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Game Thread #93: Brewers (42-50) at Braves (53-38)

Milwaukee Brewers at Atlanta Braves, Jul 18, 2010 12:35 PM CDT


Well, this could be interesting.

Even after back-to-back losses, the Braves are 31-12 at home and haven't lost a series at Turner Field since dropping two of three to the Phillies in April. Today, the Brewers look to take three of four from the team that entered the series with the NL's best record.

And, of course, we also have the continuing storyline of the last two nights' plunkings.


Current Series

Brewers lead the series 2-1

Thu 07/15 WP: Jair Jurrjens (2 - 3)
SV: Billy Wagner
LP: Dave Bush (4 - 7)
1 - 2 loss
Fri 07/16 WP: Randy Wolf (7 - 8)
LP: Tommy Hanson (8 - 6)
9 - 3 win
Sat 07/17 WP: Chris Narveson (8 - 6)
SV: John Axford
LP: Tim Hudson (9 - 5)
6 - 3 win

Milwaukee Brewers
@ Atlanta Braves

Sunday, Jul 18, 2010, 12:35 PM CDT
Turner Field

Manny Parra vs Derek Lowe

Partly cloudy,rain. Winds blowing out to center field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game time temperature around 85.

Complete Coverage >


Follow the jump for today's pitching matchups and more!

Star-divide

For Derek Lowe (4.35 ERA, 4.15 FIP), you can more or less divide this season into two parts. Coming into his May 12 start against the Brewers Lowe had a 6.16 ERA and opposing batters were hitting .293/.371/.453 off of him. Lowe allowed two runs on six hits over six innings to the Brewers that day, and has posted a 3.45 ERA in twelve starts since. He's only allowed eight earned runs in his last 25 innings (a 2.88 ERA), but the Braves are 0-4 in those contests.

Lowe throws his 88.3 mph average fastball 67.2% of the time, and mixes in a change 16.8% of the time. Both pitches are above average. He needs to be efficient to be successful, because he typically doesn't throw a lot of pitches: He's been pulled before 100 in 13 of his 19 starts in 2010. Five Brewers have seen him ten or more times:

Player PA AVG OBP SLG OPS
Craig Counsell 35 .370 .450 .444 .902
Jim Edmonds 34 .188 .235 .313 .548
Prince Fielder 21 .235 .381 .235 .616
Corey Hart 18 .353 .389 .588 .977
Rickie Weeks 10 .333 .400 .333 .733

Manny Parra (4.65 ERA, 4.26 FIP) is still a riddle wrapped in an enigma. His ERA and walk rate are significantly down from 2009, but opposing hitters are still hitting a ridiculous .380 on balls put in play against him. Parra's .358 career BABIP is nearly unparalleled. His last three starts before the All Star break were not very good: He's posted a 7.47 ERA in his last 15.2 innings and failed to survive the sixth inning in all three starts.

Parra faced the Braves twice as a reliever when these two teams met in May, allowing three earned runs on five hits in 3.1 innings. Troy Glaus is the only Brave who's faced Parra ten times or more: He's hitting .222/.417/.222 in 12 PAs.

Via Anthony Witrado, here's today's lineup:

2B Rickie Weeks
RF Corey Hart
LF Ryan Braun
1B Prince Fielder
3B Casey McGehee
SS Craig Counsell
CF Carlos Gomez
C George Kottaras
LHP Manny Parra

And in the bullpen:

Todd Coffey pitched .2 innings (21 pitches) yesterday, and has appeared in three straight games.
Kameron Loe pitched 1 inning (15 pitches) yesterday, and also pitched on Friday.
John Axford pitched 1.1 innings (17 pitches) yesterday.

Zach Braddock pitched .1 innings (9 pitches) Friday.
Trevor Hoffman pitched 1 inning (11 pitches) Friday.
David Riske pitched .1 innings (4 pitches) Thursday.
Carlos Villanueva and Chris Capuano haven't pitched since before the All Star break.

Enjoy the game!

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Any player coming to the ballpark today with any attitude better check it at the dugout.

Otherwise they stand a fairly good chance of getting a mouthful of baseball.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 11:56 AM CDT reply actions  

The fans will be lucky the Brewers backs will get in the way

Just for those little “inaccuracies”

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gloves f***ing off.

This is the same team that plunked Braun on the wrist and took his mojo for two months. Anything anywhere near hitting someone and I fully endorse a physically-induced attitude adjustment.

I don’t care if you win or lose, just take the field with your knuckles taped.

by nullacct on Jul 18, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would someone please explain

wtf all the cheering is all about in the Dells? Is it the super-slide that makes them act that way? And how much is the Dells business community forking over to FSWI to abuse us with this mega-commercial? Inquiring minds have had enough!

