wouldn’t mind if you say “he averages 1.36 earned runs per inning in the first” and “0.45 per inning thereafter” – I just believe in consistency of measures when a comparison is made. ERA is runs per 9. In fact, I’d be favor of scrapping ERA for ERIA (earned runs per inning average) because as you mentioned complete game wins (or full 9 IPs in extra-innings) are rare. I guess as a team-wide metric ERA still makes sense, as it’s basically runs allowed per game (although that’s closer to RA, albeit many losses have less than 9 IP).

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pirates game

The first pitch was at 7:07 PM local time. The listed start time was 7:05 PM.

This isn’t news.

I've had it with this verkakte flippity-ship!

by TheJay on Jun 23, 2010 10:36 AM CDT reply actions  

It's really only news because it's Joe West, who's called the slow pace of games "pathetic."

Also, he’s the only late-arriving umpire I’ve heard about all year, and this is the third time I’ve heard it about him.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jun 23, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of the Pirates' 31 home games that have not been delayed by rain

18 of them started after the listed start time. West brought criticism on himself by opening his mouth, but complaining that the game started “late” is stupid.

I've had it with this verkakte flippity-ship!

by TheJay on Jun 23, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why am I the only one to have rec'd this?

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by NoahJ on Jun 23, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Some things transcend your petty labels. :)

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by NoahJ on Jun 23, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

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by tcyoung on Jun 23, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was awesome

"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck

by dux2bux on Jun 23, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

What was it like?

Should note I was pretty despondent at England looking like they topped the group so turned the TV off…

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Jun 23, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's worse than that

As Homer Bailey has rightly commented, soccer is communist as well…

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Jun 23, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

My guess is that you are the kind of person who hates pitchers duels too

Not enough flashing lights and pretty noises for your short attention span

This was the football version of a walk off home run, let those of us who enjoy “The Beautiful Game” enjoy the moment don’t be such a troll

"It's a joke. It's all a joke.

by WSB Chris on Jun 23, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

1-0 games

Is about as good as it gets.

This is a baseball blog. Sure other things are discussed here, but why werent the same things said about people who were underwhelmed by the Bucks appearance in the NBA finals?

Are you one of these soccer whiners who gets annoyed when the country doesnt embrace the tedious game when it flashes onto the radar every four years? No thanks. Watching grass grow is much more exciting.

by backtocali on Jun 23, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

To a point I'm with you on this.

I don’t enjoy soccer. I don’t think people who enjoy soccer are stupid, I just don’t personally enjoy it. I also don’t enjoy the NBA, which I think I’ve made clear.

The difference between the two is that I can make fun of the NBA without spending the rest of the day defending myself from people who can’t possibly fathom the fact that someone might not like soccer.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jun 23, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

My only appreciation for soccer

Is that it’s a crazy amount of running. Sprinting, running, jogging around yelling at your teammates, it takes a freaky amount of endurance to play the game even if you don’t have any skill. I’d like to see Albert Pujols or Mike Tyson or Pau Gasol run up and down the field for 45 minutes.

On second thought, no I wouldn’t. It’s boring a hell. I’d rather see Landon Donovan try to hit a curveball.

by nullacct on Jun 23, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

You forgot Shaq and Tiger Woods.

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by Yar Nivek on Jun 23, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll grant you that.

It’s an incredible feat of endurance. But so is marathon running, competitive bicycling and triathlons, and I don’t watch them either.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jun 23, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is a baseball blog and criticism of soccer here is fair game, so I’m just speaking of other situations (like my office today) — it is annoying that one can’t make a comment about a big win without someone jumping in and ripping on the sport or feeling the need to let the person who is excited know that they dislike it.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jun 23, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's soccer, and it's America.

What did you expect?

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on Jun 23, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least soccer has ~90 minutes of activity.

American Football has ~11 minutes. (WSJ)

And football fans call baseball boring. (Not that I think football is boring, I just think their argument has no legs to stand on.)

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by Yar Nivek on Jun 23, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tell me about it...

For some reason I’m absolutely crazy for preferring a sport that is either “just the same as rounders” or “a sport for girls” to soccer…

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Jun 23, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Funny how the amount of "toughness" in a sport

Exists in inverse proportion to player compensation.

by nullacct on Jun 23, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Until fairly recently

Soccer players in the UK had a reputation for being relatively unfit and lazy compared to most sportsmen. It’s only in the last few years in the UK that such bizarre notions as eating healthy food and not downing ridiculous amounts of alcohol have become the norm in UK soccer (although things have been different in continental Europe)…

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Jun 23, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Best thing about soccer is the WAGs.

"I agree but dont agree"

by juggernaut400 on Jun 23, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also...

Simpsons take on Soccer.

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by Yar Nivek on Jun 23, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

They cut it before the best bit...

“Ye call that a riot? Come on boys, let’s take ’em to school”…

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Jun 23, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here you go.

Video

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by Yar Nivek on Jun 23, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

This blog wasn't invented when the Bucks last made the finals.

As a matter of fact, neither was the internet.

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on Jun 23, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

There was an internet at the Pentagon somewhere back then. I misstyped, I meant playoffs, which happened this fall.

But this USA win isnt necessarily the equivalent of the NBA finals. Its kind of like making the sweet 16 in the NCAA basketball tournament I would say. Yeah, its a big accomplishment, but not like the Final 4 or even making the playoffs for an MLB team.

by backtocali on Jun 23, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

The big deal isn't the fact that the USA made it to the next round.

The big deal is the manner in which they did so.

