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If you missed it live, check out the MLB.com highlights of last night's walkoff victory. Casey McGehee, whose two-run single ended the game, is back in the NL lead with 45 RBI.

McGehee may get most of the credit for last night's ninth inning rally, but the door was opened by Rickie Weeks, who was hit by a pitch for the 70th time in his career (and the third time by Carlos Marmol) to lead off the inning, and stole second base so the Cubs would have a base open to intentionally walk the eventual game-winning run.

Beating the Cubs is always great, but the way it happened last night made it extra special. Howie Magner noted what I've seen and heard several others say: It was great to see the team showing some signs of life after the win.

Other notes from the field:

Last night was David Riske's first night back in the bullpen, as he was activated off the 60-day DL. This week's BCB Tracking Poll shows that 30% of voters have already given up on him, and felt he should have been designated for assignment instead. Ouch. LaTroy Hawkins was moved to the 60-day DL to make room, although the official diagnosis of his condition is still only "shoulder fatigue." (FanShot)

Speaking of unpopular pitchers, Mark Attanasio chatted with reporters last night and reiterated his stance that Jeff Suppan wasn't kept around because of his contract.

The Brewers likely won't see Aramis Ramirez this week: Ramirez sat out for the second straight game last night and is expected to be placed on the DL today with a sore left hand. Ramirez is hitting just .168/.232/.285 in his first 47 games this season.

Casey McGehee might have had a great night on the field last night, but his All Star vote totals don't reflect it: McGehee is now fourth in the balloting at third base behind Placido Polanco, David Wright and Chipper Jones. Ryan Braun still leads all NL outfielders, but Jason Heyward is gaining on him.

In the minors:

  • Angel Salome went 2-for-6 with a pair of walks, a double and a home run for Brevard County as they swept a doubleheader yesterday. The big news from his day, though, is that he played right field in the second game, his first appearance in the outfield since 2004 in the Arizona League. You can read about that and more in today's Minor League Notes.
  • If you're looking for something to do today, Wisconsin is playing a doubleheader to make up last night's rainout. Nick Bucci and Maverick Lasker are scheduled to pitch. Pregame starts at 11:50, and Brewerfan.net's Link Report has the link for audio.
  • Bucci, Khris Davis, Scooter Gennett and Jake Odorizzi will represent the Timber Rattlers in the Midwest League All Star Game. Davis and Gennett will start the game, becoming the first All Star Game starters for the T-Rats since they became a Brewer affiliate, and the first pair of T-Rats to start the game since 2002.

The MLB Draft continued yesterday with rounds 2-30. Jordan Schelling and Brewerfan.net both have excellent coverage, with brief bios of every pick. In the second round the Brewers selected Alabama RHP Jimmy Nelson, who might be the victim of the worst scouting comparison in history, courtesy of MLB.com:

Physical Description: Nelson is big and physical, a bigger version of Jeff Suppan.

I think that single line ruined a fair number of people's days, especially since the Brewers had finally cut ties with Suppan less than 24 hours earlier. But here's the thing: Nelson really doesn't have much of anything in common with Suppan. He throws much harder (in the 91-94 range), and he's four inches taller (6'6" to Suppan's 6'2"). If you're really looking for someone to compare him to, then Eric Arnett (6'5", 230) might be a better comp.

At The Official Site, Jordan Schelling has stories about Nelson, third round pick Tyler Thornburg and fourth round pick Hunter Morris.

Here's some more draft stuff:

All told, the Brewers drafted 19 pitchers with their first 30 selections. They're not the only team with a heavy focus on pitching, though: Where Have You Gone, Andy Van Slyke? noted that the Pirates drafted pitchers with nine of their first ten picks.

On power rankings:

Around baseball:

Diamondbacks: Designated pitcher Saul Rivera for assignment.
Indians: Designated infielder Mark Grudzielanek for assignment.
Nationals: Designated catcher Jamie Burke for assignment.
Pirates: Designated pitcher Jack Taschner for assignment.
Royals: Pitcher Brad Thompson cleared waivers and elected to become a free agent.
Twins: Placed second baseman Orlando Hudson on the DL with a sore wrist.

If you've read anything baseball related in the last 24 hours, you probably heard about Stephen Strasburg's debut last night. You might have missed one take on it, though, which is why Walter Johnson would like a word.