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 12:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Plunk the marketing departments!

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the same as the

cross-promotion with Summerfest and everything else.

As long as Craig and Jerry keep their shirts on, I don’t see what the problem is.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

You're right. The pre-game sucks with or without the racket.

I turned it off. Thanks.

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree.

The pregame show usually features Brewer-related content. This has nothing to do with the Brewers, it’s just an extended ad for the Dells.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

But they did the same thing with summerfest, and Craig & Jerry don’t know what the hell they’re talking about anyway, so may as well have them advertise the dells in lieu of making fools of themselves.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope the decision to put them in the Dells

Wasn’t based on the logic that “they suck everywhere, so they won’t suck more there.”

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure it wasn't.

But Jerry needs to go away, and I wouldn’t be opposed to CC being relegated to secondary sports like the NBA on a FT basis.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

"secondary sports like the NBA"

If only everyone treated it that way.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

He can take over broadcasting UWM basketball for Daron Sutton

Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.

by TheJay on Jul 18, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Extended ads on pay-first, then-see cable TV

are part of the business plan that we submit to. The fact that player uniforms aren’t festooned with logos by now is a minor miracle. Ok, back to baseball…

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dear Manny Parra

Unless you want to get beat up by Prince again, I suggest you drill a few Braves batters.

by Zak S on Jul 18, 2010 12:26 PM CDT reply actions  

There will only be a chance for one beaning today

Then it’s game over, umpires will be all over it after that.

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

so

Parra getting tossed isn’t the end of the world

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 18, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Given our recent bullpen usage...

and the fact that Capuano is starting tomorrow, it might be.

Definitely want to avoid seeing CV tonight. Or for the rest of the year.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Manny in for 5, Villy/Riske to the ninth, then Ax

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a fair point.

If Parra gets tossed early today, it’s possible he could go again tomorrow.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

An early ejection today could cause a huge headache for tomorrow.

If the bullpen has to fill 6-7 innings today, and Capuano is only going 3-4 tomorrow, they’ll have a pretty rough time finding pitchers to cover it.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have Cain pitch a couple two three innings

Macha’s not going to use him for much else

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Looks like he’s going to sit the bench until Gallardo comes off the DL, then head back to Nashville.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

No excuse for that guy to be on the team.

if he’s not starting 3-5 days a week.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's a reason Sherman burned it down.

But like creeping charley, it just keeps coming back every spring… ;-)

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

terrible city

and a rec

Get well soon Ueck

by molitorfan on Jul 18, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bring Jeffress up now....

just so he can hit someone with that 99mph fastball

I only watch the games for Taiilgate Tips.

by jmag043 on Jul 18, 2010 12:32 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Nice. Sort of like Bill Veeck

bringing up a little person for one AB. Too bad we won’t see the bRaves again ’til the playoffs.
;-)

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

The dumbest thing about the "ball that got away"

Is that everyone pitches Fielder outside. The book on Fielder is that you don’t pitch to the inside or he’ll kill you. You pitch outside because he is such a dead-pull hitter.

To say that one got away because they were trying to pitch him inside is stupid. Everyone that tries to get him out pitches him outside.

by grant76 on Jul 18, 2010 12:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Ned Yost "Sunday Lineup" (tm) Game of the Week:

Cardinals v. Dodgers.

Lopez 3B, Jay CF, Craig 1B, Holliday LF, Winn RF, Schumaker 2B, LaRue C, Suppan P, Ryan SS

vs.

Furcal SS, Carroll 3B, Ethier RF, Kemp CF, DeWitt 2B, Belliard 1B, Paul LF, Ellis C, Padilla P.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 12:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow

The Cards even stuck with The Money Order, keeping Craig third in the lineup because that’s where first basemen hit.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the Cards win with that lineup

the game was fixed.

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

TLR is off his rocker

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Must be nice

being able to replace Chipper Jones with an ALL STAR!

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 1:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Fielder booed during introductions...

… Braves fans aren’t the smartest, are they? They’ve somehow convinced themselves that Cox and Venters’ ejections were his fault…

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 18, 2010 1:09 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I like the bottom of the lineup today. Could be fun for us.

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey Rickie!

I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful

by Michael M on Jul 18, 2010 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Weeks says "bean this"

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Way to go Rickie

You just earned yourself a plunk.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Nah

They’ll just hit Prince again.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

That’s one way to have Lowe stop pitching for you.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

SHIT!!!!

I am not excited by this HR. Rickie is going to get hit in the head now.

by Bush League All Star on Jul 18, 2010 1:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Dear Atlanta:

Suck it.

Love,

Rickie.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 18, 2010 1:12 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Well, here we go.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 1:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Braun limping?

