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Brewers Blow 2-0 Series Lead, Randy Wolf Pours Gasoline On Dumpster Fire In 10-6 Loss To Diamondbacks

W: Micah Owings (1-0)
L: Randy Wolf (0-1)

HR: Carlos Gomez (1), Ryan Roberts (2), Chris Young 2 (3), Aaron Hill (1)

MVP: Ryan Braun (+.132)
LVP: Randy Wolf (-.479)

Win Expectancy Graph and Star of the Game Voting

Since MLB switched to the current playoff format, no team has ever taken a 2-0 lead in an NLDS and gone on to lose the series. The Brewers had three chances this week to avoid becoming the first, but they've blown the first two as the Diamondbacks forced a fifth and decisive game on Friday.

If you thought Shaun Marcum's performance last night was awful, then you must've been pretty impressed by the way Randy Wolf one-upped him tonight. Wolf didn't even wait until the fifth inning to let the game get out of reach: He allowed five runs in the first on a grand slam for Ryan Roberts and a solo shot by Chris Young. Despite a pretty clear indication that Wolf had nothing going for him tonight, Ron Roenicke left him in long enough to allow seven runs on eight hits in just three innings, walking three and striking out two.

The Brewer offense, meanwhile, pushed across single runs in four different innings and scored two more in the eighth tonight but missed multiple opportunities to put together a big rally. Yuniesky Betancourt led the team with three hits and scored all three times.

These two teams will head back to Milwaukee tonight and close out the series with Game 5 on Friday.

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Ugh

I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful

by Michael M on Oct 6, 2011 12:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Randy Wolf sucks.

Really need Weeks to start hitting. He is basically Casey McGehee this series

I am too drunk to taste this chicken.

by ThroughBeingCool on Oct 6, 2011 12:04 AM CDT reply actions  

The ONLY difference is one's a lefty while the other's a right

I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful

by Michael M on Oct 6, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

y*

I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful

by Michael M on Oct 6, 2011 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who?

"People ask me what I do in the winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."- Rogers Hornsby

by icecreamman on Oct 6, 2011 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm really glad

that we brought Doug Davis back and let him wear Wolf’s uniform for this start.

by MisterInformative on Oct 6, 2011 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

.

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by Yar Nivek on Oct 6, 2011 12:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Especially after last night's debacle

You would have though he’d have learned his lesson. Apparently not. As far as I’m concerned these two games are at least 80% on RRR for not pulling the starters when it was clear they didn’t have it. The guy STILL doesn’t know how to manage a bullpen. Estrada should have been on the mound starting in the second inning.

by bluejazz04 on Oct 6, 2011 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

So RR is supposed to assume Marcum will give up a GS? Wolf too?

He can be blamed, but to say he’s more than 3/4ths of the reason they lost these two games is ridiculous. The offense was terrible yesterday and Marcum and Wolf have to take some of the blame, they were flat out terrible and did not bring anything to the desert.

Grillax people

by jmeks23 on Oct 6, 2011 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

So how many batters and how many innings

Do you let a guy throw crap from the mound? It was obvious to anyone watching that Wolf had NOTHING in the first inning. He wasn’t just missing, he was missing badly. And yes, given how Marcum was pitching last night, there was a very good chance he was giving up runs, and of course, he did. RRR could have brought Loe in to get a groundball against a righty. This team has a good bullpen, they have a day off tomorrow, they have TWO long guys in the ’pen. Plenty of options to go with besides a completely ineffective Wolf.

I don’t dispute that the offense was horrible, but getting behind big early sure doesn’t help. And when Gibby saw something wasn’t working, he got out the hook.

by bluejazz04 on Oct 6, 2011 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't this a general issue amongst ALL managers, though?

Managers usually assume that their guy can “turn it around” or “got unlucky”, and thus, the desperate need to keep the starter to accomplish one of the goals of a starter (eat innings) takes precedent. Sometimes, it’s just clear that their pitchers don’t have control or their pitches aren’t dancing – blame the pitcher for that, luck for some, and the current paradigm for of managers not realizing this before the game gets completely out of hand.

I mean, look at Gibson leaving in Ziegler in Game 2. Rattled pitcher left out to dry because all he needs is to do is “finish the inning” to accomplish the arbitrary goal of a reliever. It’s a paradigm shift that I think needs to happen in MLB for teams to maximize the efficiency of their staffs as a whole.

But even THAT’s a slippery slope – if you start yanking guys too early, you get the LaRussa reputation of meddling too much with the mound. Damned if you do/don’t. However, I think laying this all on the incompetence of one manager, when just about everyone else is held to the same standard of arbitrary goals of pitcher roles, is completely unfair.

His jiggling is almost hypnotic.

by Morbidly-Obese, Right-Handed Jamie Moyer on Oct 6, 2011 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

No. It's not.

Gibson removed his starting pitcher last night after three innings and 50 pitches. He gets it. Ron doesn’t.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Oct 6, 2011 6:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say the managerial score card is also tied 2-2.

Gibson made some weird moves in the first two games, RRR stuck with starters for too long in games 3 & 4.

by Cervercero on Oct 6, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

You know this was a weird game...

when Yuni B has more hits than Prince, Braun and Rickie combined.

by Celtin on Oct 6, 2011 12:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Runners Scoring In Position?

