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Some things to read before the angry letters flood in.

I'm sure someone will point out a series that's statistically comparable, but this four game set against the Giants was the worst I can remember, to the point where I could only stand to watch about two and a half games of it. The Brewers were outscored 36-7 by the Giants this week. For comparison's sake, the last time the Brewers were swept in a four game series at home was July 28-31 of 2008: The Cubs won that series 31-11.

If you really needed to hear it again, here's the summary of this week's ineptitude: The Brewers went 3-for-42 with runners in scoring position, allowed ten unearned runs on six errors and left 46 men on base in four games. They couldn't even get through the sausage race without a disaster.

Tom Haudricourt called this week "embarrassing," and it's hard to disagree with him. Howie Magner says he can't remember a lower point since coming to Milwaukee in 2007. In-Between Hops is counting this series as payback for Prince Fielder's celebration last season.

I know I'm digging pretty deep for a bright side here, but at least Zach Braddock and David Riske each pitched scoreless innings yesterday, and Braddock even drew something of a backhanded compliment from Rob Neyer.

Maybe worth noting: Since coming to the big leagues, Braddock has faced 23 lefties and allowed them to hit .300/.391/.350. He's actually been a little better against righties, who have hit .298/.327/.404 in 50 PAs. Braddock dominated lefties in his 17 innings in AAA, striking out 14 of the 24 he faced and allowing just a .150 batting average against.

  • Giants reliever Dan Runzler left yesterday's game after dislocating his left knee while batting in the seventh inning, and will likely need to go on the DL.
  • Alcides Escobar was back in the starting lineup yesterday and batted second for the first time since May 20. He responded by going 0-for-5 with a walk and a strikeout, leaving ten men on base. The batter before him (Rickie Weeks) and each of the three after him (Prince Fielder, Corey Hart and Casey McGehee) each had multiple hits.
  • Ryan Braun got most of the day off yesterday, although he did ground out with the bases loaded in a sixth inning pinch-hit appearance.
  • Eli Whiteside, Aubrey Huff and Ryan Braun (?!) are leading FanGraphs Star of the Game voting.
  • CoolStandings has the Brewer playoff chances at .5%, tying a season low.
  • Here are the MLB.com video highlights.
  • Rickie Weeks and Joe Inglett each got hits yesterday to extend their hitting streaks to three games, tying Yovani Gallardo for the Brewers' longest active streak.

More and more white flags are starting to wave: BrewCrew365 is ready to fire Ken Macha and Doug Melvin and start conducting a fire sale, and just look at what this season has done to Miller Park Drunk.

Jack Moore of Disciples of Uecker says blaming Macha is the easy way out. I'll agree with that to a point: Managers get a lot of undue credit when teams win and the equal amount of undue blame when they lose. With that said, I'm in agreement with what Rubie said in this week's MACHAWATCH!: It's becoming relatively apparent that Macha won't be back next season, so why not see if Dale Sveum or Willie Randolph can get anything out of this team?

@notkenmacha must be feeling the heat as well, because he's discussing the proper methods for sealing a coffin.

In an interesting injury note, the Brewers have sent Jody Gerut and Marco Estrada home to rehab their nagging heel and shoulder injuries, respectively. Here's what Tom Haudricourt had to say about it in that link:

Suffice it to say that the Brewers are frustrated with the pace of the recoveries of Gerut and Estrada. They won't say it on the record but the unusual move of sending the players home to continue their rehabs is a motivational move to get them back in action.

In other words, if players don't have the perks of being in a major-league clubhouse, perhaps they will be motivated to push harder through their rehabs and get back on the field.

That's the first time I've heard it suggested that either player isn't trying hard enough to recover. And frankly, that's the only explanation I can think of for the decision to kick them out of the clubhouse.

At least Yovani Gallardo should be back on time: Call to the Pen notes that he's third among NL starters with a 2.99 FIP.

