Brewers Overcome Rough Start From Greinke, Beat Diamondbacks 9-4 To Build 2-0 NLDS Lead
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 2, 2011 7:37 PM CDT
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PrintW: Takashi Saito (1-0)
L: Daniel Hudson (0-1)
HR: Ryan Braun (1), Paul Goldschmidt (1), Chris Young (1), Justin Upton (1)
MVP: Ryan Braun (+.186)
LVP: Zack Greinke (-.167)
Win Expectancy Graph and Star of the Game Voting
When you go undefeated at home as a starting pitcher, odds are it's because you had some days like this one.
Zack Greinke had one of his more frustrating recent outings today: He was given four runs to work with in the early innings but gave it all back on a season-high three Arizona home runs. He was lifted after five innings and allowed the aforementioned four runs on eight hits, walking none and striking out seven. It's hard to second guess the decision to let him pitch this game, but it is safe to say it didn't pay off.
The offense and bullpen, however, bailed him out. The Brewers scored five runs in the sixth as seven straight batters reached with one out and blew the game open. The Diamondbacks and Kirk Gibson certainly helped them along: The inning featured two walks (a four pitch free pass to Yuniesky Betancourt and an intentional walk to Mark Kotsay), a balk and an error on a squeeze attempt.
Reliever Brad Ziegler, who allowed six of those seven players to reach, was worth -.375 WPA in the game. That's the worst performance by an Arizona pitcher in a postseason game since Byung-Hyun Kim blew a pair of saves in the 2001 World Series.
Meanwhile, the Brewer bullpen provided some drama but came through. Takashi Saito, LaTroy Hawkins and Francisco Rodriguez and John Axford each allowed baserunners but no runs in single innings of work.
Ryan Braun had one of the hits in the sixth inning, and led the Brewers with three in the game. He finished a triple short of the cycle, drove in three runs and scored twice.
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Stick around, folks
Got a lot of postgame coverage planned again tonight.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
Wow
never seen someone write so much so fast!
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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He has quick fingers!
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 2, 2011 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I had to work yesterday and today
so I missed the vast majority of those two games.
As luck would have it, I am off on Tuesday. You know what that means.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
I'll have bourbon goin' if you do, Charlie.
I think it’s time to unveil my Hierarchy of Celebratory Booze.
Is that inappropriate for a Fan Shot?
by Zack Greinke's Paxil on Oct 2, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Its absolutely appropriate
I’m eagerly anticipating it!
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 2, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Oops - Meant to say Fan Post
I’m wrapping it up tonight, will post tomorrow ;)
by Zack Greinke's Paxil on Oct 2, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
rec’d
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Oct 2, 2011 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
QW
Please stop by every game.
My goodness.
by BrewHaHeather on Oct 2, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm going to try to drop in as many postseason games as I can
I’ll try to drop in now and then next year, too. I like it here. You’ve all made me feel very welcome.
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Oct 2, 2011 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
go crew
From nyc
"My plan is my plan," Yost said.
by TAPmoney on Oct 2, 2011 7:40 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
This wonderful Wisconsin sports weekend has finally concluded
Ahhhh. I’m very happy. The Brewers are going to go to Arizona just brimming with confidence. I like Marcum’s chances of finishing this up. Good times.
I think I'm voting for Axford
for closer of the year. Kimbrel’s close behind though.
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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I think Axford has an edge over Kimbrel
Kimbrel faded towards the end of the season
Go ahead, make my day.
by ilikeburritos on Oct 2, 2011 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
1.62 ERA on Sep 1. Kinda like the Red Sox fading, actually.
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Oct 2, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Him and Venters falling apart
runs parallel to the Braves collapse as a whole. The offense was never very good, and they relied on the bullpen a ton. When it fell apart, it all hit the fan.
Axford's stats after the first week of the season are redaculus
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
by SRB on Oct 2, 2011 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Finish them on Tuesday
Brewers:
2011 NL Central Champs!
National League #2 Seed
Franchise record for wins
Marcum>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saunders
I like the chances of that.
Let's trade Reddick for Heyward!
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by QW on Oct 2, 2011 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
2 DOWN 9 TO GO!
I like our chances on Tuesday.
