Tuesday's Frosty Mug
Some things to read while starting with a big bang.
If you missed yesterday, you missed a lot. On the field, the Brewers had one of their best games of the season as Yovani Gallardo and the Brewer bats combined to dominate the Cubs, 18-1. Miller Park Drunk has the best of Cub fan reactions on Twitter.
It's probably safe to assume Ryan Braun and Prince Fielder will remain in the #3 and 4 spots for the foreseeable future. They switched back to that alignment last night and had five hits each, scoring five runs and driving in seven. Fielder's first RBI was the 500th of his career, making him the 12th Brewer ever to reach that mark.
Unfortunately, every silver lining seems to be attached to a massive cloud. Carlos Gomez left the game with dizziness and was taken to the hospital for a CT scan after being hit in the head by a pitch from Cubs reliever Brian Schlitter. Gomez was hit twice in the game.
With Jim Edmonds already out of the game, the Brewers were left without a center fielder and decided to give Alcides Escobar a shot out there. It only took Escobar two innings to turn in a sparkling defensive play. Escobar went 3-for-5 with a walk, scored twice and drove in two runs in what might have been one of his best games as a major leaguer.
Meanwhile, the Brewer offense overshadowed a dominant performance by Yovani Gallardo, who tied a career high with 12 strikeouts while holding the Cubs to a run on two hits in six innings and threw just 95 pitches.
Other notes from the field:
- You Can't Predict Baseball notes that there have only been nine games all season where a team scored at least 17 runs, and the Brewers have four of them.
- The Brewers are the first team to score at least 17 runs four times in a season since the 1936 Cubs.
- Entering last night's game, the Brewers had scored just eight runs in their previous five games.
- The Brewers batted around in the fourth and fifth innings, becoming just the second team in 2010 to do it in consecutive innings. The last time the Brewers had done it was in 1999, when they sent 21 batters to the plate in the eighth and ninth inning of a game against the Expos.
- The Brewers sent 13 batters to the plate in the game and the only one that didn't reach base at least once was Trevor Hoffman, who batted in the ninth inning for the first time since 2001.
- Casey Coleman allowed six earned runs on eight hits and two walks in 2.1 innings of work last night in his major league debut. He also became MLB's first-ever third generation pitcher.
- Yovani Gallardo was also hit by a pitch last night, becoming the first Brewer pitcher ever to be hit twice in a season. Plunk Everyone has more.
- Casey McGehee, Yovani Gallardo and Prince Fielder are leading FanGraphs' Star of the Game voting.
- Here are the MLB.com video highlights.
We now have contract details for Corey Hart's new deal: Hart received a $1 million signing bonus, and will earn $6.5m in 2011, $9m in 2012 and $10m in 2013 (FanShot). Adam McCalvy said the deal came together quickly. Meanwhile, reactions to the deal are also coming in pretty fast:
- Manny Parra and Ryan Braun are among the Brewers happy to see Hart sticking around.
- Keith Law noted that average production from a right fielder is pretty high, and thinks Hart is too volatile and his skill set too limited to live up to the deal. Law has much more on Hart, if you follow one of those links and check out his full feed.
- Dave Cameron says the deal values Hart as a league average player, but says the contract isn't a great fit for the Brewers.
- Matt Klaasen of FanGraphs also doesn't get how this deal fits into the Brewers' long term plans.
- Jack Moore of Disciples of Uecker says the Brewers will come out "even or slightly ahead" in the deal.
- Miller Park Drunk is ok with the move.
- Wisconsin Sports Tap says it makes sense to extend Hart if other teams weren't willing to offer enough to trade for him.
- J.C. Bradbury expects Hart to be worth $33 million over the course of his new deal.
- Jaymes Langrehr of the Brewers Bar says Hart's deal should be celebrated, not criticized.
- Tim Froberg of the Appleton Post-Crescent says the deal is a smart move, and takes the opportunity to make fat jokes about Prince Fielder.
- In-Between Hops noted that the Brewers now have 17 players under team control through the end of the 2012 season.
