And Suddenly, It Was Over: Brewers Lose 12-6 To Cardinals, Eliminated From NLCS
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 16, 2011 10:49 PM CDT
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PrintW: Mark Rzepczynski (1-0)
L: Shaun Marcum (0-3)
HR: Corey Hart (1), Rickie Weeks (2), Jonathan Lucroy (1), David Freese (3), Rafael Furcal (1), Albert Pujols (2)
MVP: Jonathan Lucroy (+.135)
LVP: Shaun Marcum (-.315)
Win Expectancy Graph and Star of the Game Voting
About a week ago, a friend posted this on Facebook:
Spotted a big purple van cruising around West Des Moines, colorfully decorated clearly in homage to Scooby Doo and the Gang's Mystery Machine. While I applaud the time and effort put forth to painstakingly recreate such an iconic vehicle from classic television, my eye wandered to the side of the van, where in big, bold black paint print, it said, "Mistry Machine" That's right. MISTRY.
Tonight, I feel like that's a fair analogy for the 2011 Brewers. After spending months constructing a record-breaking, at times awe-inspiring thrill ride, the Brewers were given an opportunity this week to put on the finishing touches and misspelled their own name instead. It's hard to treat the 2011 season as anything but a massive success, but that doesn't make its sudden and underwhelming conclusion any less disappointing.
If you had told me the Brewer offense would score six runs tonight, I would've told you I thought they had a pretty good chance at winning. But if you had told me that Shaun Marcum would allow four runs in the first and Chris Narveson would surrender five more in the second and third, then I probably would have predicted an outcome like this.
The Brewers hit three home runs in the game, but also allowed three. Jerry Hairston Jr. was the only Brewer with multiple hits in the game, going 2-for-3 with a double. Ryan Braun went 0-for-4, so he'll finish the postseason tied for the Brewer single season record with 22 hits.
There's a strong chance that we saw several final Brewer moments tonight:
- Prince Fielder went 0-for-4 with three groundouts and a fly out in what will almost certainly be his final game before becoming a free agent.
- LaTroy Hawkins, who will be a free agent this winter, recorded the final out in the third inning and pitched the fourth, allowing one hit and nothing else.
- Takashi Saito, also on track to become a free agent if he doesn't retire, pitched two scoreless innings in relief. It was his longest outing since August of 2009.
- Craig Counsell grounded out in a pinch hit appearance in the bottom of the seventh.
- Francisco Rodriguez pitched the eighth, allowing a run on two hits.
And, given the way things have gone this week, I can't think of a more fitting ending than this: Mark Kotsay struck out on three pitches to record the season's final out.
So, with that, a 96 win season, the first to include a Brewer postseason series win since 1982, draws to a close. The World Series will open in St. Louis on Wednesday.
We'll have postgame comments and more in a bit.
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Sorry guys.
Nobody likes to see the Cardinals win.
"The riches of the game are in the thrills, not the money." --Ernie Banks
Thanks man
See you guys next year
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
Yeah, I've got to agree all in all.
Go Rangers.
Step Two: Develop an organizational plan
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 16, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
There's a lot of debate right now on whether it was worth it
From a fan of a team known for monumental collapses, yeah, it is.
Enjoy the ride, even if you don’t like the way it ended.
Step Two: Develop an organizational plan
by Shanghai Badger on Oct 16, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Yankee and Texas haters, notwithstanding.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 17, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
Braun designed the Cards shirts.
Brewers:
2011 NL Central Champs!
National League #2 Seed
Franchise record for wins
does that mean we get the last laugh?
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 16, 2011 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I want to say how thankful I am to have this community to help me grieve this loss.
And also, I realized that I probably wouldn’t love this team half as much if not for you guys and gals.
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by Yar Nivek on Oct 16, 2011 10:53 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yep.
Just everything went bad. I tried to stay positive and enjoy it. It sucks we lost, but we can do it again next year.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
le sigh.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 16, 2011 10:55 PM CDT reply actions
Pathetic.
I appreciate that people will spin it as “oh, well it was a nice season just to get there,” but no, not really. Embarrassing performance in the playoffs.
The bright side is that it’s the Brewers, so, you know, we’re used to it. There must have been some point at which the Brewers were cursed to forever have horrible pitching. Did they let an evil goat or Babe Ruth or something pitch a game back in the 70s?
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
Pretty poor showing in the playoffs.
I mean there were exciting games, but just not exactly the performances we needed to go further.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Some clutch hitting too.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Even as disappointed as I am right now, I can't go with that.
This was a franchise record-setting season with 96 wins. Likely NL MVP. Outlasted all but two teams in the playoffs.
I know tonight sucks, and losing to the Cardinals makes it worse, but come on. This is probably the second best Brewer season of all time.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 16, 2011 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 10 recs
The regular season was great, but I feel like I would almost rather they missed the playoffs then make fools of themselves like they did. It was just horrible to watch.
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
Well, you're in the 1% there.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 16, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hm, I don't know about that, but whatever. You are entitled to your opinion.
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
To me it’s like a game where you are down 8 runs, somehow tie it in the ninth inning, and then lose in the 12th inning to a Corey Patterson bunt single. Looking back at the game as a whole, I would rather they had just lost in the ninth, even if things were very fun there for a while.
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
I agree with Kyle
What good is it to watch a team do very well, and then not see them in the playoffs? Making the playoffs is an accomplishment. And they didn’t just make fools of themselves.
They won the first round in five games against the Diamondbacks, and they made to six games in the NLCS. How is that an embarrassment? There were some great Brewers postseason moments. Braun, Hairston, and Yuni B were on fire. Tony Plush driving in the winning run in NLDS Game 5. I loved it. It was much more enjoyable than the last Brewers playoff run.
Even if they lost to the Cardinals...they showed Daron Sutton
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by Yar Nivek on Oct 16, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I cherish that memory of Braun's home run and the night we clinched the Central.
It makes me happy when I think about it. I would much rather have this scenario and the hurt at the moment than for that to have never happened.
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I'd much rather have this(I was there tonight)
than to be the Braves or the Red Sox this year
"I haven't been out carousing." -Aaron Rodgers
I disagree whole-heartedly
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 16, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, there's no way I'd ever agree with that
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
i think the real kick in the cojones is that DESPITE all that awesome, in the end,
it’s like we got this and a crappy fruit basket.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 16, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
That is a bit extreme.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
trust me, i am super stoked to watch a team get to the championship series a year out from having LOOPER as a starting pitcher.
but it sucks that there isn’t a TEAM recognition. sure there’s the NL MVP race and such but there’s no reward for tying for third place.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 16, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
We get to put up an NL Central Champions pennant next year.
Tempered by who beat us, but that’s still some recognition.
Fighter of the Nightman. Champion of the sun. Master of karate & friendship for everyone.
They beat us in 6 games
We beat them in 162
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
I like that people are rec'ing this.
