Tuesday's Frosty Mug
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 25, 2011 10:50 AM CDT
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Some things to read while throwing four outside.
There's not much for Brewer news out there today, so we'll start this morning with a look back: Adam McCalvy has a recap of the 2011 season and says most of the Brewers are viewing the glass as half full at this point.
Here's today's notes on Prince Fielder:
- Dodger Thoughts doesn't think the Dodgers can afford to offer the kind of long term deal it would take to land Fielder, even if their ownership situation does get resolved quickly.
- MLB Trade Rumors has a look at the market for first basemen available via free agency and trades this winter.
Today won't be Fielder's day, but it's probably coming soon: Ryan Braun is blowing out the field in the voting for the #1 spot on our list of 2011's Most Valuable Brewers. Voting for #2 will open later today.
Casey McGehee probably won't make our MVB list this year, but is there hope for his future? David Golebiewski of Baseball Analytics has a look at how opposing pitchers used inside sliders to hold him in check this season.
Corey Hart hit 26 home runs this season (plus two more in the playoffs), and did so while swinging a RockBat. Barry Adams of Madison.com talked to bat manufacturer Roland Hernandez about the work he's doing to prevent dangerous broken bats.
For the most part it doesn't look like any 2011 Brewer coaches are candidates for jobs elsewhere this winter. Here's the one exception, though: Dale Sveum's name came up again yesterday as a dark horse candidate for Boston's managerial opening.
In the minors:
- Kentrail Davis went 2-for-3 with a walk, double and stolen base in Peoria's 8-4 win over Scottsdale in AFL play yesterday. You can read about that and more in today's Winter League Notes.
- Meanwhile, Wily Peralta's winter league season is off to a tough start. He's 0-2 with a 9.95 ERA following his first two Dominican Winter League starts. He last pitched on Saturday, so he should be in line to start again Thursday.
- Huntsville Star Brock Kjeldgaard is playing for Canada in this week's Pan-Am games, and Rattler Radio has a photo of his mustache shot during yesterday's 5-3 win over Mexico.
Many years Ron Roenicke would probably win NL Manager of the Year, but this season is an exception: The Sporting News handed their version of the award to Diamondbacks manager Kirk Gibson yesterday.
Around baseball:
Astros: Signed pitchers Alberto Arias, Xavier Cedeno and Jose Valdez to minor league deals.
Phillies: Declined 2012 club options for pitchers Roy Oswalt and Brad Lidge.
If you missed last night's World Series Game 5, then you missed some puzzling decision making, some drama and surprisingly, a fair amount of cursing. Fox caught video of Chris Carpenter letting out a pretty significant stream of expletives at Rangers catcher Mike Napoli after a fly out, roughly the same kind of thing that led to an incident with Nyjer Morgan earlier in the year and caused Zack Greinke to say some non-flattering things about him before the NLCS (FanShot). You can see video of the incident here (h/t @BerniesCrewRyan), or just read Howie Magner's cleaned-up Mad Libs.
I've mentioned the work a couple of times now, but MetsBlog is the first place I've seen a visual estimate of what the new fences at Citi Field in New York will look like once they're done being moved in. Meanwhile, NotGraphs has some additional renovation suggestions.
Here's today's baseball economics note: After a relatively disastrous attendance drop in 2011, the Dodgers are cutting the price of 2012 season tickets by as much as 60% in some areas.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I think I've figured it out.
Drink up.
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TLR gif during the 8th inning (WARNING: Happiness may ensue)
by proachinf on Oct 25, 2011 10:58 AM CDT reply actions 16 recs
Are we sure he hasn't just realized he's out of gin?
by kotsaythebuzzkill on Oct 25, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've reenacted this moment on the way home from the grocery store dozens of times.
There’s always that one thing you forgot to put on the list.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 25, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
He's just seeing the end of Inception for the first time.
Can’t believe they cut away without showing whether the top stopped spinning.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
by Rubie Q on Oct 25, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Maybe it never did stop spinning...
…and they just didn’t want to waste more time showing a top spinning endlessly.
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I had never considered that.
Mind blown.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 25, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
really?
damn, that’s what makes it so good! and then guessing where he didn’t get out of the dream — or if it was even in the movie…
by Capt Science on Oct 25, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I know the best possibility for where he didn't get out of the dream.
There’s that scene where he tests the sedative in the room of people who live in their dreams, and when he wakes up, he fumbles trying to spin his top, is interrupted during it, and never gets a chance to verify if he is dreaming or not.
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"Fuck yeah!" after a good pitch to induce a flyout is one thing.
Everything afterwards…yikes. He’s just a really terrible person.
