Wednesday's Frosty Mug
Some things to read while playing with your LEGOs.
John Axford has been great this season, but ten multi-inning saves might have been a bit too much to ask for. Called upon to record the final four outs in a one run game, Axford allowed two runs on three hits in .2 innings, blowing his third save of the season and giving the Mets a walkoff victory, their first in 68 tries this season when trailing after 8 innings. Axford told Adam McCalvy he got beat by leaving fastballs up, but doesn't let his poor performances bother him. Hang With 'em Brewers! compared it to Mariah Carey falling down on stage in Singapore. I had no idea Carey was even still performing, much less on other continents.
Corey Hart went 1-for-4 last night with a solo home run, the first one all year by a righthanded batter against Mets pitcher Mike Pelfrey. Hart now has a hit in 12 straight games.
Other notes from the field:
- Ryan Braun missed last night's game with a stomach virus, according to Ken Macha. Wezen-ball is somewhat skeptical. Either way, Joe Inglett started in left, batted second and went 2-for-4 with a double and a run scored.
- Mets outfielder Carlos Beltran left the game with "right knee discomfort."
- Ruben Tejeda, Chris Carter and John Axford are leading FanGraphs' Star of the Game voting.
- Here are the MLB.com video highlights.
The Brewers and Mets continue the series with a doubleheader today (the Brewers' first of 2010), and both games will be televised on FS Wisconsin. Yovani Gallardo will match up with R.A. Dickey in game one, with Dave Bush taking on Jonathan Niese in the nightcap. Carson Cistulli of FanGraphs gives those matchups a six and five on his NERD scale, respectively.
Speaking of Dickey, Andy McCullough of the Newark Star Ledger has the best story you'll read today about the unpredictable professional career of a pitcher without a UCL in his elbow who later turned to the knuckleball.
Of course, Yovani Gallardo is pretty interesting in his own right. Jack Moore of Disciples of Uecker makes the case that Gallardo deserves consideration for a spot on your MVP ballot.
Mark Rogers is still expected to start against the Reds in the final series this weekend. Adam McCalvy reports that the pitch count for his second major league start will be "higher than 60," but that's all we know at this point.
Here's an interesting twist on the Brewer managerial situation: Craig Calcaterra notes that Buster Olney is reporting that Ken Macha will almost certainly not be retained for 2011, which isn't news. He also notes, though, that Willie Randolph is reportedly not interested in the job. Meanwhile, Randolph told reporters yesterday that he is still interested in managing again.
I have no idea what to make of that, but here are two possibilites:
- Olney and/or his sources are wrong and Randolph really is interested in the job. It's standard procedure for a candidate to deny or deflect questions about interest in a job while someone else is still holding it.
- Of course, it's also possible that Olney and his sources are right and Randolph does want to manage again, but doesn't want this job. That'd be a little weird.
In a related note, Miller Park Drunk started to make the case for retaining Macha for 2011, but then remembered that Macha started Corey Patterson in center field last season.
While the Brewers were getting ready for last night's game, Bob Uecker was in nearby Seacaucus, New Jersey taping an interview with Bob Costas to air this offseason.
Another day, another note on Prince Fielder: Today Seth McClung weighs in: He thinks Fielder will eventually get a five year deal worth $105-115 million, and lists eight possible candidates for his services.
In the minors: John Sickels of Minor League Ball answered three more Brewer questions as he finished off this week's All Questions Answered thread:
- He thinks Jeremy Jeffress has the stuff to be a closer but will have to prove his emotional maturity to the Brewers. He also thinks the Brewers will have an easier time keeping him out of trouble in the majors.
- He says Jake Odorizzi "has a little Greinke in him," but in the end compares him to Scott Baker of the Twins.
- He thinks Cameron Garfield should repeat Wisconsin to start 2011.
Speaking of Wisconsin, congratulations to the Timber Rattlers on raising $3376.90 for Children's Hospital of Wisconsin with their recent jersey auctions.
So it turns out we're pretty awesome. Yesterday Craig Calcaterra unveiled the "Stop Making Fun of Rays Fans" Index, and it shows that Brewer fans do a better job per capita of supporting their team than any other fan base in baseball.