It’s still putting a positive spin on what was a complete and utter failure though. :(
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
Hmm. Not saying this as a lover of all things Cardinals (though I am), but rather as a realist.
I think you’re mistaken about the “likely” NL MVP. I would bet that Matt Kemp wins, even though Braun played exceptional baseball on a dvision-winning team. Kemp did just as well, without having Fielder hitting behind him. Not trying to be a troll, just looking at things realistically.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Oct 17, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Thinking the same thing
I see a lot of “we’ll get em next year” talk from friends and all I can think is “hmmmm nope.” But as as you said, we’re used to it.
by zsxander567 on Oct 16, 2011 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Pena?
Prince will be back! (probably not)
Actually Pena wouldn’t be too bad, but I think there is better out there.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Pena?
Why aren’t they starting Hattenburg?
by Noah Jarosh on Oct 16, 2011 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
But that's what I don't get
How did they win 96 games? It couldn’t have been all offense. They must have had some good pitching at some point, right?
by VAPackerfan on Oct 16, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Which let us done in the end.
I think that will give them some experience for next year’s playoffs. :)
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly, I have been wondering where the team I followed all year long went.
After game 1 of this series, it was bad pitching and shitty defense going hand in hand to kill anything our offense could do
Not the ending I was hoping for, but one hell of a season.
Tonight sucks, but I have so many fond memories.
Fielder’s walkoff in the 14th against the Rockies, T-Plush’s walkoff sac fly, Braun’s homer to clinch the division against the fish, Plush’s NLDS clinching hit, and there’s plenty more.
This sucks, but I WILL look back on this season with a feeling of happiness in the future.
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by The Dayman on Oct 16, 2011 10:56 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Where did "suddenly" come from?
Tonight felt like a slow, agonizing march towards inevitable defeat. It didn’t feel sudden at all. It was torture.
I’m looking forward to next season!
suddenly means "3 minutes into the 1st inning"
right?
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Tonight's game was kind of a death march
But that doesn’t change the fact that a season that’s been building to this point since March went from World Series contender to done in roughly six days.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 16, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Great 101 win season
but now I am going to drown in a glass of whiskey. Tomorrow I will appreciate the journey.
Brewers:
2011 NL Central Champs!
National League #2 Seed
Franchise record for wins
Enjoy
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 16, 2011 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
GODSPEED CAPTAIN.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 16, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Awe, all of our picking on the Cards fan's spelling is gone.
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The only thing the playoffs did for everyone
was magnify and expose all the flaws with our team.
Except for the flaw that was Yuni at the Bat.
Somehow that flaw got hidden.
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He had a nice postseason with the stick.
Wish he was a bit more methodical, but I think he had a positive enough post-season. But WarWolf, I am going to break your heart. I do NOT want Yuni back. I am willing to start bake sales just to fund his option.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
In order to raise that kind of money, you might need Jeffress to help you with the baking.
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I will keep my options open!
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Since they lost anyway I wish he had been terrible the whole series. I am very afraid that they might try to bring him back next season.
I have no concept.
They won't.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
They will.
I think. RRR (the first R is for Remedial) on the radio pregame went on and on about how good Yuni was defensively, without being asked about him in the first place. If RR thinks he’s a good defender at SS, coupled with the HRs, they’ll try to keep him around.
But I like your answer better.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2011 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Kotsay, Marcum,
Ergo, stupidium.
i.e., yes.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2011 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Best season in my lifetime
I’m sad that it ended this way but this has still been the greatest year of baseball for Milwaukee I’ve had the pleasure of seeing and I’ve got a lot of great memories from the season which I’ll probably always remember. I’m still proud of our guys (although I hope I’m never put in the place to cheer for Kotsay or Betancourt ever again).
Alright, time to sign Jose Reyes and win win win!
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 16, 2011 11:00 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
No matter what!
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 16, 2011 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Long-time lurker, first-time poster
My heart is broken. Very, very sincerely upset by this.
Continue reading BCB tomorrow, battle begins again in April. Until then: Go Rangers.
POST MOAR.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I like your name
Stick around
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
You sure picked a helluva time to be a first time poster
Stick around. It’ll get better next season.
Maybe. It's Melvin we're talking about here.
We can only hope he figures out that defense has value.
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The Cardinals had a worse defense than the Brewers this year
They seem to be doing fine.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 17, 2011 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Their OF defense isn't good.
But their infield isn’t bad, particularly since Furcal’s arrival.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2011 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
i think it gets added to the score though, kind of like a handicap.
right?
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Oct 16, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
You're actually watching that?
I’d imagine it’s akin to watching a funeral right now, in it’s tone.
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Classy and respectful?
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I am watching Walking Dead stuff.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Which I guess could be...
nvm too soon.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Summit Oktoberfest is my only friend
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
I will be your friend.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
As funny as it sounds,
I’m kind of new to beer, at least quality beer. I just always drifted through life drinking high life, and one day I realized “it gets better”
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
TWSS
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She always drifted through life drinking high life?
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
She realiized it gets better.
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Ah
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
Tired and slightly buzzed, and spent most of my weekend doing SAS programming and game theory...
So my apologies for the lameness of that.
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As much as it hurts..
gotta tip your cap to the Cardinals.. I doubt Texas has much of a chance. Its written in the stars like the 2010 Packers.
Haha, what?
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
by SRB on Oct 16, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Go to bed, boy.. If you can't admit the Cardinals have been red hot for a month
that’s your problem. Peaking at the right time means a lot.
Nelson Cruz.
No further comment.
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Dude, why are you so antagonistic tonight?
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
Just calm down.
Kyle warned you before. We are all on edge. Just chill and enjoy the 2011 Brewers.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
You clearly need to look at Texas
They finished the season on fire and took care of business in the playoffs. Rangers are the easy favorite and should close it out at home in Game 5.
by ecocd on Oct 16, 2011 11:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Should be a great series.. two hot teams
Cards pitching has been great along with the highest scoring team in the NL. There is no fav in my eyes.
Roenicke's press conference
Headsplosion alert
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listening to the 1250 feed over the net
today wasn’t a bad game?
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1250 wssp. Sparky is lol. I can't take him serious.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I googled Milwaukee Sports Radio
so if Google lied to me and didn’t give me the best Milwaukee sports talk, blame Google
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No, it is good. :)
They have many hosts across many programs. He is just a bit extreme with his arguments.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Wut?
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by Yar Nivek on Oct 16, 2011 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Thank you.
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I found it an amusing typo in my physically and emotionally drained state.
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Helluva ride
It ends with some of their worst baseball of the season so it’s not an especially satisfying end to the season.
The team next year will have a killer starting rotation, shutdown closer and real shortstop. Those alone will give this team a one final good shot at the postseason.
