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Some things to read while giving your imagination some help.

The news isn't all bad for Yovani Gallardo, but it's not all good either. Gallardo is day-to-day with his strained oblique but won't go on the DL, and Ken Macha thinks he'll be shut down for roughly ten days. Macha also said Gallardo won't pitch in the All Star Game.

So, it's possible all of our discussion about Lorenzo Cain's callup was for naught. Cain was flown to Milwaukee so he could be added to the roster if Gallardo went on the DL, but will now likely return to Nashville. SgtClueLs noted that the Brewers are now 0-1 when teasing fans with him.

There weren't a lot of bright spots for the Brewers in yesterday's game, but Corey Hart was one of them. Hart picked up two hits to extend his hitting streak to 20 consecutive games, a feat only accomplished five times in Brewer history. Amazingly enough, Hart (and his .275 career batting average) now has two of the five.

Dave Bush was also a bright spot: He pitched six innings and allowed just one run on five hits, walking one and striking out four. As has become expected, though, he was removed after 101 pitches. Disciples of Uecker noted some improvement in his performance.

Shortly after Bush departed, the wheels came off. The Giants scored four runs in the sixth off of Kameron Loe, including two unearned runs that scored after another Alcides Escobar error. Escobar is now second in the NL with 14 errors, and Howie Magner wonders if someone slipped him Jose Hernandez's glove.

Other notes from the field:

While the Brewers and Giants play four games on the field this week, there might also be some conversations taking place off the field: Ken Rosenthal is reporting the Brewers have called home all their scouts to discuss trade possibilities, and Giants GM Brian Sabean is in town with the team this week. Andrew Baggarly of the San Jose Mercury News notes that Sabean has a history of working trades out in person.

Here's something I'm guessing they won't discuss in depth: Amy Gutierrez of Comcast Bay Area says the Giants are interested in Ryan Braun. Jeff Fletcher of Bay Bridge Baseball points out how unlikely it is that the Brewers would even consider moving him.

Speaking of Braun, MLBTradeRumors is reporting that he'll earn an extra $50,000 this season for making the All Star team. He's the only one of the three Brewer representatives with a known All Star bonus.

Meanwhile, Bernie's Crew asks what the Brewers should do with the next month. This note might help you make up your mind: In-Between Hops points out that the Brewers would need to go 54-25 the rest of the way to win 91 games, and no Brewer team has ever won 54 of 79 games.

Carlos Gomez went 0-for-3 with a walk yesterday and his OBP now stands at .274. Brew City Sports notes that all five Brewer starting pitchers produced OPSes at least 120 points higher than Gomez in June.

About two months ago, Geoff Jenkins told reporters "the writing's on the wall" concerning his major league career, and apparently he's ready to make it official: Jenkins will sign a one day contract and retire as a Brewer on Friday (FanShot). He'll also throw out the first pitch before that night's game against the Pirates. Brewers Bar has a look at Jenkins' position on the Brewers' all time leaderboards. Jenkins' one-day contract has Craig Calcaterra pondering his retirement plans.

In the minors:

  • On the field, the affiliates went 4-4 last night, as Brevard County and Wisconsin both split doubleheaders (game one of Wisconsin's doubleheader was the completion of Sunday's suspended game). You can read about that and more in today's Minor League Notes.
  • Jeremy Jeffress allowed his first run of the season last night, but still hasn't allowed his first hit. He pitched two innings for Brevard County and allowed the run on two walks. He's now walked five and struck out 19 while starting his season with eleven hitless innings.
  • Jeffress likely won't pitch tonight, but you can listen to the rest of the Manatees on SpaceCoastBaseball.com as they take on Tampa at 6:05.
  • Space Coast Baseball also has a bunch of photos from last night's doubleheader, featuring virtually any Manatee you might be looking for.

For once, the Brewers are last in a stat where you actually want to be in last: Chris Jaffe of The Hardball Times notes that the Brewers' convenience fees ($2.50) are the lowest in baseball. Of course, it still doesn't cost the team $2.50 to produce, print and deliver that ticket, but at least the Brewers aren't gouging fans as much as other teams.

In power rankings:

If you weren't around last night, you might have missed this announcement: The Brew Crew Ball, Acme Packing Company, Anonymous Eagle, Brew Hoop and Bucky's 5th Quarter communities are coming together to form a SBN Wisconsin Hall of Fame, and need your help to select our nominees. Follow that link to help select the Brewers and Milwaukee Braves that will appear on the ballot, then head over to Acme Packing Company to help select the Packers.

Around baseball:

Athletics: Placed outfielder Conor Jackson on the DL with a hamstring strain.
Mariners: Signed pitcher Mark Worrell to a minor league deal.
Mets: Placed first baseman Fernando Tatis on the DL with a shoulder strain.
Rays: Signed reliever Brian Shouse to a minor league deal.
Red Sox: Placed RHP Clay Buchholz on the DL with a hamstring strain.

It's not trade season until we've had our first "done deal" that doesn't get done. Last night a rumor had the Twins acquiring Cliff Lee from the Mariners for two top prospects, but those reports have since been denied.

