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by Kyle Lobner on Jul 30, 2010 9:51 AM CDT
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The final 24 hours before the trade deadline are generally a pretty exciting time, but the Brewers are working hard to limit your expectations. Doug Melvin has reportedly pulled Prince Fielder and Corey Hart off the market, telling opposing GMs he still feels like he has a team with a chance to contend. (FanShot)
I think many/most of us will be disappointed if the Brewers fail to make a move between now and tomorrow's deadline, but Jaymes Langrehr of The Brewers Bar isn't among us: He took a look at the return other sellers are getting and concluded the Brewers need to stay away from this market.
The Brewers open a series in Houston tonight, and now have half a day to get ready for a new starting pitcher. Roy Oswalt was scheduled to pitch for the Astros tonight, but the Brewers will instead face J.A. Happ, making his debut just one day after being acquired from the Phillies.
John Axford remains one of this season's lone bright spots. Adam McCalvy reminds us of his unusual road to the big leagues.
Rickie Weeks is another bright spot, and Miller Park Drunk reminds us that he's been on the bandwagon since the beginning.
Meanwhile, "What's Wrong With Ryan Braun?" is starting to become a daily feature. Brewers Daily notes that Braun is hitting just .236/.268/.401 since May 10th.
I'm not sure that using the home run as a primary source of offense is that terrible of a strategy in and of itself, but it does create statistics like this one: Tom Haudricourt noted that the Brewers are 42-30 when they hit a home run, and 6-25 when they don't.
They're also 0-1 when giving up 450 foot grand slams to Brandon Phillips. That shot was Wezen-ball's Home Run of the Day for Wednesday.
In the minors:
- Wisconsin Sports Tap has a great position-by-position breakdown of Brewers in the minors in this week's Farm Report. It's a little scary how bare the cupboard has gotten at catcher and shortstop.
- The affiliates went 2-3 yesterday. One of those wins came in Helena, where third baseman Greg Hopkins hit a walkoff home run in the 15th inning to propel the H-Brewers to a 10-8 win over Great Falls. You can read about that and more in today's Minor League Notes.
- Helena managed to win in extra innings despite blowing an 8-0 lead.
Doug Davis hasn't contributed much to the Brewers this season, but at least he's contributing to the community: Caitlin Moyer has the details on his upcoming bowling outing, to raise money for the Miracle League of Milwaukee.
On power rankings:
- Beyond the Box Score has the Brewers at 21, down five spots.
- Yahoo has the Brewers at 21, up one spot.
As for the SBN Wisconsin Hall of Fame:
- Anonymous Eagle closed out their nominations with George Thompson and Al McGuire.
- Bucky's 5th Quarter nominated Pat Richter.
Around baseball:
Astros: Acquired J.A. Happ and two minor leaguers from the Phillies for Roy Oswalt, and acquired first baseman Brett Wallace from the Blue Jays for one of the minor leaguers.
Dodgers: Designated reliever Jack Taschner for assignment.
Orioles: Are expected to announce on Monday that Buck Showalter has been hired to manage the team.
Padres: Acquired infielder Miguel Tejada from the Orioles for a minor leaguer.
Pirates: Released reliever Brendan Donnelly.
Rangers: Acquired infielder Jorge Cantu and cash from the Marlins for two minor leaguers, and placed second baseman Ian Kinsler on the DL with a groin strain.
Tigers: Designated 1B/3B Jeff Larish for assignment.
Twins: Acquired closer Matt Capps from the Nationals for catcher Wilson Ramos and a minor leaguer.
The Mets are 4-10 since the All Star break and have fallen 6.5 games back of the Braves in the NL East, so their desperation is understandable: Ron Hart of Associated Content says they've contacted the Brewers to request permission to fire Willie Randolph again.
I haven't been devoting much time to the ownership/bankruptcy situation in Texas, because most of the daily reports are much ado about nothing. With that said, this story could have some interesting ramifications: The Rangers still owe $42 million in deferred compensation to five players, most of it to Alex Rodriguez and Kevin Millwood. If the team somehow manages to avoid paying those debts, don't be surprised if the MLBPA makes a move to attempt to curtail deferred money in future contracts.
Elsewhere in baseball economics: Here's a telling note on how bad attendance issues are for the Rays: They have baseball's second best record and they've made a World Series appearance recently, but this weekend's series with the Yankees will be the first time they've ever sold out three straight regular season home games.
