Heether's Gone. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Heether was apparently claimed by the A's.
almost 2 years ago
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Gamel to Nashville in his place.
gah
He can go take a bunch of walks with Gabe. I dislike losing a useful player.
Meanwhile, Luis Crus and Jeff Suppan are going out to get a beer together in celebration.
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Cruz, even.
Number of TW-S's uttered on BCB since May 9, 2010: 55
Acceptable TW-S's uttered on BCB in that time frame: 1
His career high OBP is .314, playing for AA-AAA in 2008 for Pittsburgh.
His career high OPS so far is this year at .730.
Heether on the other hand last year OPS’d .902 with an OBP of .343.
Number of TW-S's uttered on BCB since May 9, 2010: 55
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You're sarcastic and contrary.
Which is probably why I like you, at least when you’re not doing it to me.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 3, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay, but when did he hit waivers?
I must have missed that notice.
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They don't typically announce that a player has been put on waivers until he is either claimed or passes through them.
Am I correct?
http://www.mlbsoup.com
According to McCalvy
He didn’;t know about it till he found out he was claimed.
Probably tried to sneak him through.
Putting a player on waivers is almost always done without any publicity.
Oftentimes players are put on waivers just to test the waters, and teams may choose to withdraw the player if another team tries to claim him. Such events almost always go on without public awareness.
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From the way they publicized it, I believe they have passed up the opportunity to withdraw him.
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This is False.
Outright Waivers are irrevocable.
The Brewers did not have an opportunity to withdraw Heether from the waivers.
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by Fatter than Joey on Jun 4, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
That's with post-trade deadline major league waivers.
IIRC waiving a player to get him off the 40-man roster (which I assume is what happened with Heether) is irrevocable.
Fire Doug Melvin.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Jun 3, 2010 3:30 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
Well, I guess that will be the 40 man spot for Gamel
Is there any way that Suppan survives when Riske comes off the 60 day? I can’t imagine another way to make room that isn’t completely idiotic.
Probably.
His contract gave him an out if he wasn’t added to the MLB roster by June. I can’t imagine there’s a loophole that would allow the team to put him on the MLB roster, then immediately send him back down.
Actually
I just checked… he doesn’t have any options left, which means that he’d have to clear waivers.
Also assume he would be able to refuse the assignment and become a FA
by Jeo on Jun 3, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know about that
He only has a little over 3 years of MLB experience, so he cannot refuse an assignment (needs at least 5 years).
If he has been outrighted to the minors before he could refuse the assignment
But I don’t know if he has been or not. It looks like the Rangers just released him after 2008.
Failure is just success rounded down.
Can someone help me on this?
1. Why did the Brewers need to put Heether on waivers? Who did they need to make room for on the 40-man roster? ASAIK, Gamel is still on the 60-day DL.
2. Why put Heether on waivers when Zaun is still not close to coming back? Why not put Zaun on the 60-day DL retroactive to when he got injured?
Why keep a guy if you don't have a role for him?
I don’t know how minor league waivers worked, but maybe they tried and failed to send him to AA?
Shruggity.
This may very well be a case where Heether felt like he was never going to get a shot, and asked for the opportunity to get a fresh start somewhere else.
If that’s the case, kudos to the organization for giving him that shot.
If that’s not the case, then DFA’ing Heether, who could be useful and under organizational control for six years, and keeping Suppan is a fireworthy offense.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
Yup
Was just going to write that they might be doing him a favor by putting him in a better situation or place where he could reach the majors easier than in Milwaukee.
Get a ife broseph
keeping Suppan is a fireworthy offense by itself
I just don’t think letting Heether go is that big of a deal
Speaking of DFA'ing and Bad Melvin
I’m sure this has been covered elsewhere, but the Capuano/Vargas timing didn’t make sense at all. To DFA Vargas to bring someone up and then not use them for nearly a week leaves them a man down in the bullpen.
So either they were worried Capuano would opt out if they told him they were calling him up to start in 5 days, or Melvin made the move without knowing how or when Capuano would get used.
by The Left Button on Jun 3, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
You forgot one other option...
Vargas has been so bad this season that letting him go wouldn’t hurt the team.
As far as Zaun goes, he's trying to rehab for 3-4 weeks before deciding to go on the DL.
They have to wait until hte rehab is over before moving him to the 60-day.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
Is there any roster clause
That says that if “during a rehab assisignment, a player become eligible for social security” then all roster problems are immediately solved?
When are Canadians eligible for Social Security?
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I guess
But even if he can come back this season (no surgery), wouldn’t he still probably head down for a rehab assignment? By the time all is said and done… it would probably be 60-days.
Plus, it’s not like the team is hurting for him behind the plate.