The manager that cost his team wins this season showed definite signs of improvement over the course of the year (Hart stopped stealing, Sedar stopped sending McGehee) and still has some things to work on (the true impact of defensive personnel). Regardless, we can all look forward to a second year manager that won’t be making rookie mistakes – just normal mistakes. … Unless Kotsay is. resigned.
by ecocd on Oct 16, 2011 11:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Sigh
I am most definitely NOT birthday. I need a Saito hug.
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by PriceT on Oct 16, 2011 11:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
No more Saito hugs.
The season is over, Saito has to move on.
:(
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by SRB on Oct 16, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Saito is definitely a Ronin, wandering alone...
Much like the lonely Bruce David Banner
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Ron: "I know it was the right decision"
I’m devastated here. And the man is going Yost. I might hurt myself.
Hyatt.
You know what needs to be done.
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Dikembe, if you would also like to do what needs to be done...
the more the merrier.
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I've been listening to Yost for a year and half
Yost never called a 12-6 loss “not a bad game” in KC.. Ned does the “he pitched good” BS stuff..
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Fuck Roenicke
The dude lives in another world. Everyone in the damn fan base knew this was going to blow up and it did. How long do we have this guy signed for?
The last two games were terrible.
But it was a fun season.
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Oct 16, 2011 11:13 PM CDT reply actions
Today's Turning Point:
Having a grown man dressed as a children’s character throw out the first pitch.
That was… disappointing.
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by The Dayman on Oct 16, 2011 11:14 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, that was kinda strange to say the least
I wonder what the Russians said about that whole deal?
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
Hello. I am strangely colored bear.
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by Yar Nivek on Oct 16, 2011 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 16, 2011 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I have no idea
by the time I woke up, Ax was pitching in the top of the ninth and my fucking “time shift” which allows me to go back and watch the game from the start wasn’t working. For a moment I thought if Ax is pitching the ninth we must have a lead and I was not looking at the score for about half a minute not to ruin the pleasure of watching the entire game from the beginning, but time shift continued messing with me and I finally gave up and saw 12-6. That was a tough moment.
Eduardo Ituralde Gonzalez
I do have to say though...
I’m glad that they lost like this rather than a blown save or some other bullshit that would likely have given me a stroke.
I have no concept.
Yeah, the fact that today was a crushing loss is the only thing keeping me from spending a lot of time blasting that.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 16, 2011 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep, worst birthday ever
And I still have to spend the next year in St. Louis. I will root for the Rangers for the next week though, with whatever energy I can muster.
I can muster no energy. I'm not watching the World Series. Can't do it.
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Awful announcers for one.
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Baseball season ended for me tonight
I could really care less who wins since it wont be my team
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
To be honest
I’m not sure I’ll watch much of it either. Now that the Brewers are done I need a break.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 16, 2011 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Although...
I could stand to hear “Written In The Stars” a few hundred more times.
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
Well, the Brewers kittenmittons'ed the hell out of this series.
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by Yar Nivek on Oct 16, 2011 11:16 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I can't laugh, but that was funny.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully this is the last time I ever feel compelled to use this.
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I don't want to see that guy ever again.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Unless he's in a Cardinals or Cubs uniform.
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And if not as a player, than as a hitting coach and infield instructor.
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Then you might want to avoid the final chapters of the Yuni Files.
But I don’t know why you wouldn’t want to follow it to it’s exciting conclusion.
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I didn't want to mention it, but BEARDEDJEFF sent me this text message a couple weeks ago:
The Cardinals pitching sucks and I hope it implodes in the playoffs, lol
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by SRB on Oct 16, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If he did...then that is cool.
I mean that would be the most epic trolling of the whole MLB if he did that.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Said something about potential for a few more years ...
But he was talking a lot of nonsense in general. Also said he was “trying to soak this up”
He's probably emotional right now.
Or he’s remembering that Boras told him never to rule anything out because the best way to maximize the payout is to make the bidders thinking there are as many teams in the running as possible.
But really he’s probably just emotional. He probably likes his team mates, and he knows the starters are under contract, so in this exact moment, taking one more run might be tempting.
But then tomorrow comes. And Boras calls. And then….
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 16, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Step 3: Profit
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If the Rangers have the cash, I'd go there
You go from Casey/Rickie protecting you … to all 8 guys actually protecting you
I doubt they've got the money to go after both Prince and CC.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 17, 2011 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
and he deserves every penny
Cashman gives him.
by ecocd on Oct 16, 2011 11:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Brewers will field one of the best defensive teams in baseball next year
Morgan in RF, Gomez in CF, all-glove no-nat affordable SS and a healthy Weeks. It will be the “f*ck errors” offseason of the year.
by ecocd on Oct 16, 2011 11:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Maybe first base?
When Prince leaves. ;/
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Well,
I’m out. The last few days were mad painful, but this season still gave me some of my best baseball memories. That, and I can still hang my hat on the Brewers being 2-0 in playoff games that I’ve been to.
Kyle, can we get a "Countdown to Jose Reyes" banner up on the site somewhere?
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
You would puke if the Brewers signed Jose Reyes?
Puke from happiness?
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by SRB on Oct 16, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would hope so.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 16, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd prefer Rollins.
Reyes would be bad for the team financially, in my opinion.
by Noah Jarosh on Oct 17, 2011 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Same with Reyes, considering the length of contract they would have to give him.
Either way, I truly don’t believe either one would fit in the budget. Especially Reyes. Rollins is closer, but the Brewers would have to do something like trade Wolf (something I’m a fan of) to save cash.
by Noah Jarosh on Oct 17, 2011 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions
We'll see.
I think Mark A likes winning and I’m sure they generated a lot of extra revenue this year with the playoffs. He might open up the purse strings a bit.
I have no concept.
Barmes still sounds good to me
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Don't think its feasible
Around $80.7M and they still need a starting 1B and SS, 2 bench bats, and 3 bullpen arms. If you fill 1B, and the bench/bullpen internally at $400k each, you’re at about $83.1M. That probably leaves only about $7M to spend on a SS.
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"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 17, 2011 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Also, in 2013, the team has something like $40M committed to just 4 players
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"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 17, 2011 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking Wolf could be trade bait.
One year at a decent amount for a larger market team and he’s coming off one of his better years and at least some indication he can pitch well in the playoffs.
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Interesting thought
although I’m not sure if it would fly.
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~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 17, 2011 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
We've got Estrada who was pretty damn good as a starter, trading Wolf wouldn't be the worst thing I don't think.
I have no concept.
And if it goes in the tank next year
They have several young players under team friendly contracts that would be great trade bait
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
We could get some pretty nice stuff for Marcum and Greinke.
As long as they are pitching well obviously.
I have no concept.
that would be an insta-rebuild for the farm system
I think Weeks and Hart could be had too if the price was right
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
The Brewers were exceptionally lucky regarding pitching injuries this year.