On power rankings: SB Nation has the Brewers at 20, up three spots.
No transactions today.
If you're hoping the Brewers will make a splash in free agency this winter, take a look at MLB Trade Rumors' list of 21 potential Type A free agents. There's really not much out there, and signing any of the guys on that list could cost the Brewers a draft pick in 2011.
Congratulations to the Reds, who clinched the NL Central with a Jay Bruce walkoff home run against the Astros last night. In a related note, here's today's strangest story: Before last night's celebration, Brandon Phillips says he'd never tasted alcohol.
By now, you've probably seen the new Domino's Pizza ad campaign, where they acknowledge that their pizza has been consistently bad over time and pledge to improve if you'll give them another shot. I'll admit, it worked on me: After years of not trying a pizza from them, I gave one a shot. I ate it, decided it was better than it used to be but still an inferior option compared to my favorites, and haven't had it again since. Joe Posnanski wonders if a similar strategy could work for the Royals.
The Pirates could try it too: With the Mariners winning last night, they've clinched baseball's worst record.
Or, they could just try a clothing change: Braves reliever Takashi Saito is lightening the mood in his clubhouse by wearing traditional Japanese attire to the ballpark.
I didn't realize it until this morning, but I missed a piece of history yesterday: It was the tenth anniversary of the final home game at County Stadium. Elmer Dessens, who won last night's game for the Mets, also won that game for the Reds.
Happy birthday today to:
- Ken Macha, who turns 60.
- 1986-90 Brewer Rob Deer, who turns 50.
- Helena Brewer Tyler Thornburg, who turns 22.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm putting my earplugs back in.
Drink up.
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Useless trivia
If Gallardo wins today he will improve to 37-24 in his career, a winning percentage of .607. Pete Vuckovich is the current career leader among Brewers with 50 decisions at .606 (40-26).
Also, if Mark Rogers makes a start in Cincinnati, it will be the first year two pitchers (Tim Stauffer is the other) born in Maine started at least two games in the majors since Danny Coombs and Carl Willey each started three games in 1965.
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
Dominos
For me personally, the new dominos has vaulted to the top of the “crappy pizza you should only eat drunk” list. Though, I’ll admit, at some level, they’re all exactly the same. I do like the passive-aggressiveness of my local dominos driver much more than the flat out hatred of life exuded by the other drivers in the area. Maybe that’s where their points came from. Although, that begs the question, why doesn’t the dominos driver hate his life as much as the other drivers hate theirs? I think it’s probably because of the pizza. Prior to the rebranding, the dominos driver knew he was delivering discs of pure hatred to his customers, and probably enjoyed every second of it. Now that their pizza isn’t best utilized to reward idiot kids for selling the most magazines, i suspect that the hatred level I sense from the dominos guy will regress towards the hatred level of the other drivers.
I’ll continue to research this, and will follow up later.
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by Mykenk on Sep 29, 2010 10:08 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Chain pizza is still chain pizza.
Dominos is new & improved. They are the best of the big boys now.
But they are stil a chain and stuck in the middle between local & frozen.
Exactly.
Though some chain pizza doesn’t really count as chain pizza, imo.
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Not exactly sure what you mean.
Are you referring to small regional outfits and/or take-n-bake joints?
I don’t count those in that group either.
i always liked dominos more than pizza hut
papa john’s is kinda crappy if you’re not into the peppers and the dipping sauces.
Gumby’s was good up until 1998 or so, but thereafter went to crap. They’re not in every market though.
Little Caesar’s is pretty okayish. Cheap, tastes alright if you want single toppings, but you gotta pick it up yourself.
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Papa Murphey's...
I don’t like it that much. Sure, it’s cheaper, but sometimes their idea of specialty pizzas is a bit out there. Plus, they charge more per additional topping than most places (from what I recall).
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
were much better pre 1998 as well
but I personally prefer tomatoes and toppings to just garlic butter and a hint of cheese. I can definitely see the appeal though to the pokey.
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
yes
Pokey Sticks suck now. Just had them in State College a few weeks ago.
"I've been banging a lot of bratwurst lately".