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Oct 25, 2011 10:59 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You don't want children to see negative things
Hearing them is apparently fine, however.
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
2-time BCB Fantasy Baseball Champion
You don't want the children to lip-read negative things.
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
And if he's just a trash talker, whatever. I'm sure there are many others.
But to be so disingenuous about it. To hide behind a BS morality police stance. Just the worst. This is a man who deserves no respect from anyone—not his teammates, not his manager, and not the Cardinals fans. This is the definition of what it is to say one thing and do another and I don’t know how many more examples of this the Cardinals team and fans need before they realize it’s all a big bag of “gotcha”. It is poetic and amazing that the Rangers got the last laugh last night and I hope he spends a long, lonely off season thinking about what karma can do in this game.
by kotsaythebuzzkill on Oct 25, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
True
And while there have been numerous Brew F-Bombs caught on broadcasts this season (notably the Casey F-yeah in the clubhouse after a homer and Plush’s F-Bombs after the NLCS clinching RBI) its always been in genuine celebration, not directed at anyone. That stuff happens, this is just pathetic.
"...just throw that pill over the plate and I'll make it happen." - Tony Plush
by thefreewheelin76 on Oct 25, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Even as a little kid I knew the difference...
12 year old DEUCE hit his thumb with a hammer, yelled “fuck!” in front of his dad, dad didn’t care
12 year old DEUCE told his little brother to go fuck himself in front of his dad, dad washed mouth out with soap
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Oct 25, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Carpenter being a duche is one thing.
FOX choosing to re-air Carpenter swearing, in slow motion, is an entirely different terrible choice.
It would be if there wasn't a pre-existing issue
But since the Cardinals went to all the trouble of raising heck when Nyjer and Carpenter were cussing (and the angry fairy was charging in from 1B, and TLR was telling the Brewers they need to keep their people under control, and the Cards players warned that the Brewer hijinks would wear thin), they made themselves the story and FOX is just reporting it. Funny how this stuff can bite you in the ass when you have the media’s attention for too long.
by nullacct on Oct 25, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sadly
You know there are teams looking over their rosters right now to determine who their IBB guy is now.
REWIND YOURSELF!
There's a roster spot for Yuni after all!
(throws first pitch of IBB to backstop)
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Oct 25, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Some smart telephone company
Should use the bullpen phone “mix up” as a chance to promote their company’s text messaging.
REWIND YOURSELF!
Really, at the end of the day I'm amazed this is still the technology in use.
With all the options available, relatively important strategy in a World Series game was impacted because someone in the bullpen couldn’t see a land line phone ringing, and when they finally answered it they couldn’t hear the voice on the other end. And because the bullpen isn’t visible from the dugout, the manager didn’t know there was a problem.
There are literally dozens of technological solutions available that would prevent some or all of this problem: A text message. A skype hookup between dugout/bullpen that allows the dugout to see what’s happening out there. Google chat. A light that flashes when the phone rings. The fact that it’s 2011 and the 1970’s technology is still at use here is incredible.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 25, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I've never been to Arlington
but, since it’s not Wrigley Field, I presume it’s got modern scoreboards. In every stadium with modern scoreboards that I’ve visited, they flash the names/numbers of the relievers who are up and throwing in the ’pen.
If that’s the case in Arlington, too, I’m even more baffled.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
They flash the name, sure.
But if you thought you knew who was warming, would you even think to look up there?
Now that's great tasting chicken!
Yep, I get that.
It’s just, y’know, kind of a big display — one that I imagine the manager glances at periodically throughout the game. Maybe LaRussa doesn’t.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
I'm imagining George C. Scott screaming, "LaRussa will see the Big Board!"
Since the topic of Dr. Strangelove came up.
Remember: Schadenfreude is still Freude.
by Brew Angel on Oct 25, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think a Tony/"Dmitry" conversation would work, too!
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 25, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Counter point: don't fix it if it ain't broken
What is the incidence of fuged up calls to the bullpen in the history of bullpen calls. I’m gonna set the over-under at 2.
< unable to complete call >
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Oct 25, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
If I absolutely need to reach someone, my first option would be a land line
I obviously don’t have one because its pointless when you have a cell phone – but a landline doesn’t drop calls or straight up not work as often as cell phones or WiFi related things do.
Get a ife broseph
Aren't there rules against having a lot of portable devices in the dugout in the first place?
Because people are not supposed to do that! (Even I start to actually care at some point about people getting signs if it turned out people were using cells and ear monitors and that kind of stuff. Sigh).
There is a pile of hypocrisy everywhere I turn, and it disgusts me. Now I can’t think of anything good to say without getting upset.
