Brewers acquire Chris Dickerson from Cincinnati for Jim Edmonds
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Me too
If nothing else, it means that Cain is going to stay with the team for the rest of the season and playing time.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Those were my initial reactions, but
now instead of JEd taking playing time, C Dick will.
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Hard to say.
If the Brewers were seriously considering him for CF next season I could believe it. I’m thinking he’ll be more like a 4th OF. He’ll get his playing time, but I don’t think it should be a platoon situation. Granted, what I think and what Macha and Melvin thinks are sometimes completely different things.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I don't quite get the point of this deal.
Other than to have a 4th outfielder under control for the next few years.
My goodness.
Why?
Does this mean that the CarGo experiment is over. Is Jody Gerut done? I am not saying it is bad, just don’t get the fit…
by Saberilliterate on Aug 9, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Options going forward
Edmonds wasn’t coming back, why not have another guy to look at for next year?
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
by TheJay on Aug 9, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly. Gerut isn't coming back either.
A cheap lefty fourth/fifth OF is exactly what they needed.
by warwick5s on Aug 9, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
FA after the season
Finally reached six years of ML service.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
It doesnt look like he was on the 40 man for the Reds
That means that he doesn’t have to be on the Brewer’s 40 man right?
If so who gets put on it?
by BrewCrewBrian on Aug 9, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
He was on the Reds' 60-day DL
I assume Dickerson will be activated and take the spot vacated by Edmonds.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
I wouldn't be surprised if Gomez's return is delayed until Sept. 1
With a rehab assignment, etc.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
Question: (cross post)
@craigcalcaterra: Why wouldn’t the Cards have blocked waivers? Edmonds makes the Reds better. Too much history for the Cards to risk actually getting him?
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My guess:
If the Cards claim him and don’t want him, they look like jerks in Edmonds, and their fans eyes. They probably thought it’d be better to stay out of it than risk having news that they claimed him and didn’t want to work out a deal leak through the media.
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So who is Chris Dickerson?
Good move on the behalf of the Crew to get what they could from Edmonds however. To be honest I hated the guy for years considering how badly he’s destroyed the Crew. But I’m really amazed by the determination and results he’s had even at 40. GL edmonds
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
Good, cheap move
Gerut had been falling out of favor, Gomez has been disappointing, and we weren’t going anywhere this season with Edmonds trying to give his last big hoorah.
Dickerson isn’t a prospect for anything, but he was good as 4th OF for the Reds last year, worth looking at going forward and under control for the next couple years.
"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck
It's not exactly a big sample size
But here are Dickerson’s UZRs in the OF for his career:
LF: 4.3
CF: 47.9
RF: -3.2
UZR is cumulative, but those numbers are his career UZR/150 (rate stat)
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
We can measure him by one metric:
Is he better than Gomez?
captainbok: What do you like the most about milwaukee
Jeff Suppan: Captain Bok, that is a great question. Does "Bok" mean Book of Knowledge? My favorite thing about Milwaukee are the Brewers.
He's got about .150 career OPS points on Gomez and apparently somewhat comparable defensive upside.
I still think Gomez can turn it around, but Dickerson is a feasible starting CF if healthy.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Trivia Question: How many players have played for 4 different teams in the same divison
1. Jim Edmonds
2. ????
"Do not mess around when it's my head. That is personal." -Carlos Gomez
Weathers
Sure enough, Reds, Crew, Cubs, Astros.
by Cheeseandcorn on Aug 9, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
lol i already forgot he was a brewer
"Do not mess around when it's my head. That is personal." -Carlos Gomez
Todd Zeile played for the Phillies, Marlins, Mets & Expos
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
My first thought was Mike Morgan.
But alas, he maxed out at 3.
by Cheeseandcorn on Aug 9, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Bobo Newsom managed to play for 6 of the 8 AL teams during the 1930s and 40s.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
Sheehan's comment:
Reds traded Chris Dickerson for Jim Edmonds today. Makes them a bit better, since they’ll play Edmonds and they wouldn’t have played Dickerson once he got healthy. Don’t hate it for Brewers, who get some LH OBP and OF defense for, basically, free. He’s a nice match with Gomez in CF.
Get a ife broseph
Help me out with this one
I’m a Reds fan, and overall I think this was a positive move for us. Edmonds usually seems to play well against the Reds, and hopefully he can do it against other teams while wearing a wishbone C. He has the veteran presence the Reds love, and big game experience that will be needed in this pennant race. Does he still have anything left in the tank, or is Walt Jocketty just getting the band back together (Scott Rolen, Miguel Cairo, Russ Springer, even Aaron Miles is still on our ledger).