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 18, 2010 1:14 PM CDT reply actions  

It's a possibility.

Waited on too many tables during the allstar break.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Time to raise Cain to starter and sit Brauny for the P-rats

or sooner

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not good. He doesn't want to grab it, but...

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just spend some time reading the thread at talking chop

nothing like gay-bashing and calling our team assholes to send me right back to BCB

Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.

by theBrouhaha on Jul 18, 2010 1:14 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Classy.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

not to mention the terms they use about Prince

Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.

by theBrouhaha on Jul 18, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Someone over at Talking Chop cited Fielder's "bat flip"....

… they just showed the replay and he still had the bat in his hand while running to first.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 18, 2010 1:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Ha!

Wonder how Braves fans would like it to see Heyward or Hanson take a 95 miler to the upper back.

by Bush League All Star on Jul 18, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Best part is now we don't know how baseball is supposed to be played...

If a guys hits a HR, he should be subsequently plunked. Plunk Everyone is happy.

by Bush League All Star on Jul 18, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, that was the homerun they found offensive?

I think San Fran, St. Louis, and Atlanta need to get over themselves, what isn’t classless to these guys?

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 1:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Themselves?

Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.

by theBrouhaha on Jul 18, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still think the Braves know the steal sign.

That’s two pitchouts on SB attempts in the series…and it’s not like the Brewers attempt all the time.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 1:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Macha should use the Japanese ones he learned?

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a great point by Rock.

McCann was charging the mound on that pitch out.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 1:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Absolutely

Never really see that, and now we know why.

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cause it's a balk

Can’t step in front of home plate before the pitch gets there

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

He could have, definitely.

But it probably would have required some extremely quick thinking and generated some plunkings.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Maybe it’s McCann who deserves one in the back now…

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure what it is with this Atlanta series

But the crack of the bat sounds most excellent. Every hit sounds like a home run.

by Greggers on Jul 18, 2010 1:25 PM CDT reply actions  

The Braves fans are breathing too much hot air into the area.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think there's a mic a little too close to the plate.

If you’ll recall, we’ve also heard a few shouted expletives in the series.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

heard way too many “Nascar cheers” coming from the stands.

Get well soon Ueck

by molitorfan on Jul 18, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

BA and Rock gave a tip of the hat

to the Fox Atlanta sound guy during game one. Listen to the pitch to catcher. Amazing. I think he may be able to augment the natural sound., but it’s still quite cool.

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Out of curiousity, who is the 'favored' centerfielder of the future?

To me it’s Cain, but does anyone actually think the job belongs to Gomez?

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 1:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd like to see an open competition for the job next season.

Having both on the roster would be nice, especially if Cain can win the job and Gomez can become a pinch runner/defensive guy.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed, this is what I'd like to see as well

But depending on what happens with Hart, both might end up playing.

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just kinda hope they don’t trade away Hart, then put Gomez in center and Cain in right.

by warwick5s on Jul 18, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

And JEd on his couch.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Minnesota's plan to make Go-Go a slap hitting bunter

failed. I don’t even know if the Brewers have a plan. Seems like he’s totally on his own with us. Cain is a center fielder. Great range, decent arm.

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be honest, I'm not super high on Cain

Gomez and Cain are both 24 and Gomez is in his 3rd MLB year and Cain is just getting out of AA.

by grant76 on Jul 18, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

to me

it matters more how they’re trending now and what their current level is

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 18, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's when you usually get out of AAA...

and it’s not that Gomez has showed anything in the majors during that time…

I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful

by Michael M on Jul 18, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've seen Cain play in Maryvale

Don’t use the age factor as a deciding one.

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just ask Heyward

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cain probably would've been here earlier if not for injuries

I think as far as the full package goes, Cain will have a better chance of putting it all together. Good defense with good defense opposed to plus defense with no offense.

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Promotin’ Peterson: Hey Manny, I think Ken is going to pull ya soon.
Manny Parra: Dude, get your hand off my pitching arm. At least coddle my glove arm.
PP: Oh sorry, but Macha is going to pull ya so just plunk dudes.
MP: Come on Petey, you know my head issues. Plus if I plunk someone and get ejected, they will just put in Cappy and he will give up bombs.
PP: Your problem being?
MP: Prince is going to toss me through the Gatorade cooler!!!

by Bush League All Star on Jul 18, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

who are the idiots

that are screaming directly into the mic on FSN

"There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary. And there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I learned that, I gave Jesus a chance."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

so you hear it too?

"There are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary. And there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I learned that, I gave Jesus a chance."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Everything is open to the airwaves, it seems.