Congratulations to former Brewer farmhand Freddy Parejo, who hit for the cycle in the California League last night. Parejo is playing in the Astros organization this season.

Happy birthday today to:

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need a little down time.

Drink up.

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Physical Description: Nelson is big and physical, a bigger version of Jeff Suppan.

Given the circumstances, yeah, not smart to say. But if it’s true, it’s a good thing, right?

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jun 9, 2010 10:27 AM CDT reply actions  

But what does it mean?

As I understand it, this is a description of his build, not of his repertoire of pitches. So. Um. Yeah. Curious.

SRS BSNS

by Rubie Q on Jun 9, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm wondering.

Is this like the NBA Draft, when a white kid can only be compared to Larry Bird or Kevin McHale or Keith Van Horn?

Why didn’t they say he’s a bigger version of Gallardo, who’s 6’2", 220?

SRS BSNS

by Rubie Q on Jun 9, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

holy shit

I match the physical description of John Stockton (I’m assuming in his last year of play).

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 9, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe another caveat to the description

a name the average Brewers fan would recognize.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 9, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, I think mlb.com reports are tailored to a more general audience

But your point still holds.

Failure is just success rounded down.

by TheJay on Jun 9, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Make that successfully cloned.

Otherwise he’d:

1)Have a third arm; or

2)look just like he does, only be evil. (as symbolized by a black goatee).

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 9, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

How can a pitcher be "physical"?

I think that’s the real question here.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Jun 9, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

See Zambrano

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 9, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

If there's a throw to the plate

Nelson’s known to push the catcher out of the way and block the dish himself.

SRS BSNS

by Rubie Q on Jun 9, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's something i want to know too.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jun 9, 2010 3:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Walter Johnson

I recall reading somewhere he was mild-mannered and almost never swore. Probably would make that link less amusing though.

Failure is just success rounded down.

by TheJay on Jun 9, 2010 10:27 AM CDT reply actions  

um... sorry boss
“Whenever we end up separating with a player I’m fond of, or even a player I’m not fond of, I usually like to call and say thank you,” Attanasio said. "I thanked him for how hard he worked. Doug [Melvin, Milwaukee’s general manager] said this, and it’s true, that without Jeff going 5-0 [in September 2008] we don’t make the playoffs.

Um… Soup went 5-0 in August. Going into September the Crew was 5 1/2 games behind the Cubs with the second-best record in the NL. We almost fell out of playoff contention because Soup went 0-3 in 5 starts with an 8.44 ERA. The two pitchers you let go – Sheets and Sabathia – were the only starters to win in September.

by nullacct on Jun 9, 2010 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

brackets indicate the person writing the article/editor

so, not Mark A’s fault if the month is wrong.

He probably said “5-0 in the playoff push” or something like that. Or just “5-0”

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 9, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Letting go Sabathia wasn't really his fault

I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful

by Michael M on Jun 9, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right

He wasn’t so much “let go” as he left for more money and the bright lights of NY.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 9, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not picking on him

Just a little surprised at the selective memory. Anything Soup did in August was easily cancelled out by his September choke job.

by nullacct on Jun 9, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's some impressive ire

I commend you

Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jun 9, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, in 2008...

Sheets was 5-0 in April.
Parra was 5-0 in June.
Sabathia was 9-0 in July-August.
Bush was 4-0 in August.
Suppan was completely worthless for two years, but is remembered fondly.

by nullacct on Jun 9, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did you really expect Mark to say anything different or do you just have high expectations for him?

I mean with the position he’s in he really can’t PR wise say anything different. I’d love for a person to be completely honest with their emotions in public but that doesn’t usually happen. And when it does, see Ozzie Guillen, he too becomes ridiculed for being too loud.

I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful

by Michael M on Jun 9, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, I suppose you're right

The owner can’t say “what the hell have you done for me lately” or “I could have bought a small tech company for the money I flushed on your contract” unless they’re Stienbrenner. We have a good owner, he means well, he wants to win. And Soup sucked, but he wasn’t satan.

by nullacct on Jun 9, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or he could be like Al Davis and sue Suppan

I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful

by Michael M on Jun 9, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Al Davis = Satan

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 9, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

absolutely rec'd

Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.

by theBrouhaha on Jun 9, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm still amazed

By the Legend that was CC’s performance with the Crew. It’s just mind-boggling to think that he basically performed better than any time in his career during that time-frame. I just looked at the stats again and he had a 255 ERA+ in the 17 games he started for us.

BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.

by MadJimiBrewha on Jun 9, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's been in the AL the rest of his time. I'm sure that at least helped.

Not to take away from what he did, as that was incredible.

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on Jun 9, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

What do you expect him to say?

Thank you Jeff, for almost blowing it.

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on Jun 9, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

DYK

Ozzie Guillen’s sons are named:

Ozzie Jr.
Ozney
Oney

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on Jun 9, 2010 11:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Si Senor

He’s been to high A and AA a couple of times (never been to Wisconsin before). He started last year at Brevard County where he pitched extremely well, and was promoted to Huntsville where he struggled a bit.

My guess is that they want him to get his feet back on the ground before challenging him too much.

BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.

by MadJimiBrewha on Jun 9, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it just me

Or does it seem like he has been around forever. He is only 22 (23 in Sept), still a lot of time have a huge impact on the Crew if he can keep his shirt straight.

Anyone familiar with the Minor League free agency rules, i.e. when would he become a FA if he doesn’t make it to the majors?

BCB, the preferred above replacement level sarcasm supplier.

by MadJimiBrewha on Jun 9, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he is not on the 40-man roster after six years in the minors he can elect minor league free agency

If he is not on the 40-man roster after four or five years (I forget offhand), another team could take him in the Rule 5 draft

Failure is just success rounded down.

by TheJay on Jun 9, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we're all just hoping this actually matters

I don’t know how many players make it to their 100-game suspension, but one has wonder if he can stay sober for the years it will take to make it to the major leagues (at which point, he’s curiously allowed to light up as much as his little heart desires). I’m not entirely optimistic.

by ecocd on Jun 9, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

well you have to think that he'll at least end up in AA this year

start 2011 in AAA and then who knows, maybe he’ll end up on the ML roster some time that year

by warwick5s on Jun 9, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jeffress has great stuff

but he has never put it together and been great like he should be even in the lower levels. It seems like his upside at this point is a six inning guy, I wonder if they are going to start him out with the bullpen in mind.

by McCzen on Jun 9, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right again

You sir are a genius not no moran

by McCzen on Jun 9, 2010 6:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Grammatical question

Assuming you were addressing a group of 3 people or more, would the correct phrase be

1) “ain’t no thangs chickenswing”
2) “ain’t no thangs chickenwings”
3) “ain’t no thang chickenswing” or
4) “ain’t no thang chickenwings”?

I think I’d have to go with the 3rd.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 9, 2010 2:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Isn't the correct phrase...

Ain’t no thing but a chicken wing?

Anyway, I’d vote for #4.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 9, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes it is

Which actually makes the question invalid.

But I’d go a hypothetical 4.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jun 9, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd go with #4 too

Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.

by theBrouhaha on Jun 9, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

the reason I'm shying away from #4

you need more than one chicken to get 3 wings. But you can use one wing from each of 3 chickens.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 9, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

it is

aint no thing but a chicken wing on a string.

Get well soon Ueck

by molitorfan on Jun 10, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

What the hell is this nonsense:

Counsell 6
Weeks 4
Fielder 3
Braun 7
McGehee 5
Edmonds 8
Hart 9
Kottaras 2
Wolf 1

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jun 9, 2010 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Lefties killing Zambrano this year 1.091 OPS

The lineup looks to be stacking lefties and I’m on board with it even if it look peculiar. If there’s something the Brewers aren’t lacking this year, it’s left-handed bats.

2010 Zambrano against LHB: 72 PA, .385 BA, .444 OBP

Even his career splits show a 50 point increase in OBP for left-handed bats. Counsel’s career OBP vs. Zambrano is .351, but that’s due mostly to a killer 2004 season.

Ultimately, is anyone really sorry to see Escobar’s bat out of the lineup for a night, anyway?

by ecocd on Jun 9, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can hate me

and bash me,
but swap edmonds in hart, and I like it.

by Jeo on Jun 9, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Edmonds starting was so predictable after Gomez’s bunt last night.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jun 9, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

It was, indeed, a terrible bunt.

Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.

by theBrouhaha on Jun 9, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aren't all of his bunt attempts?

