Brewers Can't Quite Overcome Mistakes, Lose 4-3 To Cardinals To Fall Behind 2-1 In NLCS
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 12, 2011 10:18 PM CDT
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W: Chris Carpenter (2-0)
L: Yovani Gallardo (1-1)
S: Jason Motte (3)
HR: Mark Kotsay (1)
MVP: Mark Kotsay (+.144)
LVP: Prince Fielder (-.196)
Win Expectancy Graph and Star of the Game Voting
Many of us spent several hours before tonight's game decrying the decision to start Mark Kotsay in center field tonight. He only took one inning to do everything we were worried about.
His night got off to a good start, as he walked in the first. Then he was picked off second when he wandered too far off second base on a fly ball. And in the bottom half of the inning he demonstrated that he's not a major league center fielder: Two balls that Carlos Gomez or Nyjer Morgan would likely catch fell in as the Cardinals plated four runs.
The Brewers scored two in the top of the second and another in the third (on Kotsay's home run) to make it close, but neither team scored again after that. Milwaukee chased Chris Carpenter from the game after five innings, but the Cardinal bullpen retired twelve Brewers in a row to end the game.
Yovani Gallardo was in big trouble after the first, but recovered to give the Brewers five innings. He allowed the four runs on eight hits and four walks, striking out just two.
Chris Narveson pitched the eighth inning tonight, meaning he's unlikely at best to make the start if the Brewers force a Game 6.
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I wish someone would tell him
Excuses are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink.
SABR'd
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Or faceplanting with arms to the side while trying to get back to second base because your stupid ass was too far off on a line drive that you definitely should have been closer to the bag on.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Insult meet my friend injury
Brewers:
2011 NL Central Champs!
National League #2 Seed
Franchise record for wins
by molitorfan on Oct 12, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh, you two dated in college?
i hope this isn’t awkward.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
hilarious that kotsay is mvp
"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."
Except
Not really. Losing this game was a matter of not getting on base. Kotsay did just fine in that department.
by Tiny Felder's Flip Shades on Oct 12, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
kind of like what keebz just said
we won this game, except kotsay happened
"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."
by trippingandy on Oct 12, 2011 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Its OK, I think TFFS sort of trolls
I don’t know if I can back that up, and I’m somewhat drunk, but that’s what I seem to remember for some reason.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
his post count supports that.
I don’t care enough to go back and read what he’s said though.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
We'll be sharper tomorrow.
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 12, 2011 10:21 PM CDT reply actions
i sure as hell hope they can't get any duller.
this offense needs a shot in the ass.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
the offense is the only thing i feel has a chance of real improvement.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Not the starting rotation that was incredible throughout the season, but has been struggling in the postseason?
No room for improvement, there?
this team has had a few funk days for the starters, but they've gotten right back on the rails.
it feels like there’s something more to this, for the starters to have done as poorly as they have.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
The pitching has been pathetic. Enough of the pansy ass nibbling at the corners. Throw up and in on these guys. They can’t hit it. If they want to swing, great, pop-ups or broken wrists. If La Russa takes offense, great, that drunk asshole AND his pitcher can watch from the locker room.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
by Tepo6688 on Oct 12, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Please see, as Exhibit A:
Holliday, Matt.
You can ask my wife, she was irritated with me, but the whole time Yo was pitching to Holliday and Smoltz was saying “I keep spiking it in the dirt here” I kept saying “throw a fastball up out of the zone and in, he’ll strike out”.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sorry, but I'm not going to rip Yo for staying low or in the dirt after the defensive play he got in the outfield in the 1st inning.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 12, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not ripping him
he got the strikeout on a pitch up and out of the zone and in.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
What about the fact that he couldn't locate anything low in the zone?
If you can’t throw there accurately, why fucking bother?
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
He made it through 4 more innings without giving up a run.
He didn’t have a good night, but he was good enough to give ’em a chance to win.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 12, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Same with Pujols
he has a hole in his zone; Up & in. He CANNOT make meaningful contact with that. I don’t give a fuck if that roid monkey or his far-from-anonymous alcoholic manager don’t like it., Go to the batting cage and fix it. Don’t try to bully the rest of the league into dealing with it.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
Marcum doesn't nibble.
And this lineup shouldn’t be putting up 4 scoreless innings against their pen.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 12, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
This.
Can’t believe they didn’t score when they had ample opportunities to do so.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Marcum?
he’s the definition of nibble
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh no no
i couldn’t POSSIBLY eat the whole thing.
well, maybe a bite.
homerun
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
As of late,
he’s the definition of “oh shit, I left that one over the plate.”
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, he lives on the corners because he throws 87
He’s admitted that he HAS to command and locate to be effective. Which means he has to hit his spots. Which are on the corners. And he hasn’t been even remotely capable of that lately.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep.
And he needs to throw his change much more than he is doing now.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Not lately.
Though I’ll admit he’s getting more of the plate than he intends.
Really, the Marcum comment was supposed to be a joke, since he tries to stay on the edges but suddenly can’t do so.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 12, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I think everyone is out of batteries at this point.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
I don't think Yo's out of batteries.