Chris Dickerson is a nice player, and can be a real defensive asset, particularly in CF. He’s shown some good power, and has a nice OBP usually. The problem with him is that he seems to get hurt all the damn time. And when he was healthy, he seemed to be a bit of a whiner, or at least a little too unguarded in his public comments. Clubhouse cohesion seems to be a big factor for why the Reds are doing well this year, and Dickerson didn’t quite fit in.
To me, it doesn’t seem like a huge trade, but both teams get something a little bit better for their circumstances.
Doesn't really sound like you need any help
That pretty much sums it up.
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He's got some left in the tank.
I’m assuming he’ll play less than he was with the Brewers considering CarGo’s ineptitude, so if you can give him a bit to heal up he’ll probably play quite well down the stretch.
Our outfield has really been struggling lately
Jonny Gomes, Drew Stubbs, and Jay Bruce have all been struggling for at least a month. It’s to the point where Laynce Nix looks like a viable starting candidate. So in that regard, it will definitely be a bonus to be able to start a productive Edmonds out there, likely in a left field platoon, but possibly getting some time in center too. Chris Heisey has done very well as a rookie callup (and was the Reds minor league player of the year last year), but until Bruce and Stubbs especially figure things out, I don’t mind having Edmonds there.
I've been surprised at how well he can still hit.
Defensive and especially baserunning have been painful, but the man can still rake for a 40-year-old.
by Cheeseandcorn on Aug 9, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Sad to hear that about baserunning
The Reds have been extremely good at going first to third this year, but every other aspect of their baserunning has been pretty poor. Shame that Edmonds won’t help that. And we’ve also made our bones by having a good defense. Edmonds may have declined some, but I’d still wager he’s a better left field glove than Jonny Gomes.
totally disagree
No, he doesn’t run great, but his jumps are so good…he can legit still play CF at age 40. I believe his defensive metrics have been good.
Kyle gets mad when I post them
Plus I actually wanted to talk some baseball for a change. Maybe I can find one for you though…
Meh.
Even if Dickerson turns out to be useless, they’re adding to their credibility with aging veterans by keeping their unspoken promise to Edmonds and getting him to a contender for late in the year. I’m not in love with the deal, but they weren’t going to get much for him, and this way they have the appearance of keeping their word and treating him with respect.
Assuming Edmonds doesn’t come out this afternoon saying they enver consulted with him and he didn’t want to go to Cincy.
Besides. This way he gets a chance to screw the Cards.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 9, 2010 12:57 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yep, they're keeping a promise here
By letting Edmonds play down the stretch for a contender, and managed to get a little something in return. And as an outfielder with a big mouth, Dick can get in line behind Braun.
oh god my eyes
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Aug 9, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
...
C’mon, we’re talking baseball here. It’s a game full of big sticks and balls, if we let ourselves get distracted by innuendo we’d never get anything done.
Well, C-Dick's gonna
be in uniform tonight.
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by Mykenk on Aug 9, 2010 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Also, I'm going with C-Dick.
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by Mykenk on Aug 9, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't expect anything less from you
"Do not mess around when it's my head. That is personal." -Carlos Gomez
That was sort of his preferred nomenclature at Red Reporter
Though we were getting some good mileage out of The Lorax, because of his commitment to recycling programs. Also, isn’t he friends with Ryan Braun? I’m pretty sure he was at Braun’s t-shirt party last year.
No
It was an actor that goes by the name “Common”. He’s a rapper too.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Wade was in the movie too.
I wasn’t sure if you meant who the star was.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
no...it wasn't the main character
it was an actual NBA player in a cameo that was wearing the Remetee in the movie.
Gotcha
I didn’t see the movie, so I didn’t know who was wearing the Remetee.
