MACHAWATCH! June 3, 2010 Edition.
Or, as it's more popularly known, the "Something Peculiar Happened on the Way to the Funeral" edition.
One week after telling reporters that he wasn't about to change the way he does things, Brewers skipper Ken Macha made a couple of moves that we haven't seen before: first, employing the closest approximation of the Brewers' optimal batting order* that we've even seen; and, second, using his new closer, John "The Ax" Axford, for the final five outs of a game. Ol' Ken's showing signs of a pulse, so the nullacct ManagerometerTM holds steady this week:

* Of course, the "optimal batting order" should not be confused with the "Optimus batting order," which, as everyone knows, goes: 2B Bumblebee; SS Jazz; P Optimus Prime; 1B Grimlock; 3B Ironhide; C Sludge; RF Brawn; LF Sideswipe; CF Swoop.
After the jump: a closer look at the changes in the batting order and the multi-inning Ax-ing. And, of course, @notkenmacha.
This Week in An Old Dog Learns a New Trick: The Brewers' batting order for Sunday's matinee against the Mets -- featuring Ryan Braun hitting second, followed by Prince Fielder, Casey McGehee, and Corey Hart, with the pitcher hitting eighth and Alcides Escobar hitting ninth -- was like a bolt of lightning on a clear blue day: completely unexpected, and, at first glance, unlikely to happen again. And when Braun was back in the three-hole for Monday's game against the Marlins (after going hitless on Sunday), I figured we wouldn't see the near-optimal batting order for awhile, if ever again. At that point, Macha's Sunday line-up was akin to an eight year old accidentally composing the first line of a symphony while absent-mindedly banging away on a Casio.But, lo! Yesterday, the near-optimal line-up appeared once again, and I reconsidered my analogy. At the very least, I think we have to acknowledge that Sunday's line-up wasn't a simple-minded, haphazard attempt to shake the Brewers out of their malaise -- like when Ned Yost hit Braun fifth when the Brewers were going through a tough stretch a couple years back. (Giving your second-best hitter fewer at-bats to try to get your team out of a funk? Yep: that's a Yosting.)
And that's why Ken Macha gets credit this week: he's not shuffling the chairs just for the sake of shuffling the chairs. There's a rhyme, and there's a reason, and there's a manager using his noodle to try to fix this thing.
This Week in Desperate Times Call For Desperate Common-Sensical Measures: But the old dog wasn't done busting the mold quite yet: yesterday, with runners at first and third and one out in the eighth inning, K-Mach summoned newly-appointed closer John Axford, who got the final five outs of the Brewers' 7-4 victory.
In fairness, using his closer for more than three outs isn't all that out of the ordinary for Macha. Because we've been using a 48-year-old change-up specialist for the last year, we've been subjected to the all-too-common "closer pitches the ninth, only the ninth, and only for three outs" syndrome that's sweeping the league and freezing the brains of MLB managers everywhere. But when Macha was managing in Oakland, he often used his closer for more than one inning: Keith Foulke had ten (10) more-than-three-out saves in '03; Octavio Dotel had five in '04; Huston Street (who was injured late in the year) had six in '06, and so on. So, while this one doesn't qualify as "old dog, new trick," it was nice to see, nonetheless.
This Week in @notkenmacha: Macha's use the near-optimal batting order this week got me wondering: is Skip a disciple of The Book? Because Ken Macha's still not returning my telegrams, I asked @notkenmacha:
Dear Ruthie:
Thank you for your question, I hope your readers are benefiting from my effort to educate them.
With regards to "The Book", I hadn't read this publication until I got to Milwaukee. I am sure everyone will recall that I took over managing this team from a guy named Ned Yost. Nedgar was fired rather abruptly, and never really got the opportunity to clean out his office properly. When I arrived in Milwaukee, Ed Sedar greeted me saying, "The first thing we need to do, is clean out all of the NASCAR Hot Wheels and books out of Ned's office, so you have some room to put your things ... and by the way, someone ate your lunch". That lunch-thieving bastard was not lying about the toy cars and books, there were literally hundreds of Hot Wheels and dozens of books littering the office. It wasn't that Ned was a big reader, in fact the books were arranged in a manner to replicate the Daytona International Speedway, but for whatever reason, Ned decided to detour from the original track design, and added some ramps, bridges, and tunnels. Fortunately, my training as a civil engineer allowed me to declare the structure unsound for use, and condemned the race-track for immediate disassembling.
