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Monday's Frosty Mug

Some things to read while studying.

Brewer fans across Wisconsin are holding their breath this morning as we await word on the severity of Yovani Gallardo's injury. Gallardo left yesterday's start early with a strained oblique (Tom Haudricourt reports it's "around toward the back") and is expected to be reevaluated today.

Even without knowing the severity of the injury, Jaymes Langrehr of The Brewers Bar uses Gallardo's injury as a reason for the Brewers to sell.

Even if Gallardo is healthy enough to make his next start, he'll be pushed back a day. Doug Davis is expected to make his return from the DL on Friday, with the Brewers making the move to a six man rotation if needed in the short term.

Before Gallardo departed he was forced to overcome two fielding errors by Alcides Escobar. Pocket Doppler notes that Escobar's defense has failed to live up to the hype this season.

Meanwhile, the Brewers could have a roster move to announce this morning: Agent Joshua Kusnick is reporting that Lorenzo Cain (one of his clients) has been called up (FanShot). Jordan Schelling notes that the news is only coming from Kusnick, though, and no formal announcement has been made.

Other notes from the field:

Off the field, the biggest news of the day was the All Star selections of Ryan Braun, Corey Hart and Yovani Gallardo (FanShot). This is the fourth straight season the Brewers will have three All Stars. Corey Hart could actually end up starting for the NL, since Jason Heyward is not expected to participate in the game. Hart is also expected to compete in the Home Run Derby (FanShot), marking the fourth straight year a Brewer will compete in the event.

Rickie Weeks will have to wait and see if he's selected as an alternate. NL manager Charlie Manuel selected Braves utility infielder Omar Infante over Weeks, despite the fact that Infante has started just 42 games (compared to Weeks' 81), and has just 45 combined runs and RBI, compared to Weeks 102.

Meanwhile, the news also isn't very good for two Brewers who remain on the DL: Jody Gerut has been taking batting practice for a week now but still can't run on his bruised heel. LaTroy Hawkins has been throwing bullpen sessions but is still a long way off from returning, with Ken Macha saying he'll need "a spring training style rehab" to rebuild his strength.

Jonathan Lucroy went 2-for-3 yesterday, picking up his sixth multi-hit game since joining the team. Dennis Punzel of Madison.com has a look at the Brewers' new backstop and the parade of veterans that came before him.

Kameron Loe allowed a run in an inning of work yesterday, ending his scoreless streak at 12.1 innings. Brewers Daily notes that opposing batters are hitting just .179 on balls put in play off Loe, but thinks he can still be a solid contributor even if he's due for some regression.

It's a quick turnaround today as the Brewers open their series against the Giants with an afternoon contest. We'll have our series preview at noon, but in the meantime Baseball Brew has the list of former Brewers working for the Giants, including Brian Harper.

Another day, another trade rumor note: Torii Hunter is making the case for the Angels to acquire a first baseman, with both Prince Fielder and Adam Dunn mentioned.

In the minors:

If you've been watching Brewer telecasts on FSWisconsin, you're probably familiar with RockBats, which are produced in Antigo. Seven of eight Brewer regulars have started using them, and the Wausau Daily Herald has a look at the people behind the new lumber.

Around baseball:

Astros: Placed infielder Geoff Blum on the DL with loose bodies in his elbow.
Braves: Signed outfielder Willy Taveras to a minor league deal.
Cardinals: Placed outfielder Ryan Ludwick on the DL with a calf strain.
Diamondbacks: Designated Dontrelle Willis for assignment.
Dodgers: Placed Manny Ramirez on the DL with a hamstring strain.
Indians: Placed outfielder Shin-Soo Choo on the DL with a thumb injury. (h/t Let's Go Tribe)
Marlins: Designated infielder Brian Barden for assignment.
Mets: Signed reliever Brian Bruney to a minor league deal.
Nationals: Signed Orlando Hernandez to a minor league deal.
Padres: Placed outfielder Will Venable on the DL with a back strain.
Phillies: Designated infielder Brian Bocock for assignment.
Twins: Placed infielder Matt Tolbert on the DL with an injury to his right middle finger.

If you've lost track, the Braves are Taveras' fourth team this season. He's been released by the A's, Nationals and Phillies.

Some transactions are handled better than others: Catcher Bengie Molina was traded from the Giants to the Rangers last week, and didn't know about the deal until he heard about it from his teammates.

Here's a quick roundup of All Star notes:

Elsewhere in All Star notes: There aren't any Brewers on this list, but the B-Ref blog points out that Milwaukee Braves Hank Aaron and Eddie Mathews were two of just 40 players to be selected to an All Star game before age 22.

I wanted to take a moment this morning to send out best wishes to former Brewer prospect Eric Fryer. He needs surgery after being hit in the face by a pitch while playing for Bradenton in the Pirates organization. Fryer was the Brewers' tenth round pick in 2007 before being sent to the Yankees for Chase Wright.

Happy birthday today and over the weekend to:

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to find a ladder.

Drink up.

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To note that Loe allowed a run yesterday, ending his scoreless streak.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 5, 2010 9:43 AM CDT reply actions  

The angels

just laughed in your face.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 5, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

and if they come at us with anything short of trout

I’d laugh in theirs

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

If the Brewers trade fielder for something other than pitching, I’ll be seriously wondering why Melvin has a job.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 5, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

the return expected for prince

if we don’t get a top hitter AND top pitcher for prince, then melvin should lose his job. The Teixeira deal provides a decent framework

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather take 2 top pitching prospects (AA-AAA)

than a top hitter & a top pitcher. Besides, what’s Trout’s potential? The (admittedly) few things I’ve read sound like Carlos Gomez hype 3-4 years ago.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 5, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

hitting prospects have a better success rate than pitching

and I’m pretty sure the only team with two top young P is the rays, and they won’t pay. Btw…

trout at 18 in the low-A midwest league .362/.441/.531
gomez at 19 in the low-A sally league .275/.331/.376

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I see what you're saying

but low-A stats mean nothing to me.

