World Series Game 4 Open Thread

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 23, 2011 7:00 PM CDT in Game Threads

I suppose it's possible MLB will cancel tonight's game to give us all a moment to quietly contemplate Albert Pujols' greatness. Assuming they don't, though, Derek Holland and the Rangers will host Edwin Jackson and the Cardinals at 7:05.

Join us in the comments to discuss tonight's game, but first weigh in on this poll.

Poll

If the Cardinals win tonight, is the series effectively over?

Yes

30 votes

No

23 votes

Wait, the World Series is still going on? I was off doing bear stuff.

99 votes

152 votes | Poll has closed

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Have you guys heard?

Pujols is the greatest person to ever walk the Earth!

Packers? Working on a dynasty.
Blackhawks? Taking care of business as usual.

Brewers, Badgers? THIS IS WHY YOU CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS.

by Tepo6688 on Oct 23, 2011 7:18 PM CDT reply actions

That's the slogan of Major League Baseball, right?

by kotsaythebuzzkill on Oct 23, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions

It's the slogan of TLR's post-game-three-drunk.

"fortunate, but also lucky"

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 23, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions

I am not really a baseball fan.

I am a Brewers fan.

Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.

by cooper82 on Oct 23, 2011 7:21 PM CDT reply actions 8 recs

If the walls were about eight feet closer

It’d be about 5-0 Rangers right now. I suppose, though, if you can’t hit it out of the bandbox that is Rangers Ballpark, you don’t deserve an HR.

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 23, 2011 8:17 PM CDT reply actions

Nice move TLR.

by Zorakathura on Oct 23, 2011 9:10 PM CDT reply actions

I just rewound and watched it again....

… it’s funnier the second time around.

"fortunate, but also lucky"

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 23, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions

sigh for no more options

this whole “bullpen six innings a game!” thing wasn’t going to work forever.

by Pegasus on Oct 23, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions

Play some Jimi Hendrix! Albert just grounded out!

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 23, 2011 9:19 PM CDT reply actions

It was the greatest ground out in the history of baseball.

by Zorakathura on Oct 23, 2011 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs

How quickly you forget his 3-foot groundout against us earlier this year.

Packers? Working on a dynasty.
Blackhawks? Taking care of business as usual.

Brewers, Badgers? THIS IS WHY YOU CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS.

by Tepo6688 on Oct 23, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs

It was just a warm-up...

One of the valve tubes in the amplifier went out or it would have gone farther (kidding. The one against us was so much better!)

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 23, 2011 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions

They shipped that ball straight to Cooperstown.

by Zorakathura on Oct 23, 2011 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions

...yes they did!

(“They Shipped that ball Straight to Cooperstown” is just waiting to become either a song title, or album title. At the very least, it is a refrain).

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 23, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions

If Manny Parra had been able to put something together, he'd be Derek Holland.

So Derek Holland must have a lot of problems to work through during some of his starts.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 23, 2011 9:25 PM CDT reply actions

Seeing as "The Walking Dead" is on AMC right now...

…a snippet from this article seemed eerily like a reference to the Brewers:

part of the payoff should be watching people we like and root for, not ones who are so lame that the entire series seems to consist of them doing stupid things in the first five minutes and then trying to unscrew them for the next hour.

Make that “next 3 hours” and it seems to fit the NLCS

by Zack Greinke's Paxil on Oct 23, 2011 9:36 PM CDT reply actions

Aw, now I all sad.

Packers? Working on a dynasty.
Blackhawks? Taking care of business as usual.

Brewers, Badgers? THIS IS WHY YOU CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS.

by Tepo6688 on Oct 23, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions

Sorry.

I’ve been referring to these games as “those exhibition games they’re playing” or “the World Cup of baseball,” because baseball season’s over with.

by Zack Greinke's Paxil on Oct 23, 2011 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions

Derek Holland looks like he doesn't think he just pitched that awesome game.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 23, 2011 10:05 PM CDT reply actions

No political commentary intended....