- Old Hoss Radbourn congratulates Corey Hart on being a pioneer for Neanderthals.
With Hart's deal done, is Rickie Weeks next? Doug Melvin told Adam McCalvy he's had conversation with Weeks about an extension, but talks are slowed by the fact that Weeks is in the middle of selecting a new agent. Weeks' previous agent, Lon Babby, is the new President of Basketball Operations for the Phoenix Suns.
While Weeks and the Brewers may be negotiating, it still sounds like there's nothing happening on the Prince Fielder front. Doug Melvin told Jerry Crasnick "it takes two sides to make a deal."
The non-waiver trade deadline may have passed, but teams still have until the end of August to work out waiver trades. MLB Trade Rumors expects Randy Wolf, Trevor Hoffman, David Riske, Doug Davis, LaTroy Hawkins and Jody Gerut to clear waivers, but expects Dave Bush and Jim Edmonds to get claimed. Jon Heyman says Wolf, Bush and Hoffman could possibly be moved.
Speaking of Wolf, an MRI confirmed that there are no fractures in his left wrist, and he might be able to make his next scheduled start on Saturday (FanShot). Ken Macha raised the possibility that the team could use the off day to shuffle the rotation a bit and push Wolf back to Tuesday.
Even though they didn't make any moves, Jeff Sullivan of SBNation.com gave the Brewers 3 out of 5 obscure Cyrillic letters in his trade deadline review.
In the minors:
- The affiliates went 4-2 yesterday, and Taylor Green hit a walkoff home run in the 13th inning to propel Huntsville to a 5-3 victory over Carolina. You can read about that and more in today's Minor League Notes.
- The Brewers have agreed to terms with catcher Rafael Neda, their tenth round pick in the 2010 draft. With Neda in the fold the Brewers have signed ten of their first 12 selections, with only first round pick Dylan Covey and seventh rounder Joel Pierce remaining unsigned.
- Jim Callis of Baseball America has notes on three Brewer prospects: He says Mat Gamel "has a chance" to be a legit major league first baseman, third base or the outfield could be a "more realistic" position for Brett Lawrie, and Rafael Neda received a $100,000 signing bonus.
- Maverick Lasker has been eliminated, but Zelous Wheeler moved on to the third round in MiLB.com's Moniker Madness tournament. Follow that link to cast your vote.
- Wisconsin lost to Clinton last night, with former Brewer farmhand Tom Wilhelmsen pitching seven shutout innings and picking up the win. The Appleton Post-Crescent has a profile of Wilhelmsen, who tended bar, backpacked and played in the Golden League in between stints in the minors, and is still only 26.
- Three Timber Rattlers are having a contest to see who can lose the most weight before Del Howell's wedding.
On power rankings:
- Craig Calcaterra has the Brewers holding steady at 21.
- ESPN has the Brewers holding steady at 21.
- MLB FanHouse dropped the Brewers from 12 to 25.
It was a pretty busy day around here yesterday, so you might have missed a couple of great posts that got buried in the shuffle. If you haven't read them yet, go back and take a look at TheJay's post on the Brewers' longest scoreless streaks, and Jordan's note on inactivity at the trade deadline.
Around baseball:
Braves: Placed infielder Martin Prado on the DL with a fractured pinky finger.
Cardinals: Signed pitcher Nate Robertson to a minor league deal.
Cubs: Placed pitcher Carlos Silva on the DL with an irregular heartbeat.
Rays: Placed pitcher Andy Sonnanstine on the DL with a hamstring strain.
Red Sox: Placed Mike Cameron on the DL with a torn abdominal muscle.
Tigers: Acquired outfielder Brandon Jones from the Pirates for a PTBNL.
When the Brewers unveiled their new organizational plan for pitching over the weekend, one of the factors they emphasized was height. It turns out that may not be a relevant factor: Jeremy Greenhouse of The Baseball Analysts wasn't able to prove any correlation between pitcher height and velocity.
On this day in 1997, Jeromy Burnitz tied an AL record by hitting a home run in his second consecutive pinch hit appearance. The Brewers lost to the Mariners anyway, 6-5.