They got through the season with six starters, but that almost never actually happens. Simply having five guys isn’t enough, especially if one of them is a guy like Estrada who’s never pitched a full season as a starter.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 17, 2011 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Houston Astros?
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~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 17, 2011 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes
although I fear Rollins would as well.
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"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 17, 2011 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I wish that whole debacle never happened.
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by The Dayman on Oct 16, 2011 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wish it happened twice.
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by SRB on Oct 16, 2011 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
that and
he’s 31 already.. if it weren’t for his thing, he’d barely have a thing based on his overall record
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Plush hit .304/.357/.421 and played solid to plus defense.
I’m guessing he could play for a fair number of teams.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 16, 2011 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
In his career he's averaged 4.0 fWAR/600 PA
That’s pretty damn good.
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
Yeah, I think he will be just fine in Milwaukee next year
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
not sure on the science of the FG-WAR and the BBRef-WAR
the BBRef WAR is down on Morgan big time.
In the scheme of things, is Morgan’s value going to be any higher than it is at 31 after a good year?
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As soon as that happened I felt ill.
Karma’s a bitch, I guess…
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by DEUCE SLUICE on Oct 16, 2011 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Just got back from the game.
I saw two Cardinals fans with McGwire jerseys. How could you wear that?
You think that's bad.
Yesterday I saw one with an Ankiel jersey.
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Because Jerseys that say "Wild Pitches!" are more fun.
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LaRussa was amazing
I’m very interested to see if his philosophy in this series carries over to any teams next year during the regular season. Using his bullpen early and effectively could open a pandora’s box, there is no starting pitchers or relief pitchers only pitchers. They come in whenever the situation warrants or if the first pitcher just doesn’t seem to have it. great strategy, totally outmanaged roenicke. always 2 steps ahead of him the whole series. Tip my hat
Roenicke had circles managed around him that entire postseason, despite winning the LDS.
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I mean, if the Brewers could hit the Cards bullpen TLR would've looked pretty dumb as well.
Grillax people
ya but they didnt
he was always on top of them with a different look when it seemed the brewers were gaining momentum. Fielder looked like the new ryan howard against lefties, mainly rzepcysnki
LaRussa had nothing to do with the Brewers playing like crap.
Less than nothing.
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by SRB on Oct 16, 2011 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah he did
outstanding bullpen management. The one thing a manager can do to gain an advantage or completely blow
If you actually analyze LaRussa's bullpen moves, most of them are stupid.
Don’t be dazzled by a bunch of unnecessary moving parts.
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Rube Goldberg Bullpen
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they were all necessary
and they won this series for the cardinals. great job by him. it sucks but he’s a great manager
The Cardinals won because the Brewers fell apart. LaRussa is a horrible manager…
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ok so roenike being stupid
as a manager was the reason they lost, but the opposing manager making all the right moves wasn’t a factor? logic fail
Writing the names of your best players in the starting lineup doesn't take a genius
Writing the names of several of your worst players in the starting lineup takes an idiot.
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^not this
The pitching failed us. Sadly, just like every year.
by nullacct on Oct 17, 2011 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yes it did but so did RR. The game Kotsay started in CF wa lost directly because of that decision.
Personally I also think it’s rather stupid NOT to start Greinke at home where he has literally NEVER lost a game. Had he started Narveson, Estrada or even Marcum in place of Greinke on the road and saved Greinke and Gallardo for the home games this all might have turned out a whole lot differently.
I have no concept.
Thing is, all of us are acting like real life is a video game
Not saying Greinke couldn’t have gone on an extra days rest, and attempted to have a bullpen by committee game but it’s kind of impractical in a real life scenario. It was Greinke’s turn to pitch. Plus if you make him wait an extra day it’s basically just saying ‘hey, you can’t win on the road so we can’t pitch you tonight’.
I don’t know. I think some criticisms of RR are completely valid, and others are just out of spite or anger. The guy is far from perfect but so is the winning manager. And so is every other manager for that matter. RR would’ve looked a lot smarter if his SP was any good in this series.
Grillax people
by jmeks23 on Oct 17, 2011 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
after all is said and done
I MUCH preger RRR as the manager of this team to TLR, I couldnt imagine how he would have overmanaged this club
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
by jarlbartar on Oct 17, 2011 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
im not talking about starting lineups
although putting holliday farther down in the lineup while bringing freese up was also a good decision after game 3, forgot about that. another good move
Just because his pitching changes worked doesn't make them the right moves.
We don’t know what would have happened in any other scenarios.
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Scoring at will against bad pitching a good genius does not make
Any of us could have been in that dugout to watch their hitters mash meatballs over the plate
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
Getting pretty tired of hearing how great LaRussa is
his team is playing great right now, and sadly ours did not. This does not make him a great manager, the guys he put into the game gave up fewer runs and commited fewer errors than the Brewers.
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
by jarlbartar on Oct 16, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
he managed his bullpen very effectively
and put his pitchers in great matchups, they all worked out, he made the moves he gets the credit. his team moved on again, ours died. he’s a good manager, i didnt believe it either before actually watching all his moves this series
I want to see him manage with no Dave Duncan.
Dear Dave Duncan,
You are amazing. Probably the best pitching coach who has ever lived.
Please retire.
Sincerely,
Every other team in baseball.
I have no concept.
He's consistently successful because he has Albert Pujols and The Great Steroid Teams of the 1990s
Most of his moves are horrible. I thought most people were in agreement on this?
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by SRB on Oct 17, 2011 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oh, they are
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
I think Kyle neutered him
so there is no need to beat this dead horse any longer
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
This is one thing that puzzled me...
As many times as we saw the Cardinals bullpen this series, how come we could never solve these relievers? Is that a failure of the hitting coach, the players, or both?
by BrewCrewWS09 on Oct 16, 2011 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I dunno, Kirk Gibson really shit the bed a few times in the LDS.
by Archibaldcrane on Oct 16, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Brewers would have swept in a best of 2
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There’s a difference between Roenicke making dumb decisions and Roenicke getting “outmanaged.” Do people seriously think LaRussa had a 1% contribution to the Cardinals winning this series?
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Yup
Outmanaged with a capital O. I have serious doubts going forward about roenicke as well, holy shiz did he look out of his element this whole playoffs. yowza
Sure, but he wasn’t “outmanaged” by the genius of Gibson or LaRussa.
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Brewers bats are streaky and new that going in to the season
and then a long came the suddenly sucky pitching.. You’re going to make ned tost look genius
That's why we need to get Adam Dunn and pray that he turns back into Adam Dunn from every year except this one.
Not the defense part, the consistent hitter part.
I have no concept.
No. No Adam Dunn.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 17, 2011 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I love the Big Donkey. This year has got to be a fluke.
Put him on the Brewers where he belongs and watch him mash 40 home runs and get on base at a.400 clip. You’ll see!! You’ll all see!!!!
