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Cardinals 12, Brewers 3: Ron Roenicke's Postgame Comments

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Did he consider starting Marcum in Game 4 instead?

Well, the only way to do that is flip flopping Wolf with him. So you need to decide who pitches better where, whoever pitches the second game is probably going to get two games in, so that's the decision: Whether to flip flop our rotation, because this keeps us on line if we stay with what we've been doing, and if you flip flop it then you're taking guys out of the rotation and you're giving Wolf two games and Marcum one.

Would he consider using Chris Narveson in place of Marcum?

We'll see how it goes. Marcum, when you look at what happened today, he left the ball up to Pujols in the first inning, tried to come in on him, beside that he really wasn't hit that hard. We could've made a couple of plays for him, things would've changed in that ball game a lot. So we go to the bullpen, and the bullpen didn't do so well either. So we didn't pitch well today.

More on Marcum:

Right. In most cases he was down in the zone. That one that Albert hit, he was trying to come up and in I'm sure, but left it on the plate and Albert doesn't miss too many pitches on the plate. But other than that, balls really weren't hit that hard. It's the same thing. You know, they hit a lot of hard balls today and they hit a lot of other balls that went right through us, in between us, blooping in, but they did a good job of really squaring up the mistakes that we made. 

On Albert Pujols:

Well, we saw...the last time we saw them at their place he was swinging the bat just like this. He had four or five hits in a row off of us, you can't make mistakes to him. You have to hit spots, you have to keep it down in the zone. He doesn't miss too many mistakes. 

Is there a question whether Marcum will pitch again?

No, as far as I'm concerned right now he's pitching again.

On changing the approach to Pujols with men on base:

Well, the approach can't really change. If they have guys on base ahead of him you pitch to him. The problem is if you pitch around him, the next two guys are not easy. The next two guys are two of the top guys in the league, so they've got three guys in a row that are as good as anybody in the league. So to pitch around Albert, that's fine, when it makes sense. But you've gotta get through the other two guys. Then after that Freese has hurt us, Molina has hurt us, so it's not just those guys. You're putting extra guys on base and with their lineup that's not a good thing to do.

How did Rickie Weeks' double play impact the game?

Big part in the game. Whether he's safe or out, you guys saw the replay, that's a big play. If he's safe we've got a run in, we have the at bat coming up with Hairston. Big play in the game.

How do you feel heading to St. Louis?

I feel fine. It's nice to get everything out of the way today. We didn't play well today. We didn't play well defensively, we didn't pitch well. I thought we swung the bats ok. But going into St. Louis we're going to have to keep swinging the bats well. I like the two games offensively, and we need to pitch better. It's nice we have Yo going, we feel real confident with that, and we'll see what happens.

How do you avoid losing on road?

Well, it's game-to-game. I don't want to say it's the same thing that happened in the first series where we win at home and then go on the road and we don't play well. It's a different series, different ballpark, different team. Our rotation is different, we've got Yo going in two days, we didn't have Yo going on the road in the first series, so everything's different.

Did he see a replay of Weeks' double play?

I didn't see the replay. It was big. It was a big play.

Does it feel like series will be decided by star players?

That's usually what it comes down to when you have these type series. Their offense is pretty deep all through their lineup. There's still the three big boys, but they're pretty deep. Our guys, it doesn't get any better than our 3-4 hitter. They've got to keep them off base, we need to get our two guys in front of them on base. If we get our two guys in front of them on base we're going to score a lot of runs with our number 3 and 4 hitters.

Is the season series to this point indicative of the relative abilities of these teams?

Well, I don't want to say they're dead even with us. They're a really good team. We're a really good team. I don't know if we're dead even or not but whoever executes...we didn't execute today in two big areas of the game, defensively and pitching. We didn't execute. We're not going to beat them if we don't execute in those two areas.

Is there a difference between Pujols now and normal?

No, I've seen Albert like this before, I've seen him in years past like this. He's a great offensive player. He's a heads-up defensive player, he's a heads-up baserunner. This is a great baseball player.

Concerned with starting pitching?

Well, I'm concerned that against a good offense, I know we need to pitch well. I still have a lot of confidence in all of our starters in the four guys that are going, because I've seen so many games where they've been on. But I know we need to be on when we pitch to these guys. So it's always a concern when you're facing a good offense that you need your guys to be on. I thought Shaun's game could have turned around, and he could've gone on a roll and had some nice innings. But when they don't pitch well you're always concerned about them.

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Can someone hook Roenicke up with Marcum's stats the last 6 games?

