Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Ohio State And Florida Target 2013 Receiver Recruits

Pirates 15, Brewers 3

W: Zach Duke (4-9)
L: Randy Wolf (7-9)

HR: George Kottaras (8), Delwyn Young (4), Pedro Alvarez 2 (7)

MVP: George Kottaras (+.085)
LVP: Randy Wolf (-.597)

Win Expectancy Graph and Star of the Game Voting
SB Nation Coverage

If you watched tonight's game I hope you enjoyed the small taste of history. Randy Wolf allowed twelve earned runs tonight, on 13 hits and two walks, in 5.2 innings of work. Now, I know what you're thinking: "12 earned runs. That's pretty bad, right?"*

Yeah, that's pretty bad. Actually, it's historically bad:

  • Wolf is just the second pitcher in franchise history to allow 12 earned runs. Bill Travers was the other: He allowed 14 earned runs in game two of a doubleheader on August 14, 1977.
  • Wolf is only the second pitcher in all of baseball this season to do it: Scott Kazmir allowed 13 on July 10.
  • Brian Anderson mentioned that the Brewers are the first team to have three starting pitchers allow ten runs in a four game stretch since the 1937 St. Louis Browns.
  • Tonight's 15 runs was a season-high for the Pirates. It's only the sixth time all year they reached double digits.
Here's some other stuff:
  • Prince Fielder was hit by another pitch tonight, his fourth in six games.
  • Rickie Weeks went 0-for-4 with a walk, ending his hitting streak at seven games.
  • Lorenzo Cain went 1-for-2. He's likely headed back to the minors tomorrow after going 3-for-5 in limited playing time with the team. 
  • Carlos Gomez went 1-for-3 and probably isn't going anywhere.
* - Might or might not actually be what you're thinking.

Comment 67 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

or choose not to

he’s making good decisions afterall
no sense ruining that streak

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 21, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

indeed

I’m watching the Nats and the Reds do sort of meh on ESPN. I get this feeling that if Stephen Strasburg pitched for the Brewers his ERA would be over 9 and he’d walk about 5 guys a game. (He’s got the inclination in that direction, so any more bad luck would totally screw it up for him.)

by morineko on Jul 21, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only 9 runs per game? On the Brewers?

Damn, that guy is good.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 21, 2010 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey, remember when we used to get excited about playing the pirates?

i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!

by sowingwildoats on Jul 21, 2010 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Kyle why must your 'logic' be the urine in my Cheeriohs?

Can I not dream?

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jul 21, 2010 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Those were your cheerios?

My bad. I thought I was in Chris’s house. I must’ve gotten lost after putting the screws in Mykenk’s oatmeal.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 21, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

...

Clearly, I’m not on top of my game right now.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 21, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those historically bad outings essentially mean

Macha doesn’t want a repeat of last year, when the bullpen was absolutely fried by August. So he’s leaving starters in to get hammered – can’t say I blame him.

by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 21, 2010 8:59 PM CDT reply actions  

i vote to change the header of the BCB

because it is getting pretty bad.

i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!

by sowingwildoats on Jul 21, 2010 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

agreed

Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 21, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Since DM seconded the motion

I make the motion we bring it to the floor for a vote

"It's a joke. It's all a joke.

by WSB Chris on Jul 21, 2010 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

BrewCrewBall-

Where its gotten so bad, we’re letting Dikembe talk about the Bucks and pinkeye.

Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 21, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Flagged.

Never a good time to talk NBA.

http://www.twitter.com/mykenk

by Mykenk on Jul 21, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brew Crew Ball -

Where the brews and the Crew are both ice cold.

by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 21, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

unfortunately

to maintain our search engine rank, Milwaukee Brewers needs to be in the title

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2010 6:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Brew Crew Ball

Where at least we pee in urinals like human beings.

by Zorakathura on Jul 21, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Brew Crew Ball

Where “good news” can only mean trading away the Brewers’ best players

by ecocd on Jul 21, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dislike

flagged

Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 21, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually, tied...

"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10

by MadtownTim on Jul 22, 2010 2:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Alphabetized.

http://www.twitter.com/mykenk

by Mykenk on Jul 22, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Brew Crew Ball

Because a bad day at the office is better than a bad day of Milwaukee Brewers baseball.

Where we are the face and the Milwaukee Brewers are the palm.

Because even when the Milwaukee Brewers are failures, nullacct is awesome.

Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.

by Yar Nivek on Jul 21, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looking at Fangraphs, this is utter garbage

Wolf will solidify his spot as having the 2nd worst xFIP of all NL pitchers with at least 60 IP. Dave Bush currently sits at 6th worst. Jeff Suppan who admittedly got a quick hook in Milwaukee will now move ahead of Wolf to be the 3rd worst pitcher in the NL with at least 60 IP. I think they’ll all have to work to catch John Lannan currently the worst pitcher who’s since be demoted to AA.