Uecker during the 8th inning of his first game back
Cry
I had such good memories. Suppose I’ll keep them that way and abstain should I ever run across them again.
by thevaccinator27 on Sep 29, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
out at a football game against some third-tier school?
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
not unless
you call Alabama a third-tier school. It was my bachelor party and we didn’t want to wait in line at every bar like we would have had to during a home game.
"I've been banging a lot of bratwurst lately".
Uecker during the 8th inning of his first game back
ahh
okay…you came to state college for an away game.
weird, but not weird
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 30, 2010 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions
that's how I roll
"I've been banging a lot of bratwurst lately".
Uecker during the 8th inning of his first game back
don't believe I've ever had the pleasure actually
Edwardos though, yes.
greasy, but awesome.
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not a big fan of stuffed pizzas like Edwardo's or Uno.
Toppers is a fairly new chain (started in 1984). They have locations in MN, WI, IL, IN, OH and NC.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
It's always been that way.
There pizza has always been meh, even when they were just the 1 location in Whitewater. We’d order Za from Rosa’s and stix from Toppers.
Also,
their Pizza is too expensive. Their “house” pizza’s are pretty good, but not worth the cost.
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Considering you can get a large pizza from Pizza Hut and Papa Johns for $10...
I would agree, but looking at normal pricing for pizza, it doesn’t seem too high.
I think a large pizza at Dominoes is only about 50 cents cheaper for a comparable one at Toppers. ($16.49 vs. $16.99).
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Chain pizza
If I’m going to order a chain pizza, I’m still more likely to order Toppers or Papa Johns than Domino’s.
With that said, I prefer Stuc’s, Glass Nickel and Pizano’s to all three of them, so I think I’ve had roughly one pizza from each of the chains in the last year.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Sep 29, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
By the way
No matter what else is in the Mug, these topics are always guaranteed to generate conversation:
1) Manny Parra
2) Batting pitchers eighth
3) Pizza
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Sep 29, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
you forgot
pie
and dairy queen or mcdonalds shamrock shakes (or any blended treat place)
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Manny Parra is the Little Ceasers of pizza
It’s cheap, sometimes it’s really good, but other times the pieces aren’t even cut right
by drezdn on Sep 29, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I can't believe you didn't work in Parra batting 8th in that comment
To flag or not to flag, that is the question.
"Just one more turn." - The Civilization addict's motto
Glass nickel is awesome
loved their veggie pizza and a few of the other options. Hadn’t ever tried the others in my time in Wisconsin. Are those appleton-local?
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it's a Madison-based chain.
Recently opened in Appleton.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Sep 29, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I believe the had a "white pizza" or something like that
A pizza with potatoes and no sauce. I was never a big fan, but my friends in college (Madison) got one every weekend.
"Just one more turn." - The Civilization addict's motto
which place are you guys talking about?
I was curious where Stuc’s and Pizano’s were. I know Paizan’s (sp?) but I didn’t think it was spelled Pizano
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Stuc's and Pizano's are both in Appleton.
Stuc’s is on College, Pizano’s is up by North High School.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
in the Appleton area
give me Franks Pizza Palace or Cranky Pat’s in Neenah (also in GB, I think) anytime. They used to be one place owned by Frank and Pat (who would’ve guessed), so they have pretty similar pizza. Best around, imho.
I feel like I need to try Frank's again.
I’ve only been once, but the pizza was the textbook definition of “nothing special.”
Now that's great tasting chicken!
I've heard that
in Platteville the place to go is Steve’s
incidentally, in Davis, CA Steve’s (but a different logo and everything, so don’t think they have the same supply chain) is either #1 or #2 in my book also.
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I just had Glass Nickel for the first time last week
didn’t get pizza though, will have to try it.
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You guys are making me hungry
"A ringing single for David Eckstein who, in my view, is the perfect size for an American male." -Bob Costas
They are in the Milwaukee area too...
Brookfield to be exact. I ate their for lunch one day… not bad, but they are definitely more geared towards take-out/delivery than dine in.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
If you're in Minny or Eau Claire
my money’s on Green Mill. Awesome pizza for a chain.
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
I love Green Mill
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
by theBrouhaha on Sep 29, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty sure they freeze that, package it up, and sell it in grocery stores now.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
so does Uno's
that doesn’t turn out right ever. I suppose deep dish is different from other styles though.