Speaking of home games, the Padres won last night to improve their all time home record to 1656-1656, the first time they've been at or above .500 since they were 8-8.
The Padres' bench coach is former Brewer Ted Simmons, who Baseball Past and Present named one of the Ten Most Underrated Baseball Players of All-Time.
On this day in 2001, the Brewers traded David Weathers to the Cubs for Ruben Quevedo and outfielder Peter Zoccolillo.
Happy birthday today to:
- Wisconsin Timber Rattler D'Vontrey Richardson, who turns 22.
- 1992 Brewer Scott Fletcher, who turns 52.
- Former Milwaukee Braves minority owner, Brewers owner and major league commissioner Bud Selig, who turns 76.
Now, if you'll excuse me, the countdown has started. (h/t Jay Jaffe)
Drink up.
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@cst_sox: Hold off on the Jackson trade folks, KW has something big cooking and if he gets it done Jackson trade is off.
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Fate decided by an omelette?
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
This Jackson trade looks ridiculous.
The prospect they would send to Arizona is ALREADY in the big leagues, and pitching better than Jackson.
Also, in the MLB.com article it says next up would be Arizona moving “closer” Chad Qualls. Aaron Heilman was closer for a while, but he lost the job to Gutierez. Qualls is as much a closer right now as Trevor Hoffman, and is currently a much worse pitcher. Hoffman has been lowering his ERA for a while, Qualls is maintaining an ERA over 8.
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It's more that
the nationals want Jackson (for whatever reason), and the White Sox want Dunn. I’d be surprised if this wasn’t a 3-way.
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Agree
That seems to be the most logical thing. I don’t understand why the Nats would rather have Jackson over Hudson.
Get a ife broseph
What the hell?
BtC, I just want to know the surplus value on this…I’d think that Hudson for Jackson straight up would be a losing move. But throwing in another player? Come on….
I hate Ozzie Guillen and the White Sox after their “miracle” world series win contingent on umpiring mistakes, and the fawning Joe Morgan praising their “small ball”. Thankfully, with Kenny Williams and Ozzie Guillen I shouldn’t have to worry about them being relevant for a while.
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Edwin Jackson
Ive got him at a surplus value of about $13 million. This considers salary of 1.4 and 8.4 next year, with a WAR of 1 more this year and 2.7 next year, along with type A compensation as an FA after next year. If he’s type b, its 2.5 less and type zero another $2.5 down.
Hudson isnt listed among BA’s top 50 mid season, but he started the year at #66 and he is having a decent season, so he probably hovers in that 50-75 range for next year, value of approximately $11 million. He probably winds up with too many innings at year end to be considered a prospect anymore, but this is probably where he would have wound up if he was still a rookie/prospect. That value maybe comes down a bit since a year of service time is being burned (I think) but $11 million is a pretty fair estimate.
And for Holmberg, profiles as a #4 probably with high 80s fastball and good secondary stuff. Sickels had him graded as a C+ at the beginning of the year and his results probably dont merit a higher grade at this point. He’s a long way away from MLB, value of about $2 million.
On the face of it is a pretty even trade. But if you throw Adam Dunn into the equation it gets a little worse for the Sox, but only about $1 million. 10% premium on those guys is expected. Ive got Dunn at a surplus value of about $9 million.
Well, that settles one debate
If the White Sox were willing to trade Hudson and another player for Jackson, then it’s relatively likely they would’ve been willing to deal Hudson for Hart.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Jul 30, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
Also, sounds like the Dunn part of the deal is held up because he’s at the movies.
http://www.twitter.com/mykenk
I so hope that's true
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So do I
@ Washingnats: As of 1:12 p.m. ET, #Nats 1B Adam Dunn is at the movies and has not been told anything — traded or extension. #MLB.com
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Special showing of Trading Places, I'm sure.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 30, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Shit, I'd go watch that
My dad likes to talk about how his college roommate went to see it when it came out, then came back and told everyone they have to see it, ’cause, “Jamie Lee Curtis takes her top off FOR NO REASON!!”
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Yep
In fact they probably couldnt have gotten more, maybe even Hudson and Viciedo.
Wasnt DM talking to the Sox about Fielder though? Maybe KW just has a higher premium on the big basher type than for a guy like Hart. But if KW offered up anything close to that for Hart, DM should not only be fired, he should be flogged.