Another day, another dose of trade rumors. First, Peter Gammons is reporting that the Braves might be interested in acquiring Corey Hart in exchange for AAA lefty Mike Minor (FanShot). Minor is 22 years old and was the Braves' first round pick last season. He's progressed quickly through the organization and is already in AAA in his first full pro season, where he's posted a 1.42 ERA in his first two starts. Talking Chop says he's the Braves' most tradeable player, but David O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution isn't buying the rumor.

Meanwhile, you might be able to scratch the Padres off the list of Hart's possible suitors. GM Jed Hoyer told Jim Bowden that it's "very important" to get a player that can help the team offensively and defensively.

On the Fielder front: Tom Tango tackles the argument that the Brewers should trade Prince Fielder, saying "in order for fans to buy in to getting rid of Fielder, there has to be some promise back to the fans."

In the minors:

  • On the field, the affiliates went 3-3 and got an encouraging performance from Cody Scarpetta, who pitched seven scoreless innings and struck out eleven in Brevard County's 6-1 win over Dunedin. You can read about that and more in today's Minor League Notes.
  • Huntsville broadcaster Chad Anderson has an interview with Michael Fiers, who picked up the win in his AA debut on Wednesday.

On power rankings: Beyond the Box Score has the Brewers at 21, down one spot.

The transaction wire is quiet today, which is always weird.

Here's today's All Star Notes:

Here's some good news out of Texas: Rangers fan Tyler Morris, who fell from the second deck in Arlington earlier this week, was discharged from the hospital yesterday. He has a fractured skull and sprained ankle, but was lucky to avoid much more serious injuries.

On this day in 2002 the All Star Game ended in a 7-7, 11 inning tie. I'm still not sure why people got so worked up about an exhibition game ending in a tie, but they did.

FtJ and I both struck out on birthdays today. My apologies.

Now, if you'll excuse me, my popcorn is done.

Drink up.

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Why not see if Dale Sveum or Willie Randolph can get anything out of this team?

Because they won’t (or rather, shouldn’t) be around next year either. Sveum’s supposedly the hitting coach, and the entire offense is bipolar, and no one can bunt, it’s hard to say he’s doing a good job. Point out all the offensive categories that we’re leading, that’s fine, but what exactly has Sveum proved over the last 2 years? Not so much, in my opinion.

And isn’t Randolph the guy who works with the middle infielders on defense? How’s that working out? Granted, Weeks being good has been attributed to Randolph’s presence, but I’m not so sure about that. Maybe if he was managing and not trying to coach he’d be okay, but I’d rather start over with a new staff. Obviously not going to happen, but, whatever.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 9, 2010 9:57 AM CDT reply actions  

but I’d rather start over with a new staff

We can still do that, if Randolph or Sveum takes over and the Powers That Be don’t think they showed enough to be retained.

SRS BSNS

by Rubie Q on Jul 9, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

True

but I fear that given how terrible the team is, a change in manager would be given too much credit for an improvement in performance, when it’s likely going to be due to regression to the mean.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 9, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Would that be...

“progression” to the mean?

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

nope

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on Jul 9, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

If that was the case

then I would’ve expected Attanasio to keep Sveum on after the playoff run in ’08.

SRS BSNS

by Rubie Q on Jul 9, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

2 games over 500

isn’t really an improvement in performance.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 9, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe. Probably

Sveum is 8-8 as a manager. I guess that’s better than we’ve got now.

\/ \/ \/ \/ \/

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 9, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Runzler

Maybe this injury will show Macha that using a pitcher to PH ahead of the backup catcher isn’t a good idea.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 10:02 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

it would to me

but…alas it didn’t work for the opposing manager, so why for ours.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 9, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

He doesn't seem to be too worried about losing Dave Bush

i think we’ve discovered the real motivation for using Bush as a pinch-runner three times this season.

by ecocd on Jul 9, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good point

Then again, they’ve used Wolf and Gallardo as PHs this season.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bitrthdays

lets go with my sister, who turns 21 today. She is disappointed that she won’t be seeing gallardo at tonights game, but is engaged. Sorry fellas

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Jul 9, 2010 10:08 AM CDT reply actions  

21 at the ballpark?