On this day in 2001, the Brewers beat the Braves 3-2 on an 11th inning walkoff wild pitch by Jose Cabrera.
Happy birthday today to:
- Brevard County Manatee Peter Fatse, who turns 23.
- 2005-06 Brewer Justin Lehr, who turns 33.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going back to solving mysteries.
Drink up.
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pitcher height - speed link
Actually, I’m not surprised there’s not a significant correlation there. But I would expect height gives you more possible angles to cross home plate at and give you greater potential for break. In other words, straight-as-an-arrow fastballs won’t be affected by height, but curves and sliders would be.
I think it makes it easier to keep hte ball down, because you're throwing on more of a downward plane.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
if not making it easier to keepthe ball down, perhaps having a steeper downward plane makes the ball tougher to hit?
http://www.mlbsoup.com
Lowering the mound
Having taller pitchers is the same argument as lowering the mound. I believe the downward plane was the justification for that change.
What about height vs. durability?
I don’t the best way to measure that (GS? DL time?).
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
Spikes and Rivercats
I can neither confirm nor deny my involvement in the promotions of these two teams. Okay, lets just say I can’t confirm it :P
Someone in a minor league advertising/promotions office must be stalking me though.
also my wife has a friend that was in marketing for the Mallards for a couple years
and I guess they’ve been praised for some of their promos.
But I don’t think she’s still working for them.
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 3, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Wolf on the move?
(a) Would the Brewers give up Wolf?
(b) Why would the give up on Wolf?
© Who would want Wolf, anyway?
Yeah that makes no sense at all
It’s extremely rare that a player with 2 more years on a deal (non-arb years) are just picked up on waivers like that, especially when a trade would have to be worked out. I doubt a team would be willing to take the chance to pick him up, and I doubt the Brewers would want to give him up. If they did they’d probably sign another pitcher this offseason. I wouldn’t mind signing Wolf to a 2 year $20 million deal this offseason.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Why would the Brewers sign Wolf to a bigger contract than what he already has in place?
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
That's about his curent contract
2011 & 2012 = $9.5 million + $1.5 buyout on a club option = $20.5 million 2 years.
Right.
If I understand correctly, Jordan is saying that given the current contract value, but in a separate universe where he didn’t pitch for the Brewers this season, he would not mind seeing Wolf signed to that contract.
Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.
Exactly
If someone were to advocate dumping Wolf somehow during August on a team for nothing (basically giving away his contract), then they’d be looking for a pitcher, like Wolf, to sign to a 2 year, $20 million dollar deal. So that’s why I think a deal would be incredibly unlikely.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Wasn't the idea that Wolf would clear waivers and then be traded
Not that a team would claim him?
I have no doubt he would clear waivers. I very much doubt a) any team would trade for him this month and b) the Brewers would trade him even if one tries.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
Why not a waiver claim?
I think we’re all in agreement that the Brewers wouldn’t ever trade him. I don’t see why a team wouldn’t put in a claim on him, though. He’s got a fair contract and someone like the Mariners or Athletics could see him as a good 2-year contract to have on their team. I’d be a little surprised if he was not claimed if he’s put on waivers. We’d never know officially, though, would we?
We might... if it's released to the media.
They announced that they picked up Davis last season when the D-Backs put him on waivers after the trade deadline, but nothing happened.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Exactly
Given that they’d have to trade him, Wolf has really no value as a piece in a trade. That’s not to say he doesn’t have value to the Brewers. A trade would just be for a low-level prospect, so I’m comparing this to a waiver claim. Like Alex Rios and the White Sox a few years ago. It just rarely happens.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Bush is intriguing, though
A natural fit at this point in the season is actually St. Louis, isn’t it? They’ve still had absolutely no luck at filling the back end of their rotation. Any manager is playing Russian roulette sending Bush out on the mound, but that’s better than throwing the likes of Suppan (no long in the rotation, though) with all the chambers full.
Normally it might be hard for the team to trade him within the division, but that might not be as much of a concern given win-loss records and time left in the season.