Well, if a fight breaks out, we’ll get to hear everything possible.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

First base is open

It’s faster to plunk than walk, time to give them something to think about

by nullacct on Jul 18, 2010 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey!

McCann was clapping quite a bit over there at third. Excessive!!

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 1:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Third reference to Diaz being skewered by a palm frond.

BA, we get it already, OK?

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know we keep bringing up the sound, but it just makes the game sound more... intense.

It sounds like both teams really want this game. And badly.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

It's that parabolic mic directly behind home plate.

I guess there’s no place for someone to do that at MP.

by Zorakathura on Jul 18, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

kinda like watching a little league world series game

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quite.

Finding out which team is going to cry after the game.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I used to love watching the Little League World Series when I was younger

I even recognized one of the names who was drafted last year.

My goodness.

by BrewHaHeather on Jul 18, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, Randal Grichuk (sp?)

Drafted by the Angels last year.

My goodness.

by BrewHaHeather on Jul 18, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, my bad

Rasmus was before me time watching the LLWS.

My goodness.

by BrewHaHeather on Jul 18, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

NP!

I just did a brief read.

I omitted, through my reading, who was drafted last year part! Not your bad, my bad entirely.

by Bush League All Star on Jul 18, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's more exciting when youre the same age as those kids

because you’re impressed…Isn’t it funny how every year there is some overgrown 12-year old that looks like he should be in high school?

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

is he part horse?

i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!

by sowingwildoats on Jul 18, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

For real?

That’s like, Prince Fielder-sized.

My goodness.

by BrewHaHeather on Jul 18, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd post a pic but you'd probably think I photoshopped it

I’m 6’2", my wife is 5’11", he comes by it honestly

by nullacct on Jul 18, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow

there is your retirement fund!

Get well soon Ueck

by molitorfan on Jul 18, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

we all know how good you are at photoshopping..

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

best pic I have atm

I should take more pictures of the kids I guess. They grow fast.

by nullacct on Jul 18, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

he looks like Jake from 2 and a half men!

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I read somewhere

That Pujols was thought to be at least 2 to 3 years older than the other kids when he played in HS. Some scouts discounted his play because it was thought he was lying about his age. Which would mean he still is.

by Zorakathura on Jul 18, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Though I have to say,

If I was 12, and I was 2 feet taller and wider than everyone else, I’d want to destroy them in sports as well.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's when I enjoyed watching it the most

when they were the same age as me. A couple years later, it didn’t really interest me.

My goodness.

by BrewHaHeather on Jul 18, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

i wouldn't call it a collapse at all

considering how much worse we’ve seen.

i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!

by sowingwildoats on Jul 18, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

He handled it very well. I like Good Manny.

My goodness.

by BrewHaHeather on Jul 18, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bend but don't break. Good to see.

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Time to go brown my Johnsonville Brat...

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 1:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Did you find the information provided by Chef Jerry Garcia

Useful?
Somewhat Useful?
Not So Useful?
Or…
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS GUY DOING ON TV TO TELL ME HOW TO FKN COOK!?!? RAGE4

by Bush League All Star on Jul 18, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That salad he just made was Andre the Giant-sized

How would you eat pieces of bread and cheese that big in a salad??

by Greggers on Jul 18, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

State's Official Culinary Symbol?

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know.

I just googled world’s largest fork!

by Bush League All Star on Jul 18, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha nothing like a Tailgate Tip..

which is not useful because I’m somewhere where a TV is

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

A+ swing manny

will request again

i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!

by sowingwildoats on Jul 18, 2010 1:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Kottarras is Canadian.

I wonder if he played hockey. I bet he knows how to throw a punch or two.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 1:48 PM CDT reply actions  

could be handy in the near future..

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

God I hope so.

I’m feelin downright bloodthirsty

by nullacct on Jul 18, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we need to refresh the punchbowl...

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

leave atlanta on a one way ticket

fist class

i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!

by sowingwildoats on Jul 18, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Question

How in the world are Angel Hernandez and Country Joe West on the same umpiring crew? or am I mistaken? They are both widely considered to be two of the worst in the game.

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

deliciously anti-climatic

i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!

by sowingwildoats on Jul 18, 2010 1:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Dang, I was opening to see Braun "run one out" to see if the hammy is real

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh-oh. Leadoff walk.

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

alright this is absolutely ridiculous

those were the same pitches lowe got last inning.

i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!

by sowingwildoats on Jul 18, 2010 1:59 PM CDT reply actions  

ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

i fucking hate this game

i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!

by sowingwildoats on Jul 18, 2010 2:01 PM CDT reply actions  

THAT was a chippy run. Settle down, Manny!

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 2:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Kottaras checking on the earball sign....

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welp.

