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Some things to read while maintaining the separation.

After a pretty quiet week, the Brewers finally gave us some minor roster moves to discuss yesterday: Needing to clear two spots on the roster to make room for Manny Parra and Mitch Stetter's reinstatements, the Brewers outrighted infielder Josh Wilson and pitcher Mark DiFelice to Nashville (FanShot). Both players will be minor league free agents.

As I mentioned last week, the fact that Wilson was left off the postseason roster probably told you almost everything you need to know about the team's faith in his ability to contribute anything notable going forward. I, like many, wish he would've been given a more extended opportunity to compete for playing time at shortstop but he hit .227/.266/.360 in 54 games for the Brewers this season, so it's not like he lit the world on fire when given a shot.

It's hard to tell what this decision means for Mark DiFelice, who made it all the way back to the big leagues this season but made just three appearances before being sent back to Nashville and finishing the season on the minor league DL. The organization stuck with DiFelice through a season-long rehab project in 2010, so it's possible he'll feel like he owes it to them to stick around. With that said, the best move he could make for his career is probably to look elsewhere for a team willing to give him a better shot next spring.

Elsewhere in minor roster moves, the team re-signed infielder Edwin Maysonet to a minor league deal with an invitation to spring training (FanShot) and activated reliever Brandon Kintzler off the DL. Tom Haudricourt says Kintzler is healthy enough to pitch now and hoping to get a few innings in the AFL.

We're also heading into offseason surgery season. Chris Narveson kicked it off this week by having an arthroscopic prodcedure performed on his left hip to repair a chronic issue (FanShot). He's expected to be ready in time for Opening Day.

Lost in all of this is a really weird symmetry angle. While Chris Narveson is recovering from his surgery, Mitch Stetter is in Arizona rehabbing from a smiliar procedure, and he points out that Manny Parra also had hip surgery last winter. I'm not sure if three left handed pitchers with similar injuries at the same time is a trend, but it's certainly an interesting coincidence.

Looking ahead, the Brewers are hopefully about to become players in this market: The Outside Corner has a look at the top ten free agent shortstops available this winter. Yuniesky Betancourt is ninth on the list.

Elsewhere in pending free agencies: Noah Isaacs of FanGraphs has a preview of the upcoming relief pitching market, and lists both LaTroy Hawkins and Takashi Saito as "near replacement level" options. I recognize that age is a factor in the likely future value of both pitchers, but that still seems like an underestimation of their abilities.

Hawkins, by the way, will represent the Brewers on a team of major leaguers playing an exhibition series in Taiwan starting next week. The games in that series will be televised on MLB Network.

Meanwhile, here's another note on the upcoming Prince Fielder sweepstakes: Chris Jenkins of the AP watched Theo Epstein's introductory press conference in Chicago yesterday and said Epstein was "not giving off a 'let's buy Prince' vibe."

Award season is upon us, but this is a pretty unique case: On Friday John Axford will be in Chicago attending the American Mustache Institute's "'Stache Bash." He's a nominee for the institute's "Robert Goulet Memorial Mustached American of the Year" award.

Elsewhere in awards: Prince Fielder appears to have locked up the voting for the #2 spot on our MVBrewer list, but there's still time to cast your vote if you haven't yet. Here's the profile for MVBrewer #1, Ryan Braun.

In the minors:

Recent financial reports don't have a lot of good news for Journal Communications, parent company of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and WTMJ, but there is this: The company's radio division, fueled largely by the Brewers' extended playoff run, was the only part of the company that saw revenues go up this year over the third quarter of 2010.

This is one of the cooler projects I've seen in a while: Reader Jon Baas is using Baseball Mogul to replay the 2011 Brewer season, and using this Facebook page to crowdsource managerial decisions to see if all of us working together can take this team to the World Series. I'd strongly encourage you to go check it out.

