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Astros 5, Brewers 0

The Astros have shipped off Roy Oswalt and Lance Berkman in the last 36 hours, but they still dominated the Brewers tonight.

W: J.A. Happ (2-0, first win as an Astro)
L: Manny Parra (3-8)

HR: Jason Michaels (6), Chris Johnson (4), Jeff Keppinger (5)

MVP: Rickie Weeks (+.071)
LVP: Manny Parra (-.182)

Win Expectancy Graph and Star of the Game Voting
SB Nation Coverage

If you skipped tonight's game, congratulations. You made the right decision. 

The Brewers were unable to get anything going against J.A. Happ and the Astros connected for two home runs off of Manny Parra to account for nearly all of the Astros' offense. Coming into tonight's game, the Astros were last in the NL in home runs. When you throw them pitches like this one (the 2-0 fastball that Chris Johnson turned into a three-run shot), though, most major league hitters can still hit it out. David Riske joined the fun by allowing a solo shot to Jeff Keppinger in the eighth.

All told, Parra allowed four earned runs on four hits and three walks in 5.1 innings of work, striking out six. His line actually would have looked significantly worse if not for great defensive plays by Ryan Braun and Rickie Weeks. One of the relievers to follow Parra to the mound was LaTroy Hawkins, who allowed a leadoff double but nothing else in the seventh inning.

At the plate, the Brewers were only able to get two hits off J.A. Happ over his six innings (and four overall), and one of them was a double to lead off the game by Rickie Weeks. Corey Hart went 0-for-3 with a walk in his first game back in the lineup, and Prince Fielder and Ryan Braun were also held hitless. Casey McGehee had the Brewers' lone 2-hit night.

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Thanks, Casey, for two hits. Player of the Game.

Statistics: A bunch of numbers looking around for an argument. G. Burgy, Rockville, MD

by heybatterbatter on Jul 30, 2010 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

radio says

should have had 3 hits: he reached on a non-error

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 31, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure how you can call that play an error.

I’m not sure how people can call that a hit that should have been a double. A statue managed to get over there and put himself in a position where he should have made the play.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 31, 2010 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

That Parra Guy

He isn’t very good, is he?

by Cynthia2 on Jul 30, 2010 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Did you notice the whole team?

Hey, I know Cynthia1? Would you be related to him?

Statistics: A bunch of numbers looking around for an argument. G. Burgy, Rockville, MD

by heybatterbatter on Jul 30, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't he dead?

Cynthia1 I mean. That Parra guy is still breathing, I think.

by Cynthia2 on Jul 30, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

And on the night before Packers training camp open...

1) Doug Melvin allegedly said we were contending and pulled back his best trade bait.
2) Gord Ash denied that Doug had pulled people off the table, but reiterated that nothing was happening.
3) Fielder and Braun went 0 for 8000 with men on base.
4) The Brewers, spared the fate of facing the Astros ace by a trade, got shut out by a club that has clearly written off the remainder of the season and perhaps the next two years anyway.

Folks, this seasons been boxed up and is ready for shipping. The ‘Stros just put the packing tape on the box, and it’s time to drop it in the Fed Ex box. I was thinking about taking the family down for another series again this year, but I don’t think I can justify it anymore. I, for one, am ready for some football.

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 30, 2010 9:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Football, yuck.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 30, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Melvin HAS to see the writing on the wall with this team

Weeks is the only one who doesnt seem to be “mailing it in”. If he thinks that the team can still contend either this year or next, the lackluster attitude should remove that notion for him. 9 games under .500 and 9 1/2 games out of first place….he’s either being instructed to not trade Fielder/Hart/Edmonds, whoever has been inquired about by his superior, or he’s completely clueless or doesnt care. No action by him during now and the end of August is criminal, and would end his reign as GM on about 29 different MLB teams.

by backtocali on Jul 30, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

What move would he make between now and the end of August?

Nobody is willing to pony up for Hart/Fielder right now. This winter will determine how well Melvin does improving the team for 2011.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 30, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

All depends on point of view

I and some others that would rather take a long term perspective believe that there has to be a deal out there from the Rays or the Giants for Fielder, and the Rays, Tigers, White Sox, Giants or Padres for Hart.

He’s not going to get MLB ready, or on the roster pitching for either one of those guys, and he really doesnt need to be looking for that. And even if he got what he wanted, it doesnt make the Brewers a playoff team next year.

If he took the longer range approach, and took the riskier, yet higher reward package of prospects with huge upside, he can build for 2012 and beyond. That philosophy is working out very well right now for the Rangers.

by backtocali on Jul 30, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only way that works for the brewers

is if they trade for these long term guys, and fire every single person working in the minor leagues at the same time.

http://www.twitter.com/mykenk

by Mykenk on Jul 30, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

So am I

difference between us? I live in reality.

http://www.twitter.com/mykenk

by Mykenk on Jul 30, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that in California?

What begins in fear usually ends in folly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jul 30, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's somewhere in the state of euphoria

Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.

by theBrouhaha on Jul 31, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was thinking more along the lines

of a few guys in the Rays system who are currently in A ball.

by backtocali on Jul 30, 2010 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Single A?

That’s disgusting to me.

Yeah, well, sometimes I drink.

by Dikembe Meiztombo on Jul 31, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

You should be more disgusted

That the Brewers have zero impact arms in their farm system right now.

The 3 guys I had in mind would all have immediately become the best pitching prospects in the organization.

by backtocali on Jul 31, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rangers

Feliz has 1.0 WAR, Andrus has 1.3 WAR. Other than that they don’t have any young guys making impact – am I missing something?