I told Sedar to dispose of the Hot Wheels, by putting them in Rick Peterson's lawn when the grass got high, and I threw all of the books into Dave Riske's locker, but one title caught my eye, and it was in fact "The Book" that you made reference to, Richie. I found the book fascinating, well-written and informative, and of course reinforced what I had known to be true for many years.
As a side note, not many people outside the MLB circles are aware that Ned Yost is, in fact, illiterate. It is not as if Ned is uneducated, however back in 2002, Ned Yost got locked in his office during the All-Star Break putting together a General Lee, Dukes of Hazzard model replica. Generally, Ned stuck to snap-together models, however, for whatever reason he decided to make the jump to glue-together models. Sadly, Ned's frontal lobe was no match for the poor ventilation and the 20 cups of coffee he drinks daily. Also I will add, that the main reason Mike Maddux left the Brewers, was because he got sick of Ned making him fill out the lineup card, suggesting that Maddux "didn't know how to spell Fielder, and he should prove it to the team".
Anyway, back to The Book.... Here are a few of my observations.
1.) "Counting stats like HR's are a poor way to evaluate a player's potential" -- I always knew that players who accumulated home-runs game after game, week after week, season after season, were entirely poppycock. My MLB playing career spanned two decades, and I only hit 1 HR. Do you think if hitting 40 HRs a season was truly valuable, I would have lasted as long as I did?
2.) "Batting average is a terrible stat to use when discussing players, as it can fluctuate from season to season" -- I tore up the league one season, batting a world-record high at .600, and then a few years later I struggled through an outlier season batting .200. Now, would I ever claim to be a .600 hitter? Of course not! My true talent level was probably at .450, however, I still dipped under that level a few times during the course of my career.
3.) "Beware of sample size" -- Obviously the authors dined at a local IHOP. I don't care if your pancakes are rooty or tooty, but they should be at least the size of a dinner-plate. What happened to large portions in this country? If I am paying $3.99 for my supper, I expect two scoops of creamed corn, a couple of slices of turkey-loaf, cranberry paste and some key-lime pie.
Robby, I hope this answers your concerns about why kids are so fat these days, and how raisins could make them more regular.
Baseballingly Yours,
Ken
P.S. Tony Curtis sucks.
51 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
I was ok with Ken,
but if he thinks Tony Curtis sucks, I am done with him.
Yosting lineup
My favorite example is hitting the utterly lost Corey Hart (1 for his last 21) leadoff in both games of the doubleheader in Philly right before he was fired. Kendall catching both games on the 85-90 degree day also ranks highly. IIRC, even Uecker was flummoxed by that.
Failure is just success rounded down.
Can someone please explain why they don't like Ken Macha!
Alright, so he adjusted the batting order a few times. Once I saw Braun hitting 2nd in fact. Whatever you have to do to get a spark on offense, even if that means giving your best hitter a chance for more at bats. Having the closer Axford pitch 5 outs. What else are you going to do when you have a pretty good feeling the other pitchers in your bullpen are gonna blow it? Are you just going to do what every one else does and just hope that the relievers actually do something useful?
The only complaint I have on Macha is Rickie Weeks should be batting 2nd and Carlos Gomez should be batting leadoff. That’s about it.
It is not Ken Macha’s fault if he doesn’t have the talent to work with! It’s not his fault we have this Doug Melvin guy bringing in donkeys such as Jeff Suppan, Braden Looper, and Doug Davis….not to mention the big deals they got too. Sure, the trade for Gomez was good and the signing of Randy Wolf was good, the rest…..ehhhh, not so much.
