Cardinals 4, Brewers 3: Ron Roenicke's Postgame Comments
As seen on FS Wisconsin:
Do you think Yovani Gallardo got rattled in the first?
Yeah, I think he lost his command there, I don't know what the reason was. First batter he left the curveball up to Furcal to give up the base hit, and Jay's ball that fell in was a decent pitch fastball in. Pujols hit a great pitch: Nice curveball, down in the zone, and he drives it to left center. Then after that I thought Yo lost his command. Maybe it was because he was throwing some pretty good pitches and they were hitting them? I don't know. May have started to try to paint too much, but his command did get off there.
What was your view of the ball Jon Jay hit that Mark Kotsay couldn't catch?
Well, we're playing him slightly to pull and he hits it perfect...he didn't hit it that well, he just hits it perfect between the two guys and we couldn't run it down.
Is that a ball Gomez catches?
Well, Gomez is gonna catch it. Gomez catches everything that's out there: He's a great defensive center fielder.
Did he feel they played a good game after the first inning?
Yeah, I thought, obviously concerned after the first inning, not knowing what we were going to do offensively but we bounced back nice in the second and third inning, I thought we had real good at bats off Carpenter. And I felt real good. When we got 4-3 I felt good, I thought we were going to score some more runs, Yo got a little better, still had to battle through his innings but I thought he got better, and our bullpen came in and did a nice job but their bullpen did a great job too.
Does he expect anything to change now that the Cardinals have momentum in the series?
No, whether they're down 2-1 I still feel good with our club. This is a good club we're playing. And when you make mistakes like we did in the first inning, they're gonna get their hits, they're gonna score some runs. I expected offensively that we were going to be able to come back, and we weren't able to do it.
On the Cardinal bullpen:
When you see 96-99 (mph), coming out of there with real nice sliders, I think it's real good.
Is Albert Pujols the exception to his rule against intentional walks?
I think so. I think when it really makes sense we'll do it. I don't want to put him on just to put him on, but you saw we put him on with a guy on third base, next thing you know it's second and third instead of first and third and they get a base hit there and they're scoring two runs instead of just one. So we're gonna pick our spots where we think we need to do it. If it comes up where it makes sense then we're gonna put him on but he's scary when he's hitting everything. When you're making good pitches and he's hitting them...he's done a lot of damage against us.
Is the Cardinal bullpen better than he expected?
Well, we knew their bullpen was good. Early in the season I know they gave up some runs there but like I said, when you have guys coming out and throwing that hard, they don't walk people, they've got good sliders...their arms are exactly how we thought they were. They've got tremendous arms, they're throwing the ball well, they're hitting spots. They've done a great job for quite a while. We got to them a couple of games a month ago, but they've got good arms.
Will the decision to start Mark Kotsay keep him up tonight?
Not at all. No, it was going to be either Nyjer Morgan or Kotsay out there. Gomez is a fabulous center fielder but you also have to look at trying to score runs and trying to figure out your offense and where you slot guys. Not so much that one guy is better than the other but how does he fit into the lineup? When we take Nyjer out of there sometimes it's hard to slot a guy in the second spot. So there are questions it's easy to look at afterwards and say 'Gomez would have caught it' but I didn't think Gomez was an option for today's game. I like him out there anytime I can get him out there but I didn't think he was a good choice today.
Was the line drive where he was doubled off a tough read for Kotsay?
Yeah, it's a tough read. He got off probably a little farther than he probably wanted to. It's also...when you're playing every day, your instincts are sharper than when you don't play everyday. And Kots, we hadn't started him in a while, and I don't think your instincts are always as good and he maybe got off a little farther than he wanted to. But it's a tough read and he wants to score if the ball drops, Jay made a nice play on it and it's a tough one to get doubled up on.
Did Hart have a chance to catch the David Freese double in the first?
I didn't see how he broke. When it was hit I thought he had a good chance to catch it. I didn't see what kind of jump he got on it. By the time the ball's hit and you look out at an outfielder it's hard to tell whether a guy gets a good jump or not. I know it was hit well, I know when Corey gets a good jump he's got some pretty good range out there. I don't even know: Did it go off his glove or did he just miss it? It went off his glove? Like I said, I didn't see the jump, I just thought it was going to be caught when it left the bat. But he hit it good.
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Excellent idea
Let’s start guys whose instincts arent sharp
by Officer Jim Lahey on Oct 12, 2011 11:44 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Ron...
You’re an idiot.
Go ahead, make my day.
by ilikeburritos on Oct 13, 2011 6:10 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 8 recs
I agree, but Motte didnt pitch the last four innings either.
They still should have been able to at least get a hit somewhere in that timeframe.
"People ask me what I do in the winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."- Rogers Hornsby
My Master Plan - Start KRod tonight
Wolf has been poor in early innings all year and he’s been terrible as of late. I say start KRod. He makes things interesting, but I think he’s less likely to start the Brewers hitters in a 0-4 or 1-4 hole than Wolf is. Let Wolf start his night facing the 5-7 or 6-8 hitters. Ease him into the lineup. Give him a chance to come into a game that’s already in progress. Heck, if you’re hitting well, you could even get Green or McGehee an AB in the pitcher’s spot in the order in the 2nd inning.