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 31, 2010 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Plenty of bad GMs have kept their jobs through worse malfeasance

Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.

by TheJay on Jul 30, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I will mimic DM’s lack of activity and stay away from Miller Park for the remainder of the year, if he’s not interested in putting an improved product on the field, I’m not buying.

He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…

by jarlbartar on Jul 30, 2010 11:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Happ

He picked up the win Roy Oswalt couldn’t get to tie the franchise record.

Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.

by TheJay on Jul 30, 2010 10:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Phil Cuzzi will be behind the plate tomorrow

Can’t wait

Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.

by TheJay on Jul 30, 2010 10:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Bush is 3-1 with a 1.185 WHIP when Cuzzi umps

Not that it means anything, Bush is the ump aggrivator this year

by nullacct on Jul 30, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Phil Cuzzi is a menace.

Phil Cuzzi must be stopped.

SRS BSNS

by Rubie Q on Jul 31, 2010 7:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I don't get many Brewers games

Down here in OK, so when they play the Astros I really look forward to it. I guess I shouldve planned to do something else tonight…

Goooooo-mez!

by Drew C on Jul 30, 2010 10:50 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Tom H is feeling the depression

As the trade deadline approaches and we take stock of our team

How much longer are the Brewers going to allow Carlos Gomez to waste at-bats that Lorenzo Cain could be getting? It’s an absolute shame.
Brewers 1B Prince Fielder has no RBI in last 7 games, 1 RBI in last 10 and only 46 for season. Little wonder no team has overbid for him.
Brewers LF Ryan Braun is batting .196 for the month of July, dropping his overall average to .273, a season low. He is really struggling.

by nullacct on Jul 30, 2010 10:51 PM CDT reply actions  

I feel more sad about this team/situation than I did in 02

I mean it wasn’t going to get worse than that and changes were coming because of that terrible season. Here, though, it appears nothing will happen and we’re back to the Brewers of the mid to late 90’s.

Perhaps when Doug Melvin says he’s looking for major league ready players he should realize that just because they’re in the majors doesn’t mean they can actually play.

I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful

by Michael M on Jul 30, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hart's playing much better than Hammonds did

But aside from that I can’t say this team is a whole lot better.
C: both terrible
1B: Sexson and Fielder about the same
2B/SS: Weeks & Escobar about the same as Hernandez & Young
3B: Houston had less pop than McGehee but higher OPS
LF: Jenkins off-year matches Braun’s off-year
CF: Sanchez > Gomez
RF: Hart awesome, Hammonds not

Ace: Ben Sheets vs. YoGa
2-3-4: Rusch-Wright-Quevedo better WHIP than Narveson-Bush-Wolf
Closer: DeJean vs. Axford

by nullacct on Jul 31, 2010 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Small quibble

2002 catchers had a .599 OPS
2010 catchers have a .733 OPS

Yo is quite a bit better this year than Sheets was in 2002. The 2010 team has a little better pitching depth than 2002 (check out some of the fill-in pitchers that year, yikes), which is the main difference in the pitching staffs.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 31, 2010 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

All true.

But aside from those small differences, and Corey Hart, Doug thinks they can contend for the pennant.

by nullacct on Jul 31, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not really small differences

This team will likely win about 20 more games than that team.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 31, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Brewers just confuse me sometimes. They play so well against the better team out there. But then they lay an egg when the play the basement teams

Facts are stubborn things, but statistics are more pliable. ~Mark Twain

by GB Nordic on Jul 30, 2010 10:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Schadenfreude is all I have left
keithlaw Heard from an exec not involved in the discussions that the White Sox are furious with the Nats over Edwin Jackson.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 30, 2010 11:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Nats GM wins the trade deadline

flips a marginal “closer” for a legit catcher prospect
flips the white sox the bird and sticks them with a garbage pitcher

by warwick5s on Jul 30, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

especially since what do the Nats need with Edwin Jackson? They have SEVEN STARTING PITCHERS on the DL right now, not to mention that there are several non-injured starters on their 40-man roster in AAA and AA. They’re having the “everything must go” sale, so it really doesn’t matter that their rotation at this moment in time consists of Livan Hernandez, 3 quad-A guys, and whatever version of Craig Stammen shows up for work on his start day.

by morineko on Jul 31, 2010 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

So glad my boys talked me into watching Xgames over Brewers game

Shawn White skateboarding was actually pretty cool to watch

"It's a joke. It's all a joke.

by WSB Chris on Jul 31, 2010 12:23 AM CDT reply actions  

We need to get some o' dat happ...

in da bats. No amount of pitching is going to solve the failure in the 3 and 4 hole of late – and pretty much before that, too.

Statistics: A bunch of numbers looking around for an argument. G. Burgy, Rockville, MD

by heybatterbatter on Jul 31, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I were a Milw pitcher, I'd be walking on eggshells

with every at bat. No room for error when your own bats are silent. Hard to be aggressive under thoe circumstances. Richard, Corey, and McGehee together can’t carry this team.

Statistics: A bunch of numbers looking around for an argument. G. Burgy, Rockville, MD

by heybatterbatter on Jul 31, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you watched the location of Manny's pitches

He was all over the place. Walked two batters – and not from not getting the calls, but not being able to hit spots – and forced to throw strikes threw pitches right down the middle. He may have good stuff, but I don’t know where he’s hiding it. He’s terrible.

by nullacct on Jul 31, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Long shot

anybody else going to be at the game today?

by MKEtotheATX on Jul 31, 2010 11:08 AM CDT reply actions  

I feel bad for you

hopefully you are getting drunk right now.

"I've been banging a lot of bratwurst lately".
Uecker during the 8th inning of his first game back

by molitorfan on Jul 31, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

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