Bush is also the last NL Central pitcher to win a playoff game
Old-school reason to pick him up.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
So Doug Melvin would refrain from trading him
because his coaching staff makes Bush worth $3 million (to throw out a number), but the Cardinals’ staff makes him worth $5 million. Good times.
I wonder what Melvin would look to acquire in a waiver trade
The major league ready “talent” that clears waivers deserves scare quotes. Maybe the next Josh Butler?
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
He's got a good junkheap eye
Kapler is the classic example, right? And Edmonds wasn’t junkheap by any means, but he wasn’t heavily pursued and has turned in a performance above most teams’ expectations. Casey McGehee was picked up after the Cubs dumped him.
As much as I’m not a DM fan, I wouldn’t count him out in finding a waiver claim that turns into a productive player next year.
Yeah, but I'm talking about a trade of one of his waiver guys
He could probably find another Coffey sitting on waivers or released in August/Sept., but that’s different than trading a guy like Bush.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
I think all 40-man roster trades after the deadline have to clear waivers
If Doug is looking for major league talent in return, they’ll also have to clear waivers. Doug would be able to arrange a trade with any waiver guys of the trading partner though it would include cash considerations unlike a normal waiver claim couldn’t he?
I got lost in your comment
What I am thinking:
1) If Dave Bush (or whoever) clears waivers, he can only be traded for guys who have also cleared waivers or who are not on the 40-man roster.
2) The players who clear waivers are probably not very valuable, be it because of their contract or talent level.
D) A team will not trade a good prospect not on the 40-man roster for two months of Dave Bush, et al.
That leaves a) not trading Dave Bush or b) trading him for players who are not really prospects but have a chance, a la Josh Butler.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
HR
According to Hit Tracker, 7 of Wolf’s HR’s given up were “just enough”, so if there was a team in a more pitcher friendly park (like he was in last year with the Dodgers) he might be somewhat effective. Another 5 of those HR’s were only in the 2nd tier of distances.
The Braves, Dodgers, Cardinals and Giants might all take a shot at him if he was waived. The Brewers would probably have to pick up the remainder of his salary this year and then throw in a boatload of cash to get anything worthwhile in return for him, and even then the return would be small.
Yeah, there's no point in them doing that.
http://www.twitter.com/mykenk
by Mykenk on Aug 3, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
5-2, I think
He started Friday July 23rd and last night was his first road game
3-0 vs Nats
1-2 vs Reds
1-0 vs. Cubs
Favre retiring
Probably not worth a Fanshot, but Favre is telling the Vikings he’s done.
I hope he’s welcomed in Green Bay in a few years, especially as he enters the Hall of Fame.
I'll believe this when it's Week 2 of the NFL season and he's not on a team
Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"
Whatever.
If I was standing outside and could see the sun, feel it’s rays on my face, and Brett Favre said “gee it sure is sunny out here” I’d look again and assume it was cloudy. If you want the truth out of Favre, ask him a question and take the opposite of whatever he says as gospel.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 3, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Right...
just like he told the Packers and fans that he was done at the press conference at Lambeau.
Everyone knows that he hates training camp and doesn’t want to bother with it. It wouldn’t surprise me to see him wait until the season is just about to start and tell everyone that he’s not ready to walk away just yet.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I just think he wouldn't bother announcing his intent to retire, though
Maybe it’s just a ploy to let the Vikings save face for not having him in training camp. I just don’t think he’d bother saying anything in that case. He didn’t last year.
Didn't he tell The Chill that he was going to retire at the end of July last year
only to have a “change of heart” in the middle of August?
SRS BSNS
Ah, okay
I still want to believe he’ll stay retired, but that last throw had to have left a bad taste in his mouth.
It made me feel great, though
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
Technically, he hasn't announced anything.
The reports are from other sources.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Of course he'll be welcomed in Green Bay
In between him and the fans there’s really only been Ted Thompson
Right
The little soap opera that happened between Favre and Thompson won’t change what he did for the organization and fans won’t forget that.
To Favre’s credit, he has never bad-mouthed the Packers fans, which I think goes a long way to the organization eventually bringing him back in (e.g. retiring his number, etc.)