Actually, I found a trailer to that movie, and it’s Dwight Howard who’s wearing the Remetee… not Wade.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
It's finnish
for “douchebag”
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by Mykenk on Aug 9, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
MMA fighters are all about wearing Remetee or similarly styled shirts.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I found this
Dickerson along with fellow baseball player Jack Cassel are founders of WePlayGreen.org, a foundation that brings professional athletes together to inspire communities to build awareness of the growing environmental crisis. Several athletes including Chase Utley, Jay Bruce, Ryan Braun, Matt Cassel, Jacoby Ellsbury etc. are on board to spread the awareness
Maybe that’s the source of their relationship, idk.
http://www.twitter.com/mykenk
by Mykenk on Aug 9, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
One of those athletes is not like the others
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
I was referring to the fact Matt Cassel plays for a KC team not named the Royals
But that works, too, I guess.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
Fun with Sample Sizes
Dickerson in eight career games against the Diamondbacks is .364/.462/.409 with three runs, a double and two RBIs
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Cards, Cubs, Brewers and now Reds...
Whats the record for playing for the most teams in one division?
by thefreewheelin76 on Aug 9, 2010 1:22 PM CDT reply actions
The downside...
is that if Dickerson is going to be on the roster next year they’ll need to make a choice between having a 12-man pitching staff, getting rid of Gomez or Inglett for someone who can backup shortstop, or having Inglett be the backup at short.
I don't see Gomez and Cain being on the same roster to start the season.
Inglett can play IF and OF, so I think he sticks around.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I would assume Craig Counsel will not be with the team next year
so they’ll be looking for another guy to back up SS, anyway. Maybe they’ll be sending Inglett to shortstop school. He’s already logged 3 games there in his career so I’m sure he’s fine!
I doubt it
They’ll probably pick up another veteran SS. Of course, they could always bring up Cruz or Olmedo.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Let's cross that bridge when we get there
He hasn’t even played one game yet. As far as I’m concerned though, Gomez can work on his swing in the minors.
"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck
by GormanBraun28 on Aug 9, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Amen! Gomez is a project - not in any way an answer to any Brewer need
That said, I think the trade for Gomez still has some upside, in a year or two.
Statistics: A bunch of numbers looking around for an argument. G. Burgy, Rockville, MD
by heybatterbatter on Aug 9, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Not next season
Bench:
C – Kottaras
IF – Inglett
IF – ?
OF – Gomez/Cain
OF – Dickerson
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Free agent, hopefully.
Somebody like Jerry Hairston Jr. would be nice.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Did Craig announce his retirement? Who's going to pick him up?
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by heybatterbatter on Aug 9, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't see him coming back
not after this season.
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by Mykenk on Aug 9, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's going to be busy managing the Brewers.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
MLB doesn't do that.
I bet there have been very few moves from the field to management in one year. (Not that I wouldn’t love to see it, maybe player-manager. Although that prospect would probably cause the first 1000 post thread at BCB0.)
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by heybatterbatter on Aug 9, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Recently at least
Pete Rose was the last player-manager.
It is not terribly uncommon for a career minor leaguer to become a coach overnight (the other Corey Hart did it).
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
Oh, we've crossed the 1,000 comment threshold before.
Just ask BUCKS.
by Cheeseandcorn on Aug 9, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
He's retiring to spend more time with his family.
On Mount Olympus. Drinking Ambrosia.
Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.
Right, I think going to a 12-man pitching staff is the best bet
Having that short bench has sucked this year
Hopefully they have starting pitching that lets them get away with a 12-man staff
That thought is sad in so many ways.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
Apparently his splits heavily favor hitting against RHP
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Only the ones who can't hit LHP
:)
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by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks, Jim.
I’ll be pulling for him to get into the HoF once he’s eligible.
It’s not like the Brewers biggest need is another strong defensive CF, but it’s hard to complain about this trade. Solid return for 2 months of Edmonds.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
I predict
Edmonds will pull a hammy in about 2 weeks.
We’ll pass the cards in the division standings and come up one game short of the Reds or will tie with them and have to play a run-off.
Okay, that’s pure optimism. I guess I really am missing sleep – that’s totally unlike me.
And Chris Dickerson will go 5-for-5 with the winning RBI in the tie-breaker?
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Pessimism setting back in
Edmonds will return from the DL just in time to smack the go-ahead double.
Or so it appeared
But Edmonds stumbles between first and second and Dickerson runs in to tag him out, continuing his run and beating the runner to home plate for an unassisted double play to end the game.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Squirrels start talking to you yet?
Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.
Huh
I thought Dickerson was the guy who threw out the winning run at home plate last August 25, ending a furious rally in the bottom of the ninth and sending the game to extra innings, where the Brewers lost 8-6. Guess it was Darnell McDonald. Lame.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
I think Hart's extension signalled the end of that, unless we were going to put Gamel in CF.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Unless they move Hart to 1B if/when Fielder is traded.
