Reds 6, Brewers 1
by Rubie Q on Sep 1, 2010 9:44 PM CDT
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PrintWP: Aroldis Chapman (1-0; first Major League win)
LP: Todd Coffey (2-3)
HR: Ryan Hanigan (5)
MVP: Chris Narveson (.362 on the bump, .167 at the dish)
LVP: Coffey (-.586)
Graph of Lukewarm Coffey
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To the surprise of many -- not the least of whom was some chucklehead who wrote a recap of the game before the game even started -- the Brewers and Reds got mixed up in a pitchers' duel for the first six innings of tonight's game. Johnny Cueto scattered five hits and a walk over six innings, allowing only one earned run on a two-out single by his counterpart, Chris Narveson, in the top of the fifth.
Narveson was up to the task tonight, blanking the Reds over 6.1 innings. But after Narveson walked Ramon Hernandez with one down in the seventh, Ken Macha decided it was time to send the NarvDog to his kennel for the night. What followed was a parade of bed crapping by three Brewer relievers: Todd Coffey gave up a double, a single, and a three-run homer, Mike McClendon ceded a walk and a single, and Zach Braddock allowed a two-RBI single to Scott Rolen. That was enough to put away the Brewers, who mustered only a Casey McGehee single in the last three innings.
On a happier note: Jeremy Jeffress made his Major League debut in the eighth inning. His fastball command was a bit spotty, as you'd expect with the adrenaline going, but he touched 97.7 on the gun (according to GameDay) and was consistently at 96 with the heater. Jeffress allowed an opposite-field single to Miggy Cairo, but induced a 4-6-3 double play from Paul Janish on a tasty, low-and-away curve, and then retired Ryan Hanigan on a groundout to Rickie Weeks.
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I am thrilled Jeffress hit 97.7
I would have been disappointed if it was only 97.4.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
by TheJay on Sep 1, 2010 9:55 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Sep 1, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, if you round it ...
SRS BSNS
by Rubie Q on Sep 1, 2010 10:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I was hoping
for 98.6.
"I've been banging a lot of bratwurst lately".
Uecker during the 8th inning of his first game back
Is that when the hype gets up to fever pitch?
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
Wouldn't that be 99?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Sep 2, 2010 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
rather than body-temperature pitch?
i think 99 would even be in the realm of normal variation. got to crank it up to 100 for it to count.
maybe the Brewers should just shut down Yo for the season
and put Jeffress in his spot. Get him to pitch 4 innings and give 2-3 innings to Parra. Then just leave it all to the bullpen.
Might as well
There’s nothing to gain by putting Yo out there, and his name isn’t big enough yet to be a real gate draw
Yeah?
So, figure out if he’s hurt. if he’s hurt, shut him down, I’m all for that. If he’s just pitching like crap, don’t shut him down, let him learn to work through it. Can’t always shut down a pitcher just because he’s pitching like garbage, can you? I say unless he’s hurt, or has worked an uncharacteristically high number of innings, shutting him down is stupid. Not gonna shut down Braun or Prince if they have an 0-20 stretch, are you?
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by Mykenk on Sep 2, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Pretty sure they would get at least one day off at that point
by Jeo on Sep 2, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
not prince
as manager/general manager, I wouldn’t want the beat down put on me for interrupting his consecutive games streak.
I think this is a pretty risky idea
Not so much to shut down Gallardo, but to insert Jeffress into his spot.
The guy has been in relief all year long (and thats not for that long at all), so he’s not really stretched out enough for that, and I’m also of the opinion that he probably shouldnt have even been given a call up. He has a lot to work on still, and if you insert him into the rotation for 5 or 6 starts and he fails, or walks tons of guys, or gets injured…you just have another Manny Parra on your hands in the future or something worse.
that's why I want him to pitch 4 innings at the MOST
I’m well aware that he’s not fully stretched out yet
by ilikeburritos on Sep 2, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
So, you want to see if someone that profiles as an MLB closer is an effective starter...
even though he hasn’t started a game in a year?
Would you also try that with Axford and Braddock?
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
How long do we wait before it's Melvin's fault?
There isn’t a single person on the team from 2002 when he took over. This roster is entirely his design.
I still want to know what's his fault?
Losing to a playoff team? Having a bad pitching staff? Having a bipolar offense? Not perennially making the playoffs after only 8 years?
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Well, offense, then too, right?
I know, I know, the offense isn’t a problem. But, hell, it was last night.