I have no concept.
brewers bats did good
until la russa would pull a pitcher the brewers would start to get to mix it up with the bullpen. No starter got past the 5th inning. And all of the time he made the change before any significant damage was done. It’s easy to pull a pitcher after an atrociuosly bad inning but he did it before it could even happen. Carpenter in his game, out after giving up 1 run but you could tell he didn’t have it
In 2 games in this series the Brewers scored 6 runs and lost.
The pitching and defense just failed in those games.
by Zorakathura on Oct 16, 2011 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Who's ready to send Roenicke either a PS3 or XBox 360 with some baseball games so he can practice managing?
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we're all coaching pro's
thanks to video games
by Flag Up on Oct 16, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Meh, we all know better than to start Kotsay in Center with Plush and Gomez on the team.
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I had to have a conversation with a co worker when he told me Kotsay was starting in center the other day
He gave me the RRR treatment that Kotsay is a veteran and always seems to do good. And if you are looking for defense at CF then Kotsay is the LAST outfielder that should be playing there. I apologized later for getting so vocal.
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
Brewers bats just didn't come through outside of one inning
That’s the bottom line along with the pitching skunking it up.. He got shit on.
You must be new here...what you mean is that you want to Hyatt him.
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I agree. They should have started... anyone else and saved Greinke and Gallardo for the home games.
no-brainer.
I have no concept.
This was the most emotionally invested I've ever been in a sports team.
I guess time will tell whether that was a good decision or not…
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Its a very low return on your emotional investment to be a sports fan
But we have been in a bull market the past 2 years or so in Wisconsin.
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
It's been great but this NLCS was far more important than the Packers Superbowl last year... I think a Badgers national title might be able to come semi close though.
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Yeah, when the Packers won the SB last year I said "woo" and that was about the extent of it.
I mean, I like the Packers and all, but this is fucking HEARTBREAKING
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by DEUCE SLUICE on Oct 17, 2011 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think the problem is baseball is so much more emotionally investing... Why?
When you play every day for 5 or 6 months and 162 games its a lot harder to get out of your attachment to a team and its a lot easier to get sucked in when your team is doing well because its an every day experience.
I honestly think that’s why baseball is so much more of a big deal to make the playoffs and its why you see the over the top celebrations just for advancing, because its such a grind.
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by Flanyboy on Oct 17, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I was thinking about it
and I probably ended up listening to or watching at least 120 games this year. Missed a week beginning of August, a couple of weeks end of August, and a few here or there, but man…120 games is a ton.
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by DEUCE SLUICE on Oct 17, 2011 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
And that emotional attachment which I don't think any other sport can compare with is why baseball is the best sport...
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by Flanyboy on Oct 17, 2011 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed!
Used to be a hardcore football guy, but I just love the flow of a game of baseball. I could really give a hoot about football right now, but I will grudgingly root on both of the undefeated teams that I love.
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
Agreed about the emotional connection.
After spending, I’d say 120 or 130 games with these guys, I feel kind of like I know them. I feel like they’re people that I see and know in my everyday life.
It’s not the same with Aaron Rodgers or Clay Matthews.
Is that weird?
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by The Dayman on Oct 17, 2011 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not at all.
If you watched spring training, regular season and playoff games then you’ve spent 205 days in the last year watching these guys play.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 17, 2011 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yikes
And all the off days talking about it.
It’s always odd readjusting to life with out a baseball schedule to work real life around.
Aaron Rodgers is different though.
I feel like every time I look at a photo of the Green Bay Packers I can sense his presence. I can’t quite explain it.
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
You're fine, you're using the past tense
30 years after the ’82 team I still open the paper looking for Molitor and Yount in the box scores.
Is it weird it doesn't feel final to me?
Everything hurts, but I keep thinking that we still have tomorrow to play. When I keep remembering we don’t have tomorrow, it all sucks again.
However, I love you BCBers, and posting with you guys made this season that much more special, so thanks. /endcheesiness
Good times never seemed so good!
RR didn't have the best series
He made some stupid decisions… but honestly despite those decisions pretty much ANYONE he called on fucked up with a capital F. Seriously he’s not the reason we lost. Its far more the players than it was Ron. Ron’s a rookie manager and he just oversaw a 96 win team that totally fell apart in the NLCS. Did Ron make this team great? No. Did Ron make Weeks and Hart stop hitting for average? Did Ron make the defense as bad as it was? No.
Sure Ron made some stupid decisions but how can we be so hard on him when it was clearly a series the players could have won if they just executed like they did most of the regular season and they failed to do so?
This aside, as angry and empty as I feel right now, this year was a wonderful ride and I seriously think we can compete again next year. If not, this was the best Brewers team of my life so far and was easily more satisfying (minus losing to the cardinals) than the Packers winning the Super Bowl last year.
I just have to keep saying to myself if the Cardinals could do all of that without their best Pitcher I am sure we can make up Prince’s production somewhere else and HEY we still have a great pitching staff intact for next year. Watching Melvin fill in the cracks this off season could be very enjoyable!
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by Flanyboy on Oct 17, 2011 12:03 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
he's an average to below average manager
very interested to see what he does next year. Gonna take a little more creativity which i don’t think he has.
That's your opinion... he's also a rookie manager. He can clearly grow from this, and I think he will.
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by Flanyboy on Oct 17, 2011 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
But is it too late?
Call me a downer, but I remember when we were terrible. 100 losses bad, and I suffered through that because the system was going to work out a winner. Well, that was now, at the very trail end of what I thought was going to be a winner for a couple of years.
Is it over? I don’t know, we have some problems to address but every team does. But he can grow all he wants in the next few years, but he might not have this talent level again. So his rookie foolish mistakes are way more costly.
I also think that if we had won because of great moves by RR it would have been lucky.
This team didn’t play well enough as a team to advance, despite the mistakes the manager made.
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DING DING DING!
This team did a lot of things great, but at the end of the day they just couldnt execute in this series
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
At least my check book will get a nice refund
Couple grand back in the bank. to bad I have to wait 30 days.
I took off Wed, and half days on Thursday and Sunday... lol now I'll be miserable watching the Rangers hopefully exact revenge on the Cardinals.
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Bah, just play some video games or something.
Who cares who wins that series? Couldn’t care less about either team.
I have no concept.
I'll probably play Out of the Park Baseball or MLB the Show...
My 2012 Brewers lost in the NLCS in 6 games to the Braves in OOTPB… My Brewers are terrible in MLB the Show… I’m so frustrated with that team. I have a Sub 3 ERA and struggle to win 10 games… sigh.
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I've been playing The Bigs 2 a lot lately.
Completely and totally unrealistic take on baseball, obviously, but it’s a lot of fun for an arcade-like game.
2009 rosters, though. JJ Hardy, Bill Hall, Jason Kendall, etc, etc…
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I may have to go buy MLB 2k11
to right this wrong
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by DEUCE SLUICE on Oct 17, 2011 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I normally play The Show, just wanted to change it up a bit.