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I don't think its as rosey as you make it sound
he betrayed green bay and its fans by going to the vikings and even though its taken awhile the majority of people realize what and arrogant d-bag he is.
"Cubs fans boo again – 99% of these people can’t see the plate." -Ueck
I thought he was an arrogant d-bag
from the first time he mentioned “retirement”, then “changed his mind”.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
In *completely unrelated* news...
The Vikings are desperately working on upping his contract for this year.
Huh.
by Cheeseandcorn on Aug 3, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
can we get a figure legend?
some of them I haven’t gotten yet. I suppose that’s part of the fun though for some:P
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 3, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
yup
weeks - hart - braun - fielder mcgehee - edmonds - gomez - escobar lucroy - gallardo - axford - inglett wolf - coffey - hoffman - macha
It was just something that was nagging in my mind and had to get out as an image. Most of them have been used here before. We’ve called Inglett different things from Diglett to Piglett in the past – I forget who first said Piglett, but it’s kind of stuck for me. Yoga is Gallardo and Coffey is new, and we didn’t have one for Lucroy so I used the gunslinger Lucky Luke – although I could have used Welcome Back Kottaras I spose.
1D could be counsell as well
it’s a similar enough beverage to Capri-Sun
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 3, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess
Except that I don’t see CC crashing through any walls… doesn’t he merely wave his hands and the bricks move out of his way?
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
sometimes God works in mysterious ways
by dtmeyers on Aug 3, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jon Luc(roy) Picard
I forget who came up with that one.
by Zorakathura on Aug 3, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Waves
I’ll take credit for that, and for Piglett. And for Million Lineup Macha. And for Old Vegas (though that was a collabo)…
Yep, ego’s feeling okay right now.
http://www.twitter.com/mykenk
JEd!
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Aug 3, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
Would’ve enjoyed Jed Clampett as part of that montage in honor of Edmonds.
by Cheeseandcorn on Aug 3, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
?, Hart, Braun, Fielder
McGehee, Edmonds, ?, Escobar?
?, Gallardo, Axford, ?
Wolf, ?, Hoffman, Macha
by KittenMittons on Aug 3, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
3rd row, 4th column is inglett
4th row 2nd column is coffey
Just realised!
Watch out though, any more mocking our linguistic terminology and we’ll send some more oil your way…
"I hope your name is Rick"
somehow I didn't see Wolf at 4D
I thought it was a witch or a dancing mexican
by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 3, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't see it either.
I saw it as a werewolf, but didn’t make the connection.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
From all the Cubs tweets posted by Miller Park Drunk
the best has to be:
“The fucking Chicago #Cubs ruined my Mother-Fucking vacation”.
WOW
"I hope your name is Rick"
Sorry if this has been posted
but I skipped to the bottom!
I can only hope that Gomez is placed on the DL and the Brewers are forced to start Lorenzo Cain in CF.
What will actually happen, though, is that JEd and Jinglett will split starts there with Cain on the bench.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
Yeah
but then you’d be upset when Gomez comes back and LoCa’s sent back down. They’re just trying to spare you that.
http://www.twitter.com/mykenk
That's true
At least The Mustache is saving me that pain.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Aug 3, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I prefer "shirzey"
tyvm
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Aug 3, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh Oh
Brewers 7th-rounder Joel Pierce is preparing to attend Coastal Carolina rather than turn pro. He’s a projectable RHP.
via Jim Callis (BA) twitter
Get a ife broseph
Who needs chanticleers anyway?
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
You do voodoo?
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
"Bandoliers" by Them Crooked Vultures is an OK song.
(Are we not just offering random words that rhyme? No? I’ll show myself out.)
SRS BSNS
That sounds super-informed.
I have no idea what it means, but it sounds like we’ll sign him so OK. =)
MLB has asked teams
That plan to pay their picks more than the standard bonus for their draft slot to wait until mid-August to sign those picks so they don’t throw off everyone else’s negotiations.
The Brewers are going to pay Covey above his draft slot, so they’re waiting on signing him, per the MLB’s request.
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