I think this makes the Brewers front office look good
They weren’t very high on Dan Hudson, and apparently neither are the White Sox because they’ve been doing everything they can the past few days to unload him. If an organization is willing to trade a guy for the major league leader in earned runs (Jackson), I’m kind of glad we didn’t get him.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
That said, it's Kenny Williams who traded him away
Kenny Williams reminds me of Charlie in that episode of It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia where they have a scheme to sell gasoline and they tell him he’s the “wild card”.
“The brakes on the van aren’t working…” “That’s ’cause I cut the brakes. Wild card, bitches!!!”
“We just traded a promising young pitcher for Edwin Jackson.” “WILD CARD, BITCHES!!”
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by Lefti on Jul 30, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
i had to look that up
rec’d for the laughs
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
So did everyone enjoy the day off?
I personally went to EAA and did not think of the Crew for the whole day amazing how cathartic that can be sometimes.
My only goal for the season is to still finish above .500 no more no less
Hopefully we can right the ship in 2011 when all that salary comes off the books
See you all tonight in the game thread
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
Levels of contentedness
1) Brewers Win World Series
2) Brewers Make the Postseason
3) Brewers finish above .500
4) Brewers finish above the Cubs
Note that 3 and 4 could be flipped depending upon personal preference. This year, it’s likely if they accomplish 3 they’ll accomplish 4.
5) Brewers tank and finish with a really high pick in next year's superb 2011 draft
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
could also happen
But my guess is they will screw that up like the Pack did when they won the last game of the season costing them the right to draft Troy Akimen
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
Aikman
Was a good QB on a great team. At the time they had the Majik man who was a decent QB at the time. Who knows if the Packers did get Aikman, they probably wouldn’t have gotten Favre.
Even with the #2 pick in the ’89 draft, they still had their chance at getting Barry Sanders.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
If they had traded away Fielder and Hart
for prospects, they would have helped their cause for that one.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Melvin
Gets the Gas Face if he thinks the team is still in contention and that they are buyers at the trade deadline.
That Oswalt trade to the Phillies is a steal for Houston. They get a middle of the rotation starter, a top prospect to take over 1B after Berkman gets dealt, and they wind up saving themself about $12 million. Best trade of the season so far.
Really?
Most people I’ve seen commenting on it have said it might be a decent return if they hadn’t kicked in salary, but considering that they did, it really has to be seen as a disappointment. In particular, they didn’t get anyone who profiles as a future star. Happ’s upside is middle of the rotation starter, and post-injury he might be less; Wallace is so bad defensively that he’ll have to be awesome offensively to be above average, and he doesn’t walk enough to suggest that’s the case, and Villar has potential, but seems like he won’t ever be good enough offensively to amount to much. Granted, I’m pretty much just relying on what I heard from Fangraphs for this, but I definitely haven’t heard anyone else saying this was a “steal” from Houston; at best, it’s believed they got fair value.
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Oswalt
Has a surplus value of about $15 million, whether his 2012 option is excercised or not,. Wallace as a top 50 hitting prospect is worth $20mm, Happ probably another $8 or so, add in even just $1mm for Villar and you have the Astros coming out ahead on this trade by about $14 million and also consider they also save themselves $12 million in the future on not having to pay Oswalt anymore.
Is Wallace really a top 50 hitting prospect though?
A lot of people have seemed to sour on him lately. Furthermore, the money they owed Oswalt was already included in the calculation of his surplus value, so if you try to include that in their return, you’re double-counting. Does calculating his surplus as $15 MM include the $11 MM of salary they’re kicking in?
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Yes
And “eh” BA still has Wallace down in their top 50, and that is as a 1B. He’s hitting over .300 in AAA with an .860 OPS, I wouldnt be too soured on that.
His team has an OPS of .838
Hitters park in a hitters league. I’ve heard the MLE is a .656 OPS (bottom comment here: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-roy-oswalt-trade-houstons-perspective/ )
To be clear, I’m a bit out of my depth with a lot of prospect stuff, and I don’t claim to have all the answers here, I’m just trying to relay what I’ve been reading elsewhere, and it sounds like there are a lot of question marks on Wallace.
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He’s hitting 291/.342/.467 outside of Vegas.
The top 50 ranking is mostly from his college and post-draft hype. A’s were smart to flip him and looks like the Jays have realized his ceiling as well. I read something that said he’s been battling injuries, so that might explain the drop in production.