He just had a bad night against a team that sees his stuff well for some reason.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 12, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Not him
our Sacasmometers.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
Please put a title on the pic next time.
So we can minimize it.
Contributor on Brew Crew Ball, Commissioner of Prognostikeggers, Owner of a broken sarcasm detector
You know...
…you’d think the boards would be set up to not allow posting a picture link in the subject of a comment…
by Zack Greinke's Paxil on Oct 12, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
He had a horrible inning that ended up costing this team a game in the playoffs.
The rest of the game doesn’t matter, that’s still a bad night. He’s not the only one that sucked, but there’s no getting around the fact that without starting off down by 4 runs, this is a different game.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
It wasn't his fault
that he had to get six outs because Roenicke put a corpse in CF and Hart can’t track a routine fly ball in right.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
by Rubie Q on Oct 12, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Exactly
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
No, really.
You burn Kotsay up and down even though he provided the offense, and give Yo a free pass even though he pitched like crap and was lucky not to give p 7-8 runs. 13 runners in 5 innings on 95 pitches??? That’s a crappy start.
by nullacct on Oct 12, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
The walks worried me with Yo.
I don’t agree with Kotsay’s play in the field, but he was the only one that had professional at-bats.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you miss the defensive play by your boy Kotsay?
and by Hart? You know, the plays that led to runs scoring, but weren’t scored as “errors” in the non-enlightened box score?
Its not tough. I’m sure you watched the game. How do you ignore that?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Outfield didn't do him any favors
But the infield did, with three double plays. All in all, Yo was lucky it wasn’t a disaster start. Meanwhile, the obsession is with Kotsay not being as good a fielder as Gomez, which means RR needs to be fired. Tired of this crap, sell it someplace else.
by nullacct on Oct 12, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, really?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
lolwut
13 baserunners in 5 innings. Two more and he loads the bases every inning.
HOW THE F*** IS THAT KOTSAY’S FAULT
Because those baserunners don't automatically become runs!
Unless of course you can play defense for shit.
by zsxander567 on Oct 12, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you watch the game?
I’m asking seriously.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
by Rubie Q on Oct 12, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
At this point, who cares?
Yeah, it sucks Kotsay was in CF. It was still a winnable game for us.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Its a matter of principle that's been building all year
This game sort of is the microcosm for Rubie’s (and my) disapproval of RRR. And yet he has people defending him.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
By your logic the no-hitter that Edwin Jackson threw a couple of years ago wasn't a good game because he walked 8 guys.
The result was a no-hitter which equals a good game.
I have no concept.
He also wlaked the bases loaded
and put the defense in a position to let him down that badly.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
He had to nibble
because he was terrified at the thought of what might happen if one of the slapnuts behind him had to try to field a ball.
Yo’s a bulldog. This loss has very little to do with him.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
by Rubie Q on Oct 12, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
He wasn't even nibbling.
My favorite was the pitch that bounced 5 feet before home plate and almost went over the screen.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
by Tepo6688 on Oct 12, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really, the defense failed him, man.
I mean, we both watched the same game. Its hard to believe you saw something completely different than I did. Yo wasn’t sharp, but the defense let in the runs that would eventually lose it.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
EVERYBODY sucked, including him.
The defense failed him, but he set them up to.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
I'm not saying he would have had a no hitter without the defense
I’m saying he wasn’t sharp, and on those days, the defense ESPECIALLY needs to be sharp. It was far from that.
And that, in large part, is due to the manager’s decision to start one Kotsay, Mark in center field.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
You will never see me defending that start
but my point is that there is plenty of blame to go around for tonight’s result, and Yo is by no means excluded from it.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
by Tepo6688 on Oct 12, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I see what you're saying
but also, even though he didn’t bring his best stuff, had Kotsay not started, things would have turned differently.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
thank you. :)
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
This is the true
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Did we watch the same game?
I got goons.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 12, 2011 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I was working tonight for most of the game
but I saw the inning that mattered.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
See I'm too emotional to see the sarcasm
sorry :/
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
No worries.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 12, 2011 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
You mean roids?
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
Who are we?
Pujols?
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
I know everyone hates it that I don't let shit go
but THIS is why I do not approve of RRR.
Although I do approve of the two IBBs to Pujols. That doesn’t absolve the pitching of Narveson and the starting of Kotsay.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:21 PM CDT reply actions
Narveson had a good inning.
What’s your problem with him?
Contributor on Brew Crew Ball, Commissioner of Prognostikeggers, Owner of a broken sarcasm detector
He can't start now?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Also covered above in Kyle's recap
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, from that angle, I understand it.
Contributor on Brew Crew Ball, Commissioner of Prognostikeggers, Owner of a broken sarcasm detector
yeah, that's why i said we had been RRR'd.
if you’re going to talk about starting kotsay because of his numbers against a pitcher, NOT starting a pitcher IN SPITE OF their good numbers against a club is just head-spinning.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Francona in '12
Fire Ron Roenicke
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
by Rubie Q on Oct 12, 2011 10:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Not going to that extreme
However, I am ready to start a Fire Rick Kranitz campaign. He needs to figure out what is wrong with these starters NOW. They can’t go from that good to that bad so quickly.