Didn’t see that coming.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

oops

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Well things are going well

I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful

by Michael M on Jul 18, 2010 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Always. BA never calls it. Always the pitcher...

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

110%

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

And now Manny is an "innings eater"?

When the defense ain’t working, the game goes on forever…

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

prado shouldn't have even walked to start this inning

50% manny, then the rest on the ump and defense.

i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!

by sowingwildoats on Jul 18, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the ump was at fault too

There were plenty of bad calls that inning.

My goodness.

by BrewHaHeather on Jul 18, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

That ruins my Sunday

for now

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Is it just me

or do we never retaliate when other team’s intentionally plunk us.

My goodness.

by BrewHaHeather on Jul 18, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we finally agree that it is time to move on from this never ending Manny experiment

This guy is never going to the be the guy we hoped he was.

"It's a joke. It's all a joke.

by WSB Chris on Jul 18, 2010 2:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Parra's been the 3rd best starter on the team this year

(after Gallardo & Narveson) and was great in 2008. He’s got a ton of upside, no reason to give up on him.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

See Jorge De la Rosa

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yep.

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

This

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bush good games are FAR more rare than Manny good games.

so wasting Bush’s good outings is far worse, as they’re more rare.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Define a good Bush game

I wouldn’t really call them rare these days.

My goodness.

by BrewHaHeather on Jul 18, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

These days, no

career with brewers, yes.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

But at least going into today

Manny as SP > Bush as SP (assuming looking at 2010 stats only is viable, which is isn’t)

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bush has been decent with the Brewers

Last year, yeah, he was bad. But this year and every other year, he’s been decent. Average back of the rotation starter.

My goodness.

by BrewHaHeather on Jul 18, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

but average back of the rotation pitchers don’t have great games very often.

But, we reallllllly need to trade dave bush. So… guess I should hype him up too.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lets trade him for..

A soft-tossing lefty!!

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ooops, Bush has 11 quality starts this year.

I think you’re thinking about the two games Macha left him in to swing in the wind…

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Can't just look at one year

and quality starts? Please.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had quality start this morning.

I didn’t stub my toe when I got out of bed and I wasn’t out of half and half.

by Zorakathura on Jul 18, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

quality starts is a BS stat

simply put, Bushie is less talented then Parra, but has been slightly more reliable
therefore, Bush is doing more with less and vice versa for Parra, right?

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Therefore, Bush is a good trade candidate.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know, but the QS stat is the league standard, as lame as it may be

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

A QS for the Brewers is really all they need too

They have the ability to score 3 or 4 a game

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

So are we better off with Bush or Parra

in next years starting rotation? or neither? I sure hope its not both

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd pick Bush

More consistent. Parra is just such an enigma.

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say Parra

He’s been better than Bush this year, when you account for luck. Plus, he’s got much much more upside, and is much cheaper

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dear Vetters,

That’s how you go inside on Prince.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

One of these days t’s won’t look like n’s.

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Erm.

What’re you doing between the second and third panel?

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Browning his Johnsonville Brat

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Looking away with disdain.

Hey look, a plunking!

How far will this one fly?

by Rendezvous on Jul 18, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cartoonists' inside joke?

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Corey Hart, continues his quest to look stupider and stupider.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 2:29 PM CDT reply actions  

I like Corey's hat

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:29 PM CDT reply actions  

7-1 score..

Cue Rock and BA commentary on random couples in the crowd..

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Remember when we had a 1-0 lead?

Those were good times.

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 2:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Thats a spike

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Good lord

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

So according to Rock..

Parra should be in the minors?

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Cappy, heat up. Trevor, too.

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 2:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Cappys going tomorrow..

unless I’m missing some underlying sarcasm

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't Monday already? I'm old...

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just think how Trevor Hoffman feels

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

with his 50 million dollars? I can't really.

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

What? You don't have that kind of money?

what is this world coming to

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Villy, then. But definitely Trev

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

4th palm frond reference for BA re Diaz

Pull the lead announcer and give us the radio feed!

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 2:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Are you kidding me? Davey Nelson was born for radio!

The fact that Provus puts up with him is beyond me

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

True. But there are worse than Nelson. Browse thru the Gameday Audio options

Pathetic. Ron Santo, for one…

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does anybody else feel like..

Parra was at a disadvantage to begin because he was the 3rd lefty in a row to face the Braves?

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:40 PM CDT reply actions  

no

I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful

by Michael M on Jul 18, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

well I guess its easy to imagine

what this game would be like if he WAS at a disadvantage

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope

Doomed himself

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure. I'll bite. I'm a fan.

But bad ball-strike calling and sucky defense are the actionable problems. Now that Rock is dumping on Manny and BA has put Lowe on a pedestal again, I’m outta here.