Seriously the best sports simulation on the market.
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Oh, no I meant righting the wrong that is the end of the Brewers season.
I’d buy The Show, but I don’t have a PS3…
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by DEUCE SLUICE on Oct 17, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it was a failure for everyone
Coaching all the way down to the end of the bench. No one was blameless in this series.
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
THANK YOU!!! I agree... but they can grow and get better from this and we can be a good team again next year...
Pitching is whats critical and we have that mostly intact.
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I wouldn't mind seeing a hitting coach that preaches the importance of patience a bit more.
I have no concept.
by menchkins on Oct 17, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yup yup
I think lots of people agree that this team will be nothing without Prince next year (if he leaves). And although it would be a big loss if he leaves, I think the team will still be very good, probably not better than this year’s team, but definitely good enough to make a few more postseason runs
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
I still think we are the best team in the division going into next year
The Cubs are awful and rebuilding, Astros are jsut awful, the Reds are good but with plenty of question marks, who the hell knows what the Cardinals will be doing next year if TLR, Pujols and Duncan leave.
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
I think Pujols is on the decline
He will continue to be a good hitter, but it looks as though his best days are (hopefully) behind him
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
Yep
At least RRR learned not to pitch to Pujols when he is on a tear, sometimes its ok to walk a guy who almost singlehandedly derailed your postseason
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
Gotta be either him or Freese.
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You mean the most holiest respector of baseball goodness himself
I cannot let his name leave my fingertips again, IT BURNS
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
With Prince we missed the playoffs in 07 and 09 and would have missed in 08 without the pitching...
Pitching is clearly the most important part of a team and its easier to find good hitting than it is pitching. I have faith we will be right in the race most of next year because even after losing prince our offense will be better than the Giants offense was in 10 and our pitching will be comparable…
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by Flanyboy on Oct 17, 2011 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I see no way
that this team becomes nothing without Prince next year. Think about the holes our lineup had, if we replace .220 Casey with a .275 Green, and replace .250 Yuni with .265 + Defense whoever, the power is gone but the team is very similar.
(Verb) you cardinals.
by Taterwithbacon on Oct 17, 2011 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It might actually be better without as much relience on the HR ball...
I’d like to get a real lead off guy and get that power out of the lead off spot to a more valuable power spot.
I think next year will just go to prove how critical pitching is and how if you have pitching you can build a hitting club around it far easier.
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Hart should have been batting 2nd.
Morgan is a real leadoff hitter. RR just refused to use him as one.
I have no concept.
I agree partially
We could call up Schaefer to play Right, and move Hart to first. The team could run wild and drive in tons of runs.
(Verb) you cardinals.
by Taterwithbacon on Oct 17, 2011 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions
That's a really good point. I always forget about how much McGehee struggled.
If he had been his usual self we would have won 100+ games in the regular season I bet.
I have no concept.
by menchkins on Oct 17, 2011 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Could you imagine?!
If Casey was old Casey and we only had to use JHJ in tight games as a pinch hitter or defensive replacement?
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
by jarlbartar on Oct 17, 2011 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Or as a starting SS!!!
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by Flanyboy on Oct 17, 2011 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This.
Imagine 2010 McGehee + 2011 JHJ at shortstop…
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Oct 17, 2011 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think he lost the series for the team honestly but I do think he can learn and grow from his mistakes.
His job was to put his team in the best possible position to win the series. He didn’t do that.
I have no concept.
I think the players lost it for themselves and he was certainly part of the reason but not the key cause.
So many people had bad post seasons I can’t blame it on the manager… but hey it’s my opinion. Your entitled to yours.
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I have to agree. I don't agree with everything Ron does either
But I find myself having to stick up for him on this board because it literally seems like everyone is convinced that this team won 101 games despite Roenicke and lost 72 because of him. I just think most of the time it’s a cop out to not accept that some of the players on this team just flat out didn’t perform. Either way, great year, go Rangers, and we all just need to sleep on it (maybe for about a week) and we’ll be back to the rumor mill and good times
Grillax people
by jmeks23 on Oct 17, 2011 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
sorry i have a different opinion than you
but dont call me a dipshit. You clearly have no concept. He was given a cadillac to manage, not too hard to win with this team. let’s see him win 85 next year
It's all good, we're angry at the outcome,not at each other
We’ll smile and have coffee tomorrow, maybe some biscotti
And God help us, beer. So much beer.
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by Yar Nivek on Oct 17, 2011 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, but they don't have those at Perkins anymore
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
What's a girl like her doing at Perkins?
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Oh gahhhd...
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 17, 2011 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions
And you're done.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 17, 2011 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Time to call it a wraps
invasion of the newbs this series is more maddening than this series loss.
by Flag Up on Oct 17, 2011 12:09 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
i'm way behind on postgame stuff because of Roenicke's press conference
But I was in no mood to watch Nyjer joke around with Telly. I can see how that gets old fast on losing teams.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
And now I'm REALLY happy I didn't watch FS Wisconsin afterwords.
I’m not angry, I’m more reflective right now, but that would’ve taken me to angry.
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I love my Brewers
I love this team. They were a TON of fun this season. Aside from losing to the Cardinals (it would have been less painful to be swept by the Phils, I think) it was a pretty great season. Remember what grandpappy always said, a day wasted watching a bad game of baseball is still better than a good day at work!
G’night fanatics!
by nullacct on Oct 17, 2011 12:20 AM CDT reply actions 6 recs
I would have been fine losing in the NLCS to the Phillies.
This sucks way, way worse.
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Oct 17, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep.
I tried to explain this to a friend of mine but he didn’t get it (he’’s a Cubs fan first, then a Brewers fan)
Anyway, he kept talking about home field advantage and how great it would be to beat the Cards.
My response was that beating the Phils would be just as satisfying and also I thing the Home field advantage thing kind of sucks. It blows that we had to play 3 in a row on the road, I think I’d rather have had 3 in a row at MP.
I have no concept.
I think 1B and SS are tied for importance.
If Kotsay or Counsell are on the bench next season I am personally going to find Melvin and knock his balls up into his throat.
It’d be great to have JHJ back though.
I have no concept.
I WANT JHJ... I NEED JHJ!!!
He can fill in for what CC use to be or if worst comes to worst at least be a tolerable starting or platoon SS.
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I NEED JHJ...don't hold out on me man.
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oh boy
I can’t wait to see Kotsay starting at first for the 2012 Brewers
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Oct 17, 2011 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions
BTW this is random but a parent of one of the baseball players my best friend coaches at highschool is a scout for the Orioles.
Apparently the Don Money critic of Gamel not being driven to get better or willing to improve is very accurate. At least according to how other organizations view him.