Contributor on Brew Crew Ball, Commissioner of Prognostikeggers, Owner of a broken sarcasm detector
What has Rick Kranitz ever done
in his prior brewer history would make anyone think that could happen. #missingmikemaddox
Yes please
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Oct 12, 2011 10:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Took me all year Rubie...
… but I’m there now.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 12, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sitting a seat over from Rubie
and both the one between he and I, and the one to my left are empty. I don’t know why, though…
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't that what men do at the movies?
Don’t want to, you know, graze your arm against his at the wrong moment.
by Zack Greinke's Paxil on Oct 12, 2011 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Only men not snug in their sexuality
so I’ve never done it.
Its more that no one wants to sit by me, even if they all agree with me, for fear of being pariahs by association.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been in and out all season.
Is my coffee mug still there? I forgot it there somewhere when Roenicke started JHJ over McGehee.
by ecocd on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You can sit by me
but RAGE might get mad
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Our starting pitching is pathetic.
Our bats have to overcome a multiple run deficit every day from the first AB on.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
Anyone else feel like we gave this one away?
Couldn’t get a run when we needed one
can we just get out of a 1st inning without giving up runs?
lately, we are always working from behind. just once, i would kill to not let them score in the first
"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."
And that's the key
RunS, not a run. One run isn’t a backbreaker. Multiple runs makes us change our entire approach at the plate before we even have a chance to settle in.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
Well, have a good night everybody.
It was worth it, still, to watch this one until the conclusion. Hopefully there won’t be so many broken bats tomorrow.
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 12, 2011 10:23 PM CDT reply actions
Randy Wolf's ERA at Busch Stadium this year
Drum, roll please: 3.43. Hey, his 21.00 postseason ERA is atrocious, but the Brewers aren’t out of this yet!
Well tomorrow the season is on the line
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Oct 12, 2011 10:25 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
You really do have to ask
If the entire BCB community correctly predict well before game time that the choice to start Kotsay is going to be an awful decision and that ends up being a huge reason for the loss, how does RRR not get it? I understand they aren’t checking the blogs, but everyone here knew it was trouble.
by kotsaythebuzzkill on Oct 12, 2011 10:27 PM CDT reply actions
Questions I'd like to see someone ask Roenicke:
So, you really think Mark Kotsay is a major league center fielder?
Really?
And you really think Casey McGehee gave you a better chance to tie the game than Jonathan Lucroy?
Really?
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 12, 2011 10:27 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Would have liked to see Kottaras instead of Lucroy.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
really?
i mean, really?
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I would take facing a lefty after Motte seemed to be jacked up and actually throwing strikes.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
they wouldn't take Motte out for lefty after retiring 3 straight guys
if they did, then you go to McGehee.
Will you miss Milwaukee?
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
by Rubie Q on Oct 12, 2011 10:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 13 recs
haha
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
you planted a rec tree
i’m just here to watch it grow.
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by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
When
is the open house? Does your place come furnished?
Brewers:
2011 NL Central Champs!
National League #2 Seed
Franchise record for wins
Sending McGehee with the game on the line
Makes me want to take a sledge hammer to inanimate objects
I know Kotsay f***ed it up in the beginning but
Still plenty of chances throughout the game and the Brewers hitters made the STL bullpen look way better than they actually are.
Grillax people
After catching up on the game threads, I'm kind of glad I missed this one
I didn’t think the Brewers would win this game even before RRR decided to manage the worst game of his young career, so I’m not particularly worried by this loss.
I think tomorrow’s pitching matchup favors the Brewers much more than today’s did, and if they win that one, they’ve got a best-of-three series with home-field advantage.
Get ‘em tomorrow, guys. You’ve backed yourselves into a corner, but you’re good enough to get out of it.
You're more optimistic than I am
I mean that as a compliment.
Today was the game to win.
I really don't think Narveson is no longer an option for game 6. He pitched just 1 inning.
3 days rest after 1 inning isn’t enough?
Most SP do a side session a day or two before the next start
So I agree with you here, no reason at all that Narveson cant start even game 5 if needed.
The huge concern is probably that no matter how much longer the series goes, none of the Starting pitchers have looked sharp at all.
Exactly
My 1st thought when Narvy came in was “side session to get sharp”
/Seriously. Not a single drop of sarcasm
// I’m not kidding
I got goons.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 12, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I can see that
And I hope its the case.
I, however, don’t think Narveson will be starting in place of Marcum. I hope I am wrong. But I take RRR pitching Narveson as a sign that he will not skip Marcum. Why? Because Narveson went in in the bottom of the 8th inning. I believe the rationale was that if the Brewers tied up the game in the top of the 9th, that Narveson would pitch extended innings.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I feel like he gave himself a ready-made excuse
he doesn’t have to defend starting Marcum or deal with people second-guessing him if he can say that there were no other options
by Nicole Haase on Oct 12, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, I should clarify.
I don’t think Narveson’s pitching Game 6. I’m just saying that he could if he wanted.