Or unless they think that Gamel’s more marketable to teams that think they can hide him in RF and avoid all the defensive mayhem at 3b.
I don’t think either scenario is very likely (especially when they could just plug Gamel in at 1B if Fielder is dealt), but they’re at least possible.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 9, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Moving Hart to 1B just doesn't make sense to me
More than likely it’ll be Gamel plugged in there. His defense at 3rd isn’t awful, apparently his big issue isn’t fielding but rather throwing (as we saw with a couple nice plays diving stops during his stint).
Heck, 1B might be the best thing that will happen to him. Less worrying about making accurate throws and more on how to fix some of those holes in his swing.
"I signed with the Milwaukee Braves for three-thousand dollars. That bothered my dad at the time because he said he didn't have that kind of dough." - Ueck
by GormanBraun28 on Aug 9, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Hart has played 1B
He was drafted, I think, as a 1st baseman. I believe he played there for a season in A ball until the Brewers drafted Fielder. In theory, at least, he wouldn’t have as much to learn at first base as Gamel would. There’s also an argument to be made that Hart’s defense in RF is never going to get better than it is and it’s not very good right now. Hart is also really tall which makes me a “bigger target” as the saying goes.
By 2012, Gamel could worse or better than Hart is in right field, but I wouldn’t be as worried as many others to see them both trying new positions next year if it means having both of their bats in the lineup.
But...
Changing positions could affect Hart’s hitting (if you buy into the Hall rationale).
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I buy the Hall rationale
when we’re talking about a guy moving to one of the most crucial positions on the field, when he’s never played that position before.
When it’s somebody going from one relatively unimportant defensive position to another, not so much.
SRS BSNS
Hall actually benefited from moving to one of the most crucial positions on the field
Given that his ridiculous 2006 was his first season predominantly at SS.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Some 2009 Chris Dickerson projections (pre-injuries)
Marcel: .282/.367/.485/.851
Bill James: .268/.360/.454/.814
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
Where did the slugging come from, I wonder
His brief time in the majors in 2008?
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
He did slug .435 and .479 in AAA in '07 and '08, so maybe that plus age.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
It's almost like the central is pooling it's talent to beat the Cards.
Maybe Cincy wants Hoffman too…
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 9, 2010 2:00 PM CDT reply actions
Doug Melvin on Dickerson: (from JSOnline)
“He can play all three outfield positions. Plus, he’s a major leaguer. We’re still trying to win games. I’m hoping we can win 12 of 15 and get back in it. I don’t know if we can do that.”
Just shut up, Doug. Please.
Thank God he didn’t land one of those pesky A-ball types with upside. That would have been awful.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 9, 2010 2:08 PM CDT reply actions
12 of 15?
I know it’s a short run, but he wants to go .800? What the hell? Or is he playing to the dumb as a box of rocks fans?
11 games back
That implies we need both the Cardinals and the Reds to go 4 of 15 as well. Doug didn’t have to add the part about “trying to win games.”
back in it
could mean 4-5 back, but I know what ya mean.
Do the Reds play the Cards or do we play either anytime in the next 15?
Battle for which
crappy NL central team gets swept in the first round of the playoffs!!
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No way to get an "A baller with upside"
for a month and a half of a broken CF.
http://www.twitter.com/mykenk
Nothing wrong with an AAA baller with upside either.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Depends
I don’t see much “upside”. I see him being what he’s been. Which is still good for Edmonds.
http://www.twitter.com/mykenk
Plenty of upside.
He was supposed to have continued to get better before injuries kind of derailed him in ‘09/’10.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
High potential, unlikely to fulfill potential.
But that small chance that he could be really, really awesome.
Too bad the Brewers aren't a professional football franchise
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Oh I know.
Doesn’t keep Melvin’s comment from being stupid.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 9, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Woo hoo! 65-62 or bust!
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
I wish you hadn't done the math
To go on a ridiculous hot streak like 12 of 15 and still only be 65-62 makes me sad. Now you have to say something to cheer me up.
Winning 12 of 15 is more likely than losing 15 of 12
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
by TheJay on Aug 9, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
This kind of thinking ...
Plus, he’s a major leaguer
… is how we ended up with Carlos Gomez.
Have we just completely stopped scouting the minor league affiliates of other teams?
SRS BSNS
by Rubie Q on Aug 9, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yep.