Its a good get for Houston, but doesn’t make the deal a “steal” from their perspective.
Get a ife broseph
Disagree
Wallace profiles as an average 1B, he would be better off trying to play 3B again. His stock has fallen considerably the last year.
Happ is at best a 4th or 5th starter who gives up a lot of HR – now has to go play at a very tough park for LHP who give up HRs, and is coming off an injury.
Get a ife broseph
The Wallace trade was good, the Oswalt trade was atrocious
I guess if you combine them it’s only slightly bad.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
Also:
That Venter’s guy’s suspension was canceled and his fine was reduced upon appeal. Cue outrage.
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The entire suspension?
MLB is a joke. They’ve now set an official precedent that intentionally hitting batters with 90+ mph pitches is only a fine. This means that, for the most part, there is no official penalty. I’m not sure if this will get attention in the clubhouses, but you have to believe bullpens know.
I’ve now reversed my long-time stand that it’s dumb to retaliate. I am now in favor of vigilante justice. Good job MLB. Rot in hell.
Don't forget...
He initially threw at his head, got warned by the umpire, then proceeded to still hit him with a shoulder-high throw.
I’d like to hear the explanation for not giving him a suspension whatsoever.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
He has terrible control, he does it all the time
Hey, that flew in Atlanta.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
Right.
Can’t wait to see them pull that kind of crap against someone like Milton Bradley… who’ll have no problem with charging the mound.
BTW – I’m pretty sure Hawkins can be wild from time-to-time. I wonder if one such occasion will happen the next time we play the Braves.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
TheJay bait
Who was the last guy to throw a no-hitter and get traded in the same season?
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Well, Mike Witt threw the final two innings of a no-hitter in 1990 before being traded
But I’m sure that’s not what you meant.
Jim Bibby threw a no-hitter after being traded in 1973.
Steve Barber is the closest I can find for you before giving up. He threw 8 2/3 innings of no-hit ball for Baltimore in 1967 but was pulled in the ninth after allowing two runs in the inning. Stu Miller finished the game but the Orioles lost 2-1. Barber was traded to the Yankees later that year.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
Wow, so this hasn't happened in over 40 years
if ever. Damn.
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Yeah, it might have happened before 1968
But I figure I should do some real work this afternoon.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
Just to clarify
Barber & Miller did combine for a no-hitter. Barber walked three that inning (10 in the game, take that Edwin!) and two runners scored, one on a wild pitch and one on a fielder’s choice. Barber managed to hit two guys as well. To be fair, one of his walks was intentional.
Barber pitched for the Seattle Pilots but was released before the 1970 season. He was later traded to the Brewers after the 1973 season but was released in spring training 1974. I guess he just wasn’t destined for Milwaukee.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
h/t AZ Snakepit.
Lefty Chambers pitched a no-hitter in May 1951 for Pittsburgh, and then went to St. Louis. He had 8 walks in his no-hitter, too.
But I’ve found at least three pitchers- Jim Bibby for the Rangers, Sal Maglie for the Brooklyn Dodgers, and Don Cardwell for the Cubs- who were traded and then threw no-hitters. Cardwell was traded from the Cardinals, and then pitched a no-hitter in his first start, against the Cardinals.
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And this thread is like a ghost town
I’m so bored I’m actually doing work at work. That’s not cool!
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Better to do nothing than to watch Fielder be traded for Joe Saunders or JA Happ, I suppose
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
I suppose
but still. Sell or buy. Is anyone really content with the team as it is except for the FO? Or really, is there nothing out there that will help us now or in the future?
Alternatively, is it some non-working holiday in Canada?
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I'm content with the team as it is
if the alternative is getting a big pile of shit for Fielder or Hart
by warwick5s on Jul 30, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
A much better way of putting what I was trying to say
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Right right right
agreed 100%. I just like the combination of Melvin’s “We’re too close in contention to sell” argument (which admittedly is probably posturing) with not doing anything at the deadline. That means that not only does he think that we’re in contention, he thinks we’re in contention with the current team. Either way, he’s wrong.
Given that he’s probably posturing, it doesn’t matter, it’s just an interesting combination of quotes/actions.
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The only way I can continue to have respect for Melvin
(and I do currently have respect for him), is to assume that that was posturing/lost in translation/not an actual accurate representation of what his line of thinking is. I do think he’s a legitimately good GM, but if he’s honestly not trading because he thinks we’re in contention, that make me have to completely change my opinion of him.