Oh ok
You’re right, I should have clarified statements I made with regard to that:
I disagree with RRR’s decision to pitch Narveson because he was intending to use him for multiple innings and NOT start him in place of Marcum.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
He said Gomez was the best defensive CF in the majors
WHEN EVERY PLAY MATTERS, THAT IS THE GUY YOU FUCKING PLAY. NOT KOTSAY. NOT MORGAN. THE GUY WHO CATCHES FUCKING EVERYTHING.
For crying out loud.
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by Tepo6688 on Oct 12, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
WHY WHY WHY WHY
Good LORD
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Brutal managing
First, let me say that I am one of those that believes that unlike football and basketball, coaches don’t have a whole lot to do with winning. The game is a pretty simple game and there strategy is such that any good tabletop baseball player has a pretty good handle on how to manage things.
Tonight though, I think Roenicke did as much to give away a game as I have seen.
First off, for a guy that has shown an insane level of loyalty to a bad player like Yuni Betancourt, how can you start another awful player like Kotsay despite offering virtually nothing as a player. If you want to go with Gomez for defense, fine. But why start the guy who is bad offensively AND defensively.
Getting picked off second cost Weeks (a guy that tags Carpenter) an AB with RISP while Carpenter was struggling.
His terrible range in CF cost them a couple runs defensively.
Then, while it went ok, why Narveson in the 8th? That is still high leverage…why not K-Rod? Can you really afford another run?
In the 9th, we have Motte, a guy who kills righties to the tune of a .430 OPS. And yet, we have 3 straight righties in the 9th. When he finally pinch hits, his two lefties sit, one of which who actually has legit power (Kottaras). Casey McGehee??? Really?
Just brutal and yes, I am pissed.
-2 runs in the field
+1 run from the box.
i’m sorry sir, your credit card seems to be declined.
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by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Him in the field has nothing to do with his offense. Or his baserunning. Those were both god awful.
1 for 2 with 2 BB’s isn’t bad in front of Braun. Better than Morgan
Grillax people
Sounds like a DH candidate.
NO MORE FIELD FOR KOTSAY!
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
So what?
he still COST the team runs. Its not like the game stops when they switch and the stats are wiped out, to be added to a different game’s stats.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
When did I ever say it was a good move? I just said his offense wasn't bad as the OP said
Grillax people
i think this is the definition of
defending an indefensible position.
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by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
yep
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't freaking agree with Kotsay playing dude
I know you guys are on edge about it but can you not read anymore?
Grillax people
i can read (i think. typing is still hit and miss).
but “kotsay did pretty well offensively” tacitly accepts his being in the game in the first place.
you’re right, two BB and a HR isn’t bad on paper, but it might not have been necessary with what else he brought to the table.
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by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
But he has a point
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Eh, it does
tac·it [tas-it] Show IPA
adjective
1.
understood without being openly expressed; implied: tacit approval.
It was implied. And then you clarified. And its fine now.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
we're all cool, dudes
let’s eat tacos.
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by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I'm fine
but I just get irritated when people back water to try and cover asses when its pretty obvious. The fact that its obvious should make me stop posting. But the fact that I’ve imbibed some Knob Creek is making that inhibition go away.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Irony is your mother
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 13, 2011 2:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Ironic how? I've been firm to my point and civil.
You’ve been name calling for a while now.
Grillax people
Enough, both of you.
For the love of baseball, can’t a guy get some sleep around here without having to get up to break up a fight?
Now that's great tasting chicken!
Wait, where did I call you names?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 13, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I said stop.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 13, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
You got it, I was just honestly curious where that came up.
Emotions were high last night, but I wasn’t calling people names.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 13, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Like I said, so what?
He shouldn’t have been playing.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, ok, ease up
everyone is on edge man. It looks like you’re defending the decision when you’re pointing out how good Kotsay was. Especially when you say that he’s better than what Morgan could have done. Which, in my opinion, is not defensible, either.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
He was likely a wash with Morgan.
Both struggle defensively. I don’t care if Morgan can cover a large area, he takes shittacular routes to balls. None of them are hitting right now, aside from flukes, so why not play the best CF in the entirety of Major League Baseball? He can cover the entire outfield by himself. There is no excuse for anyone but Gomez to be starting in center.
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Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
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Yeah
I think my thing is, I’d have been OK with ANYONE starting in CF except for Kotsay.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
None of them are hitting
that should make it all too clear that there is NO other option. Attanasio needs to sit him down in private and lay into Roenicke for wasting all of his money.
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Packers? Already got it done.
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Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
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His offense wasn't awful.
His defense and baserunning were simply inexcusable for a game of this magnitude. It doesn’t make up for it.
Not enough to make up for other events
Credit him with a run for his HR. He cost them 2+ with his baserunning and fielding.
Even if Kotsay hits 5 HR, it was an atrocious move that reeked of panic and was indefensible on paper.
Do we really want a manager playing low percentage hunches in the playoffs?
by badgermaniac on Oct 12, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
roll for THAC0
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by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Well that and
No hits in the last 5 innings. But to your credit, Roenicke did not get a hit tonight.
by Tiny Felder's Flip Shades on Oct 12, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty sure they wouldn't need them without Kostay's blunder.