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Woo-hoo!

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Calling it right now... weeks hits 3-HR today

and we lose 8-3

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Weeks now has a career high for homeruns in a season

He’s not the reason we’re losing

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 2:46 PM CDT reply actions  

At least Brauns not quitting..

its games like these where it seems like he jogs down to 1st

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 2:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Results in a run too

Now got a little rally going here due to some hustle

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

He held his hammy

as he got to the base … unless he was just using that as an excuse.

by oconnobe on Jul 18, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did Gomez blow his hammy or something?

Never seen him so slow

I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful

by Michael M on Jul 18, 2010 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow, nice hustle Gomez

What was THAT? No way they should have doubled him up.

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Is Gomez hurt?

If he’s not, he should be getting his ass chewed right now, he pulled up 6 feet out of the box.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 18, 2010 2:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Ladies and gentlemen, you just witnessed history.

That’s the first time Gomez has ever grounded into two double plays in a game.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 2:59 PM CDT reply actions  

And if that was a pre-existing injury, Macha should get his ass chewed too.

Gomez is worthless if he can’t run.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 18, 2010 3:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not sure I disagree.

This is a guy who’s had a lot of major league time to prove he’s capable of something.

What he’s proven is that he:

A) Plays solid defense, but also:
B) Isn’t likely to ever reach a .300 OBP.

At current pace, his defensive prowess roughly evens out his offensive inadequacies. So if what you wanted was a guy who might spend the rest of his career within .5-1 win of replacement level, here you go.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I read magazines, periodically....

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Must not be hurt

Which means he gave up on that. Just awful, definitely deserves getting benched for that, he should have made that much closer than it was.

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

What?

It’s not like they have a top prospect that can play center rotting on the….oh wait.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeahhhh

Woo hoo! Let the Cain era begin!

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you think the Cain era

and the Gomez era are two distinct things, you’re way way off.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

?

Don’t quite understand.

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't really a reply to you

but the Cain era is in RF, Gomez era is in CF.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously

Blah…

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Warnings being issued?

Whatever, but that was an accident.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 3:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Given the situation

I sure can’t blame him. Kind of surprised warnings weren’t issued at the beginning of the game.

by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 18, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

HYPOCRITES

That was definitely intentional. He tried to hit him the two pitches before. u guys got mad that venters hit him with a sinker after missing with a BREAKING BALL the pitch before and you dont t hink that was intentional? Really?

Current weight: 210
Goal weight: 170

I can do this!

by adamlawson3 on Jul 18, 2010 3:07 PM CDT reply actions  

oh yeah, we really wanted to take him out so we nicked him in the thigh

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

umm where would u rather hit him?

?

Current weight: 210
Goal weight: 170

I can do this!

by adamlawson3 on Jul 18, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why the hell would u do that?

JHey plays the game the right way. Prince is an asshole who hates his father for no reason.

Current weight: 210
Goal weight: 170

I can do this!

by adamlawson3 on Jul 18, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

that's sig worthy

I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful

by Michael M on Jul 18, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

come on

“JHey” has a 3 month history of playing the game the right way.

Get well soon Ueck

by molitorfan on Jul 18, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

For no reason.. like you know the guy?

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Purely because it made me laugh out loud.

by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 18, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate your father.

I do have a reason though.

by Zorakathura on Jul 18, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Took the words out of my mouth.

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

well if we were going to intentionally hit him..

i could think of a few better places to aim

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Come to my house right now and I'll show ya.

:)

(PS. Not really. I’m a bleeder.)

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 18, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes, really

I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful

by Michael M on Jul 18, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah.

That guy didn’t have a “3” at the end of his name.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...

…. so this guy’s an evil genius then? Cool. I was looking for an arch-nemesis.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 18, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

notice

the number on the end of his name. Clever- I didn’t think that they could count that high in the south.

Get well soon Ueck

by molitorfan on Jul 18, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why do you RANDOMLY CAPITALIZE words?

by Zorakathura on Jul 18, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not anymore today.

I’ve added a temporary probation period for new members.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

seriously

although waking up to spam every morning is pleasant.

Get well soon Ueck

by molitorfan on Jul 18, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd love to block as many trolls/spammers as possible.

But I also think the vast majority of new members are neither spammers nor trolls. As such, which I can see the argument for both sides, I’d rather not stifle the ability for new members to immediately jump in.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Use the flag function, our leaders tend to be pretty responsive.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you David Riske

You just earned your money.

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Ok. Seriously.

Riske needs to be gone. That’s the way it works.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed.

After a warning, he should’ve been tossed.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure seems like it

Or maybe the umps were sympathetic toward the Brewers because of how the Braves have acted this series.