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Was it determined that was in fact Melvin's argument
Or is it still through some other nameless executive?
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
If the Brewers buy
I’ll be throwing a fit. If they legitimately can’t get a return that’s worth a damn right now, I want them to sell. That said, if Fielder walks after 2011 and all we get is two compensation picks, I’m going to be pretty pissed off. Flipping him for a solid return in the offseason will make up for this deadline, I hope.
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I'm not content with the current team
But it really does look like this winter will be the best time to trade Prince. If nothing happens in the offseason and we limp into 2011 with the exact same squad only with some other crappy FA pitcher slotted in for Davis/Bush, then I’ll be angry.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
No doubt
I’m alternating between anger, frustration, and depression. It’s the trade deadline, and if anything should be obvious it’s that this is the last chance to change a team that does not have the personnel to win. If you think otherwise, you should be fired. If you accept that, then you are left with only (a) trade to make a run, or (b) trade to make your team better for next year.
I need to print up more fliers so the other GMs can wake up sleepy Dougy and make some offers
by nullacct on Jul 30, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
It's only the last chance for this season.
For next season, there’s still the offseason.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
it's not even the last chance of the season
we still have another month to trade to a contender and the rest of the season to trade to anyone (that doesn’t impact the playoff roster)
All we got to do is place ’em on waivers and hash out a deal within 2 days.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Why we feel so down when the Crew ain't jackin' HRs
Tom Haudricourt noted that the Brewers are 42-30 when they hit a home run, and 6-25 when they don’t.
More often than not the Crew faces very good pitching or unfamiliar pitching – not situations that are fertile for home runs. A team with good home run potential and so-so pitching is destined for middle of the pack status.
I’m guessing that we’ll see better performances from some key folks as the summer progresses. Let’s enjoy the fireworks on the days when the good Crew shows up.
That said, if Trev hadn’t blown those saves early on…
Statistics: A bunch of numbers looking around for an argument. G. Burgy, Rockville, MD
by heybatterbatter on Jul 30, 2010 3:26 PM CDT reply actions
Sorry for all the "emphasis." I'm not on any new drugs...
Statistics: A bunch of numbers looking around for an argument. G. Burgy, Rockville, MD
by heybatterbatter on Jul 30, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
you guys should have asked me
I “had” to do that a few weeks ago:P
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, between Gallardo and the rest of the suck
It’s like the guy with his head in the oven and his feet in the freezer: on average, he’s doing just fine
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by Lefti on Jul 30, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well I guess one other NL team has given up more runs than the Brewers...
So they got that going for them.
Get a ife broseph
To Pitch for the milwaukee Brewers, you MUST:
1. Own “plus” fastball velocity
2. Throw a quality breaking pitch
3. Have “solid arm action and delivery”
4. Be 6-foot-2 or taller
In other words, Doug Melvin has officially been replaced by Captain Obvious.
http://www.twitter.com/mykenk
I think I like Captain Obvious better
Suppan/Hoffman/Wolf all fail those tests.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
Yep
Do we have any that meet all of them? I guess I’m not a delivery expert, so I might fail more people than fair at point 3.
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Some top pitching prospects also meet that criteria...
Jeremy Jeffress, Jake Odorizzi, Wily Peralta, Mark Rogers and Kyle Heckathorn.
The question should really be… did they actually have this criteria before or did they take a look at what they had and put that list together. In other words, is this actually their plan or is it just something for the media to lap up.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Basically our entire draft class was taller than 6'2"
I think this applies more to developing pitchers, than signing them.
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Shane Nance finally knows why he was cut
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
Glad McCalvy let DM write that article
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Jul 30, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
damn...
I’m an inch short. do my cleat extensions count?
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 30, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
no wonder the Brewers didn't try trading for Oswalt
too short. I guess this also means that Tim Lincecum will never be a Brewer.
Can we at least trade Edmonds?
The Red Sox are supposed to be interested and I don’t really see the point of keeping him around the rest of the year.
Interested
doesn’t mean to the point where it’d be worth it to trade him.
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at this point in time
I’d take a couple million in cash.
the season is tanked. may as well put money in the bank for next season.
by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 31, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
more importantly, it'd give us a chance to give Cain regular playing time at the big league level.
Then again, he’d be splitting time with Gomez, so I guess it doesn’t make a difference either way.
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