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Gamel strikes me as kind of a douche bag. I'm not basing that on much, it's just the impression I get from him
I have no concept.
Braun will teach him the way
To be douchey, but just the right amount
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
Braun isn't douchey, he's just EXTREMELY self confident.
That’s a good characteristic for a baseball player.
I have no concept.
by menchkins on Oct 17, 2011 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree, that can be viewed as douchey by others
which I am fine with
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
He's not douchey
on the field
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
I don't know, if he had some Zubaz on with it it could be pretty rocking.
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
To be fair
The douche in that instance was probably the photographer who posed him like that, not Ryan Braun himself.
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
I remember this really well, still! Here's the link and a super-confident statement.
“I’m just trying to get ownership equity in everything I’m involved with right now,” he said. “I like having a say in the direction of the company, and I’m just trying to be really choosy about what I get into. But I really enjoy it.”
*In my opinion, Ryan Braun would have to do a lot to not be cool. The Remetees never bothered me, but i also was not impressed when I first looked at what they had a few years ago. It wasn’t the price – it was a lack of selection. And then I realized the ones I liked when I learned about them in 2008 were just prototypes. Maybe not even Remetees.
Even after all of this, Braun is still cool.
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 17, 2011 2:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I will miss Takashi Saito.
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 17, 2011 12:36 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Over 40 reliever has an excellent year?
Might as well sign him to a year plus an option with a big buyout!
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 17, 2011 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions
boo!
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 17, 2011 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions
But Saito's not like other men.
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I need to thank everyone on this site.
Having this place to both vent, rationalize and talk about the future honestly has me far more excited, and less depressed than I would normally have been. I mean, I still feel empty inside but at the same time there isn’t the total despair and hopelessness that I felt before I got home from work.
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You're welcome = )
Seriously though, the col thing about baseball is that the off season is almost as much fun as the regular season!
Unless it’s like the offseason we got Suppan…
I have no concept.
I was at the game so even though it's late
I’d like to offer my reflection on this all.
I feel like I saw flashes of good from RRR, and I know a lot of people will disagree, but I think starting Marcum was the right choice and he managed it well, he gave him about as quick of a hook as possible. RRR is not blameless but I blame the players more than I do him.
I think this was an amazing team and I’m glad I got to watch them play it out to the very end. As sad as this loss was on my way out of the stadium I thought about the great games there were, like Luc’s walk off squeeze, Braun’s division clincher, NLDS Game 5, and I realized, it was MUCH better to have watched them make it this far and fail than any other outcome besides winning it all.
Our team can be VERY solid next year, replacing suck McGehee and suck Yuni with Green and whoever, and I think we have a great shot at the playoffs next year, especially with the Mustache at the helm this off season, I think he can do great things with this year’s payouts.
It was fun to lurk this site and finally start posting, you guys are great. Rangers in 4 (Cause they are freaking unstoppable)
(Verb) you cardinals.
by Taterwithbacon on Oct 17, 2011 12:45 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I agree... isn't it interesting how in 1 year we went from calling for Melvin's head to having a TON of confidence in him?
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It is kinda funny
But he’s made it clear he can build a winner, plus he looks good in cowboy gear.
(Verb) you cardinals.
by Taterwithbacon on Oct 17, 2011 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
There is still good in him...I can sense it.
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We might also replace suck McGehee with good McGehee.
We can hope…
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Good McGehee was never real
He will live on in my heart always as a good dream, but I don’t think Casey was ever really that good, but I know he’s not this bad. Maybe .265-.270 with 20 HR from now on if he can get it together again
(Verb) you cardinals.
by Taterwithbacon on Oct 17, 2011 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
Especially because he’s so damn lovable
(Verb) you cardinals.
by Taterwithbacon on Oct 17, 2011 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Problem is, Good McGehee wins the ST position battle with Green.
Average McGehee probably ends up on the bench or traded.
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I'm pretty sure they don't have the platoon splits to justify that.
But that’s just off memory.
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Average McGehee can platoon at first
With Carlos Pena. Dude hits .270 25 HR against righties, if McGehee can learn to hit leties again we’re in busniess
(Verb) you cardinals.
by Taterwithbacon on Oct 17, 2011 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions
I think Pena could be a really nice pickup for the Crew if the Cubs don't re-sign him.
I have no concept.
They won't because well...
They’ll have Prince.
(Verb) you cardinals.
by Taterwithbacon on Oct 17, 2011 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions
They can't have him though!
We cannot get screwed out of the compensation pick!!!
I have no concept.
I really regret not getting a 9 pack this year. I strongly think I am going to have to get one next year. Thinking 2 seats in the Terrace Box level.
I sat there for one game this year and for Terrace level and not much more than Terrace Reserve their pretty enjoyable seats.
I guess the playoff success will increase the Brewers revenue… at least in my case.
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I dont think its completely out of the realm of possibilities that Prince signs a 1 to 3 year deal
It would be great for him because he would still get gobs of money in his short contract with the Brewers, and still be poised to get his long contract from whatever team has a bigger dumptruck full of money, and maybe by then the 1B market will be a litlle more open. hey, a guy can dream cant he?
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
How about a 7 year deal with an opt out after 2 that we have a secret agreement where he will opt out?
Of course it’s risky if he gets hurt…
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whatever works
I dont think a long term deal would cripple this club. Brewer fans have proven that they will pack the ballpark, buy the gear and pauy $35 for prefered paking
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
True but we lost money with a payroll of 90 Million suposidly back in 10 or was that 09...
This team even this year would have been floating on a fine line of fiscal responsibility from all indications if we hadn’t made the playoffs.
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In Doug and Mark I trust
If they think they can swing a deal, I’m on board with it
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
It would
Look at the commitments going forward.
And next year is already at $80M and needing 7 positions filled including starting 1B and SS.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 17, 2011 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions
We should be able to get Clint Robinson from the Royals for nothing. Wish we'd grabbed Kila too...
We just needed to stock up on guys that might be good at 1st base.
Maybe we can have Nelson Cruz back if we ask really nicely.
I have no concept.
go for it
I won’t tell you the horrible secret about 27 year old rookie first basemen. Bryan LaHair’s also just as available as Clint Robinson. (And Kila’s probably spending his 2012 in AAA because the A’s have several functional first basemen, why the A’s decided to not wait for the Royals to release Kila is a mystery)
Not entirely sure a playoff team is made by diving into someone else’s farm system for a 26+ year old first baseman. But i’m sure someone would do a challenge trade involving Mat Gamel or someone like that.
I’m sure Adam Dunn or Carlos Pena will be available, and will set the team up nicely if they fall into a wormhole and are stuck playing baseball in 2007.
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Pena was good this year
Dunn has been great every year except this year.
LaHair isn’t as available as Robinson (depending on what the Cubs decide to do at 1st) but I’d love to have him too.
We’re gonna need to try something because the payroll is already going to be stretched a bit.