I just like to temper my expectations for anyone deemed a “5-tool-player” by adding “Like Carlos Gomez”

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 5, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

or corey patterson

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you talking about the Tex deal where the Rangers ripped off the Braves and rebuilt their entire farm?

The same deal that GMs say was one of the biggest rip offs in recent memory?

If Melvin trades Prince, he will get significantly less that the Rangers got for Tex.

Please also keep in mind: Fielder is ok with the glove. Tex is much, much better with it.

by BrewCrewBrian on Jul 5, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Edit

If Melvin trades Prince, he will get less that the Rangers got for Tex

by BrewCrewBrian on Jul 5, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree

but the starting point is the tex trade. If doug pulls 4 qualityprospects, I’ll be happy. If he pulls another carlos lee deal, I want him canned

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with the Carlos Lee deal, IMO.

Though I agree, we shouldn’t be trading him for big-leaguers.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 5, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

laynce nix and kevin mensh are not good return

and neither is a closer. We had the best chip on the market and blew it

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Kevin Mench played like Kevin Mench

it would have been a good return, and you can’t say we didn’t get good value out of Cordero.

Maybe Melvin was frustrated with the fact that zero prospects we trade for ever do anything.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 5, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kevin Mench DID play like kevin Mench

a 4th OF whose numbers were inflated by his home park, and who was out of baseball a year and a half after being an integral part of the lee deal. I’m not saying we didn’t get value out of coco, but to receive value from 1 guy in the trade AND give up a hitting prospect in the deal puts it squarely in the L column

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry, 2 years on mench

I forgot his 1/2 season in TOR

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't count Cruz as a hitting prospect in that deal

he was going nowhere. Sure, in hindsight it looks bad, but giving him up at the time wasn’t really a huge loss, he was a AAAA guy for us.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 5, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

perhaps

still doesn’t make it a good deal

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not so sure about that...

I remember many here on this forum, including myself, being upset that he was included

I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful

by Michael M on Jul 5, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I also remember many other

people figuring he was toast, and then getting pissed when he got good 4 years later.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 5, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree, it's time to sell

There are a lot of good pieces to the puzzle, but I think the Moustache is missing a lot of components to get this team to the next level. With our best pitcher down with what could be a lingering injury, ANY combination of 6 starters we trot out there will give us a .500 ball club – at the very best! SUCK!!!

He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…

by jarlbartar on Jul 5, 2010 10:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Carlos Silva

He laughs at Wainwright’s 99 pitches.

Eagerly awaiting SBN Madison.

by TheJay on Jul 5, 2010 10:51 AM CDT reply actions  

74 pitches?

Jesus…
Take a pitch or two please…

by SgtClueLs on Jul 5, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Two better

Lary Sorensen had a 72 pitch nine inning complete game for the Brewers.

by statsllc on Jul 5, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

just out of curiousity

any complete games not 9 inning with fewer pitches?

ie a 6 inning rainout?

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 5, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

We should trade for Jonathan Sanchez, because he’s yet to allow a run in the 6th inning this year.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 5, 2010 11:00 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

violating self-imposed exile

to post this tidbit.

giants used 9 pitchers in yesterday’s 15 inning loss. Looks to me that it was all pen pitchers (no use of starters in relief)

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 5, 2010 12:01 PM CDT reply actions  

This one is just a head scratcher...

Rickie Weeks will have to wait and see if he’s selected as an alternate. NL manager Charlie Manuel selected Braves utility infielder Omar Infante over Weeks, despite the fact that Infante has started just 42 games (compared to Weeks’ 81), and has just 45 combined runs and RBI, compared to Weeks 102.

Really? Do they drug test coaches? Not saying that Weeks should be the next in line to have that spot, but really? Omar Infante?

by Bush League All Star on Jul 5, 2010 12:58 PM CDT reply actions  

The only case I can see for it

Is that Infante, who can play second, third, short, left and right, allows Manuel to have one emergency position player who can play anywhere and empty the rest of his bench without having to worry about injury or extra innings.

I’m not saying that’s a good reason to pick him, but I can see the logic if that’s the reason.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 5, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah that was some the reason some of the talking heads used to justify the decision.

Hell maybe the guy will win the game for the NL or something! But there are definately players who are more deserving than Infante. Manuel >.<

by Bush League All Star on Jul 5, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Charlie Manual

can barely move on his own, I doubt he made that decision.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 5, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

The MLB FO "strongly encouraged" Charlie Manuel to choose a utility player

due to the fact that with the new rule this year, if someone gets injured after all other position players have been exhausted, Infante would then be able to re-enter the game.

By choosing a utility infielder, he’s covered with all three positions not listed as 1B.

"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10

by MadtownTim on Jul 6, 2010 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

so...

why not go back to your starter at that magic position?

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 6, 2010 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

via Jordan Schelling:

“OF Lorenzo Cain on his way to Milwaukee just in case RHP Yovani Gallardo goes on DL for #Brewers, according to GM Doug Melvin”

Darn, I guess it isn’t that Edmonds for Wainwright trade I was hoping for.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 5, 2010 1:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks!

FanShotted

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 5, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

unrealistic

Edmonds for Pujols makes much more sense. I for one would be willing to put Pujols at SS so that the heart of our order would include Weeks, Hart, Pujols, Braun, and Fielder.

Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.

by theBrouhaha on Jul 5, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

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