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Dominos pizza better before they redid it.
I’ve always preferred Pizza Hut, though. Big time.
by Noah Jarosh on Sep 29, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
As long as the pizza is cooked well done...
Pizza Hut is actually pretty decent. The pan crust, when crispy, is absolutely delicious. It also reheats better than pretty much every other chain.
True
I actually will not eat Papa Murphy’s pizza the original time. It tastes better reheated.
"A ringing single for David Eckstein who, in my view, is the perfect size for an American male." -Bob Costas
then you should adjust your oven
because that’s all on you
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
you and I may not have the same tastes then
seeing as pizza hut often tasted like cheap crap. I haven’t tried any of their new specialties. Last one I tried was the stuffed crust (cheese only at the time) and I wasn’t impressed.
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Even if Dominos wasn't one of the best "pizzas to order when drunk"
I’d probably still order from there on account of how easy their website makes it to order pizza. Any easier and I’d be downloading food straight from my computer.
by MillerParkSouth on Sep 29, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Patterson
It was simply a joke that he got called up. Remember that Doug Melvin did indeed promise his agent that if he played well he’d get a call up. It makes me think that perhaps Doug also promised his agent that if we were out of it, he’d get playing time.
I wouldn’t say it’s out of the realm of possibilities that the order to give Patterson a few starts came from on high.
Hopefully.
I also think the order to continue to get Craig Counsell starts has to be coming from on high.
I’m still confused as to why Braun/Hart/Fielder/McGehee/Weeks are playing everyday. That just seems stupid to me.
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Not much up in the form of potential starters next year now that Gamel is out. Dickersons hurt, so he can’t take some starts from Hart/Braun. But I agree.. get a few more starts for some of the subs to get a head start on next years evaluation.
If we end up in 5th, who cares…
Ah
kinda forgot that Dickerson was hurt. Still, Gomez & Cain should be playing everyday, IMO.
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not inglett?
because he’s not really good in the outfield? or not going to be on the club next year? or what?
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Probably because he's never going to be more than a utility infielder/outfielder.
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
He is the best pinch hitter in the universe
Why waste him in an every-day spot when we can get quality hits out of the pitcher spot with him?
i think we should bat the 2009 version of chipper jones
off the bench, rather than make him play the field. Because that 1AB a game is so much more valuable than him batting 4×.
sarcastic point aside, I think Inglett’s BA disparity when pinch hitting vs playing every day this season is just a fluke. Both averages will probably regress toward each other soon enough.
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, right
I still don’t want him starting ahead of the other 6 OF’ers.
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The sad thing about the Patterson note
Patterson, pre-2010 career: .252/.290/.404
Patterson, 2010: .270/.318/.409
Brewers CF, 2010: .246/.297/.369
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
that's how much gomez sucks
dragging down cain’s stats in the average, right? or is patterson still better than cain?
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
he's not awesome
but he ain’t bad either. I want K-ameron back
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Right,
I was just saying his stats aren’t good enough (or large enough in sample size, come to think of it) to drag up the team CF stats
http://www.twitter.com/mykenk
Yeah, Gomez has as many PA as Cain & Edmonds combined
Then there are the garbage CF batting lines of Dickerson, Gerut, and Stern (link).
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
how are Jody and Doug Davis doing?
almost forgot about those two.
And Marco Estrada for that matter.
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Update
Gerut – Was released by the Brewers back in August, then signed with the Padres six days later and played 14 games in Triple-A.
Davis – He’s probably well enough to start pitching again, but it was reported by TH over a week ago that DM told him that he’d done for the year because he wanted to give the young guys a look. Needless to say, he’s probably not going to have his option picked up for next season.
I haven’t read anything on Estrada lately, but since Gerut was released, my guess is that he’s more or less done with the Brewers too.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I hear Marco Estrada is playing football in France
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
Actually, it's Chile...
and it’s known as “soccer” over here.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
in related news...
Brandon Phillips will probably not show up on time for spring training next year.
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 10:39 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I find it sobering
to realize that Ken Macha is only ten years older than Rob Deer.
