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It was an emotional day at Miller Park yesterday, and the tears flowed as fans said goodbye to several popular Brewers potentially playing their last home game at Miller Park. The most notable of those players was Prince Fielder, who went 1-for-3 with a solo home run and a pair of walks before being lifted for a pinch runner in the eighth inning and received a standing ovation as he left the field. After the game, he gave this quote to Anthony Witrado:

"I’m still here but there’s been more talk about (a trade). … I like all my teammates and I grew up with these guys. It would be disappointing if I had to leave but as of now I’m still a Brewer."

The game ended with fans getting to hear Hells Bells one last time, as Trevor Hoffman recorded the final three outs. Adam McCalvy and Craig Calcaterra noted that it was Hoffman's 35th game finished this season, which raised the buyout on his 2011 option from $500k to $750k.

Meanwhile, yesterday might have been Chris Capuano's final 2010 start, and he made it a good one. Capuano needed just 72 pitches to work his way through six innings, allowing a run on four hits, walking and striking out just one before leaving the game with a strained left groin. His spot in the current six-man rotation would come up again on Saturday, but it would be just as easy to skip him if he's not 100%.

Capuano has used September to make a strong statement to the Brewer organization. He's posted a 2.37 ERA over five September starts, going at least six innings in each of his last four outings. He's benefiting from a very low opponents BABIP (.203 in September), but he's also throwing a lot of strikes (17 K to 9 BB) and keeping the ball in the park (3 HR over 30.1 IP). It'll be interesting to see what the Brewers do with Capuano going forward: He most likely deserves a chance to win a spot in the starting rotation, but his injury history makes him difficult to rely on.

With Capuano and Mark Rogers starting over the weekend, the Brewers sent two pitchers to the mound with extensive rehab histories. Hang With 'em Brewers! put the challenge of those rehabs into perspective. Jack Moore of Disciples of Uecker recapped Rogers' long and winding road.

Mark DiFelice is hoping to follow the path those two have left behind. After spending the entire 2010 season rehabbing from shoulder surgery, DiFelice signed a minor league deal with an invitation to spring training for 2011 (FanShot).

Ryan Braun went 2-for-4 yesterday with a pair of two run home runs, giving him 25 HR and 100 RBI this season. By doing so he became just the third Brewer ever to post three consecutive 100 RBI seasons, joining Richie Sexson (2001-03) and Prince Fielder (2007-09). Fielder could extend his streak to four straight if he drives in 20 runs this week.

The attendance for yesterday's home finale was 29,059, putting the Brewers at 2,776,531 for the season. That's the lowest figure since 2006, when the 75-87 Brewers drew just 2.3 million. With the win, the Brewers finished 40-41 at home.

Other notes from the field:

The Chorizo (and mini-Chorizo) won the season's final sausage race yesterday. Wezen-ball has a look at the Brewers' record when various sausages triumph: The Crew went 17-9 this season when the Brat or Chorizo won, but just 23-32 when the Polish, Hot Dog or Italian came out on top.

Looking ahead, the Brewers open their final road trip of the season as they start a four game set against the Mets tonight. Carson Cistulli of FanGraphs isn't too excited for tonight's game, giving the Dave Bush/Mike Pelfrey matchup a 4 out of 10 on his NERD scale.

The Brewer rookies will likely be happy to get this road trip over with: The trip to New York was the Brewers' annual "rookie hazing day," and Adam McCalvy reports costumes included Mike McClendon dressed as a dominatrix and Jeremy Jeffress as a giant slice of pizza.

Yovani Gallardo is scheduled to make his final start of the season on Wednesday, in game three of the Mets series. Jim Breen of Bernie's Crew has a look at how opposing batters are handling the Brewers' ace, and says he needs to throw more strikes to force opposing batters to swing more often.

If you were at Friday's game, it's possible you witnessed a piece of history: Joe Inglett's eighth inning pinch hit triple was his fourth of the season. TheJay has been unable to find anyone who ever matched that feat.

Rickie Weeks picked up an award this weekend: Fans selected him as the Brewers' 2010 We Energies High Energy Player of the Year.