Here's today's All Star notes:

Happy birthday today to:

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going back to the tub.

Drink up.

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Although I believe everyone is tradeable

No way Braun is going anywhere. Not with that team friendly deal.

The only way he’s going somewhere is if its later in the contract when its starting to get expensive, and he has continued diminished returns on the field. And of course you can never rule out disgruntledness that never gets reported in the press, but thats highly unlikely as well.

by backtocali on Jul 6, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

There could be some truth to it.

I’ve heard occasional rumblings too.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 6, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Like what?

The only thing I can think of is the Deputy Incident.

by NoahJ on Jul 6, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe the same frustration that fans feel.

Small market, talent evaluation/contract gaffes, inept pitching, etc. Is it so hard to believe that the team’s star player wouldn’t see or feel similar frustrations, particularly when the team is performing poorly?

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jul 6, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

For one thing, he's not trying at the plate

I don’t care what anyone says, I’ve been watching the damn games and he isn’t giving his at bats the same effort he has in past seasons. I don’t know if it’s the elbow or the attitude, but if someone has the ability to string together a few at bats from 08-09 and compare them to this year I know you’ll see the difference. He used to be ferocious at the plate, now he’s just pesky.

by nullacct on Jul 6, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is second-hand

Or maybe even third-hand, but I have a friend who is neighbors with one of the Brewers coaches…Apparently the guy (who I won’t name) says Prince is a great guy, but Braun is a prima donna. Again, this plus two bucks gets you on any bus in town.

Steve
http://nohuddleoffense.blogspot.com

by stigmo on Jul 6, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kind of funny

How their contracts would suggest the opposite. Not trying to make any deeper point, just find it interesting.

Brewers Baseball and other assorted nonsense (mostly the assorted nonsense) at my blog, What's a Tararrel?

by Lefti on Jul 6, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tough choice:

Prima Donna who signs for cheap and produces big time.

Good Dude who won’t sign for cheap and produces big time.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jul 6, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I realize you're probably going to get about 18 recs on this post

But I dont see what the issue is. I said that its highly unlikely, and the Braun wasnt going to be going anywhere.

Players become unhappy, they might want a change of scenery, or move closer to home. Braun seems to like it here now, he’s opened a couple of businesses, has made a name for himself, etc, but we never know what goes on behind closed doors.

I dont think anyone on the team is very pleased with how well the team has done the past 2 years. Contract issues come up, personality conflicts can arise with other players, managers,etc, its not a completely rare thing to happen.

by backtocali on Jul 6, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

"but we never know what goes on behind closed doors."

You made the comment like you know what’s going on behind closed doors. That’s on you, not me.

I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful

by Michael M on Jul 6, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Get out of my head

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jul 6, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

"I'm thinking of a word...and it isn't kitty."

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by Yar Nivek on Jul 6, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I admit I missed him saying the "highly unlikely" part

I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful

by Michael M on Jul 6, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didnt get that at all

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jul 6, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Before the season, someone mentioned to me that they don't think there's a chance Braun plays out that entire deal.

If he continues to play on his current pace, he’ll see it as being way undervalued and demand to renegotiate.

In the long run, though, that could be for the best because any renegotiation that occurs would almost certainly add years to the deal.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 6, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

He doesn't really have much leverage

He can “demand” to renegotiate, but he can’t really force anybody to do that unless he does do something like add on more years, and they’d probably have to be at some sort of a token discount, otherwise why does Melvin bother?

Brewers Baseball and other assorted nonsense (mostly the assorted nonsense) at my blog, What's a Tararrel?

by Lefti on Jul 6, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I find it hilarious that football players refuse to come to camp.

But why is it we don’t ever see that in baseball? Are there rules preventing it?

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by Yar Nivek on Jul 6, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baseball players can be placed on the restricted list without pay

For baseball players with guaranteed contracts, that means they lose money. I don’t know much about the NFL, but I think most football contracts are not guaranteed or fully guaranteed. Football players hold out for more money (and go without pay) to avoid getting hurt in camp and losing out completely.

Eagerly awaiting SBN Madison.

by TheJay on Jul 7, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

He has his restaurants!

He could never leave Milwaukee. His restaurant ventures would flop. Braun will stay in Milwaukee until he retires to run his wildly and inexplicably successful clothing lines and restaurant franchises.

by ecocd on Jul 6, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh...

They said “interested”… not “seriously going after”.

Heck, I bet the Brewers are “interested” in Lincecum.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 6, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, right.

But if the Giants are “interested” in Braun the same way the Brewers would be “interested” in Lincecum … why say (or tweet, in this case) anything?

SRS BSNS

by Rubie Q on Jul 6, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ah.

Occam’s Razor, as per usual.

SRS BSNS

by Rubie Q on Jul 6, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

do i hear hooves?

Must be a zebra.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jul 6, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Trade rumors

Not sure if this is worthy of a fanshot, but with the speculation surrounding a Mariners/Rays Lee swap needing a third team, Buster Olney suggests something centered around a “Wade Davis-Lee-Lawrie framework”

I really hope not. Wade Davis stinks (ok, not really, but he’s not nearly good enough for me to give up Lawrie. Maybe Hellickson, but Davis?)