Brandon Phillips understands.
sigh
is he really? teaching people how to swing hard and miss the ball most of the time?
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Those who can't do
teach?
(No offense, Pags. I know you teach.)
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
a fair assessment:P
doing would take away from mindless prattle online
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
It worked for Sabathia
Swing hard in case you hit it
by BrewCrewBrian on Sep 30, 2010 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions
I have gobs of respect for Rob Deer.
I am probably the only person to ever display a Rob Deer growth chart on a dorm room wall in Barnard Hall at UW-Madison for a whole academic year. He is among my heroes. Just not as a Hitting Coach Extraordinaire.
Brandon Phillips understands.
What's the over/under on Macha not returning to the Brewers?
How soon before we know his fate? And who’s even out there who can manage us?
"A ringing single for David Eckstein who, in my view, is the perfect size for an American male." -Bob Costas
The only thing we do know
is that at least 1/2 the BCB community won’t like the pick.
http://www.twitter.com/mykenk
by Mykenk on Sep 29, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We're getting mellow in our old age.
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
Speak for yourself
I’m already committed to holding the minority viewpoint, whatever it is.
http://www.twitter.com/mykenk
Eh.
You’ve been tamer this year. Your “Looper is far worse than Suppan” rants last year were epic.
Hell, you even jumped on the “down with Manny” bandwagon this year.
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
You might be right.
Probably need to work hard this offseason. Maybe see a specialist, bulk up.
http://www.twitter.com/mykenk
Take a look at the film.
Get that cleaned up.
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
Spend some time in Hattiesburg?
"A ringing single for David Eckstein who, in my view, is the perfect size for an American male." -Bob Costas
How did I not realize how pathetic
Lucroy’s offensive season was/is until now.. Huh.
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Because his OPS is still higher than the Brewers starting catcher last year?
by Noah Jarosh on Sep 29, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
I didn’t say it wasn’t better, I said it was pathetic. It’s still not acceptable.
Oh wait, is pathetic acceptable finally? Because if so, I’m going out tonight for sure.
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by Mykenk on Sep 29, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just wanted to continue the run of ending comments with a question mark?
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
Yours?
Or mine?
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
Are we back on track now?
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
Clive Anderson must be away from the buzzer
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
by TheJay on Sep 29, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I WANT 1500 POINTS.
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
Ah
I knew it wasn’t good, but I didn’t know he was about equal to Gomez…
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About the same as Ted Simmons' first season
Lucroy, 278 PA, .257/.302/.337/.639
Simmons, 324 PA, .243/.333/.317/.650
Most rookies suck
Unless you’re an overachieving freak, you play half the time, strike out a lot, and make a bunch of stupid errors.
plus Lucroy is still developing.
He was supposed to split this season between Huntsville and Nashville.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
Speaking of which...
2010 stats for the two players we’re talking about:
.257/.302/.337
.256/.318/.297
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I'm starting to think that the only way we can get something of serious worth for Fielder is to eat some of his 2011 salary.
Thoughts?
http://www.mlbsoup.com
FWIW, when I say, "something of serious worth" I'm talking about young pitching
http://www.mlbsoup.com
I don't think that works.
If you’re eating some of his salary, then you’re likely trading him to a team that can’t afford him and has no hope of resigning him.
So it’s a matter of what’s worth more:
A) One season of Fielder (minus some salary), +100% chance of getting Type A compensation for him, or
B) One season of Fielder, 20% chance (or more) of re-signing him and 80% chance of Type A compensation.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
100%
assuming he doesn’t blow out a knee near the end of next season and goes unsigned in free agency.
by PagsBrewCrew on Sep 29, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm trying to figure out how this would work, logistically.
Would we offer him Arby’s, sign him, then trade him and pick up a portion of the salary … or trade him, have the other team offer him Arby’s, and offer to cover a certain percentage?
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
Offering a percentage, probably not.
But they could still offer a fixed amount and be reasonably close.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
Probably could say it was Fielder & PTBNL (or cash) for prospects
Maybe he should play first base instead. That is, he should lie out there and we can step on him when we get a hit.
I know the guy is considered fat
but a roast beef sandwich or two isn’t going to make him sign with any big league team.
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