Another day, another post mortem: Baseball Reflections has a look at what happened to the 2010 Brewers.

While most of the Brewers will see their season end this weekend, Brian Anderson still has a few weeks left. Bob Brainerd of Fox Sports Wisconsin has a look at some of Anderson's national work this season (calling weekly games and postseason broadcasts for TBS), and how it's impacted his travel schedule.

As for Ken Macha, he's still not sure if this is the end. Doug Melvin told reporters he will wait until after the season to announce a decision on the Brewer manager.

In the minors:

  • Erik Komatsu of Brevard County and Jake Odorizzi of Wisconsin were named the Brewers' minor league player and pitcher of the year over the weekend. Komatsu hit .323/.414/.442 in a very difficult offensive environment in the Florida State League this season, while Odorizzi posted a 3.43 ERA and struck out 135 batters in 120.2 Midwest League innings.
  • John Sickels of Minor League Ball is answering all reader questions today, including one of mine regarding Cameron Garfield. Follow the link to submit yours.
  • Jim Callis of Baseball America answered a reader question this week about Brewer second basemen: He doesn't think Brett Lawrie will play second in the majors, but says Scooter Gennett might be the organization's second sacker of the future.
  • Dan Szymborski of Baseball Think Factory has completed work on his 2010 minor league park factors. According to his stats, Huntsville was a good place to hit home runs this season, Brevard County was not and Wisconsin and Nashville were both relatively neutral.
  • Ben Hill of MiLB.com listed Huntsville's "Car Survivor" stunt among baseball's best miscellaneous promotion ideas of 2010.

Also in the minors: Minor League Baseball Prospects has unveiled their lists of the top prospects in each league in 2010. Here are the Brewers listed:

Around baseball:

Red Sox: Signed infielder Felipe Lopez.

Memories of Kevin Malone is a Dodgers blog with a weekly feature called Memorabilia Monday. If you're into that sort of thing, this week's post has a Milwaukeeish feel to it as the items purchased include autographed photos of Warren Spahn and Gary Sheffield (in a Brewer jersey).

With the minor league season over, many Brewer farmhands are currently in Arizona taking part in instructional league. If you've ever wondered, Space Coast Baseball lists the differences between instructs and the Arizona Fall League. AFL play opens on October 12.

The AFL will fill some offseason time for a fair number of us, but if you're looking for something else to do Tangotiger could use your help selecting the best baseball movie of all time. I clicked through about 6-8 matchups and realized there's a lot of baseball movies I haven't seen.

With those two distractions, the offseason should go by faster than an Aroldis Chapman fastball. Chapman broke the major league record again when he was clocked at 105.1 mph Friday night.

Roughly a week from today the Brewers will likely be in the market for a replacement for Ken Macha, and one can only hope the search will not include Cubs broadcaster Bob Brenly. Brenly is reportedly interested in several openings, but has removed himself from consideration for the Cubs' job.

On this day in 1974, the Brewers and Orioles played 16 scoreless innings before Baltimore plated a run in the 17th to win 1-0.

Happy birthday over the weekend to:

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to do some circling.

Drink up.

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And now updated again, with the actual Mug.

Sorry for the delay, folks.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Sep 27, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Pioneer League list just came out too

Matt Miller (#9) and Jimmy Nelson (#14) made the list.

They say that Thornburg didn’t have have enough IP, or he would have made it. Interesting that Hawn was absent too, but can’t complain about props to 3 pitchers, especially when they are 3 of our 4 top picks from the 2010 draft.

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by GormanBraun28 on Sep 27, 2010 12:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Capuano

I don’t think its worth it for the Brewers to offer Chris Capuano a 2011 contract. The injury concerns will always be there, but with what he has done this year and especially this September, he has probably priced himself out of Milwaukee.

I personally wouldnt give him anything more than a one year, incentive laden deal that bumped up with innings and starts and then performance of course. But with his work this year, you might extrapolate out, that with a full season of work, he could be worth 1.5 WAR, which is over $6 million.