Around baseball:

Athletics: Claimed pitcher Evan Scribner and outfielder Cedric Hunter off waivers from the Padres and declined reliever Michael Wuertz's 2012 option.
Padres
: Catcher Rob Johnson has been removed from the 40 man roster and elected to become a free agent.
Red Sox: Promoted assistant GM Ben Cherington to general manager and announced that pitcher John Lackey will undergo Tommy John surgery and miss the 2012 season.
Royals: Hired former Yankee coach Dave Eiland to be their new pitching coach.
Twins: Declined pitcher Joe Nathan's 2012 club option.

World Series play resumes tonight...but once again the dreaded "weather permitting" tag is out. It's expected to rain pretty steadily in St. Louis today, and MLB has supposedly scheduled a meeting for 1 pm to discuss the possibility of postponing tonight's game. Of course, many of you will remember that baseball had a similar situation in St. Louis before NLCS Game 3 and that contest was played without incident.

While the Rangers and Cardinals finish up the World Series, executives across baseball are hanging around waiting for the offseason to start. Free agency begins five days following the last World Series game, so if the Rangers finish the series off tonight then the market will open on Tuesday.

The coaching carousel, however, isn't waiting for the World Series to end. The Red Sox reportedly had some interest in Blue Jays manager John Farrell for their vacancy, causing Toronto to alter its policy to prevent employees to interview for lateral moves.

Today in former Brewers: The B-Ref Blog is listing Dave Nilsson's 1999 season as the ninth best ever for a 29 year old catcher. He's in some relatively elite company on that list.

This morning's edition of Today In Brewer History remembers infielder Gus Polidor, who would have turned 50 today. Chris Jaffe of The Hardball Times notes that it's also the 52nd anniversary of the day when the Milwaukee Braves released Andy Pafko, ending his major league career. Pafko was a Brave for each of the franchise's first seven seasons in Milwaukee, patrolling the outfield and batting .275/.324/.411.

Now, if you'll excuse me, the string is tangled again.

Drink up.

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DiFelice probably goes to Nashville or retires, right?

Appreciate all the work he’s done to come back, but I can’t see anyone giving him a 40 man spot considering his age and injury history.

Brewers have kept him around through all the rehab stuff and seem to like him, wonder if they’ll look to give him a job in the Org if he wants it.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Oct 26, 2011 10:48 AM CDT reply actions  

I doubt he'll get a 40 man spot from anyone

But he’ll likely get at least a couple of minor league offers with invites to spring training. Some of them might be from teams that are more likely to give him a shot in the big leagues…teams that are more desperate for help or teams in rebuilding mode with less veterans tying up spots.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 26, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Baseball Mogul Project

I love that game, but wonder how he can simulate the season without doing some specific things to make sure the rosters all look the same.

Biggest problem with that game is that they dont have the comp picks for the drafts when you lose an FA, and only have guys who have made the Major leagues as part of each seasons draft pool.

by backtocali on Oct 26, 2011 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

The only thing that would be cooler about that project

Would be if he was using OOTP. Never played Baseball Mogul, but I’ve played OOTP for three years and couldn’t be happier with it.

Very cool idea, though.

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 26, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Whats OOTP?

I wont have computer access for a few days so I will unfortunately miss out :(.

by backtocali on Oct 26, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Out of the Park Baseball

A text-based baseball simulation – like Baseball Mogul, only much more in-depth and much sharper presentation. (In my opinion, anyway.)

They also have an iPhone and iPad app for ~$5, which I haven’t bought yet, but am very tempted to.

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 26, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brewers Replay Project Details

Actually, since on-field results across the entire simulation (aka, all 30 teams) will play out differently than in the real 2011 season, win-loss records will, by nature, be altered, the replay isn’t really concerned with matching the exact rosters of all other teams. The advanced AI is programmed to play the best possible season with the players on their respective teams. Our challenge is to do the same, only with live managers for the Brewers.