How about that recent game against Florida? Remember when our Catcher (forget his name) ran towards 3rd when it was a ground ball to the SS? It was only 1 out, why would he run to 3rd for the automatic out? Is it Macha’s fault when players make stupid decisions on the field, including poor baserunning? Only if the same players are repeating the mistakes. That has not been the case though, it has been a variety of players.
Ken Macha is a proven winner. He did it in Oakland, and if we give him a fair chance, he will do it in Milwaukee. Doug Melvin is the one to be dissapointed with, not Ken Macha. I like Macha, and I will continue to support him. At least he was aggressive with out players….and I mean stealing! That was something Ned Yost NEVER did.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Milwaukee has talent
Or did you not notice Braun and Fielder playing better than people from higher-paid teams last year? It’s up to the managers and trainers to bring talent out in players. As one of the lead people with the team, Macha has a large role to play in their performance and, ultimately, is one of the people to blame for a lack of good games. Unfortunately, if he can’t figure out what works for players, there’s the potential that he’ll lose his job come the end of the season.
"Also, guys." - Mykenk
Alright, I should have rephrased that statement, because every team has talent
What kind of talent do we have for starting pitchers? How about relievers? Yovani Gollardo…..
We are not going to get better if we keep going through managers like you and i recycle soda cans!
Can we win? Yes, I do believe that we can win with the talent on our roster. Are we a playoff team? No, I did not think we had a roster capable of carrying us to the playoffs.
We came into this season with 2 good pitchers in Gollardo and Wolf, who is now struggling. After that, who do we have? Pitchers win championships, not the #3 &4 batter in the lineup.
While pitching depth is an issue, our lineup is solid. We should be scoring more points, and I do recognize that problem. The problem is clutch hitting, it has been a Brewer problem for the last several years. The biggest thing though, is that Macha has not been around that long. Ned Yost had the same team and couldn’t do anything, actually, his team may have been better with starting pitchers. I firmly believe that we can do it, but we just can’t jump the gun. I don’t believe that Macha is the problem.
If we fire Macha, then we start all over again. When we lose with him, we fire him after 1 or 2 seasons. Good franchises don’t operate like that. Let the manager get his team established. Let the manager build the chemistry. Again, he is a proven winner and this is only his 2nd season in Milwaukee.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
"he is a proven winner"
He took over a team that won 100 games two years in a row and managed to win 92 games with them. Yay?
When did the Brewers win 100 games... let alone two years in a row?
Plus, you can’t exactly pin the team’s downward spiral solely on Macha… he didn’t have the benefit of having Sabathia on the roster.
Chemistry?
The team has had plenty of chemistry… if anything, they aren’t connecting to the manager very well.
I'll take a shot at an explanation
1) His relationship with the players is horrible. This is a trend that started in Oakland and has continued to Milwaukee. It’s clear, even in the limited reports that the public has gotten, that he doesn’t actively seek out players to speak with them about whatever may be going on with the players. That’s his job.
2) His lack of passion. Yost can be faulted for a lot of things, but one thing you can’t say about him is that he didn’t care about his team. He defended them to a fault. He was too much of a player’s manager and didn’t call anyone out even for the biggest mistakes. I don’t need a manager to get thrown out every other game, however when a situation calls for it and your team needs a spark, getting thrown out pays dividends sometimes (see: Cox, Bobby).
3) His complete lack of trust in his players on the bases. You made the statement that Yost never had his players run and Macha is letting them. Really? How many steal attempts does Escobar have? 2. How many for Gomez and/or Weeks? 8/3. So, in other words, our fastest guys on the team have 2 more attempts at steals, than Braun has steals. That’s not shining the green light bright.
Those are my 3 main points. I could do deeper, but it gets more emotional than logical. The fact is, the guy is a dead fish who seemingly makes no effort to manage his players. Both as people and players.
"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10
by MadtownTim on Jun 4, 2010 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You get a rec
And I would like to add one thing.