I would bet someone will give him a guarantee of around $2 million based on what hes done this year and maybe double or triple it with a good, solid, healthy season. The Brewers shouldnt be that team. At best, he would be their 2nd #4 starter behind Randy Wolf.

Id love to keep the guy around just to maintain the IQ level on the team, but he can probably get the money he can in a pitcher friendly park and a team that can afford to pay his worth.

by backtocali on Sep 27, 2010 12:23 PM CDT reply actions  

1 year with a team option

For $2MM/yr + incentives. That way if his arm explodes again we aren’t on the hook for an extra year, but if he turns out to be solid we can get some of our investment back.
/imo

by nullacct on Sep 27, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

And make sure one of these incentives doesnt boost the buyout where a manager, for the sake of letting the fans see you one more time, can cost the team a quarter of a million dollars.

by backtocali on Sep 27, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh please.

http://www.twitter.com/mykenk

by Mykenk on Sep 27, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Elaboration:

a) It’s silly to think that the team didn’t consider that particular incentive a sunk cost at the beginning of the year.

b) If you’re going to hold out mediocre players in order to prevent them from attaining some contract incentive, then you need to do the exact same thing with the good players, given that the games are meaningless

Should the Brewers have shut Randy Wolf down to avoid paying him .25M in contract incentives? What about Bush’s incentives? Counsell’s?

And the fact that he “did it for the fans” isn’t necessarily true either, though it was a nice touch. He’s been finishing non-save situation games for awhile now. No reason to suspect it wasn’t going to happen eventually.

http://www.twitter.com/mykenk

by Mykenk on Sep 27, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Furthermore, take a look at his game log, they were keeping him from getting more incentives

After getting #600 on Sept. 7th, he didn’t pitch again until the 24th. If he had been pitching regularly (he was pitching decent when he did pitch) he would have reached 40 GF, putting him at a $1MM buyout…

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by tcyoung on Sep 27, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cosmetic

First off, it was sarcastic. But it is a tad annoying if you pay for a ticket or a ten pack or whatever to see the team play, and they put a guy into a meaningless situation that costs $250,000. They could have easily not had him pitch for the rest of the season and it wouldnt have made a bit of difference.

And the difference between Hoffman and say Fielder or Braun or even Wolf, is that those players are essential to the everyday results of the team, win or lose, they need those guys’ best efforts, Hoffman’s, even the 600th save, are meaningless. They could have just as easily released him in July, or traded him, if it werent for his PR value, which again, as a paying customer is a bit annoying.

by backtocali on Sep 27, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm confused.

You’re upset because other paying customers wanted to see Hoffman in the game?

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Sep 27, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it would be funny as hell

If Mevlin had told Macha to sit Hoff because they got 600 out of him and didn’t want to pay out any more incentives, and Macha put him in anyway since he knows he’s a lame duck.

by nullacct on Sep 27, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not outside the realm of possibility

Those types of directives come from FO’s all the time. But for Macha to disobey it would be a bit more unbelievable.

Lots of crazy demands come to the manager from FO and ownership groups, that if the manager decides a player needs to be used to help the team, has no choice but to make the best decision for the team and their (manager’s) heart.

by backtocali on Sep 27, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bizarrely, that would increase my respect for the man.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Sep 27, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Villanueva was warming up

I truly believe the plan was for Hoffman to get two outs and then leave to an ovation. Then Uggla hit into the $250,000 DP.

by statsllc on Sep 27, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

But for $250,000 you can buy a heck of a lot more happiness than seeing a useless pitcher play in a meaningless game.

by backtocali on Sep 27, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just 'cause I feel compelled to mention this anytime someone suggests something that even remotely implies otherwise

You are aware that the price you pay for tickets is completely independent of any extra money they have to pay Hoffman, correct?

Brewers Baseball and other assorted nonsense (mostly the assorted nonsense) at my blog, What's a Tararrel?

by Lefti on Sep 27, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont doubt it, because I know you know your stuff

But how so?

ticket income is a revenue, player salaries are a liability, one goes up the other goes down, and what is left over goes into equity

by backtocali on Sep 27, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

you seem to be forgetting

that lefti “relocated” some US Treasury-grade printing presses to the basement of Miller Park.

by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 27, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

The supply of tickets is fixed

So the ticket price is dependent solely on the demand.