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Oct 2, 2011 7:45 PM CDT reply actions
Moseying on over from McCovey Chronicles
I’d be rooting for most teams against the D-Backs this year, but man, your team is really easy to like. Keep it going!
by Lies and Perfidy on Oct 2, 2011 7:46 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
first time poster
long time Brewer fan from RI making my first post.
so glad to finally see the Brewers back in the post season and actually making the big plays to win. Been far, far too long of a wait since ‘82. (I just can’t count ’08 because the team barely showed up that year).
by slamtheking on Oct 2, 2011 7:55 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
not sure why only the headline posted
and the rest of the message was deleted but
glad to see the Brewers come up with the big hits when needed. been a long wait since ‘82 to see them do well in the postseason (’08 was good to be back in the postseason but they weren’t exactly productive against the Phils that year)
It showed up for the rest of us
My guess is that you accidentally clicked on the headline after it posted. That hides the rest of the post. And welcome!
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 2, 2011 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I was at the Packer game today...
When it finished, crowds gathered around various TV’s showing the Brewer game, which happened to be in the bottom of the 6th. The cheer that followed Yuni’s walk was loud and somewhat sarcastic, and the crowd got louder and louder with each run scoring hit that followed. I would have liked to watch the whole game, but that was pretty fun…
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 2, 2011 7:57 PM CDT reply actions
You had perfect timing
I mean, obviously you missed some stuff, but the best part of the game started with JHJ’s AB in that inning.
by Zack Greinke's Paxil on Oct 2, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
JHJ was on 3rd already by the time we found a TV with the Brewer game on....
.. so I missed the balk, but Yuni’s walk followed by the squeeze got a bunch of drunk Packer fans very excited. And it got louder from there.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 2, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey so uhh..
These are finally the Brewers that we saw in July/August! Our offense is absolutely booming.
I'm Ron Burgundy?
I feel so dirty rooting for the Cardinals, though.
My goodness.
by BrewHaHeather on Oct 2, 2011 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
As long as it goes 5 games
I’m happy
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 2, 2011 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I want the Cardinals
I’m really enjoying the Brewers Cardinals rivalry this year. I don’t want to face Phillies pitching. And I want to see the Brewers draw Cardinals blood. Plus, Brewers would have home field advantage, right?
by gffjenks on Oct 2, 2011 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes they would
re: HFA
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 2, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Cardinals!
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
by SRB on Oct 2, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Scoring Update
Xbox 360: 2 Backtocali: 0
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by Yar Nivek on Oct 2, 2011 8:11 PM CDT reply actions 16 recs
Backtocali didn't actually make a prediction about tomorrow. So unless he tells us otherwise, I'm assuming he predict a Brewers loss.
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
Backtocali at Miller Park in the bottom of the 1st today:
“Cam Maybin would have hit that ball 10ft further than Braun did.”
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 2, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've still got lots of postgame coverage, so I don't want to clutter the front page.
But here’s a FanPost open thread.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
Joe Saunders isn't pitching Game 3
Brewers are going to play Josh Collmenter instead. Saunders has a bruised left hand apparently. Collmenter may actually be a tougher pitcher anyway.
Dang
Would much rather face Saunders than Collmenter. Probably means the Brewers will get Kennedy on short rest in Game 4, if it happens.
by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 2, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm guessing
the D’Backs would much rather pitch Collmenter than Saunders.
Even Kirk Gibson can’t screw that up.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 2, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
cLOLmenter
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
by SRB on Oct 2, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 2, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
LaRussa going for a mound visit to obviously buy time for a reliever to get loose is unsportsmanlike
an absolute joke. he should get a warning at least for a stunt like that.
Braun has a .750 postseason average
That is the highest all time for a single year
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
by WarWolf on Oct 2, 2011 8:30 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Here are the historical leaders -
1. Lloyd McClendon .727 16 1992
2. Mark Grace .647 22 1989
3. Babe Ruth .625 17 1928
4. Fred Lynn .611 20 1982
5. Carlos Gonzalez .588 19 2009
Dante Bichette .588 18 1995
7. Lou Gehrig .545 17 1928
Hank Gowdy .545 16 1914
9. Lou Gehrig .529 20 1932
Edgardo Alfonzo .529 18 2003
Miguel Cairo .529 18 2002
Dane Iorg .529 17 1982
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
haha
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Oct 2, 2011 8:35 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Cool - The Dayman got tickets! Too bad he couldn't sit next to Mrs. The Dayman, above the "c" in Brewers.com
by Zack Greinke's Paxil on Oct 2, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait, is that user The Dayman?