I have no concept.
No way..
He could get hurt. He’s going to make as much of that money as he can. I’d do the same. I think we are foolish when we say that he’ll stay. We need to operate under the idea he’s gone.
Oh I realize he's gone. With all the money already commited next year we'd need to go over 100 Million next year and that wont happen.
that said if he did somehow resign he’d have to have an opt out or something like that.
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Yeah, sucks but the big fella's not gonna be around.
Just don’t go to the damn Cubs.
I’d love to see how many errors they could make with him at first base but their 1st round pick is protected.
I have no concept.
When will he make more than he could now?
He’s coming off an MVP caliber year.
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In 2 or 3 years he might get a deal that keeps him playing throuhg a later age so could net him more... COULD
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Right
He may end up making more money if he did a small contract and then a big contract
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
He'd never do just a short deal though. It would have to be like CC's where he can opt out.
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I'm just hoping.
I don’t think its very likely, but you never know
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
I loved this season
crappy ending notwithstanding. I had booked my visa appointment for 10am cause I planned to fly to Milwaukee if Brewers made the world series, but obviously that’s out the window. Nevertheless, awesome memories, division championship, red-hot august and still the majority of the team will be here once they start spring training. I’ve been a fan of this team since 1998, never gave up when they were shitty and will never give up if they stay shitty for the remainder of my life. I’m booking my visa appointment again for next October.
Eduardo Ituralde Gonzalez
I think one of the things I'm gong to remember most from October is the 10 translations post
… and the bonus #11! That’s got to be one of the best things that happened during the playoffs.
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 17, 2011 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions
You're already trying to forget the squirrel that took over your account and held it hostage?
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Trust me. I have not forgotten!
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 17, 2011 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Anyone remember when our TV deal was reworked?
Was that last year or earlier this year? I know were the smallest market in baseball but we must be seeing some increase in TV revenue as a result of being a better team the last 3 or so years. I wonder how much more that would be but its gotta be something, maybe its enough to push payroll from 80-90 Million to 85-95 Million… Be nice to have a little more flexibility.
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I have no source on this, but I thought I heard the deal with FSN runs out after the 2012 season.
And that at the moment it’s among the lowest paying in MLB. I’d imagine that’s due for an increase if the 2012 Brewers are any good and as a result draw ratings.
Fighter of the Nightman. Champion of the sun. Master of karate & friendship for everyone.
I know that I contributed to their fund
I kept my DirecTV teir at the higher level just to watch the games, seems kind of shitty to have to pay extra just to do that, but whatever
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
The Brewers receive less than $10 million a year in the deal, and although that figure should triple starting in 2013, for now it is the lowest local media payout in the majors. "
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Let us all hope that next TV deal includes 162 games televised, and all of them on FS Wisconsin, none on WMLW.
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WMLW games give me a massive headache.
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 17, 2011 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Looking forward to it.
I don’t know enough about TV deals in MLB. Interesting topic.
Also, I’m always happy to read some WMLW hate.
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I wonder how the future Mrs. Dayman factors into TV profits.
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She couldn't be a worse on-air reporter than Telly.
Fighter of the Nightman. Champion of the sun. Master of karate & friendship for everyone.
In all this wondering who will be gone, who will come back, and what new players are added, it's worth noting.
The most important man of all will be back.
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by Yar Nivek on Oct 17, 2011 1:04 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
My favorite Brewer!
One of my favorite Ueck moments is from a game against the Cubs. I dont remember what season it was, but Carlos Lee was still on the team and he was announced and came up to bat, and there it was, plain as day; a big old “F**k you!” from a very loud fan near the press box. Ueck, without even hesitating; “Carlos Lee has a lot of fans in the Chicago area, and a few of them decided to cheer him on right here today folks.”
Classic
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
by jarlbartar on Oct 17, 2011 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
This is rather exciting!!!
A quote from a NYT article…
“Without Miller Park, which opened in 2001, and a revenue-sharing system that brought the Brewers about $20 million this season, the investment might not have made sense. As he studied it, Attanasio said, the only drawback was a meager local television contract that runs through 2012.
The Brewers receive less than $10 million a year in the deal, and although that figure should triple starting in 2013, for now it is the lowest local media payout in the majors. "
That last sentence is exciting!
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by Flanyboy on Oct 17, 2011 1:07 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Sad moment
I took off my Prince Jersey, hung it in my closet and looked at it for a bit. Then I moved it behind my other jerseys and scooted it way to the back of the closet.
I know we can contend without him, I’m POSITIVE we can contend without him but damn I’ll miss that guy.
(Verb) you cardinals.
by Taterwithbacon on Oct 17, 2011 1:14 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I love my Braun Jersey.
I love Braun period. He’s just awesome. Not greedy, wants to be a Brewer for his whole career. You can’t beat that!
I have no concept.
Yeah my Braun jersey was clearly a better investment
That fellow can play baseball very very well.
(Verb) you cardinals.
by Taterwithbacon on Oct 17, 2011 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I've avoided buying Prince related clothing for the last few years just to avoid that moment.
Although, now that he’s likely gone, I feel like I want a Prince shirt to remember him with.
Fighter of the Nightman. Champion of the sun. Master of karate & friendship for everyone.
I've been planning to snag lots of Prince stuff off Ebay this week.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
Finally home from the game after sticking it out to the bitter, nauseating end.
This was quite possibly the best season I’ll see this team have for a long time. So why does it disgust me that I know they were capable of so much more?
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
I noticed in the game thread you said you were in 109.
So was I, are you the guy who ripped up the Jeff Suppan card?
Nope
row 11 seat 12
I was wearing a Weeks shirsey.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
Nope
If you saw the kid with the tall, thin sign down by the field, I was just behind him.
What point in the game though? I had to cut out at the middle of the 8th, when it was pretty well assured that it was over, because my brother had to drive 5 and a half hours to get home.
Badgers? Getting it done.
Packers? Already got it done.
Brewers? Getting it done in a big way.
Blackhawks? About to get it done again.
Sports are fun lately.
I'm not sure what inning it happened.
He stood up and started yelling “I brought this here!” He said it a few times while he held up a a baseball card. He then ripped up the card and threw the pieces in the air and said “Jeff Suppan”. A few people started cracking up including myself and the Cards fans right down the row from me.
He was probably behind you around row 15.
by Zorakathura on Oct 17, 2011 3:00 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
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Cincinnati
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25 | 20 | .555 | 0 | Lost 1 |
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25 | 21 | .543 | 0.5 | Lost 2 |
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Houston
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22 | 23 | .488 | 3 | Won 4 |
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Pittsburgh
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21 | 24 | .466 | 4 | Won 1 |
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Milwaukee
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19 | 26 | .422 | 6 | Won 2 |
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Chicago
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15 | 30 | .333 | 10 | Lost 10 |
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