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Me neither
Team needs to score more runs. Well, not really. Just knock the standard deviation down a skosh, and we wouldn’t be in 4th place.
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let us all use our minds to will the standard deviation down
I’d be better with moving the median up, but what do I know?
Suppan = Mistake
Wolf = unknown as of yet
Hawkins = Good signing, unfortunate injury
Davis = Low risk signing, unfortunate performace, unfortunate injury
Hoffman = Mistake.
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Re: Hawkins.
A one-year deal might have been OK. Two years for a 37-year-old setup man is questionable, at best, in my mind.
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
Fair enough.
Though I figured (on signing) he’d be our old-man closer for 2011, so I took the “closer premium” into account there.
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$92 million
Wolf = I’m pretty sure we know what we have here, and he’s only going to get older and expensiver.
Yeah, he's also been the teams best pitcher for the last 2 months.
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by Mykenk on Sep 2, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's a little disingenuous
you can’t justify the length of contract by two good months.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Sep 2, 2010 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Clarification
Was Hoffman a mistake when they originally signed him or his second contract?
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Don't forget Riske
and us not know what Mat Gamel can do in the majors with consistent at bats
You can lump Riske in with the other "unfortunate injuries"
As far as Gamel, his lack of playing time is probably more because of Macha than DM.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Nope.
Having a bad year. It happens. Pitchers are underperforming, and we’re starting 3 rookies regularly. Any contenders with 3 rookies in the everyday lineup? It’s a rebuilding year, and if anyone thought otherwise, then… really?
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I think Mark A. thought otherwise.
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
Are we talking about expectations at the beginning of the year
or expectations now? Because we weren’t starting three rookies at the beginning of the year.
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
I saw this year as a
“gelling” year, where the team figures things out, then competes next year with pretty much the same roster. Obviously, neither of those things are going to happen.
I don’t know what Mark A. thought, but I thought there were too many new pieces to expect everything to fall together in the first year.
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Seeing as he spent $90 million on payroll
I don’t think Mark A. viewed this as a rebuilding or gelling year.
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
I think its probably important to distinguish between what you thought, and what the Front Office thought
From comments made by Mark A. and Doug Melvin, they both believed they were a solid pitcher or two away from the playoffs this year. They obviously bought into Rick Peterson’s “if this team had an average pitching staff last year, it would have been a playoff team” bullshit. Sure that’s probably a true statement, but ifs, buts, etc. Obviously the FO thought that 2009 was NOT a fluke year for Trevor Hoffman, they even locked him up early and Melvin said something along the lines of that being a draw for good SPs.
I think the FO definitely thought this would be at least a wild card contender this season. I know hindsight is 20/20, but a lot of people called a spade a spade at the time.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Sep 2, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you saying Melvin's made no progress in his tenure?
I don’t know about that; I remember a couple winning seasons and a playoff appearance and I don’t remember those in the years before he was hired.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
Agree
He’s never shown that he’s a head case like Parra. I do agree that he shouldn’t be tossed into the rotation, but that’s only because he’s been way better out of the pen. I’ve already argued why he should be brought up and I think he showed why as well.
by Mr. McGehee on Sep 2, 2010 9:21 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I gotta blame Macha on this one. Usually he just leaves in a starter for to long. Instead he pulled Narveson while he was still hot. And then put in Coffey, who hasn’t been on lately. I would have rather seen Villenueva or Jeffress before Coffey. I would have liked to see Narv go 7 innings.
"A ringing single for David Eckstein who, in my view, is the perfect size for an American male." -Bob Costas
You'd rather see a minor leaguer in that situation?
I disagreed with pulling Narveson, but definitely would not have gone to either of those guys in that situation.
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I'm fine with Narv getting pulled there
He’s no guarantee after six. Well, after four, but when it gets to six you’re pushing it.
Yeah, I was okay with it.
I wouldn’t have done it, but I understand why it was done, and wasn’t angry about the move or anything. Shit happens, Coffey’s been pretty okay lately, was bound to get caught up with eventually.
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Shit happens
Is a good way to put it. Macha makes enough mistakes, we don’t need to invent them. Pulling Narv was fine.
Agreed
They’ve already established that they have Narveson on a strict PC (probably around 100). He was already at 97 pitches and maybe they started seeing signs of him struggling.
If Narveson was left in the game and proceeded to give up a big inning, Macha would’ve been ridiculed for not pulling him sooner.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Villy is hardly a minor leaguer
"A ringing single for David Eckstein who, in my view, is the perfect size for an American male." -Bob Costas
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