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 9, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty close

Not happy about the uppercutted flyball outs, either.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jun 9, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I mean his BABIP is .300

Its not like the guy is terribly unlucky.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jun 9, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

As I said, I like him in the field

I absolutely hate him at the plate. I don’t have any hope that he can learn to play offensive baseball.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jun 9, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

At the plate

He looks like that infielder we just drafted

by nullacct on Jun 9, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just wish he would stop bunting or faking the bunt or whatever the hell it is that he does all the time.

How many times has he not swung at strike one because he was “attempting” to bunt? Coaches can only do so much with a hitter, but you’d think that is one thing they could work on.

Having watched in MN, I’m not surprised and we’ve known from day 1 his value is in the field, still it is frustrating to watch.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jun 9, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

get him out of the #2 hole!

And get a coach that can teach Esky and GoGo how to bunt

Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.

by theBrouhaha on Jun 9, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

no doubt

If you can’t bunt, you can’t hit. It’s like learning to walk before you learn to run. These are not power guys and they should not be swinging for the fence. They should be hitting singles and stealing bases and making pitchers waste pitches and throws to first. How the hell they made it through the minors without those skills baffles me. It’s a fundamental baseball skill. Everyone bunts!

by nullacct on Jun 9, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Frank Thomas never bunted

Failure is just success rounded down.

by TheJay on Jun 9, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Immortals don't bunt.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 9, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Chuckie's hackin' on 2-0

Cuz that’s Chuckie’s game.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jun 9, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

in the end it didn’t matter
weeks still got the SB. unless they were planning on having him steal 3rd, which I doubt.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 9, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its not like he is surprising anyone

His current slash line of .257/.293/.393 and wOBA of .312 is remarkably similar to his career line of .247/.292/.352 and .289 wOBA.

His value is almost completely in the field. Ironically, Edmonds fielding is what subtracts from his skill at the plate. If there was a way to play Gomez in the field and have Edmonds bat for him, we’d have a supreme race.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jun 9, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with Jeo though

this is an okay lineup. I think I’d actually bump kottaras up a spot too, I think I like edmonds’ chance to clear the runners ahead of the pitcher better, despite Kottaras’ huge-ass OPS. Plus, it might give kottaras an extra PA.

I like the Weeks/Counsell swap and I’m okay with the Braun/Fielder swap. So, overall I like the lineup

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 9, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Someone needs to lead off

And Weeks isn’t it. He’s a great #2 but a terrible leadoff hitter.

by nullacct on Jun 9, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Extremely

Not like we have a better option on the team, until we get a coach to teach Gomez and Escobar what OBP is.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jun 9, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

26 walks, 71 strikeouts

for a leadoff hitter is terrible

by nullacct on Jun 9, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

That is a fine number of walks.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jun 9, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

They do matter

Not when you’re leading off a game/inning though.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jun 9, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's true ...

but Rickie has excellent speed. Maybe he could leg out a few more hits if he put the ball on the ground?

SRS BSNS

by Rubie Q on Jun 9, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

They always matter

A strikeout is a wasted chance at putting a ball in play. The league average for BAbip is what, about .265? That means his 71 K’s cost us 19 baserunners.

by nullacct on Jun 9, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure that's how that stat should be applied

but maybe. You’d rather have someone who both struck out less and got on base less leading off?

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jun 9, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe - but think about it

That grounder McGehee hit off the end of his bat was an easy out if he didn’t hit it where they ain’t. Casey’s awesome, but making contact on that pitch and applying BAbip chance to it was the difference between a K and 2 RBIs.

by nullacct on Jun 9, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's just one specific example

which doesn’t happen very often.

The lead-off batter’s job is to get on base so that the following batters can drive him in.

I don’t think Weeks is an ideal leadoff hitter, but the Brewers don’t have many options.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 9, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a recent example you can look at

But think about all the times Braun lines out to the shortstop – there’s a ball in play that ain’t. Abotu 70% of the time the defense takes care of what you hit, but you’re out 100% of the time on what you don’t hit.

by nullacct on Jun 9, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bad example

Braun has a higher OBP and BA, as well as is striking out less… there’s no argument that we’d want those attributes in our lead-off hitter.

But moving Braun to the lead-off spot leaves a pretty big hole in the middle of our lineup.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 9, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

When Braun lines out to SS...

that’s 100% of the time that he’s not on base… same as if he had struck out.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 9, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plus, if there are runners they could get doubled off

Maybe we should hit fewer line drives and strike out more.

by placidity on Jun 9, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you deliberately not understanding what I'm saying?