When the offense is struggling you “shake things up” by changing the order or swapping in a player. The starting rotation is struggling now and you’re “trying to win every game.” Shake things up, Ron, and give your hitters a game in which they aren’t staring at a 3-run deficit 30 minutes into the night.
I don't know if I can stomach another game of Ron trying to shake things up.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Start Wilson in LF
I’ve got a good feeling about it.
/RRR’d
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
2-time BCB Fantasy Baseball Champion
Yesterday it was RRR's gut.
Maybe today we can consult the Great Gazoo on who should start in CF.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
I think I figured out Ron's thought process last night
RR: “I’m thinking about starting Kotsay in center tonight, whaddaya think?”
RR: “Excellent, CF goes in the two-hole, right?”

RR: “Alright, and what should I do with our loyal Brewer fans?”
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
2-time BCB Fantasy Baseball Champion
by GoGregGo on Oct 13, 2011 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
To be fair to Roenicke
Kotsay did exactly what he expected him to. Kotsay got on base against Carpenter. Roenicke just has a complete and total blind spot when it comes to defense. He didn’t properly value the play at the plate vs. the play in the field.
Would it be fair to say Roenicke is a manager from the 80s and 90s? He’s not a bad manager, per se, he’s just Jack McKeon.
Fine.
But what about the thought of starting a reliever in the 1st inning? I think the idea has merit. Wolf seems to settle down as the game goes on so why not give him a soft start by avoiding Pujols until his second inning on the mound?
Also
I don’t really care how far off of second Kotsay was, he had NO chance of scoring if that ball drops. Ron clearly has no idea what Kotsay’s current skill set is.
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
2-time BCB Fantasy Baseball Champion
also
if he can’t tell whether he should go, shouldn’t he be looking at the third base coach who has a different angle and his job is to tell him to go or not?
by Capt Science on Oct 13, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
For the record
Gomez has a career .632 OPS vs. RHP.
The Brewers are 29-28 when Gomez has at least 3 PA in a game. Where he bats in the order:
2nd 19-18
7th 0-3
8th 10-7
Kotsay has a career .753 OPS vs. RHP (.713 OPS since 2010).
The Brewers are 32-18 when Kotsay has at least 3 PA in a game. Where he bats in the order:
2nd 8-6
5th 8-1
6th 13-9
7th 3-2
Gomez reached base safely 67 times this season. He was picked off 4 times.
Kotsay reached base safely 84 times this season. He was not picked off.
Gomez gets to more 73% more balls in the outfield than Kotsay. Neither Kotsay nor Gomez committed an error in CF this season.
It really is pretty close on offense
Gomez faced slightly stiffer competition in his starts (48% win pct vs 47% win pct), but that’s only 1 win difference over the course of the those games (make it 30-27 with Gomez apples-to-apples)
As far as their individual comparisons in those games, it pretty much evens up.
If we only look at those games in which they received 3 PA in a game, Kotsay had 3 SB and 0 CS, while Gomez had 11 SB and 1 CS. If we factor those into SLG (-1 base for CS, +1 base for SB), then those numbers work out to Kotsay with a .715 OPS and Gomez with a .702 OPS.
On defense, over the course of the year, regardless of OF position, Kotsay was worth -4.2 runs in 412 Innings (UZR/150 = -14.1) while Gomez was worth +12 runs in 569 innings (UZR/150 = 27.5).
You’re right that on offense, they’re dead even. On defense it’s not even remotely close. By your logic, the Brewers went on a crazy run sooner after Weeks went out. Weeks is clearly a drag on this team and should be traded for peanuts, because he’s not a winner.
Kotsay isn’t the right choice overall, but in Roenicke’s criteria that he wanted people to get on base, he was correct. It was a good decision based on Roenicke’s logic. Roenicke’s logic was flawed and it cost them a few runs and Gallardo a full IP.
No problem
If I had to choose between Gomez and Kotsay I would choose Gomez, based on his defense. The difference between him and Kotsay is basically one hit a game. Turning a 10-for-37 performance by the other team into a 9-for-36 by starting Gomez over Kotsay is 20 points of batting average. And even if the difference between the two of them offensively is 20 pts., I would still pick Gomez because defense never takes a day off or has an unfavorable matchup.
Morgan catches is too.
Morgan also would have caught that ball. It’s not just Gomez v. Kotsay. And Morgan is also generally better offensively
All this brouhaha over what cap Dawson might wear is silly. Big question: How will he get in? He's not going to walk.
Morgan makes the foolish catch
Go makes the catch that resulted in a GRD. If Kotsay is with in 10 feet, you know Gos there.







