Think of it this way. Suppose they lowered ticket prices. What would happen? More people would buy tickets, but there would only be so many to go around, so the people who got there first would get all the tickets, and then would be able to turn around and scalp them for more.

The theory behind it is that clubs are going to price tickets at the point which maximizes their revenue, which, again, is based entirely on demand. Even if they lower expenses, why are they going to voluntarily lower revenue? You could argue that they should do it as a gift to the fans, but as I pointed out above, it’s really just a gift to the resale market. Now, I grant, that the theory doesn’t always play out perfectly in practice; I don’t know about Milwaukee games specifically, but I know for sure some of the games on the East Coast (mainly marquee ones) end up getting priced below market value, and you can make a profit reselling them on StubHub IF you’re lucky enough to buy one at face value. But this doesn’t change the fact that the pricing is disconnected from payroll.

Important to know is that the causality DOES go the other way; if people are willing to pay more, then obviously payroll can go up. But if the team wants to just increase payroll, they can’t just increase ticket prices; they’d get more per ticket, but drive away enough people to cancel it out. If they could increase revenue by increasing ticket prices, they’d have done so already.

Brewers Baseball and other assorted nonsense (mostly the assorted nonsense) at my blog, What's a Tararrel?

by Lefti on Sep 27, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

so you think the pirates get as much revenue from ticket sales as the brewers?

or the marlins or rays?

if BtC’s demand for tickets goes down via a personal boycott, Brewers lose money. They may set a new optimal price, but that’s one fewer consumer that they’ll have. Thereby demand will be lower

by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 27, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's technically illegal (or so I was told here one time)

to make roster decisions based on already-signed contracts and incentives thereof.

If he had been held out, he could have sued the Brewers for that 0.25M, and the Brewers would be out some attorney fees too.

by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 27, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really think we can afford to pay his worth.

Assuming Fielder is traded, there are about 25-30 million dollars to spend on 2 SP. We can take the risk on Capuano in the rotation because of guys like Rogers and Narvdog sitting in the pen/minors ready to take his place if he gets hurt. Even if you bring him in for $3-4 MM, that still leaves you with roughly $20-$25 MM to spend on 1 SP and a utility infielder..

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by tcyoung on Sep 27, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even if he did put up 1.5 to 2 WAR production

Why pay him even if you can afford it? If you give him $3-$4 mm with additional incentives (your numbers), why pay that kind of money to a guy who isnt going to put you in the playoffs?

I like the guy personally, but I would much rather them take lumps with Parra, Rogers and Narveson at $1.2mm and the league minimum, than pay for what Capuano brings to a .500 level team.

by backtocali on Sep 27, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Parra is done as a SP. Rogers should start at AAA.

I’ve got no problem if they resign Cappy provided he gets a small guaranteed deal.

No reason to hand out big bucks to a guy with his history/potential when you can easily raise his pay with incentives.

by klwillis45 on Sep 27, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Done with us, anyway

I think there’s probably a team or two out there who are willing to give Parra another shot as a starter, and if so he might be more valuable in a trade than in the bullpen.

by nullacct on Sep 27, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I understand the argument, but they do have *some* money

While it would be great to have the payroll flexibility offered by Rogers and Narveson, where would the Brewers spend the money they’d be saving? Even a small market team like the Brewers can make a profit with an $80 million payroll.

You’ve repeatedly advocated that the Brewers trade Fielder for a bevy of very young prospects. You also don’t think it’s worth spending big money on the bullpen. I’m not necessarily disagreeing with you on those and I think we’d all pretty much agree on the bullpen part.

If they trade Fielder and keep some cheap starting pitchers, they’ll have some money to throw around. Where do you suggest they spend it? Their holes would be at 1st base and “6th starter” for when starters go down with injury.

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by ecocd on Sep 27, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

If, going by your scenario

I wouldnt mind spending that $2 million on a bullpen arm/6th starter, but the way things areright now, there are a bevy of guys already in house who can fill that role cheaper in Loe, Villanueva, McClendon.