Is there a more expensive place to be having your first (legal) drinks than Miller Park? Hopefully she does some solid tailgating before getting into the stadium.

by ecocd on Jul 9, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Please

when you’re turning 21, you’re not paying for anything, so if you hate your friends, the park is a PERFECT place to turn 21!

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 9, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unless...

Your friends are so cheap that they only buy you a couple beers.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then they're not your friends.

Though, with enough friends, that’s not a problem.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 9, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Four game series massacre

When I think of four game sweeps, a matchup in September of 1978 always comes to mind. The Yankees were making their run at overtaking the Red Sox and went into Fenway and absolutely blew Boston away by scores of, 15-3, 13-2, 7-0, and 7-4. The first two games saw the Yankees go through their lineup twice before the Red Sox made it once through the batting order.

To their credit the Sox did manage to battle back and force a one game playoff, only to see Bucky Dent hit a HR into the left field screen at Fenway

by statsllc on Jul 9, 2010 10:14 AM CDT reply actions  

In terms of Brewers four game sweeps

I still think the pantsing the Cubs delivered in ’08 is hard to top, if only because we threw Sheets and CC at ’em and came out with a goose egg.

SRS BSNS

by Rubie Q on Jul 9, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was there

humiliating.

Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.

by theBrouhaha on Jul 9, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

That was awful.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 9, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

how about the sweep we gave to the pirates this year

that had to be more humiliating for them. it even got broadcast news coverage out-of-market.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 9, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was memorable

But not completely unexpected. They were awful, we were good (I thought), a lopsided sweep wasn’t out of order.

by nullacct on Jul 9, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

So...

what does that mean about our series this weekend? When we swept the Pirates, weren’t they ahead of us in the standings? They’ve finally regressed back to the cellar of the division, but the Brewers are doing their best to make it a race.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

What it means to me

Is that this is a team with a lot of hitting talent and questionable pitching that underperformed and seems to be lacking leadership and desire. But, that’s just me.

by nullacct on Jul 9, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which team?

Brewers or Pirates?

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

If a Mike Minor trade doesn't work out, I'd be fine with some of their other pitching prospects.

But I wouldn’t be surprised if a Minor-Hart swap didn’t include an extra Brewer. Either a prospect, or a reliever. Maybe Hart and Coffey for Mike Minor.

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on Jul 9, 2010 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

The Brewers don't need to throw anybody in

Given that nothing ever works out for the Brewers though, I doubt a Hart/Minor trade is going to happen.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 9, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was pulling out of my parking spot as he was walking in, so I didn't get to talk to him.

But to answer your question, he’s doing well. He’s tired, as he had a coffee in hand. He’s also a little scared, and needs to file a restraining order against that weirdo that he keeps seeing around Miller Park.

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on Jul 9, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

My wife saw him yesterday at the game up in the club level

He was not at all impressed with my infant daughter who was crawling around on the carpet in her little Tim Lincecum jersey.

by backtocali on Jul 9, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

carpet?

either those were really good seats, or your wife should wear a bit more.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 9, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Club Level

The hallways of the club level are carpeted.

by backtocali on Jul 9, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

and it has AC and that wonderful desert cart

I love the Club level you do not have to mingle with the great unwashed unless their boss gives them a night in the Company suite ;) lol

"It's a joke. It's all a joke.

by WSB Chris on Jul 9, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure what's worse...

Putting your daughter in a Lincecum jersey or letting her crawl around the floor at MP.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know what's worse than both of those though

Putting your daughter in a Pujols jersey and letting her crawl around the floor of Wrigley Field.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 9, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it depends...