I’ve seen nothing but bunch of babyish antics from Atlanta the past 2 games.

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe it was a

“okay, Manny’s wasn’t intentional, so we probably shouldn’t have warned guys, so we’ll let this one go” thing.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that could be too

I’d like to think it’s the other way, ATL looked like total classless jerks last night.

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nonetheless

If you issue a warning, you have to follow up. Otherwise, why issue the warning?

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Just grasping at a possible explanation.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same here

And I agree that ejection was probably needed.

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

he was really warning ATL

which is umpire favoritism…perhaps justified, but inappropriate for his position.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 18, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh no? Two hit batters?

But we’re down 6 runs? Why would we want to put more baserunners on? What kind of strategy is this?

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 3:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Macha looks older than Cox in that shot

I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful

by Michael M on Jul 18, 2010 3:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Is it just me

or do the numbers on the back of RP’s jersey look disproportionately huge?

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 3:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Take notes, Braves fans.

This is what a pitcher who’s actually wild looks like.

by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 18, 2010 3:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey folks, Braves fan here

I personally found that warning after the Heyward HBP ridiculous and part of what’s wrong with baseball these days. I don’t know if the Fielder HBP last night was intentional, but I certainly understand that it looked that way. The problem with hitters these days is that they have no fear for the inside pitch because umpires have taken that away from the pitchers and when a pitchers comes inside now hitters react worse than Moises Alou in the Bartman thing which makes the situation worse than it should be.

Add on top of that umps are too trigger quick to issue a warning over an inside pitch and you have a combustible situation. Either way, not trying to stir up any bad feelings, but I think a lot of the issues with HBP and inside pitching falls on the umpire shoulders who’ve taken the inside pitch away from pitchers. Just my two cents. Hopefully Uecker gets better. Love that guy.

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by AuditDawg on Jul 18, 2010 3:17 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, those pitches at the head are a dying art because of umpires.

"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10

by MadtownTim on Jul 18, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I try to be a reasonable person from the other side

And you are just a dick. Whatever, stay classy Milwaukee.

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by AuditDawg on Jul 18, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uecker

Yes. This we can agree on.

by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 18, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

"I don’t know if the Fielder HBP last night was intentional"

How can you not know? Over his head and then in his back, that’s a damn joke.

"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck

by GormanBraun28 on Jul 18, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let it go.

No reason to start this one again.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Later everyone.

I wore out my ability to argue with trolls who signed up 30 seconds before their first post last night.

Enjoy the rest of your Sunday.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 18, 2010 3:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey Guys

Was here last night discussing the whole situation. I don’t think the first guy hit Heyward on purpose….if he did….well, at least he took it pretty easy on him. But Glaus getting hit looked to be a little more intentional, if only because it got more of him. Do you think Riske didn’’’t get ejected because he wasn’t the one pitching when the warning was issued? is that a rule?

by asset on Jul 18, 2010 3:22 PM CDT reply actions  

It's not.

And to be honest, I don’t know why he wasn’t ejected. I’ll admit I think he should have been.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it wrong to hope for rain at this point?

Down 11-3 in the seventh, I’d take a rainout and save two innings of bullpen for tomorrow.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 3:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Ideally

Riske pitches the 7th, and they bring in mop-up CV for the 8th.

Or just forfeit, I’d take that too.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last night I loved baseball

Today I hate it. I hate how this game works

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 3:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Parra kept throwing inside...

you be the judge..

I only watch the games for Taiilgate Tips.

by jmag043 on Jul 18, 2010 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I only watch the games for Taiilgate Tips.

by jmag043 on Jul 18, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let it be known that Gameday

is now the all-knowing arbiter of pitch location

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I figured it was just a bunch of guesstimates

considering it doesnt really matter how accurate they look on Gameday

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

gameday is based on pitchfx

which is based on an array of real-time camera systems.

same as the cameras for grand slam tennis events that feed a sophisticated computer system to confirm/deny calls.

some stadiums are slightly miscalibrated (or were two seasons ago) and there’s going to be occasional random objects that screw up its placement.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 18, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Parra wanted to hit him

he would have hit him. I wouldn’t call a ball brushing the side of Heyward’s pants malicious.

My goodness.

by BrewHaHeather on Jul 18, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

this kid has had 2 great strokes this series

Get well soon Ueck

by molitorfan on Jul 18, 2010 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Just like Uecker's first major league hit:

Guy allows the first ML hit, immediately gets pulled.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 3:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow can he turn on inside fastballs

That’s two now that he has turned around that were 95+

"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10

by MadtownTim on Jul 18, 2010 3:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Come on Corey

pad your RBIs

Get well soon Ueck

by molitorfan on Jul 18, 2010 3:32 PM CDT reply actions  

At least

after this contentious HBP-riddled series, we get to go face Jeff Karstens tomorrow.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Is it time to start Cain in center now?