But then we’re moving into the What If discussion so I’m done.
by zsxander567 on Oct 12, 2011 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
i think his best play was when he left the batters box the last time.
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by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Hart's, Weeks', Luc's
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
glad you agree on Luc
convo above that Luc was best hitting option and I just don’t think I agree. He’s looked lost at the plate, IMO
by Nicole Haase on Oct 12, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
He hasn't had a good month at all.
I think this offense is entirely different if we don’t have to worry about Rickie, Hart, and Luc struggling. Sucks we gave up 4 runs, but they cleaned it up and put 3 on the board. Should have been more than that though.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
He is streaky...
..so not surprising. He is one of those guys you just have to keep trotting out there and hope he finds one of those hot streaks he is known for.
by badgermaniac on Oct 12, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
He's sick.
In the pre-game they said a bug was going around the Brewers clubhouse and Corey has been sick for the last few days but feeling better. Which make me wonder why RRR didn’t put Kotsay in right if he wanted to play him so badly.
by Zorakathura on Oct 12, 2011 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I could have went with this.
Go Nyjer in CF, Kotsay in RF. IF and only IF he was deadset on playing Kotsay for some reason. Kotsay should have not been playing in CF.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
Would have made more sense to play Kotsay in right and Gomez in center.
by BrewCrewWS09 on Oct 12, 2011 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
sick shouldn't justify
what looked like jogging to that ball he missed. He was not running full out and then didn’t end up getting there in time.
by Nicole Haase on Oct 12, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
You know when you think too hard about something and then get yourself really angry?
This is me when I think about the decision to start Kotsay. I just can’t get over how idiotic of an idea that is.
I want to see a leader among the players come out now and challenge these guys.
Time for a players only closed door meeting.
Also, I can’t tell you how much it pissed me off to see Fielder smiling and laughing during that last inning. I know I can’t expect them to take everything so seriously, but I’d like to see some more professionalism here.
Contributor on Brew Crew Ball, Commissioner of Prognostikeggers, Owner of a broken sarcasm detector
He doesn't have to give a shit.
He’s leaving to play for a team that get’s to this point every year.
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Packers? Already got it done.
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Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
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gets, not get's
I’ve imbibed much Jameson, quickly.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
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Still makes sense
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I know
I’m a grammar freak, so when I mess up, it eats at me.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
Grammar freak?
Thats’ an, interesting thing to.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
mama said every time someone misuses an apostrophe
an educator cries
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by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
So funny
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
You son of bitch...
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
You have NO IDEA how hard it was for me to type that post.
No idea.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm a guy who refuses to write a rough draft when I have a paper.
I honestly have to fake a shitty copy of something when a rough draft is required. THAT is the version that’s hard for me to write.
I get where you’re coming from.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
Oh me too.
I do my best work under extreme pressure. I mean, give me three 10 page papers due on the same day, I’ll start all of them 5pm the night before and get an ‘A’ on every one.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh man,
I have 2 weeks to write a 3-page politically-themed movie review for Black Hawk Down. How in the hell do they justify charging me to take this class?
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Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
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Haha so awesome
I loved classes that I’d get a syllabus and it would say:
“Your grade will be based on four blue-book mid-terms, and two 15 page essays.”
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I have one teacher who refuses to assign the required paper
because he thinks it’s so pathetic it would actually be a waste of his students time to write it.
Badgers? Getting it done.
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Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
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My GPA in classes that had blue book exams, or essays as the only grading criteria?
4.0
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I have one black mark on mine
I had a writing class that wasn’t listed as Women’s Studies, but ended up being that. I tried to stick it out, but it turned out that it was taught by He-Woman Manhater. Not a single male student passed that class.
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Wow
I’d have complained to the dean.
Although the one time I did that, it was a philosophy/ethics class. Never complain about a philosophy professor. They will send you 4 pages of logic arguments as to why you would never have gotten an A.
Asshole.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I tried to
and wasn’t taken seriously. The teacher argued, for different people, a combination of suspected plagiarism and failing to meet the assignment requirements.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
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Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
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You should have offered to complete a different final project or something
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Eh, that came off sounding conceited
sorry. I would have asked to do a different project or something, and have the head of the department grade it, if possible.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I took a different version of the course and replaced the grade with an A the next semester.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
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Ah nice
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
rec'd
I never, ever wrote a rough draft or used an outline.
Try spending time as a copy editor. It’s like a damn illness. I’m incapable or reading things without correcting them.
by Nicole Haase on Oct 12, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, don't even get me started on outlines.
Maybe if I’m writing a novel, that’s necessary, but not for 8-10 page essay.
Badgers? Getting it done.
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Fuck an outline
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a journalism degree
I thrive on deadlines. I’ll write that paper at the last minute whether I start it the day its assigned or a few hours before its due. Without that end point pushing on me, I’ve got nothing.
Lucking Journo profs dont require outlines and rough drafts.
by Nicole Haase on Oct 12, 2011 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm transferring to a real school next semester and starting to work solely on sports broadcasting.