I am working off of the assumption that next years team, on paper, is only a playoff team with the addition of two all star arms and the retention of Fielder (not that I am advocating that), so I dont mind using cheaper alternatives to get servicable results as opposed to spending to get premium results.

As for first base, there are a few guys out there, who if you could get them for say 2 years might be worth a little less than $10 mil per, guys like Derrek Lee, Carlos Pena, Lance Berkman or even Lyle Overbay. You could go and get a guy like one of them if the money is burning a hole in your pocket, but Gamel and Hart are there in house as well.

by backtocali on Sep 27, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have no confidence

In Loe, Villanueva, or McClendon starting. Capuano just delivered 4 quality starts in a row – I would bet against those three being able to deliver one QS between them.

by nullacct on Sep 27, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

but the 6th starter

is mostly used for long relief, rarely makes a start, maybe 3 or 4 a year if needed.

And if an injury came along, there is someone, if you dont want to use Loe, Villy, or McLendon, to call up from AAA or AA, or buy a free agent who is avaiable very cheaply.

My main problem with offering Capuano a deal is that I feel he is worth $6 million probably, which has to come largely in incentives. But its still out there, even if he performs up to expectations. But $6 million is a lot for a #4 or #5 starter when you are already paying one $9 million, and you have two #5’s ready to go for league minimum, or at worst $1.2 million.

by backtocali on Sep 27, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I refuse to accept the title of 6th starter for any of the three you mentioned

You might as well be proposing Coffey or Braddock be stretched out to start.

by nullacct on Sep 27, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

The sixth starter.

He wouldn’t be pitched much, as long as no one gets hurt, traded or sucks. But odds are someone will miss a start at some point. Actually, odds are nearly everyone will.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Sep 27, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the 6th starter still starts

Take a look at the Crew this year. Leaving camp we had our rotation as YoGa, Wolf, Davis, Parra, and Bush. Our “6th starters” have ended up starting 39 games this year.

by nullacct on Sep 28, 2010 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is there really any point in the Red Sox signing Felipe Lopez?

They have seven games left in a lost season. Is this just to get an extra 10 days before everyone else to try and resign him in the offseason?

by Noah Jarosh on Sep 27, 2010 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

If they had won last night there may have been

Maybe it was “in progress” and once they started, couldnt turn back.

by backtocali on Sep 27, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

They do have the possibility of compensation picks

He’ll most likely be a Type B, if they offer him arb and he signs a major league deal with someone else, they pick up a sandwich pick. I did hear that if he signs a minor league deal, the Sox don’t get a pick, but the cost of picking him up is so low I suppose it’s worth it even if he doesn’t get them a pick.

Brewers Baseball and other assorted nonsense (mostly the assorted nonsense) at my blog, What's a Tararrel?

by Lefti on Sep 27, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm no expert on this stuff

But I don’t think there’s any such thing as being too highly placed to get compensation for a type B.

Brewers Baseball and other assorted nonsense (mostly the assorted nonsense) at my blog, What's a Tararrel?

by Lefti on Sep 27, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

i think i was thinking backwards. Teams are bad that sign a type A don’t give up any picks.

by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 27, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Prince prince prince

It would be disappointing if I had to leave but as of now I’m still a Brewer."

by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 27, 2010 12:46 PM CDT reply actions  

if not for trying to connect to FaceBook 7 times before allowing me to read great content

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Sep 27, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good for you, Bert.

Way to appropriately plea to the HOF that your career accomplishments should not be summarized by the inability of the teams you pitched for to win. Pitching nearly 5000 innings (450 more than Old Hoss!) with a career WHIP of 1.198 (better than many HOFers, including Nolan Ryan, Whitey Ford, and Tom Glavine) should guarantee you a spot in the Hall.

by nullacct on Sep 27, 2010 1:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm in favor of putting Bert in the Hall of Fame

just so we won’t be subjected to his annual bitching about not being in the Hall of Fame.

I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.

by Rubie Q on Sep 27, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bert Blyleven has always had the Happy Youngster's vote

Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.

by TheJay on Sep 27, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

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