I don't know that they have to wait until he opts for surgery
I think keeping him on the 15-day DL is a way of supporting his attempt to rehab. Moving him to the 60-day DL before he’s done attempting to rehab would be like saying “Good luck, oh and here’s the scalpel your surgeon will need.”
Failure is just success rounded down.
Except
Let’s say his rehab goes well and he ends up being able to avoid surgery and continue playing. I’m guessing that the soonest he’d be back (after a minor league rehab stint) would be mid-July… almost 60 days after he went onto the 15-day DL.
Somewhere roguejim is superpissed.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 3, 2010 4:29 PM CDT reply actions
Can you blame him?
From what I’ve heard, tattoo removal is expensive and painful.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Jun 3, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I am indeed superpissed
Maybe if he were worse defensively, we would have found room for him.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Or if he were an overpaid junkballer masquerading as starting pitcher "depth".
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 3, 2010 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
A's fan here, any info on Heether?
Most likely a depth guy in AAA?
He hit well in AA/AAA the last 2 seasons, not so much before that. He seems to have versatilty which is helpful
Depending on who you ask...
His upside is a fine AAA player, maybe a AAAA player, or Jesus.
by BrewCrewBrian on Jun 3, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Truth is somewhere in the middle.
Heether can play multiple positions (anywhere in the infield but short, maybe short in a pinch, and either outfield corner). He likely hit way over his head last season (.900+ OPS in AAA), but he’s probably either a decent utility infielder or a stopgap that can fill in at multiple spots in a pinch.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
Yup
Your best reasonable hope is a really useful 25th-man type.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jun 3, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I am surprised he was claimed
I didn’t think there were many open roster spots for guys like him at this point of the season.
If nothing else, this should help the Sounds chase Portland for worst offense in the PCL.
Failure is just success rounded down.
Oh Noes!
Now what will I do with the song about Heether written to the tune of Veruca Salt’s Seether.
This smells
like GM incompetence to me. Heether’s the kind of guy you try and keep around, he showed some promise and is young and cheap enough to at the very least be a part of a successful AAA team. Why not try and get something in return for him? It’s not like we’ve got enough organizational-soldier-type arms. I hope it’s like what has been mentioned and it’s in Heether’s best interests. But I’m skeptical. Good luck Adam!
oh really?
I live in Richmond VA. Ask the braves what happens to a AAA team that’s unsuccessful. Saving a spot on the 40-man is valuable, sure, but dumping good organizational soldiers for nothing aint smart. Just sayin, there were better ways to free up a spot is all..
Honestly, that sounded like more of a problem for Richmond than Atlanta
Didn’t the Braves AAA team move just down the road from the big club?
Failure is just success rounded down.
Random thought to file in the "Not going to happen" folder
Wouldn’t Madison make a very convenient spot for a new Brewers AAA team?
My goodness.
by BrewHaHeather on Jun 4, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't
But I’d like to spend more.
My goodness.
by BrewHaHeather on Jun 4, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
The Muskies old stadium still stands.
It would need some rehab, but it’s right on East Wash, it’s gorgeous (from a classic stand point) and I would gladly head over there for games. :)
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No. The Muskies played at Warner Park
Same as the Mallards.
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by Fatter than Joey on Jun 7, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Kick the Mallards out
and renovate that stadium.
My goodness.
by BrewHaHeather on Jun 4, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
What's the capacity of that park?
I believe most PCL parks seat around 10,000. They could revamp the stadium, but what about parking, etc. I’m not familiar with that area so I don’t know how feasible all that is. There might be trouble moving a team without a brand new stadium anyway.
Failure is just success rounded down.
~7500
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by Fatter than Joey on Jun 7, 2010 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
The Mallards are wildly successful.
they aren’t going anywhere — I doubt Madison would support a AAA team.
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by Fatter than Joey on Jun 7, 2010 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
They did. Besides, the Braves' AAA club is owned by the franchise, so it was their own decision to move it.
As for Madison, my understanding is that nobody’s in any hurry to give pro baseball another try after the Northern League’s Black Wolf exited the town drawing barely over a 1,000 per game at the end. The fact that the Northwoods League franchise is actually working is being treated as a near-miracle by anyone who’s following the business side of minor league ball as far as I know.
I'm not saying that it was the best way to get a roster spot
But the goal of the organization is to win at the MLB level. Obviously if you have a lot of talent, you’re winning at the lower levels also. The Brewers did this because they think it makes (or will make) them stronger as an organization. Maybe it’s true, maybe it’s not. I for one, would rather have Gamel on the 40 man than Heether.
You can go on and on about Suppan, but they’re not cutting him, and they’re not cutting Hoffman, as much as everyone wants them to. So, being realistic, Heether had to go. Sucks. Sucked for Stern too.
Shruggity.
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