… but that high five George W. gave earlier might have been the most awkward high five in the history of high fives.

Verducci might call it the Bay of Pigs of high fives.

"fortunate, but also lucky"

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 23, 2011 10:07 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

"The Bataan death march of hight fives" - T. Verducci

by Zorakathura on Oct 23, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs

If he could, he would put that in. But he can't quite bring himself to be George Will.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 23, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions

(And I hope he doesn't)

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 23, 2011 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions

He fired that first pitch in there pretty hard.

Now imagine if he returned fire on the shoe-thrower guy with that rocket arm. LOL

That dog just won't hunt.

by Bush League All Star on Oct 24, 2011 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions

Why didn't he just go into a windup?

One of these days, I hope a person chosen to throw out the first pitch will do what they want to if they can do more than just toss it. He wanted to throw a curveball.

Sometimes the people who can’t quite get it to the plate look better because the air resistance (by the time it gets to the dirt 5 – 10 feet in front of the plate), makes is look like the person is trying to put a ton of movement on it and that they meant to do it.

It’s a whole different story when you get Willie Mays, Yogi Berra, Hank Aaron, and the other awesome guys throwing first pitches right in front of the plate. They’ve earned that, and it’s cool.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 24, 2011 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions

That was a pretty normal baseball game!

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 23, 2011 10:15 PM CDT reply actions

if only Derek Holland had finished the game

Despite the display of dominance, he still won’t get credit in the general media for one of the better recent World Series pitching performances. It doesn’t fit their narrative.

by morineko on Oct 23, 2011 10:44 PM CDT reply actions

In other words

It’s like that time Hendrix was just jamming at the guitar store, and Lincoln gave the speech at the opening of a CVS?

REWIND YOURSELF!

by drezdn on Oct 23, 2011 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs

Jimi Hendrix:

“Man, let’s give it up for the Union…somethin’…somethin’ kinda groovy….”

Abe: “Yes, and let us celebrate rings, medallions and groovy brooches… beards and stovepipe hats…”

Hendrix: “Are the allergies gettin’ to yah, Abe? I just got the band 50 boxes of CVS tissue”

Abe: “Well, I suppose. It would make it much easier to save the Union…Thank you, Mr. Hendrix.”

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 24, 2011 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

This game was erily similar to game 4 of the NLCS. Dominent pitching following a disaster game to even the series at 2-2... hopefully the Cardinals don't pull their NLCS stunt and go bonkers now...

Streak Breakers.com

by Flanyboy on Oct 23, 2011 10:53 PM CDT reply actions

And even though Texas won

Yahoo!‘s picture to go with their article is Pujols’ high fiving his teammates after one of his homers yesterday…go figure…

by kotsaythebuzzkill on Oct 23, 2011 11:43 PM CDT reply actions

Albert Pujols Narcissismometer

Game 1 – Pujols’ name not mentioned at all. Boras outraged.

Game 2 – Pujols desperate to have name mentioned, goes 0-6 in series with a game-losing error.

Game 3 – Pujols has the best baseball game in the history of baseball history. Pujols’ name becomes more important than team.

Game 4 – Pujols goes 0-4 again, but name still in lights (Pujols effect!)

by nullacct on Oct 24, 2011 9:34 AM CDT reply actions

Boras isn't his agent.

by Pegasus on Oct 24, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions

He's talking about Boras, Sweden

A town of 64k that worships Albert Pujols, with the residents’ self worth being measured by how frequently their deity is mentioned.

REWIND YOURSELF!

by drezdn on Oct 24, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions

Oops, I thought he was

Who is Albert’s rep?

by nullacct on Oct 24, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions

According to B-R

it’s Dan Lozano.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Oct 24, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions

Apparently they're correct

Link

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Oct 24, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions

A-Rod is also a client of his

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Oct 24, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions

Did A-Rod move to Lozano?

Huh, never knew that. I know he was with Boras when the whole opt-out-during-the-WS debacle happened. That whole spectacle was just asinine.

by Pegasus on Oct 24, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions

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