Seriously, that’s the level of analysis people like me are capable of, and even I think it’s stupid. Not saying this is a bad trade because Edmonds was gone in 2 months regardless and if you got something for him, you’ve made a good move. But just because the guy can get plugged into the roster right away doesn’t mean he’s superior to other available options.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 9, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
... even though there probably weren't any other available options...
… it’s not this deal; it’s just the mind-set that makes me crazy.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 9, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
"He's a major leaguer" just sounds like something Melvin has to say to appease the fans.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This fan is not appeased by that comment.
And I think it was a good deal.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 9, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
By fans I mean general fanbase (the word "casuals" is dumb, but you know what I mean)
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by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I know.
I don’t think he’s giving casuals enough credit though. I’m a casual, and I don’t need smoke blown up my a**. “He’s a major leaguer” makes me afraid we just traded for Mench and Nix again, even when the guy we got doesn’t deserve the comparison.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 9, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
No, you're not.
Casuals don’t visit BCB.
If they are on the web at all, it’s at Old Vegas or somewhere of similar ilk.
by klwillis45 on Aug 9, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Doesn't look all that OV-ey.
Lots of talk about how long C-Dick is under team control, freeing up playing time for LoCain, etc.
SRS BSNS
Yeah
I made it through the first page without any major meltdowns.
Realizing there were at least 7 other pages made me stop.
http://www.twitter.com/mykenk
Right
That’s when some good nuggets start popping up…
“What the H___? It doesn’t make sense to trade a competitive player who’s
a proven winner for an injured unproved 205 hitter! Has Melvin gone off the
deep end just to make a trade?”
“It should have been Hoffman”
“Good for Edmonds, now trade Hoffman and get a hard throwing AA/AAA pitcher.”
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I thought you were making those up. I was going to commend you on your use of the word,
“unproved.”
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by tcyoung on Aug 9, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
First two comments
Must be nice to get “overpaid” for doing absolutely nothing.
and
Offer him $1.5 M signing bonus and settle for $1.7; if he insists on $2.0 tell him to practice saying “Welcome to WalMart.”
Jinkies.
This is an exciting move.
I look forward to seeing what nullacct replaces the easter island head with.
by klwillis45 on Aug 9, 2010 2:13 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
well, with a name like dickerson
he should probably have nerd goggles
but until he plays there’s really nothing to go on
Deputy, taking his job seriously
RT: @Haudricourt: Chris Dickerson first learned he might be coming to Milwaukee in text message from Ryan Braun.
http://www.twitter.com/mykenk
RT: @Haudricourt: Dickerson said his agent hadn’t even learned of trade when Braun sent the text message.
http://www.twitter.com/mykenk
So, uh,
The FO consulted with Braun on this? Why? How does that make any sense? Maybe DM told JEd and let JEd tell the guys. It’s not like they were all real close though, like if Fielder or Hart had been traded where they’d all been playing together for years. I hope it isn’t true. Maybe Braun’s text message was something vague like a rumor he’d heard. There are plenty of rational reasons Braun knew before C-Dick’s agent knew.
Who says they consulted with him?
I just assumed Braun found out before C-Dick did. Not a big deal.
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Aug 9, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm guessing DB (Deputy Braun) wanted to let Edmonds know before finalizing the deal with Jocketty.
so he told C. Dick that there was a chance he could be coming to MKE before Jocketty could officially tell him.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
Braun orchistrated this trade
and was waiting on DMs blessing
by Jeo on Aug 9, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Excellent thread to peruse (just got here).
I’ll hire you people as my GM when I win the lottery, buy the team, donate it to the city, but remain chief executive… (snap)
Anyway, nice thread.
Statistics: A bunch of numbers looking around for an argument. G. Burgy, Rockville, MD
Oh, wait. I'd have to win ten lotteries to buy a franchise. ;-)
Statistics: A bunch of numbers looking around for an argument. G. Burgy, Rockville, MD
by heybatterbatter on Aug 9, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I love this Old Vegas comment on the trade
Now our best hitter of the bench is joe inglett followed by craig counsell, kottaras and now this dickerson guy. meaning is we need a late inning bomb, its yovani to the rescue.
Joe Inglett’s pinch-hitting splits this year: .326/.426/.543
Craig Counsell’s pinch-hitting splits this year: .290/.371/.323 (so no “late-inning bombs,” but the man can the load bases for one)
George Kottaras’ overall line this year (since he’ll never be pinch-hitting): .200/.320/.438
And Dickerson is 2-7 pinch-hitting this year with a single and a triple.