If you hit the ball, sometimes it’s an out, sometimes it’s not.
If you strike out, you’re always out.

by nullacct on Jun 9, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

if you hit the ball

sometimes you make 2 outs

then again, sometimes (a more rare sometimes) when you strike out you make 2 outs (K, throw out)

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 9, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought the Bill James thing

When we were talking about the value of runners was that you assume ~35% of all singles end up as runs

by nullacct on Jun 9, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I must not have been a part of that

that seems extremely high to me.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jun 9, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Still seems high to me. But, it is what it is.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jun 9, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

It would be higher, but
has only started games this season.

by ecocd on Jun 9, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

formatting fail

[insert Brewers pitcher name here] has only started [number of games] games this season.

by ecocd on Jun 9, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

okay, since 1980

runs / (hits + walks) = 36.25%

by nullacct on Jun 9, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a little overstated

because you’re using the wrong base, but, still, that’s surprising to me.

See Signature.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jun 9, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Strikeout

Or avoiding GIDP.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 9, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, you just care about the type of outs, not necessarily the total number of outs he makes.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jun 9, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the point is that if you put the ball in play, there’s obviously a greater chance of getting on base, due to errors and what not. Whether or not that’s statistically significant is something I don’t care about enough to look into, but I’d tend to think it’s a relatively rare occurrence.

He’s still the best candidate for the job on the team, unless you want Braun leading off.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jun 9, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind Braun leading off

He’s already creates more runs than he bats in, why not put him at the top where he can get more at bats? Steals bases too.

by nullacct on Jun 9, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because you want him up with runners on.

Or maybe you don’t, I’m not sure.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jun 9, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not many teams would put a 30-35 HR guy in the leadoff spot.

I think the argument is that you’d much rather have him up to bat with guys on base.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 9, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because Weeks has hit more HRs and had RISP when he got hits?

Seriously… are you suggesting that Weeks will have more RBIs and HRs than Braun by the end of the season?

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 9, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guys who never strike out usually don’t have great OBP because they are swinging at stuff out of the zone just to make contact. In that sense never striking out is a bad thing.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jun 9, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it depends...

his OBP is still decent enough.

Would you prefer that if more of those strikeouts were groundouts/flyouts?

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 9, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blasphemy!

All kidding aside, you’re correct. Counsell has a lower OBP and very little power. His only upside is that he will strikeout less than Weeks.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 9, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

How is that upside?

Out’s an out, especially at the top of the lineup when there’s not likely to be as many people on base.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jun 9, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

I know he had a good OBP and BA this season, but he’s got no speed. It’d be like having Kendall lead-off.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 9, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was going to mention that earlier

I’m guessing that due to the fact that starters not named Yovani aren’t making it very far into games that Loe and Capuano are the LRs?

Either that or Macha doesn’t want Lucroy to play anymore.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 9, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably both

Although honestly, any one of Cappy/Bush/Loe could start and have the other 2 in the pen.

It’s not gonna take much more Dave Bush-itude to change this decision, mesathings.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jun 9, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, I guess that frees up another spot on the 40-man roster.

Any ideas who this will be claimed by?

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 9, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Salome's change to the outfield

was at his request, per McCalvy & Haudricourt. Wonder if him not being comfortable catching was part of his issues so far this year.

Also, as Jack Moore put it: Prospect Status Revoked.

Back of the line, Angel, enjoy Brevard County

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jun 9, 2010 4:28 PM CDT reply actions  

No place for him at catcher in the Brewers organization

He was never going to be a starting catcher with the Brewers given Lucroy jumping past him, but anyone with his experience and ability it seems should be able to find a back up spot somewhere. I don’t think we would have been jumping for joy at this point in the season to see Salome on the major league roster backing up Kottaras, but I wouldn’t be begging them to find a veteran to sign, either.

To each his own, I guess.

by ecocd on Jun 9, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, he was more valuable

as a catcher, whether in our organization or not. He’s got far less value now that he’s catching.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jun 9, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

And he was your favorite Brewer prospect too

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jun 9, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

But if he is able to starting hitting like he did in Huntsville in 2008, they’d probably want to move him to another position anyway.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jun 9, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also

I’ve informed my employer that I don’t like my current job, and would like another one.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jun 9, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me too

I asked to be moved to a different division within the company last year and have been a lot happier since.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jun 9, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

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