I like the guy too, but dude is DONE. And so are the Brewers if they start him again (provided they even get the chance).

by bluejazz04 on Oct 10, 2011 11:39 PM CDT reply actions  

I think they'll change their tune between now and Game 6.

I’d bet Roenicke hasn’t had a chance to talk to Marcum yet, and didn’t want him hearing he’s done secondhand.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 10, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Agreed

Plus, they need to worry more about winning one of the next three games if there is even going to be a Game 6.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Oct 10, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's the other thing no one's talking about

If this series goes to Game 6, Gallardo could be available on three days’ rest.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 11, 2011 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was thinking about that, too

I think if the Brewers are down 3-2 going into Game 6, they throw Gallardo out there and then try to scramble something together for Game 7. But if they’re up 3-2, I think they put Marcum or Narveson out there and save Gallardo for regular rest.

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 11, 2011 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Narveson has been lights out against the Cardinals this year

He’d be the Game 6 starter and Gallardo would be able to go on normal rest on a deciding Game 7 if necessary. Heck, it could be Narveson with a quick hook and Gallardo ready to take over Game 6 (or vice versa, I suppose).

If the Brewers are up 3-2 going into Game 6 is it Gallardo or Narveson?
If the Brewers are down 2-3 going into Game 6 is it Gallardo or Narveson?

I think there’s a good argument to be made for either pitcher.

by ecocd on Oct 11, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

My thoughts

If they are up 3-2 then Narv-dog.
If they are down 3-2 then Yo. – You can’t leave any bullets in the gun.

I hate Yuni.

by BrewCrewBrian on Oct 11, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's Narv then Yo either way.

If you’re down 3-2, you need to win both games so might as well have Yo pitch on regular rest.

by placidity on Oct 11, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

You have to get to game 7 to even have a chance down 3-2 though

Give yourself the best chance to get to Game 7, which means pitching Yo. Then you make it a one game series where anything can happen.

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by GoGregGo on Oct 11, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

He doesn't seem to have a lot of good options right now

Postseason Greinke, Marcum, Wolf, and Narveson:

23 IP, 33 ER, 41 H, 11 W, 12.91 ERA, 2.26 WHIP

And frighteningly, I think Yo’s lifetime numbers against St. Louis are pretty un-Yo like.

by TSmith34 on Oct 11, 2011 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Technically, he's right

Marcum’s game COULD have turned around, just like Marcum could pitch a perfect game next time out.

by keephopealive on Oct 11, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

That pitch to Pujols was just insane.

If you’ve got Axford’s stuff, sure, try to come up and in on him. If you’re Marcum…. yeah, no. Down and on the corners. That’s the only place he should EVER be trying to pitch a guy like Pujols.

I have no concept.

by menchkins on Oct 11, 2011 1:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Marcum was brutal, but the defense didn't help at all.

Hart missed Albert’s foul pop-up and Nyjer missed the double. Both tough plays, but both are plays that should be made if you’re a championship team. One of the unheralded strengths of this team is its outfield defense. We saw last night how, when bad, it can really make a competitive game out of reach.

The good news is, one road win means they regain homefield advantage and this team won in St. Louis four times this year.

by Bertwerst on Oct 11, 2011 8:27 AM CDT reply actions  

UZR/150 2011 / career

Nyjer in Center – 13.4 / 16.0
Braun in Left – (4.7) / (6.0)
Hart in Right – 0.7 / (3.5)

Average outfielder without Gomez – 3.1 / 2.2

Nyjer and Gomez are both good enough in center to make our outfield defense above average.

by placidity on Oct 11, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are right it is (very slightly) above average.

But when the team average is 0.02 and the standard deviation is 29.88, I am not willing to say that it is above average.

I should have said that it is above average only when Gomez is there.

I hate Yuni.

by BrewCrewBrian on Oct 11, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

My reference

was using B-Ref’s defensive stats:
In 35 fewer innings than the average team, the Brewers had 25 more chances, 33 more putouts, 3 fewer assists, 5 fewer errors and saved 22 more runs. In the Rtot category, which is fielding runs above average, the Crew was behind only Houston and the Cubs in the NL. In runs saved, the Brewers had 16, which was behind only WSH, SD & ATL.

by Bertwerst on Oct 11, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Add in the misplayed bunt on the 2nd batter of the game

Marcum had plenty of time to make the play, which would have kept a runner off base in front Pujols.

by TSmith34 on Oct 11, 2011 8:28 AM CDT reply actions  

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