The Dream is to one day have my own sports radio talk show.
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DOn't forget me when you fulfill that dream
hopefully by that time, I won’t have to worry about money too much, and I can assist in any way possible. I don’t have a journalism degree, but I’m controversial. That counts in radio, right?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Colin Cowherd and Skip Bayless have jobs...
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Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
Not a ringing endorsement, but I'll take it
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Just get a law degree and go into medical supplies operations...
Or be like my friend’s dad and get a chemistry/biology degree and run an auditing firm.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
What the hell was Prince Fielder laughing about in the dugout when the Crew were one out away from the loss?
Seriously? You hit into two double plays, and that was during the innings in which they were actually getting runners on. I hate to get down on the big man, but these playoffs mean everything to me. How is Fielder not down on himself just a little?
See my post above.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
Because the team is just so goddam loose!
Even though they were all pressing at the plate after the fourth inning.
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Oct 12, 2011 10:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
honestly, this doesn't bother me.
i’d rather see blasé than see a gatorade cooler zambrono’d.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I agree with this.
It’s probably better for Fielder to take today in stride than be demoralized going forward in this series.
Fighter of the Nightman. Champion of the sun. Master of karate & friendship for everyone.
by The Dayman on Oct 12, 2011 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It wasn't my favorite
but it didn’t make my blood boil or anything. I mean, his spot in the order wasn’t coming up any time soon. What was he going to do from the dugout? And its possible watching Casey bat would have made him as mad as it did the rest of us, which would have done no good.
by Nicole Haase on Oct 12, 2011 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed.
I remember reading a quote from him somewhere where he said that every game they lost in the 08 Playoffs felt like the end of the season. Glad that he’s able to be a little loose, because we still have a chance to win the series. Gotta get Game 4, though.
by Vee Sanford's Next-door Neighbor on Oct 12, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
'Night all.
I’m not in the right place for this place right about now.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 12, 2011 10:41 PM CDT reply actions
Okay I know we're all mad at him but
All these fire Ron comments are ridiculous. He’s led the 2nd best team (so far) in brewer history to the CS and he goes down 2-1 because he started a sucky, sucky, sucking suck-face in CF who if it was anyone else I still think we lose, cause no one was catching that Pujols double, and Gomez was fully capable of making that baserunning mistake.
I’m glad Ron is here for a couple more years because he seems like the type that can get more outta less, and when prince leaves that’s what I want.
You may now dismiss me as an insane kotsay loving scar upon the earth and call me crazy because maybe I am, but I thought I’d throw my emotions and thoughts into one post before I prepare my rituals for tomorrow’s 6-1 Brewer win.
CUCK THE FARDINALS and goodnight to all
(Verb) you cardinals.
by Taterwithbacon on Oct 12, 2011 10:43 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
They've gotten there in spite of him, not because of him.
Doug Melvin gave him the pieces, he’s been ramming square pegs into round holes all year.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
by Tepo6688 on Oct 12, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
I love you all.
Preach the word.
An idiot-proof pitching staff does not a great manager make.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Yes.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
"i swear these fit in here earlier."
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Stop letting him hang out with La Russa.
His tolerance level is nowhere near the same.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
TWSS
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
No, that's correct.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
by Rubie Q on Oct 12, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Agreed
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Is there anything that will make you decry a RRR decision?
I mean anything at all?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Plus, I know we've been through this before
Rubie notes the losses attributed to RRR. I’ll certainly agree with tagging him with this one. But for some reason, you pin that on me. Why is that?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Heh, not surprised at that response
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
An actual stupid move
And I call him on it when it happens. While we’re at it – game #170 and counting with Yuni at SS.
by nullacct on Oct 12, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Unfortunately
the guy who was going to be replacing Yuni has had to fill in for people who have been even worse.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
Yep
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah that one's on Melvin
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
He only hits against us
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
I'm glad we agree there
You should agree that starting Kotsay cost the game.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't help, but there were other chances to win this game.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Kotsay cost 1 run on the base paths and 2 runs in the field
the final score was 4-3.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
And yet we still could have won.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
You can always win theoretically. but today's game was today's game. Kotsay lost it.
I have no concept.
They played soft.
Rickie is struggling, Hart is struggling, Luc is struggling. This is a team game. Players need to pick each other up.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess I just don't value managerial decisions as important as players.
Players have more impact than do managers.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
You're right
Players like Kotsay.
by zsxander567 on Oct 12, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Brilliant.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
by Rubie Q on Oct 12, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, he did have an impact.
But other players did as well. Many failed in big situations as well.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree there
But I think because of the timing of the mistake Kotsay definitely bears a lot of the weight for this one. The other players don’t have to make up for his screw up if he’s not there.
by zsxander567 on Oct 12, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Let me say it again.
It’s not Kotsay’s fault that he’s not as good a defender as he once was.
It’s Roenicke’s fault for setting him up to fail.
by tcyoung on Oct 12, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Cool
We WOULD have won, had he not been in the field.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
We would have won if people would not be struggling against a bad bullpen or a wheeling Carpenter.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
OK, you win
The team would have lose even if Gomez or Morgan was playing Center.