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 6, 2010 2:45 PM CDT reply actions  

There'd be way more to it than that,

but I’m inclined to agree with you.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 6, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could be convinced this is a great or terrible deal -- my initial reaction is that is OK.

Davis is off to rough start this year (and in the AL East), but had great minor league numbers and was a top prospect a year ago. He’s also under control for 5 more years.

Agree with Mykenk, a lot depends on the details and who actually is involved, but I’m OK with Davis as a starting point.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 6, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bleh

Wade Davis is a younger Manny Parra but with worse peripherals.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 6, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why trade our prospects for a major leaguer?

Are we buying? That’s the opposite of what this team should be doing.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jul 6, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Davis still has 5 years of team control after 2010. I don’t really see that as “buying” since you’re trading for his peak years, which will likely be years 3-6.

Would getting Hellickson be considered “buying” because he will be in the majors next year?

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 6, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think his point is to question why we would trade Lawrie. Hart and Fielder are the trade chips the Brewers should be shopping (and probably are, speculative Buster Olney rumors aside)

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 6, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I see that point

The reason I think you have to think about Lawrie as a trade chip is that he can definitely bring back more value than Hart and probably more value than Fielder.

I support keeping Lawrie more than anyone, but I would be open to trading him for a similarily rated pitching prospect (I’d consider rookies as prospects too) if the opportunity presented itself. As I said in my initial post, I’m not sure if Davis is that guy.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 6, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

In all honesty

you really think that Brett Lawrie will net a larger return than Prince Fielder?

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jul 6, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's close

Different types of trades anyways – Prince gets prospects, Lawrie would probably be moved for a veteran unless something like the Davis thing comes up.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 6, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, that's it

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jul 6, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I were DM

it would have to be Hellickson included in that deal to consider moving Lawrie.

My goodness.

by BrewHaHeather on Jul 6, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont know about that

Yes, Davis is off to a rough start, but its also in the AL East, and his numbers arent all that awful, with a move to the easier division and the NL, they might actually wind up being ok, especially for a rookie pitcher.

But Davis was the 34th ranked prospect according to BA in preseason and Lawrie was 59. Hellickson is a top 10 prospect right now, and Lawrie maybe a top 25 or top 30. For either player the Brewers would have to be adding more than just Lawrie.

by backtocali on Jul 6, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

i agree

let’s hypothetically say that the choice is (lawrie for davis) or (lawrie plus X for hellickson). i have limited faith in the brewers to “iron out” any issues with pitching prospects, so i would opt for hellickson, depending on the value of X.

i guess some others might use the “magic box”/ “it could even be a boat” joke, but i think we’re generally on the same page with respect to developing arms here.

by Capt Science on Jul 6, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point about the development of pitchers issue

But he’s a rookie, there is always a learning curve.

He’s having about as good/bad of a rookie season as Escobar is. You never know what is going to happen, but one bad season, as a rookie isnt a reason to write the guy off. He still has the same “sfuff” and the issue is just getting more polish probably.

by backtocali on Jul 6, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

ghosts

Putting teams up at the Pfister Hotel is one of my favorite things the Brewers do. I guess Pablo and Renteria checked out due to some paranormal activity.

by warwick5s on Jul 6, 2010 3:42 PM CDT reply actions  

"Paranormal Activity"

Has anyone besides baseball players reported seeing the ghosts? It almost makes me wonder if the Pfister doesn’t have a ghost, just a guy who likes to mess with visiting baseball players.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 6, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I walk past it every day

And the only paranormal activity Ive seen (when visiting teams are in town) is the overweight guy with a mustache in his mid 40’s with a binder full of baseball cards waiting for player autographs.

by backtocali on Jul 6, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

And we have a suspect.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 6, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is he happy and a youngster?

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by Yar Nivek on Jul 6, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Is that who that guy is?????

I said something to him once as I walked to work along the lines of “Hey, how’s it going?” and he said something completely off the wall that made me think he had some sort of mental illness.

by backtocali on Jul 7, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

i don't think THY

has a mustache

but baseball cards and mental illness do go hand-in-hand :P

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 7, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes, but I think it's hotel-worker pranks

…because the only other ghost stories from there that I anecdotally know of are from people who worked there.

by morineko on Jul 6, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

there's a hotel in Louisville

that some friends of my wife stayed at. They all reported a ghost event. Obviously hotel workers with assigned prank rooms.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 6, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm such a skeptic

and when most of the ghost stories you hear are from the same Wisconsin Bell/AT&T guys who tell stories about roaches and giant rats, you expect the next story to be about how some dude was wiring the switch at the Pfister and a ghost threw a giant rat at him.

by morineko on Jul 6, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

anyone remember all McClung's ghost hunting tweets?

Shoot, he should have signed with the Giants when he had the chance. Todd Wellemeyer is pants at ghost hunting (and he’s also on a rehab assignment, but that’s not the point)

by morineko on Jul 6, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

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