I’m glad Capuano is back in the bullpen. He might, you know, be better than the 2nd worst pitcher in the NL. We wouldn’t want that. Maybe it’s all a conspiracy to keep his value low so they can sign him in the offseason to start in 2011.

Given that Macha and DM are extremely likely to lose their jobs this offseason at this point, why can’t they just say “f*ck it” and move Wolf to the bullpen?

by ecocd on Jul 21, 2010 9:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Random DL stint for wolf?

“elbow tightness” or something, so they can simultaneously use that as the reason for suckage and give him a break.

by Jeo on Jul 21, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a follow-up, I express my ignorance as to xFIP

Wolf’s xFIP, in fact, went down from 5.22 to 5.20 after last night’s debacle. My only explanation is that PNC must be a really, really homer-friendly park.

This actually makes some sense, because the move was so tiny. When a pitcher is that bad, it’s pretty hard to quantify anything worse. When he’s already at 5.22, it’s already predicting a potential catastrophic start to even just keep that level. Did the general consensus on Wolf being a bad pitcher change last night? We knew he was giving up a metric f*cktonne of HRs and last night … he gave up a metric f*cktonne of HRs.

The difference between a 13.50 ERA and a 14.00 ERA is practically meaningless. They’re both terrible.

by ecocd on Jul 22, 2010 7:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Brew Crew Ball -

Where the unit of measure for Milwaukee Brewers’ HRA is metric f*cktonnes.

by CoreySLC on Jul 22, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

maybe during the offseason

doug has plans to talk to another small-market GM and say “look, you help us win the world series this year by trading us your best players. Then we’ll give you all of our good players in the offseason.”

It’s like a band supergroup

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 22, 2010 6:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just want to say that, as a fan since I was little (late 80s), I’m starting to settle back into the old Brewers fan routine of expecting little, receiving less. It holds off the depression.

Bettman's Nightmare: Until Recently, the Biggest C**block in the NHL

http://bettmansnightmare.blogspot.com/

by Bettman's Nightmare on Jul 21, 2010 11:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Blame it on the police…they handed out Brewers cards at school.

Bettman's Nightmare: Until Recently, the Biggest C**block in the NHL

http://bettmansnightmare.blogspot.com/

by Bettman's Nightmare on Jul 22, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

As I have stated before

I use drugs to stave off the depression lots and lots of drugs ;)

"It's a joke. It's all a joke.

by WSB Chris on Jul 22, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

The more games I watch

It’s getting hard to justify firing Macha to me. I mean, what can the guy do when every pitcher he sends out gets hammered? I feel bad for the guy.

Doug Melvin on the other hand….

Goooooo-mez!

by Drew C on Jul 22, 2010 12:14 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

My response to this:

Why not fire Macha? He isn’t going to be there next year. Why not let the next year guy get used to the players when there is no pressure to win.

by BrewCrewBrian on Jul 22, 2010 7:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Have they even identified who the "next guy" is going to be?

It makes sense to do what you’ve stated only if they know who’s going to take over.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 22, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Which is why they need to figure out who is going to take over next year…

Are they counting on grabbing someone who just got fired?

by BrewCrewBrian on Jul 22, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Brew Crew Ball is dedicated to providing a friendly atmosphere for intelligent Brewer conversation. Click here to view our Posting Guide and Community Guidelines.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Nohuddleblueew9_small
BP C'mon Back Club
Small
Help- How to "Cut the Cable" and Watch Live Games
Barrelman_small
BCB Advanced Stat Pseudofantasy League - PART II
Small
Interview with a Former Brewer Part Two
Small
Catching Up With a Former Brewer
Barrelman_small
BCB Advanced Stat Pseudofantasy League
People_studying_small
Does Fielder's Contract Outdo Pujols'?
Dr-teeth_small
Fielder: It's all about health
Barrelman_small
NPB Position Players
Braun
2012 Payroll Early Estimate

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

NL Central Standings

W L PCT GB STRK
Chicago 0 0 .000 0 Lost 0
Cincinnati 0 0 .000 0 Lost 0
Houston 0 0 .000 0 Lost 0
Milwaukee 0 0 .000 0 Lost 0
Pittsburgh 0 0 .000 0 Lost 0
St. Louis 0 0 .000 0 Lost 0

(updated 2.13.2012 at 7:02 PM CST)


Moderators

Newavatar_small Kyle Lobner

146_-_street_map_plaza_from_pop_tower_with_bars-tiltshift_small TheJay

Communist_party_small Jordan M

X1pxoywqu4sjf73f7drxq2lmqys7mzsyx7pa9necepiffk_ewcuwmuazb-o17ukmbriclcdkn4lk-4xposaawiq4j8hzdsccpjwatqpz2o2p-i0nnqjlyt7pmytaycsaknszvaktpshtcu9sjle1qchlw_1__small NoahJ

Hikaru_50_small morineko

Picture_069_small Nicole Haase

Gogol_bordello_small BrewHaHeather

Anon-md_small Rubie Q