The trough probably isn’t cleaner than the floor right after a game.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd eat off a dry surface that was wiped down with ammonia

I wouldn’t eat off any surface that was wiped down with urine.

But that’s just me. :)

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, well

nor would I. just that there’s some things that won’t grow in piss that have no problem with chewing gum/whatever’s you drag in with your shoes.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 9, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point

I’ll finish with that I wouldn’t let my kid crawl on the carpeting at MP as well as the troughs at Wrigley. :)

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

good point

thanks for the reality check

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 9, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but...

Between crawling on the floor and getting home to take a bath… I’m sure there are multiple times the hands are in the mouth.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

But only if we dont hand cuff her to her car seat. I think the rationale was “would you rather her squirm all around all day in the heat while trying to hold her, or keep her in her stroller” or “let her roam free and maybe get dirty”?

by backtocali on Jul 9, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Understood

My wife would never let our kids crawl around the floor at a public place… granted, she’s a germaphobe.

She’d probably let the kids squirm until she got fed up and made us leave the game.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats pretty much what happened with us

I didnt get there until after 1230 and they had been there for over an hour already, and with it being so hot and sticky…. we didnt even get to our seats.

If they hadnt been free tickets I would have been ticked off that we left after the 1st inning.

by backtocali on Jul 9, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, the Club Level doesn't have A/C?

Is it only the suites and the NYCE Club that have A/C?

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd been to the county stadium boxes a couple times

and the mez. outdoors seats a couple times. But most of my time was lower grandstand about 3 sections from the foul poles.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 9, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I’m planning on heading to the Reds game at the end of the month and will be sitting in the Club level. If it’s too hot, it’s nice to know that I can head to the bar area to cool off.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's awesome

My brother got cheap tickets on StubHub for a game last summer and I’ve vowed to never go to a game without access to A/C now.

by ecocd on Jul 9, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately...

You can only watch the game from the A/C area on TV unless you’re in a suite. Granted, if the Brewers are getting blown out, it’s probably best if I stop watching.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

solution

those sani-wipe things. buy a box and take them with you every place. then you can keep your kids all sterile for the rest of their lives.

also: remember to spay or neuter your pets, folks.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 9, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Right

We always carry those around as well as hand sanitizer. However, that won’t really work if the kid is crawling on the floor… unless you plan on wiping their hands each time they put them on the ground.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

I’m in microbiology – washing hands is overrated unless you’re working with the real nasties.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 9, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is why I never bathe, either

Usually once a year on my birthday. I’m saving the environment. Strangely, my only friends are on the Internet and the only job I’ve been able to hold is in the waste disposal business.

I don’t like hand sanitizers, but I’m still a fan of washing my hands after using the facilities.

by ecocd on Jul 9, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's a good idea to wash my hands a couple times a day

so, yeah, when i go to the bathroom is just a convenient time to do so moreso than any need. If the toilet paper is missed, that’s another matter entirely.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 9, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

my oldest used to crawl on that carpet all the time

And he is fine now he once even spit up on the floor of Jeffery Hammonds suite when our suite lady snuck us in his suite to show it to us.

I love that boy

"It's a joke. It's all a joke.

by WSB Chris on Jul 9, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you sure the floor didn't make him spit up? :)

My wife’s nephew once took off his diaper and rubbed feces all over his face after a nap. He’s 4 now and is fine as well… but I wouldn’t recommend letting your kids do that either.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh...

Herpes and HIV kind of make that statement false.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

HIV does kill

indirectly, but it still does. I see what you mean with herpes. And accidents with woodchippers.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 9, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never understood why

people ever got back on the bandwagon for Macha just because we started to win a few games. He is not the right manager for this team. I dont really know who is available but there is a clear rift between him and the players. I would be happy to see him go ASAP.