The only thing that Macha has passion for is that he is a good manager. The “Poppycock” heard round the world stemed from a reporter implying that he was a bad manager.
by BrewCrewBrian on Jun 4, 2010 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions
If not Macha, then who?
I’m not convinced that Randolph or Sveum could take over for Macha, considering that they aren’t distinguishing themselves their current roles. Our hitting is inconsistent and our baserunning is bordering on comedic. If a change is going to be made I think clearing house is probably best. Peterson isn’t exactly working miracles with the pitching staff either.
So if you’re going to fire a manager, you fire him, and after the buzz fades you’re faced with the necessity of replacing him. Sure, we like the romantic idea of having C.C. step in as player-manager, but being realistic it isn’t going to happen. Think about our owner, and our General Manager. They want credibility and confidence that their change will be an improvement. Removing Macha wouldn’t be curing them of a public problem; no matter how bad Macha is as a manager he isn’t exactly an embarrassment to the community. He’s no Billy Martin or Phil Wellman. He mumbles his postgame reports and his idea of confrontation is to give someone the silent treatment.
So who do you replace him with? I challenge this community to come up with an actual handful of suggestions of people that could step in and replace Macha. Give us a person who could come in and add value to the club rather than just handing in the lineup card.
Maybe you’ve got someone better, but I’ll start us out: Art Howe. He knows how to win, and he’s a guy players like to play for.
If I had to make a guess, I'm guessing the
“only slightly less active than Macha” comment was inferring that very point. :)
"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10
I think we'll find out who soon enough...
Macha’s contact is up after this season (although there is a club option).
We might hear in October that the option was picked up in May
Like Yost’s 2009 option.
Failure is just success rounded down.
Sparky is about 75 years old
And Houk retired from managing before Gallardo was born. I get the impression that we’re not very serious about finding a replacement just yet.
My effort
Art Howe is a fine choice, but I don’t know how well he would do in the environment that is Milwaukee right now. In his experience with veteran teams (which Milwaukee is becoming due to DM’s effort) he hasn’t done well. One might also argue, that under ineffective GMs, he hasn’t done well either (see: Minaya, Omar).
The problem we face right now is that the Brewers don’t know if they’re transitioning to a re-building team or if they’re trying to work toward the playoffs. We have an owner who wants to win now and we have a GM that is trying to do that, but has big time salary limitations on him to reach that goal. Unfortunately, the money has been spent poorly over the last 4-5 years and he’s doubly hamstrung. I honestly don’t know any manager that could effectively manage the expectations and the realities that currently exist in Milwaukee.
I think at this point, the Brewers do need to punt a bit right now. The sentiment that Fielder is gone at some point over the next 1.5 years is probably spot on. I don’t want to see him leave, but tying up 20-25% of your team’s salary in one player isn’t realistic if you’re going to try and build around him in a smallish market. And I think we all know that Boras isn’t going to let Prince sign for Braun/Gallardo money at this point.
The Brewers, as we all know, have a bad mix of pitching right now. Aging veterans whose best days are behind them and a mix of middle-of-the-road 20-somethings who have had very little in the way of consistency in coaching. Gallardo is the one exception to situation in that he seems to have his stuff together so that minor tweaks here and there aren’t effecting him as much as say Manny Parra. I think Narveson, as a control pitcher will be fine, if he gets a chance to build some confidence.
Positionally, I don’t think we have as many issues. The obvious void in the short-term is first base. When Fielder gets dealt, we don’t have a replacement. As a corner infield position, it’s a power position. I don’t think Gamel fits that mold, nor do I think he’ll progress even as far as Fielder has at the position defensively. Being a former first baseman, the lack of plays made at first drive me bonkers. It’s become a place to dump defensively inept players who can hit home runs (see: Pujols, Albert).
If Macha does get fired this year, I anticipate the interim position will go to Willie Randolph. I think he’s already gotten the respect that Macha is lacking from the players and I think that they will play for him. This would be his job interview. Unfortunately, DM would probably make that move too late in the season (see: Sveum, Dale).