Sorry, I give up. People are willfully disregarding the obvious. And I’m tired of being the vanguard here. If someone else wants to try to make them see the light, by all means.
Just know, Bush League All Star, that its you and…I think one other person who are arguing that Kotsay and RRR’s decision to start him are NOT the reason the team lost.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
have lost
god damn you Knob Creek
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been trying. It appears to be a complete waste of time.
apparently the answer is they should have just “score more runs”
Because, you know, you can just do that whenever you want.
I have no concept.
by menchkins on Oct 12, 2011 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So they didn't score.
That means those players failed as well? Thanks.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Or we could overcome that?
You know, we had chances to…
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Why are we making the task more difficult?
We’re playing a really good baseball team that hates us and is managed by a sociopath who feeds on joy and happiness.
Why tie one hand behind our back to fight ’em?
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Still a winnable game...
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Or lost because people didn't play well.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Both.
Let’s end this.
Somebody will tell a joke tomorrow morning, we’ll all feel better, and then Wolf will kick some Lohse ass.
exactly.
FFS, this is the stupidest argument I’ve ever been involved with.
KOTSAY LOST THIS GAME BECAUSE RR STARTED HIM IN CF. Period.
I have no concept.
by menchkins on Oct 12, 2011 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cool Story...
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah about that...
I could have went with this.
Go Nyjer in CF, Kotsay in RF. IF and only IF he was deadset on playing Kotsay for some reason. Kotsay should have not been playing in CF.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
What's this proving?
Sorry. I missed it.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Typical.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't like Kotsay in CF.
But it was still a winnable game. Other players had the chances to win.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree but there are ALWAYS chances to win a baseball game. That doesn't change the fact that the decision to start Kotsay in CF is what lost this game.
I have no concept.
Let me help you out there
That doesn’t change the fact that the decision to start Kotsay in CF is what one of the things that lost this game.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
Yeah, I can't argue that.
There’s plenty of blame to pass, but RRR has to take the largest portion.
by tcyoung on Oct 12, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Understandable.
But I don’t see much criticism for Prince who didn’t play well, Rickie who came up not big in big situations, and Lucroy who has been playing pretty poorly lately.
I understand it sucks to go down 4-0 off the bat, but there is more than just Blame RRR and Blame Kotsay to go around.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Because
when you’re batting (against what has lately been a solid bullpen) you can’t just get base hits on command. Prince and Rickie didn’t play well, but they got beat by a pitcher. On the other hand, Kotsay got his ass handed to him by old age and gravity. Getting a clutch hit is never automatic. At least one of those plays in center would have been automatic for pretty much any other CF.
by Keebz on Oct 12, 2011 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not even saying good clutch hits...
They just need have quality at-bats. Work some counts, get on anyway possible. I did not see any of those happen outside of a few PAs.
No one seemed to play well enough to set themselves up for success in a PA. A lot of their approaches were just horrendous.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
The point is still the same
Even if they had quality at-bats they wouldn’t be guaranteed to get hits, let alone runs. We’re still talking about a possibility of extra runs vs. actual runs coughed up.
Carpenter had nearly 90 pitches after 5 innings
who’s not working the count?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I wasn't too impressed with any Fielder at-bat tonight.
Weeks as well. Braun had a pretty bad at-bat in the fifth after Carp walked Kotsay on four straight pitches.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
So they should just always have good at bats and just always get hits and score runs. I'm on board with that. That would make it quite a bit easier to win.
I have no concept.
They should have better at-bats yes.
Would increase their chances to perform better and help make up for mistakes other players make.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Right. And they can just do that whenever they want. It doesn't matter what the opposing pitcher is doing.
I have no concept.
Apparently that is what St. Louis did to us tonight.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 13, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
They should just do that every game. That way they can go 162-0 in the regular season then just sweep every year through the World Series.
I have no concept.
Well they didn't chase anything.
Yo gives up the single, Kotsay flops on the “double” by Jay. Albert doubles to left center. Next two guys take walks, not chasing pitches. Yo gets a ground ball double play, yet yields a run. Hart probably gets the Freese ball, but each of those at-bats prior probably helped build and compound the mistakes made.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 13, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Enough, both of you.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 13, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions
No qualms. Night Kyle. :)
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 13, 2011 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions
my argument
would be that those are incidentals – those sorts of things happen in every game and you could make arguments like those for every game. “If Rickie had hit that ball” or “If Prince had hit a HR”
The Kotsay decision directly impacted the outcome of the game. It isn’t a hypothetical. It’s concrete evidence that directly led to the score of the game.
Yes, the argument can be made that other things could have changed the outcome, but they shouldn’t have had to. Without Kotsay in the game, the score is different and the Brewers win.
by Nicole Haase on Oct 12, 2011 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I love you, Nicole
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Kotsay got on base though
yeah, he fucked up the baserunning bad, but slumping Morgan or no-bat-vs-righties Gomez wouldn’t have been on said base.