Gomez looks like he’s hobbled/needs a few days off..

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 3:39 PM CDT reply actions  

I only watch the games for Taiilgate Tips.

by jmag043 on Jul 18, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't want Cain

getting used to CF. It’s time to trade Corey Hart.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right field is easier to fill than left.

If Cain is capable of playing center, he should stick there where his value will be higher.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

but I firmly believe Gomez and Cain are both big parts of the future plans.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope you're right.

But at present, you’re more optimistic about Gomez than I am.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Frankly, what on earth has Gomez shown thus far?

Strong up the middle is the mantra. Gomez is no answer for a team that wants to be a contender.

And Cain may be the answer. Like I say, I saw him play in Maryvale for two years. Reminded me of Jeff Cirillo at the plate, actually. He deserves at least the same chance that Gamel was given last year, imo.

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's possible you're right and I'm wrong

But it seems like you’re all for long leashes today. Between Parra and Gomez, it seems like you’d be comfortable losing for a long time while sitting around and waiting to see if either of these guys figure it out.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I suppose that'd be one viable way to treat the rest of this season

the other would be to give someone else a shot to deserve they belong.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 18, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah, I've got a long leash.

but that comment was more referring to “He deserves the same chance that Gamel was given last year”

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 18, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't The Right Plan to lose for a while anyway?

Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.

by TheJay on Jul 18, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think if you're a CF, you can play anywhere in the outfield

I imagine fly balls don’t look much different in right than they do in left.

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I made the same mistake as KL

i also meant to say center instead of left

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah

Sign Weeks and move Lawrie to RF.

My goodness.

by BrewHaHeather on Jul 18, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, trade Gomez.

Or release him. Whatever.

My goodness.

by BrewHaHeather on Jul 18, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if I'd release him.

There are still situations where he could be useful. But he should bat sparingly, if ever.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that works too.

The “release him” was a result of my frustration with him and today’s game ingeneral.

My goodness.

by BrewHaHeather on Jul 18, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree.

"When you really, really break it down the only numbers that count is how many runs you help (produce) and how many runs you save. There’s really not a number for that." --Casey McGehee

by heybatterbatter on Jul 18, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

one could only hope

lets just pray that its not one of those incomplete comebacks where we get within 1 and still lose

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

See!

:)

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 18, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amy Aaronson

I’ll admit she’s cute, but that’s the strangest accent I’ve ever heard from a professional weather forecaster.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Unless someone else accomplished it today

The Brewers are now the only team with 3 players with 17 or more home runs.

The Blue Jays would have three if they hadn’t traded Alex Gonzalez away.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 3:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Gonzalez had 17 HR with Toronto

So I would count them, even after the trade.

Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.

by TheJay on Jul 18, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is Lorenzo Cain a one trick pony?

He was trying to line the ball to left on the foul there, too.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 4:00 PM CDT reply actions  

good lord

wow

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 4:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Good for Cain.

Making sure Macha will hear about it if he leaves him out of the lineup tomorrow.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

His swing sure does bear resemblence to S-Keys

although he appears to get more contact

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 4:03 PM CDT reply actions  

we dont have enough outs

for a sac fly comeback

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Like there

:)

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 18, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where were you earlier?

Could have used you for those bases-loaded innings!

Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"

by GoGregGo on Jul 18, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

i just prefer them coming via the hit

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

There would be no greater satisfaction

than a meltdown of Cardinals-Rockies proportion

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Brewers 1-5 hitters today - 10 hits

6-9 starters – 0 hits.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Let's hope

the offense comes with us to the Burgh

Get well soon Ueck

by molitorfan on Jul 18, 2010 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Well

we got to their closer after it was 8-1 earlier.

Get well soon Ueck

by molitorfan on Jul 18, 2010 4:08 PM CDT reply actions  

love it

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

no no no no no no non ono

i didnt go around

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 4:09 PM CDT reply actions  

What was that?

That was a bizarre reaction.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 4:09 PM CDT reply actions  

took me by surprise

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

and McGehee is limping

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 4:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Casey

hurt or very slow, or both

Get well soon Ueck

by molitorfan on Jul 18, 2010 4:11 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah...

was marveling at how long that play took to unfold on the radio…I assumed he was dogging it.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 18, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Post game thread

is open.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 18, 2010 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Corey

back up to a 9-game hit streak

"Staying up to watch the 10 o'clock Olds? This just in--Go to bed."

by schmita91 on Jul 18, 2010 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

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