I would however, like someone to pick Leo Mazzone out of moth balls and give him a job again.
"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10
Mazzone is a good choice
Considering the work that needs to be done with the pitching staff. I’d prefer to hire him strictly as a pitching coach though, there’s enough work there to do, and hire a manager who can create a winning atmosphere.
after I hit enter, I realized I should have mentioned as pitching coach.
My cousin was catcher for the Braves in the early 90s and after speaking with him several times about the team, he absolutely loved Leo. I’ve heard Leo on XM several times over the last year or so and he’s still as engaged and knowledgeable as ever. But somehow, is still without work.
"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10
Pujols
“Defensively inept”? He’s still better than Fielder and even Ryan Howard.
Heck, he even won the Gold Glove once.
and we know how much fielding has to do with gold gloves
Pujols was a 3rd baseman…then outfield…After he couldn’t make it in the field, he was moved to first base where “fielding inept players who can hit home runs” get dumped.
"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10
Cecil Cooper
Discuss…
(He knows the players, and wasn’t given much of a chance in Houston)
by BrewCrewBrian on Jun 4, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Coop certianly did a much better job with the Astros
Than Brad Mills is doing, although I’m naturally skeptical of ex-Brewers as coaches.
Ugh no
If you watched the games closely you would have seen many of the same bad decisions that Yost made.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
watching the Astros closely
is among the forms of torture forbidden by the Geneva Convention
I heard he had troubles filling out a lineup card though
Anyone would have trouble filling out a lineup card with that team...
Lets see Berkman 3rd, Lee 4th, Bourn 1st. uhhhhhhhhh…
But wasnt he the one that screwed one up pretty badly?
by BrewCrewBrian on Jun 7, 2010 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Spitballing here
Don Money
Tim Wallach (Manager at AAA ABQ Isotopes, 2009 PCL Manager of the Year, 2009 BBA Best Manager Prospect)
"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10
woud love an edit function
Randy Ready (yeah, I know, Brewer ties, however also a good manager in the minors)
"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10
Frank Kremblas
Back when he was still managing the Sounds, I thought for sure that he was going to be Yost’s successor, but when DM told him he didn’t have a shot at being manager, they cut him free.
Still don’t understand why they never considered giving him a shot.
I had no idea who this was
And then I looked him up – he’s got an awesome track record. What’s Doug’s issue with him?
I forget where I read it, but it had to do with Trey Hillman
Basically the idea was he was doomed to fail because he had never managed or played or coached in the big leagues. Now that he has done so, he should be better the next time around.
Perhaps the same sort of philosophy reigned in the Brewers front office with regard to Kremblas. Maybe they didn’t want to name him manager because of his lack of big-league experience. Maybe they didn’t want to make him a major league coach because he hadn’t worked with any of the other coaches and/or they wanted the new manager to have the option of bringing at least one of his own guys on board.
I don’t know why they would let him go from AAA, if I recall correctly he was surprised by that. But if he was blocked in Milwaukee, I’m sure it was not totally unwelcome.
Failure is just success rounded down.
Ah
A Posnanski article, of course: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/joe_posnanski/05/13/hillman.fired/index.html
Failure is just success rounded down.
The funny thing about Hillman
is last year, he was on XM as a regular contributor (I wanna say it was Friday’s before their night games). He was awesome! Spoke well, was knowledgeable and handled the “press” well, something that’s been lacking in Milwaukee for quite a while.
I remember Kremblas being surprised by the move. I’m surprised that he’s still looking for work, given his experience, but without all of the information, it’s difficult to place blame.
Oh, and if you ever get a chance, listen to an interview with ChiSox pitching coach Don Cooper. He shoots from the hip and tells it like it is. Very entertaining.
"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10
I see that he's now the manager for the Indianapolis Indians, the Pirates' AAA affiliate
"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10
Thanks McCalvy
and Wikipedia for the link: Brewers dismiss Triple-A manager
"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10

by 



