Kotsay sucks, the decision was dumb, Gomez should’ve pinch-run for him after his 2nd walk, etc. etc. – but yeah. If we want offense and not defense (apparently RRR did) – Kotsay delivered both.
by Archibaldcrane on Oct 13, 2011 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, there were but there are always other chances to score more runs. The way that THIS game played out, we lost because of the decision to start Kotsay.
I have no concept.
by menchkins on Oct 12, 2011 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Then score more runs?
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
right because you can just "score runs" at will.
What you can do is use your best players at their best positions and make the defensive plays you should make.
I have no concept.
by menchkins on Oct 12, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
They should be able to score more runs, yes.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, but the Cards bullpen has been really good lately. Sometimes you're just not going to score a lot of runs.
That’s why defense is an important part of the game.
I have no concept.
They're right though.
RRR knows that Kotsay is a liability in the outfield, yet he played him in the toughest position in a spacious ballpark. It’s not Kotsay’s fault that he’s slowed down with age; it’s Roenicke’s fault for putting him in a position to fail.
by tcyoung on Oct 12, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Bist du plotzlich Deutscher?
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
Absolutely RR's loss.
Should the offense have been better? yes, but they wouldn’t have needed to be if RR hadn’t started Kotsay.
I have no concept.
Had many opportunities.
Second inning should have netted us a few more runs. Prince hit into a double play in the 3rd after the Kotsay HR, which could have been a nice inning.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
And to get shut down by that bullpen...
not a great night ;/
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 12, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree to a certain extent, but
when the alleged defense gives up two runs and then makes a bonehead basepath move, it’s ain’t just the lack of offense……it’s bad, very bad decisions by the guy in charge
"I LOVE YUNI- He's going to help us win the series!" The voice of a desperate Brew Crew Fan- ME!
by PlusorMinusThree on Oct 12, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's it
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Disagree
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you just trolling now?
The Cardinals scored precisely 4 runs this game and won.
by ecocd on Oct 12, 2011 11:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Tomorrow is another day
and the Brewers have another chance to wipe the field with the Cardinals instead of the balls they hit
"I LOVE YUNI- He's going to help us win the series!" The voice of a desperate Brew Crew Fan- ME!
by PlusorMinusThree on Oct 12, 2011 10:56 PM CDT reply actions
i don't know how, but i feel like this gif illustrates today's game.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 11:07 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
is this the point of the night where i'm allowed to post corgi gifs?
because i’ll do it, god damnit.
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Oct 12, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LET LOOSE THE DOGS OF WAR
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
that's a rec, that's a rec
EVERYONE GETS A REC!
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Rec for chick in bikini
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
oh man i need more mescaline and this on a big screen
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 12, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
OOOH! CORGI GIF TIME! Can I join?
This warms my cold black mass where my heart should be.
by Some Guy Named Gabbo on Oct 13, 2011 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha so good
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 12, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Ive used 4 half days for my vacation so far.
All 4 of those days we lost… we are 4-0 on normal work or off days… I work tomorrow.
Streak Breakers.com
by Flanyboy on Oct 12, 2011 11:31 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I think we should all lay off the personal attacks,
Take a step back from the ledge, and think about this. We lost tonight. We probably should have won. That sucks, but we have two more games in St. Louis and if we split those we regain home field advantage and we’re right where we were before the series started.
Plus we’re in the fucking NLCS!!!!!!!!
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
by mnbrewer on Oct 12, 2011 11:40 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Setting up just the way that I had predicted
win 1, lose 2, win 3. That way they get to win it in Mke and I don’t have to work.
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
Just got back from the game
There was a pleasant drizzle throughout, but it really let up toward the end of the game. For some reason, things seemed to be going better when it was raining. I got into the stadium just as the Brewers turned the double play on the Cardinals in the first, so we outscored them 3-1 as far as I’m concerned. Also, I forgot my rally towel, so any rallies tonight were doomed from the start. That’s a mistake I won’t let happen again.
You did this.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
Wait, which part did it?
Not making it there for the start I guess? Or the rally towel? Oh well, at least in my world Kotsay had an outstanding game. I’m far more upset with the bandwagon Cardinal fans from Texas that sat behind me and screamed nonstop the whole game than I am with any player or managerial decisions.
Surely the illustrious Cardinals don't have bandwagon fans.
They only have diehards! And billions of ’em!
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
RR and Mark Kotsay probably bought that guy his tickets.
Bastards.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 13, 2011 7:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope Ron hears the BeeGees first thing in the morning, and starts to think about his decisions.
I started a joke, which started the whole world crying,
but I didn’t see that the joke was on me, oh no.
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
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| W | L | PCT | GB | STRK | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Cincinnati
|
25 | 20 | .555 | 0 | Lost 1 |
|
St. Louis
|
25 | 21 | .543 | 0.5 | Lost 2 |
|
Houston
|
22 | 23 | .488 | 3 | Won 4 |
|
Pittsburgh
|
21 | 24 | .466 | 4 | Won 1 |
|
Milwaukee
|
19 | 26 | .422 | 6 | Won 2 |
|
Chicago
|
15 | 30 | .333 | 10 | Lost 10 |
(updated 5.26.2012 at 6:00 PM CDT)
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