Yup, looks like that bench is ground zero for the Brewers’ struggles this year.
by Cheeseandcorn on Aug 9, 2010 3:17 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I disagree with the process, but I agree with the conclusion.
I’d love to see Yovani in some more early inning PH situations.
Can't hurt
Guy can hit
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by GormanBraun28 on Aug 9, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Can hurt
how pissed would you be if he re-injured his knee rounding first in a PH role?
I know he hurt it in the field the first time and I am not against using him to pinch hit, just not constantly.
by Jeo on Aug 9, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's what I was thinking.
I’m fine with Gallardo PHing a bit more, but a PH at-bat in a lost season is the not the time to risk your franchise ace’s health.
by Cheeseandcorn on Aug 9, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Can't hurt?
Didn’t a reliever who hit against the Brewers end up going onto the DL recently?
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Dan Runzler hurt himself during his AB
Coffey hurt his thumb batting earlier this year.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
GAH.
Escobar 9
Counsell 6
Weeks 4
Fielder 3
McGehee 5
Cain 8
Inglett 7
Lucroy 2
Narveson 1
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yeah, wtf is up with that?
He’s finally hitting again. 8 game hitting streak or something like that?
I'm hoping this changes by game time
No reason to not give C-Dick a start if you’re benching 2 of the regulars.
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Macha took Braun up on his invite to visit his restaurant
And was infuriated to find no Salisbury Steak on the menu.
by nullacct on Aug 9, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Still...
I’ll probably pay closer attention to the game to see if Escobar gets any action in RF
Get a ife broseph
It's tough
to get action when you’re rocking braces in your 20’s.
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by Mykenk on Aug 9, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
WOW!!
I just noticed that! We’ve been talking about Gamel in RF. Gamel can slide into SS and Escobar can move into RF. Genius!
Clearly just setting Esky up
to play all 9 positions tonight in decreasing order. Nothing to see here.
Towlieppan: "You wanna throw high?"
Hmmm
While I’m sure this isn’t actually the case, the lineup supports that with both Counsell and Inglett in the starting lineup to swap around positions.
Of topic: Counsell and Inglett both end with double consonants.
Don't forget smartass!
And baseball. Kind of ironic, hmm?
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by GormanBraun28 on Aug 9, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
double Ls beats double Ts
anyone see “Man of the Year”
the movie was funny, but the plot made me want to gag.
The sticking point is shortstop (and 2B)
It works if we assume McGehee can play 1st base and C-Dick will be there by the 8th inning. Since only Counsell and Escobar can play shortstop Escobar has to pitch the 8th inning.
1st: Escobar starts in RF (9)
2nd: Escobar moves to CF (8); Cain moves to RF
3rd: Escobar moves to LF (7); Cain moves to CF; Inglett moves to RF
4th: Escobar moves to C (2); Lucroy exits; Hart comes in at RF; Inglett moves to LF
5th: Escobar moves to 2B (4); Weeks exits; Kottaras enters at C
6th: Escobar moves to 3B (5); Fielder exits; McGehee moves to 1B; Inglett moves to 2B; Braun comes in LF
7th: Escobar moves to 1B (3); McGehee moves to 3B
8th: Escobar moves to P (1); current pitcher exits; McGehee moves to 1B; Braun moves to 3B; Dickerson moves to LF
9th Escobar moves to SS (6); Counsell exits; Axford enters to close the game
No one plays in a 100% unfamiliar position with McGehee at 1st and Braun at 3rd being the most questionable moves (Escobar, aside).
by ecocd on Aug 9, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Interesting...
Macha must have hired the manatees who write Family Guy to pick out a lineup for tonight.
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by GormanBraun28 on Aug 9, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh.
McCalvy says that C-Dick won’t be in Milwaukee until 5, so maybe the lineup changes if he makes it here on time?
http://www.twitter.com/mykenk
so...
I assume that means that cain gets CF, dickerson LF, Inglett RF, escobar SS, Counsell bench?
Or will they do something mind numbingly dumb like dropping Weeks and shifting Inglett from RF to second, leaving Esky in the outfield?
Run, C-Dick, Run!
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like that for any great Dickerson play
C-Dick Run!
C-Dick Catch!
C-Dick Hit!
If only we had a Jane…
by Cheeseandcorn on Aug 9, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
With a cute orange knit cap!