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 25, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Mildly related
I really think RRR should crowd source us for moves to make in the gamethreads next season. We’d never lose.
I got goons.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Oct 25, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously. I can see the headlines now.
Cameron Garfield leads Brewers on historic 162 win season!
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As far as I am aware, a land-line connection is probably the most secure and reliable.
With that said, it is troubling that they don’t utilize technology more.
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They need to get two cans and attach them with string. Maybe that would work.
Actually, null, here’s a photoshop idea for you: Tone E. LaRussa, Supra-Genius. Find a good scene of the Coyote having one of his brilliant plans backfire on him. (The obvious Roadrunner would be RRR, but unfortunately it didn’t work out for us this season….)
Remember: Schadenfreude is still Freude.
I guess it's pretty obvious. But I just love watching TLR have his plans blow up in his face.
Remember: Schadenfreude is still Freude.
My first thought on this:
LaRussa actually told them to get Lynn up, realized on his way out to the mound he f*cked up and he needed someone to throw under the bus.
So he picked the guy who wont talk to the media.
I hate Yuni.
by BrewCrewBrian on Oct 25, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
agree
there was no snafu. it’s tlr being classy and throwing someone under the bus, as all classy people do. most modern stadiums have cameras in the bullpen and monitors in the dugout. not sure if that’s the case at the ballpark. even if it wasn’t, when rzep came out, why wouldn’t tlr go out and stall and then have him throw a ball and then replace him?
by Capt Science on Oct 25, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
If NFL players can be fined for vulgar language and what not
Why not MLB players? I know it’s probably something with their respective CBA’s but at minimum can’t the league office call Carpenter just to tell him, “Hey dummy, you’re on camera droppin F-bombs, knock it off”?
NFL players get fined for swearing on the field?
I don’t think that’s the case.
If nothing happened when Nyjer dropped the F-bombs on TBS, I can’t see anything happening here.
Get a ife broseph
Maybe not swearing but...
Vulgar things that get picked up on camera such as AJ Hawk flipping the bird.
Carpenter would probably claim that he was just saying "Tuck you."
Since the Cards are justifiably concerned with making sure players keep their jerseys properly tucked in.
Remember: Schadenfreude is still Freude.
Tuck you, you piece of shirt.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Oct 25, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 12 recs
"It's up to you! I haven't seen it. You got a wonderful hit!"
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 25, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
cont'd - "there is a rug sale! Hey... yeah - and buckets!"
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 25, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
*slow clap*
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
Dr. Strangelove is a plot that does not have much to do with last night's game at all...
But the characters talked on the phone and talked about phones . . . like with the Mandrake scene. The movie and the World Series aren’t parallel, but closely related.
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 25, 2011 1:33 PM CDT reply actions
After all the facepalms this season...thought this might help
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by Yar Nivek on Oct 25, 2011 2:14 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
what the?!
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 25, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I really don't know. I just don't know. But I found it and it made me laugh.
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
I think the people at the Red Sox press conference must have seen the picture you put up....
Because they finally stopped talking! That was way too long.
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 25, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think the Dodgers are going to succeed with their price reductions
Sure, you can afford to go to more games but that just increases your chances of being stabbed in the stands.
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
The probability of getting stabbed at a Dodgers game asymptotically approaches 1....
Remember: Schadenfreude is still Freude.
Logic checks out as far as I can see.
Cheaper tickets ⇒ Can afford more booze ⇒ Are more likely to get into a fight that results in stabbing.
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
One time, I went to see a show, and something happened -
The person in charge of the band was absolutely set on playing in a key that wasn’t written the same on the rest of the arrangements. So, instead of just going back one fret on the guitar, he let everyone else keep playing a 1/2 step down. Instead of adapting, he kept yelling out “I’m playing it right! But don’t blame them…they’ll catch up!”
And then the next segment of the song was written out correctly, but people started to transpose it by the that time, to the key the guitarist was staying in, and he was like “hey! They’ve got the right idea, but they are so wrong!”
And then he started to kick things over and walked off the stage and started yelling “keep f—-ing playing, guys! It sounds great. Just great!!!”
So I was scared to see anymore shows, but I think things have improved. But I guess when they got paid for the show, he started ripping the bills in half because he had so much respect for what everyone was doing.
And so that’s why I also didn’t ever give out my active phone number, because I made a mistake and said I’d be more than happy to play some music.
*This is why people can’t have nice things.
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 25, 2011 3:11 PM CDT reply actions
I just realized I forgot to mention what this had to do with baseball...
It has a lot to do with baseball, specifically last night’s game.
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 25, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
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