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
by SRB on Oct 2, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
no its me
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Oct 2, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
You are using that Tagothing on Brewers.com?
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 2, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
more
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Oct 2, 2011 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Awesomesauce
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Oct 2, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Can we get a .gif of the Robin Yount beastmode, anybody?
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
by SRB on Oct 2, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I was lucky enough to be at the game today.
Couple of thoughts: I know it looks awesome on TV with all the towels waving (saw it yesterday) but it’s even more amazing in person. My hands and vocal cords may never recover…I don’t think I’ve clapped that much in a game ever. I wasn’t able to make it to any of the ’08 playoff games, but I really glad I forked over the money for this one. October baseball, you rule.
"I guess I'm just a strange individual." - Mr. Nyjer Morgan
by Greggers on Oct 2, 2011 9:46 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
The towels are okay when we're hitting
It’s a terrible terrible thing to do when we’re pitching. It distracts the pitcher and the defenders, not the hitter.
Nah, they are professionals
That’s something the Cardinals would complain about.
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
Spinning white things do not help a player pick up a ball off a bat.
This is so plainly obvious that it hurts the pitcher and defenders that I have no idea why anyone would dispute it.
I absolutely support doing it while our opponents are in the field, though.
Phillies lose! Brewers only 2-0 team in the playoffs.
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
Yeah, but that ruins the streak
of being the only NL Central team to win a playoff game since 2006 or whatever.
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
The thing I like most about pitching Greinke on short rest today
is it gives us an opportunity for him to pitch on normal rest in game 5…or to pitch first or second in the NLCS.
Well at least someone in the national media shares my sentiments
“… whenever shortstop Yuniesky Betancourt makes only one out in an at-bat—he hit into 16 doubles plays this season—it’s considered a win.”
You must be new.
Anthony Witrado is not so much “in the national media” as …well…
I’ll leave it to other people on this board to fill in the rest.
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The Yunie of sportswriters.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 3, 2011 6:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Yuni even.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 3, 2011 6:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Any time he takes more than 2 pitches to get out
That’s a small victory. In his walk tonight, he desperately wanted to swing 1-0 and 2-0, but both pitches were about 2 feet off the plate. Any closer and he would have swung.
I had a count on my scorecard for Yuni pitches seen and Yuni outs made. That walk threw everything off. The other 3 plate appearances were a total of 7 pitches and 4 outs, so that’s good.
I think Gibson has screwed what little chance the D Backs had in this series
We all know the brilliant, old school moves he made in game 1 by not at least getting a lefty for Prince and then pitching to Lucroy with the pitcher spot coming up.
But how about yesterday when he pulled the pitcher to face Yuni that opened the floodgates? Has this ever happened before? Does he not get ANY scouting reports? It seems like he is trying to outsmart himself rather than make the easy decisions.
There he is ladies and gentelmen; your National League Manager of the year!
He’s actually underrated, but that’s another can of worms…
by jarlbartar on Oct 3, 2011 7:12 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
That's what we were talking about during the game too
When they didn’t bring the infield in with the score tied and JHJ on 3rd, I said two things out loud:
(1) “They’re gonna squeeze bunt here” and
(2) “The D-Backs think they can score against the bullpen”
Conceding a run against Hawk / K-Rod / Axford? Dumb
Not knowing RRR will pull the trigger on a squeeze, especially with Luuuuuuucroy up? More dumberer.
Even pitching to Prince in the 3rd (?) with first base open seemed unnecessarily risky – it was right after Braun doubled.
Pretty poor scouting, stubbornness, or a combination of the two.
by Zack Greinke's Paxil on Oct 3, 2011 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions
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| W | L | PCT | GB | STRK | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Cincinnati
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25 | 20 | .555 | 0 | Lost 1 |
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St. Louis
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25 | 21 | .543 | 0.5 | Lost 2 |
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Houston
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22 | 23 | .488 | 3 | Won 4 |
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Pittsburgh
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21 | 24 | .466 | 4 | Won 1 |
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Milwaukee
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19 | 26 | .422 | 6 | Won 2 |
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Chicago
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15 | 30 | .333 | 10 | Lost 10 |
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