Applying Simpsons and Star Wars quotes to Brewers discussions since 2009.
by Yar Nivek on Aug 9, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, if things REALLY get tight...
Braun was a third basemen…
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by GormanBraun28 on Aug 9, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
He stood by third base sometimes, that's true.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
So, just to verify, that's the team's 6th, 7th, and 8th outfielders out of spring training starting tonight
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
I think so
And 6th starter.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
No wonder these guys are so good!
Playoffs, here we come!
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by GormanBraun28 on Aug 9, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone have a time machine handy?
How many people would’ve given up on the season out of Spring Training if they knew this would be the starting lineup On August 9?
the economy would be doomed for several more years
better things like this come gradually.
Imagine the entire state of Wisconsin without any men over the age of 14.
4th catcher?
perhaps at the start of ST. Not that played in the reg season or was set at the end of spring training. Zaun, Kott, Lucroy.
I count Salome as 3rd since he was on the 40-man on April 1
Lucroy was not.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
okay.
I know salome was the starter at AAA and Lucroy at AA, but I thought that was more political than anything.
Is Salome dropped from the 40 man yet?
That is officially the weirdest Brewers lineup I can recall seeing.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
We've seen this before
It’s the Ned Yost Ken Macha Sunday Monday lineup
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by GormanBraun28 on Aug 9, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Nah
that was just all the backups in. Not everyone at random positions.
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Ken Macha likes to live dangerously
There’s a reason it’s a “Monday lineup” and not a “Sunday lineup”.
Hell, if you were out the door at the end of the season, wouldn’t you make a lineup one day while you were drunk?
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by GormanBraun28 on Aug 9, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I tried this on my softball team two weeks ago
just had everyone rotate every inning, and I pitched the first
it did not go well. at all.
Move everybody up three so Inglett can pitch
Escobar 3
Counsell 9
Weeks 7
Fielder 6
Cain 2
Inglett 1
Lucroy 5
Narveson 4
Fielder at SS, hm…
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Narveson should catch
Benny DiStefano, your footnote is no more!
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
Yost would just bench the starters and put in their backups
Playing Escobar in RF?
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Shades of Tony Graffinino in LF
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
by TheJay on Aug 9, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
UR CUMING HUR! LOLZ CUL8R!
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by Mykenk on Aug 9, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Since Doug whacked him with the ruler.
And made him write “I will not leak trade info.” 100 times on the blackboard.
Think he's ready to get a shot at the majors again?
Small sample size (55 PA), but Dickerson is hitting .442/.528/.767 in AAA this season.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
McCalvy:
Dickerson missed his flight, now not scheduled to arr. until after game starts. Leaves #Brewers w/ one available bench man: Backup C.
E: Dickerson (1, transit)
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 4:50 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
"Available" isn't completely true
Braun and Hart are available to PH in high leverage late innings AB. Otherwise, be prepared to see a relief pitcher go up there without a bat tonight. Brewers playing with 25-26 outs tonight boys!
I bet gamer Dave Bush would play LF in a pinch
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
That is true
We have a pinch runner available. He’s nearly guaranteed to score, too, so Macha will have to choose wisely when to use him.
Jordan Schelling:
#Brewers LHP Randy Wolf preparing to play outfield if needed tonight. Braun, Hart unavailable. Dickerson yet to arrive.
Now I kind of want to see that.
Ryan Braun: He loves it.
by SRB on Aug 9, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Dickerson
After reading up on www.WePlayGreen.org, perhaps he didn’t miss his flight…he is just waiting for a more eco-friendly flight than what was originally offered.
by Infield Fly Rule on Aug 9, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Make it 2 errors
@AdamMcCalvy: Now hearing Dickerson missed a second flight. If true, #Brewers had better hope for a clean game.
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How did he do that
Also, whatever happened to Mark A’s plane that Mike Cameron used once upon a time?
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
He's a baseball player
not a human being capable of everyday tasks like keeping track of time.
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Small market teams can't compete with
the big ones, with their fancy airlines. You’ll only get so far with priceline. I blame Shatner.
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I gotta say
Chris Dickerson sure looks like he should be able to hit for power.
by Noah Jarosh on Aug 9, 2010 5:21 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
@AdamMcCalvy: Now hearing Dickerson missed a second flight. If true, #Brewers had better hope for a clean game.
"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10
I think Melvin got a better return for Edmonds than he did for Hardy.
Weird.
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by Fatter than Joey on Aug 10, 2010 5:54 AM CDT reply actions
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