And, as to the draft picks, that doesn’t matter much at all, since we’re only replaying the 2011 Major League season. Draft picks, like in real life, will spend the entire season on the minor league levels.

by JonBaas on Oct 28, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would be interested in Joe Nathan in the bullpen

but someone will probably want him to close for them. Maybe not.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."

~RRR

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 26, 2011 12:23 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I think someone will pay him to be their closer

There’s even talk the Twins may try to re-sign him for less money to be their closer since Capps is also a FA.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Oct 26, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's got a couple things that worry me

1. He’s way better at the Target Field, which helps pitchers. .601 OPS at home vs .837 OPS on the road.

2. His fastball has lost about 1.5 MPH in velocity post surgery and 2.5 MPH from when he was in his prime. He relied on his curve a ton last year, not sure if that is sustainable. It might be, but a big red flag.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Oct 26, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, and he turns 37 next month

Good luck getting closer money Joe – wish you the best.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Oct 26, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll give him 750k plus incentives to get up to 2M

to be a bullpen guy.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."

~RRR

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 26, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa

Didn’t notice that.

I still think someone will give him the opportunity to close… maybe not for the money he was getting from the Twins, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he got something similar to what the Brewers gave Hoffman.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Oct 26, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, it's Jason Isringhausen 2.0

Unlike Izzy, he doesn’t have an old MLB team to return to for the farewell nostalgia tour.

by morineko on Oct 26, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one that clicked on that Top 10 Free Agent SS list solely to see who Yuni was ahead of?

Fighter of the Nightman. Champion of the sun. Master of karate & friendship for everyone.

by The Dayman on Oct 26, 2011 1:32 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Haha

Are we sure Al didn’t write that?

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."

~RRR

by Charlie Marlow on Oct 26, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thought it was going to be Tejada

Jack Wilson may be able to sue for libel.

by ecocd on Oct 26, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess technically it is also Tejada

since he doesn’t appear above him on the list.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Oct 26, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watching the movie "Cobb" right now. Got me wondering a bit about Carpenter, not to dwell on him or the douchiness he's been exhibiting this season.

However, one of the things that’s most memorable to me about the film is when the Cobb character is baiting the pitcher (who I think might be Roger Clemons in a cameo—looks like him, anyway) and ends up stealing 3rd and home by basically kicking the crap out of the 3B and catcher, which incites a brawl between the teams. There’s then a little montage in which he talks about how hated he was, how wonderful it felt to be booed, etc.

Got me wondering about Carp. I wonder if it starts by being competitive, but then is a bit addictive trying to up yourself in the how-jerky-can-i-be. Does he get off on the booing like Cobb allegedly did? He clearly likes making himself the story, but I wonder if it goes deeper than that for him?

Just for the record, for anyone trying to read between the lines on either side, I’m not trying to draw any other parallels between the two (racism, domestic abuse, drinking, etc nor that Carp is anywhere near Cobb in terms of athletic ability nor will he have as impressive a career or be remembered as anything particularly special).

by kotsaythebuzzkill on Oct 26, 2011 2:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, it was Roger Clemens.

by nullacct on Oct 26, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

free agency postponed until wednesday

Fyp

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by Jeo on Oct 26, 2011 3:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

If only

One of the teams had a dome. #bitter

REWIND YOURSELF!

by drezdn on Oct 26, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Must it be a respectful dome?

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 26, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It has a pirate ship with the likeness of the Squirrel Demon from Inuyasha...

I’ve seen every episode, and do not remember a Squirrel Demon, but there are probably a few that were not translated into English. Like the Squirrel Pirate Epic of Magical Kindness.

And the squirrel demon(s) sharpen their teeth and add magical powers to the sword, and it can turn orange?

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 26, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

And then, "Inuyasha: St. Louis and The Ultimate Fans"

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 26, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is what happens when I have nothing to do!

I suggest that a trip to the Tokyo Dome magically fixes everything. Even when no one is here to say these things to.

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 26, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

The anime nerd in me is quenched for tonight.