::Another 95% plus FanGraphs win goes right down the fucking tubes:: Indians fan after Prince's Grand Salami

by Wizzyconsin on Jul 9, 2010 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

estrada

when they tried to send him down to the minors, he pulled out the “you can’t do that, I’m injured” card. I think telling Gerut to pack his bags was just a convenient way to get rid of the MLB groupie in Estrada. Perhaps he was also bitching at how poorly the team was doing.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 9, 2010 11:24 AM CDT reply actions  

I can see why Estrada would be drawing this out,

that’s a f*ckton of extra money he’s earning, right?

Why would Gerut be dogging his rehab? Does he think he’ll be released or sent down? I think he’d see legit playing time, especially if Hart gets moved. When you have your shortstop playing emergency outfield, you know you need a 5th outfielder. Gerut won’t be signing a new contract next year is he doesn’t play this year. It makes no sense.

by ecocd on Jul 9, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think they are dogging it

I am just guessing that they don’t want to come back until they are 100% which is frustrating the Brewers when they have to put Inglett or Escobar in the OF.

If they come back and put up terrible numbers because they aren’t 100%, it really hurts their value going forward when they look to catch on with the Brewers or with another team next year.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 9, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Inglett

is listed as an OF on the roster… despite him historically being a second baseman.

The Brewers have five OFs on the active roster. The problem yesterday was that Braun didn’t start and Edmonds had an injury.

Gerut probably hasn’t been happy since they signed Edmonds, who took most of his playing time away.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Theory

They’re upset with Estrada for dogging his rehab, but if they’d sent him home and not Gerut, it would’ve looked like a double standard.

I’m under the assumption Gerut’s contract is guaranteed, so he has no reason to dog it in his rehab…if he gets activated and released he still gets paid and could play elsewhere.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 9, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah...

that’s basically what I’m sayin’ too. Gerut was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. It’s really about Estrada.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 9, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

So...

Does this mean that the Brewers are probably done with Estrada after this stunt? Is this type of thing why the Nationals let him go?

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like those explanations much better

than Gerut somehow being an unmotivated douc— … guy.

by ecocd on Jul 9, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

brewcrew365.com link

NSFW text.

MPD may not be either, but I haven’t gotten to it yet.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 9, 2010 11:32 AM CDT reply actions  

MPD

warm beer on the drive…not cool. and not because it’s warm.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 9, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rumors have it.. Cliff Lee to Yankees

With Burnett and Vazquez stumbling, I wonder who’s going to lose their rotation spot.

by SgtClueLs on Jul 9, 2010 12:16 PM CDT reply actions  

MLB says "intense negotiations"

I’ll believe it when I see it, though. The Cameron trade didn’t go through when that was all but a done deal. I think the Twins have a good catcher to offer, as well. JZ might be looking for some leverage on Minnesota by “intensely” negotiating with the Yankees. There isn’t another impact pitcher available on the market so each team needs Lee.

by ecocd on Jul 9, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bad deal for the Yankees

Giving up a top 10 prospect in Jesus Montero for 2.5 months of Lee is insane.

by backtocali on Jul 9, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Theyre already leading the division and have the best record in baseball

They have a good chance to get to the WS and maybe win already, why give up 6 years of a potential all star catcher/first baseman with a monster bat, for “insurance” wins?

by backtocali on Jul 9, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I think it would be a dumb trade in terms of value, but the Yankees don’t need prospects because they just sign whatever they need through free agency whenever they want.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 9, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to mention

deals like this are what the Yankees have prospects for.

I think it was a given that Lee was going to be a Yankee next year. Now, they give up a few top prospects, and in exchange they get Lee, an even bigger lock to resigning him, and they keep their first round draft pick they’d have to give to seattle.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 9, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

No way!

That’s Too Many Lefties!!!™

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 9, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Yankees would have

Sabathia, Lee and Pettitte in their rotation. An all lefty playoff rotation?

by backtocali on Jul 9, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a good slogan for the 2011 Brewers.