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by Yar Nivek on Jun 23, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can you explain how these brackets work?

I sort of understand how points are awarded, but how do they determine which teams keep playing, how many rounds are there, etc etc.

by nullacct on Jun 23, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are eight groups.

Four teams in each group. The top two teams from each group advance, with the winner of Group A playing the runner-up from Group B, and the winner of Group B playing the runner-up from Group A, for example.

After tomorrow, it’s a single elimination tournament.

SRS BSNS

by Rubie Q on Jun 23, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are eight groups to start with that are randomly assigned (e.g. the United States is in Group C), and each team plays three games against the other teams in their group during the group stage. You get 3 points for a win, 1 point for a tie, 0 points for a loss. The two teams with the most points after the group stage advanced to the round of 16 (if there is a tie, the teams are ordered based on how many goals they scored). After that it’s just like a normal elimination bracket tournament.

So, in Group C, the United States (1-0-2) and England (1-0-2) advanced with 5 points each, while Slovenia (1-1-1) is eliminated with only 4 points and Algeria (0-2-1) with only 1 point.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jun 23, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Minor correction...

The winner in a case of ties in standings are based on goal differential (GS – GA), not just goals scored.

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by Yar Nivek on Jun 23, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

First tiebreaker is goal differential, THEN goals scored, right?

And England and the US both had a goal differential of +1, so we moved on to total goals scored.

SRS BSNS

by Rubie Q on Jun 23, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

That’s how it normally works

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Jun 23, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of other sports

I’m not really a fan of tennis at all, but if you think baseball games occasionally drag on longer than they should, there’s a match at Wimbledon at the moment that’s been going on for 8 hours and is currently at 46-45 in the final set…

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Jun 23, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

51-51 now.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jun 23, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

At current pace

They’ll have to stop to mow the grass before it’s over.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jun 23, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope, they're watching it die

those tennis shoes and sliding don’t do anything to enhance the greenery. :)

"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10

by MadtownTim on Jun 23, 2010 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plus...

It started yesterday, was postponed overnight, then they resumed today. Since it’s almost 9pm over there, they’re probably heading to a third day.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 23, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Just finished for the day at 59-59 with the match at 10 hours long. The last set has been longer than the previous longest entire tennis match. Both players closing in on 100 aces each. Isner could barely walk at the end of it. Absolutely crazy stuff…

"I hope your name is Rick"

by MrLeam on Jun 23, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

in 59-59 in GAMES???????

is the rest of the first round complete? are there plans to have the winner play a second match in the day this one completes? or do rounds 2 and 3 on short rest?

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 24, 2010 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its interesting to me that Macha's approval actually went up.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jun 23, 2010 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

The team is playing well

Just think how Fredi Gonzalez feels right now.

by backtocali on Jun 23, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's making good decisions

If not good, then agreeable. He’s playing Lucroy, he no longer has to throw Suppan. His starting pitching decisions tend to line up with the community’s expectations more these days, as well. We all really like Axford and Macha clearly does, as well.

I think a lot of it is the players he now has access to, but his managerial decision are much more in line with my expectations as well as the community’s expectations.

When was the last time, we collectively decided a relief pitching decision was particularly dumb? Or a starting pitcher where we all scratched our heads?

Personally, I feel Macha is doing the most he can with the resources he has now. I didn’t believe that to be the case before when he kept throwing Suppan and Hoffman, for instance.

by ecocd on Jun 23, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I guess you didn't read

this. It was also linked in this mug.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jun 23, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually agree with that

Hoffman has shown some effectiveness again and there’s no denying he has the mental fortitude to close a game anymore. I feel he’s capable of throwing a scoreless of 1-run inning with some regularity which is really all you need from a closer. There’s no reason not to throw him in the 9th inning right now.

Axford has shown effectiveness with runners on base, which means he would be available for even higher leverage situations than a closer typically faces.

by ecocd on Jun 23, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Generally speaking, the closer ends up pitching in the highest leverage situations

To any specific point in a game, its likely that the pitcher who is in at that point is pitching in a higher leverage situation than the previous inning. The 8th inning pitcher (particularly with a lead) has a higher LI than does the 7th inning pitcher. Should he preserve the lead, the 9th inning pitcher will likely have a higher LI than the 8th inning pitcher. Its pretty rare to have the 8th inning pitcher sit at a higher LI than the 9th inning pitcher.

But, I disagree. The only reason the Brewers will put Hoffman in as closer again is to milk the cash cow to 600 saves. He’s 42, and I have zero confidence in him getting the job done anymore. The ONLY way I would agree is if he performs admirably for…say…6-8 appearances, and then he is traded in order to get SOME value out of his contract. Since, obviously, the team will not be picking up his option, and they will not even receive Type B compensation for him when he walks due to 1) he will not rank 2) even if he somehow manages to, he will likely retire rather than sign with another team.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jun 23, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess

I hadn’t paid all that much attention to the mlbtr predictor lately, I just remember he dropped from 80-something to 68ish. That kind of fall is hard to reverse. He’s currently about 15 points from being unranked, so its possible he finishes as a type B.

I think the other points hold, though.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jun 23, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh

Make that around 12 points.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jun 23, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

garlic

I think Bilo’s photo was of garlic scapes rather than spring garlic. Both are delicious; one is twisty.

by wiarchaeologist on Jun 23, 2010 12:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Crap

I was really looking forward to seeing the Brewers tee off against Gazpacho

Get well soon Ueck

by molitorfan on Jun 23, 2010 6:44 PM CDT reply actions  

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