Now, to procrastinate writing two papers by watching eight hours straight of InuYasha…you know, to cover the rest of the week.

His jiggling is almost hypnotic.

by Morbidly-Obese, Right-Handed Jamie Moyer on Oct 26, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe just write the papers on some episodes from the show.

As long as the titles and dates are accurate when you turn them in, they will at least look like the correct assignments.

You can’t get below a C. No way.

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 26, 2011 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's the Thousand Sunny from "One Piece"

It’s crewed by the Straw Hat Pirates, which explains the hat on the Jolly Roger motif.

(Thank you, One Piece Wiki. I recognized the sail motif, but I didn’t read after volume 1, and that’s their second ship)

by morineko on Oct 26, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Why does Miller Park seem like it was modeled after the Tokyo dome?

We’ve got a lot of mascots that do not have much to do with the Brewers. Even Bernie seems to have been recruited from a separate agency.

The NPB is way ahead of MLB in bobble-head design, though.

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 26, 2011 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Tokyo Dome was modeled after the Metrodome

which is currently occupied by a bunch of dudes in purple who don’t have much to do with winning.

by morineko on Oct 26, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

And people often ask that team about recipes for eggplant.

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 26, 2011 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I've found someone who can help us out...

We should at least consider this. People in Seattle have good ideas….

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 26, 2011 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Lookout Landing has a comment with 6 recs and it isn't green.

That’s a tough crowd.

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by Yar Nivek on Oct 26, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's okay.

I’m kind of happy for them, because they are going to try out some new turf. As for the green comments/recommendation requirements; I’m pretty sure something must have gotten out of hand with the boards.

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 26, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Their requirements for a green comment used to be 5 recs.

I think they’ve upped it to 10, now—too many comments getting greened before.

by Noah Jarosh on Oct 26, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I felt the need to recommend this.

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 26, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree that Sullivan is awesome

But since you referred to him as “Top 2,” I’m curious who your other one is.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 26, 2011 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Grant?

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 26, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW - good job, Kyle.

some of my friends have checked out the site, and I’ve heard a lot of “wow… Milwaukee fans are very thoughtful and creative” remarks.

I’m assuming they mean; “we’re not dangerously drunk or political.”

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 26, 2011 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

But that wasn’t me fishing for the compliment. I’m just curious to see who the other one is.

My upper pantheon of baseball writers is Jeff Sullivan, Craig Calcaterra, Joe Posnanski and maybe Carson Cistulli.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Oct 26, 2011 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, I didn't think you were.

It was just good timing, because I was going to say that stuff, anyhow. Another thing just dawned on me; there is a very big connection to Seattle (between Cameron w/ fangraphs, Sullivan and I think Neyer).

p.s. Brew Crew Ball is a place where squirrels can write guest fanposts.

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 26, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now might be a good time to mention Craig Calcaterra's best moment, ever...

This was probably a link that showed up on this site, at some point.

The comment section is not loading, at the moment. All I can say is that it worked out, for the most part.

*The oddest thing may have been the heightened presence of Philadelphia fans. This is a good read, though, and Hardballtalk is a lot more civil now; the anti-Yahoo.

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 26, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mine would be

Joe Posnanski





Jeff Sullivan, Craig Calcaterra, maybe Jonah Keri and Rob Neyer

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 27, 2011 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mine would be who ever Kyle tells me to read.

Seriously – I no longer actively look for baseball related articles. I look for the mug.

I hate Yuni.

by BrewCrewBrian on Oct 27, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

But I don’t want to assume that is the primary reason for the decision to keep the site tidier.
Actually, would it be unfair to say there is a higher standard there? We’ve got a high standard here, but we also benefit from the very small market, and people often underestimate our awesomeness.

And now Kyle is here, just in time for me to compliment him.

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 26, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Getting greened? It would be worse if it was blue.

I’m afraid I just “blue” myself

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by Yar Nivek on Oct 27, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

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