But I tend to prefer “Come See What’s Left Over.”

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 9, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully it's not

Wait, What Changed?™

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 9, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

This thread is making me angry at baseball.

I feel like the Yankees (and Red Sox) should just not be allowed to draft until the 10th round.

by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 9, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

They don't really need to.

With their payroll, they would just buy the talent they need.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also

There was momentum building around the Rays being able to add Lee. Imagine THAT rotation. Price, Lee, Niemann..

Not only are they adding Lee to their own team, but they’re keeping him away from their competition.

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on Jul 9, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if the Tampa Bay rumors were put out just to drive up the price

It made no sense for the Rays to give up anything for Lee when they already have one of the best rotations in baseball and Jeremy Hellickson waiting in the minors, not to mention that their bigger need is offense.

I wonder if Lee to the Yankees would put enough pressure on the Rays that they’d be willing to make a big trade for someone like Fielder.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 9, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please remember

That championship teams are worth much, much more than the sum of all their players.

by nullacct on Jul 9, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hughes... he doesn't make enough money to stay in that rotation.

The Yankees may not be able to actually buy a championship, but they sure as heck are doing the next closest thing.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Disagree

Hughes has a 3.7 FIP through 15 games. He’s got an 8.2:2.8 K:BB (per 9) ratio.

I heard they’ll try to shop Vazquez. Not sure who would be interested in Vazquez, though.

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on Jul 9, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're disagreeing that Hughes makes less money than the other four?

I was really just kidding. I figure it will most likely be Vazquez since he’s been struggling and is going after this season. I doubt they’ll find many buyers for him since he’s making $11.5M this season. Granted, if they’re willing to eat some of his contact, I’m sure someone would trade for him.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't realize you were joking, my bad.

I’m kind of curious what type of team would have interest in Vazquez. He’s struggling too much to flip him to a buyer, and he’s only got 1 year left, so a seller won’t want him.

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by tcyoung on Jul 9, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interested teams

Probably a playoff team that needs another decent starter due to injuries or ineffectiveness and can afford his salary…

Red Sox (although I doubt the Yankees would trade with them)
White Sox
Dodgers

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's Official - Cliff Lee to the Rangers

For Smoak and a handful of minor leaguers…

"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10

by MadtownTim on Jul 9, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seems unlikely to me

Is Piglett our starting 2B next year? A quick glance and the 2011 free agent 2B market looks pretty barren.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 9, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

The article makes the point that 2B is a bigger need

It might be a very good “sell high” time for Weeks. The Brewers would plug a hole and worry about it later if they could get someone to gross overpay for Weeks.

I’m still skeptical that he’ll give us a full season of play. His injury history is just too spotty. This is also why I don’t think he has much trade value, either.

by ecocd on Jul 9, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe Lawrie plays 2B.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

CC for another season!

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

That needs to not happen.

If this season’s extended fail hasn’t convinced him to retire, I’m not sure what will.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 9, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's played for worse teams (including the Brewers)

But I agree that Brewers shouldn’t use him as a stopgap at 2B next season if Weeks is traded.

Although I’m sure he’d continue to play if the Brewers offered him another contract.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

When I said "extended fail"

I was referring to his, not the Brewers’.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 9, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotcha

You’re probably right. He already has 5 errors this season, which matches his total for all of last season. Plus, his hitting isn’t even close to what it was last season.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he is then I bet he's drawing a lot of interest

From teams who see him as a good young player being underutilized.

by nullacct on Jul 9, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

weeks?

underutilized? he plays every day.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 9, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Either give him the green light or move him down

He’s a “leadoff hitter” with 52 RBIs and 5 SBs.

by nullacct on Jul 9, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Brewers don't have any better options for leadoff right now

Considering Weeks is #6 in the NL in runs, it doesn’t seem like he needs to be stealing more bases to get into scoring position.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't thinking about us

I was thinking other teams would look at him and see a bunch of places they could use him, in ways that we aren’t.

by nullacct on Jul 9, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see

I was responding to this statement…

Either give him the green light or move him down

I thought it was directed at the Brewers.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

he doesn't have to worry about his own homers when he's only on first or second

but yeah, if he’s scoring from first on most hits, no need to steal at all.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jul 9, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, those Giants fans are so clever, voting Braun star of the game.

Is it just me or are the Giants the West coast Cardinals?

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 9, 2010 1:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Eh

I occasionally forget the Giants exist. If they want to participate, move closer.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 9, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rock bottom

That assumes that we can’t get any worse. The fact that there are two teams below us in the standings means that we’re not quite there yet… but we’re heading in that direction.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Going to the game tonight

first one who finds me gets a free firm denial of being mykenk.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 9, 2010 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

I realized too late that Abe Vigoda doesn’t look like Abe Vigoda without his bald head.
Sorta looks like Rahm Emmanuel instead.

by nullacct on Jul 9, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Try a visor instead of a cap

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

That guy's name is "Pagoda"?

Otherwise, shouldn’t the hat be on the building in the background? :)

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depends

If the Brewers are crushing the Pirates, I bet you’ll be the only bitter one there. :)

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

You subscribe to the "people act the opposite online theory"?

Like when an ugly person pretends to be hot… a man pretends to be a woman… or a cop pretends to be a little kid?

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

You got it.

I’m an incredibly happy, incredibly hot little girl.

Shruggity.

by Mykenk on Jul 9, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Annnnnnnd

we all go to jail.

SRS BSNS

by Rubie Q on Jul 9, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I'm pretty sure it's a felony

to use the words “little girl” on the internet.

I will attempt to confirm.

SRS BSNS

by Rubie Q on Jul 9, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

It was a great run. I look forward to reading the redesigned BCB from Leavenworth.

SRS BSNS

by Rubie Q on Jul 9, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to any BCB get-togethers...

for fear that Chris Hansen will be there when I show up.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chris Hansen's already here.

He comments, ironically enough, under the name DICKYBANGBANG.

SRS BSNS

by Rubie Q on Jul 9, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Yankees denied by Jack Z

Too bad, I think Lee going to New York might have helped us.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 9, 2010 3:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I still think it happens

Once Montero is agreed upon, I have a hard time seeing come off the table because of the other prospects involved.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 9, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hear the Rangers are getting involved.

Probably messing up the talks with the Yankees.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

For who?

Smoak isn’t hitting very well, but then again he’s known for his glove rather than his bat.

The Rangers were headed to the playoffs as is… but Lee could very well get them to the WS.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't be for salary

Lee’s up after this year and is only making $9 million. The Rangers would only be on the hook for $4.5 million. Even with ownership issues, they can probably find $4.5 million for one of the most dominant pitchers in baseball in the midst of a pennant race. If we were talking about a $10 million tab there might be an issue.

by ecocd on Jul 9, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure so

I’ve read that they might ask Seattle pay some of Lee’s salary or take salary back in someone like Rich Harden. This works for Seattle because they would getter more or better prospects.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 9, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now the Reds are "going all-out" for Lee

That might be even better (for the Brewers) than the Yankees getting him.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 9, 2010 3:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Heh...

This sounds more and more like the whole LeBron thing. All these “updates” are probably originating from ESPN… trying to hype things up.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 9, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Trade schadenfreude

The Mariners somehow got Justin Smoak and three prospects and the Brewers will probably get Jonathan Sanchez if a trade even happens (Lee is obviously better/more desirable than Fielder, but still…)

Also, Reds/Yankees were the two teams for which a Lee acquisition could have benefited the Brewers.

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 9, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe a bit of a reach

But it could have put pressure on the Rays to make a deal for an impact bat like Fielder

Ryan Braun: He loves it.

by SRB on Jul 9, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

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