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Oct 6, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

whoops

apparently my typing is as good as Randy Wolf’s pitching.

by inertia53 on Oct 6, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

All the Brewers have to do is win at home with Yovani on the mound.

That doesn’t sound too bad.

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by Yar Nivek on Oct 6, 2011 12:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Gotta say I pretty much agree.

I missed most of the mayhem tonight while in a car, but I got home in the 8th and never bothered to reopen the gamethread given the score.

"fortunate, but also lucky"

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 6, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

FANS DISAPPOINTED WHEN TEAM GETS ASS KICKED.

Stop the presses, I guess.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Oct 6, 2011 6:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't mind disappointment.

I get tired of the pronouncements of doom and the “we suck” every time the other team scores a run. If I wanted that, I’d be a Cub fan and hang around bleed cubbie blue.

"fortunate, but also lucky"

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 6, 2011 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Seems we have a new candidate for poster child of antagonism.

"People ask me what I do in the winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."- Rogers Hornsby

by icecreamman on Oct 6, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you aware of the irony of your comment?

I’m aware of the irony of mine. I mean, I moaning about other people moaning. You’re moaning about other people moaning about other people moaning, and telling me that I shouldn’t tell others what they can or can’t tell still others.

"fortunate, but also lucky"

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 6, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, it's all very meta.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Oct 6, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was a frustrating game

The offense did just about enough to win, and was let down by the pitching. Compare that with last night, where neither side performed.

4 HR is 3 too many to give up by this pitching staff.

IMHO the negativity sprang forth fully-clothed from Randy Wolf’s self-immolation.

Call me the metaphor mixer. ;)

by Zack Greinke's Paxil on Oct 6, 2011 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

We ran it up the flagpole and the ship sailed!

Dilbert: That’s a mixed metaphor.
Pointy-Haired Boss: Yeah, so what’s so bad about that?
D: Actually…I don’t know.
PHB: Ah, he who laughs last…makes waste.

His jiggling is almost hypnotic.

by Morbidly-Obese, Right-Handed Jamie Moyer on Oct 6, 2011 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just don't understand this

“fans telling other fans how they should react to the game” business. You think it’s too negative and aren’t going to participate? Fine.

But scolding people like they’re naughty children, not because they did anything to your personally but because they took out their frustration with their favorite team on an anonymous website? That I don’t get.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Oct 6, 2011 6:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Boy oh boy

All the people that discounted my comment last night about Yo starting tonight on 3.5 days rest and Greinke starting Friday on full rest if needed…

How did you like that heaping pile of Wolf you just got?

Seriously, 30 years of futility and Roenicke is gonna go down with Wolf and Gallardo instead of the perfectly reasonable choice of Gallardo and Greinke to get to LCS.

Yeah Wolf! Lets do it

by minnebrew on Oct 6, 2011 12:18 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd rather have Greinke for the next series.

Why sacrifice your top two pitchers for the next series when you were up in the series

Greinke game 1 and 5 and Gallardo 3 and (if needed) 7 is just dandy with me for the next series.

Grillax people

by jmeks23 on Oct 6, 2011 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

It could not have possibly been any worse

than Wolf was last night.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Oct 6, 2011 6:18 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

True

But then you wouldnt have him available for the Friday game.

Just not a big fan of starting guys on short rest.

Now you get to use your “curently” best pitcher, fully rested, at home, and have your ace waiting in the wings if need be. If you start Gallardo yesterday, you dont have any really good options available in an emergency for Friday.

by backtocali on Oct 6, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sure you would..

Wolf would have been available in an emergency. It’s likely Estrada and Narveson would also have been ready.

Gallardo was close enough to full rest last night. With the early game last Saturday combined with the late start last night he was actually pretty close to normal rest if you break down the hours. It wouldn’t have terribly screwed up their rotation for next round either. Marcum, Gallardo, Greinke, Wolf/Narveson games 1-4 all on normal rest. Not bad

Water under the bridge though. Gibson was outmanaged the first 2 games of the series but he’s been all over it these last 2 games. Pulling Saunders last night was an excellent choice, great managing.

by minnebrew on Oct 6, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Was it just me

Or did Chase Field’s outfield look impossibly deep on Braun’s and Hart’s flyballs tonight? Christ, playing at Miller will look a little league field.

by John Carlson on Oct 6, 2011 12:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Wasn't just you...

… and don’t forget about the Marcum’s drive to the wall in center last night too.

Oh, and I could have punched Uecker for his call on Hart’s fly-out with the bases loaded. Even when I know he’s probably getting worked up over a fly-out, I fall for it every time.

"fortunate, but also lucky"

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 6, 2011 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't get sucked in on that one

I’ve learned that generally, when Uecker’s home-run call is delayed (i.e., when it starts with, “Fly ball … deep left-center” instead of, “Swing and a drive! And deep!”), like on Corey’s flyout, it’s not going out. He’s just getting the call revved up just in case.

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 6, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

All you gotta do is pull it and you'll hit a HR

See basically every one of the D’bags HR’s

Grillax people

by jmeks23 on Oct 6, 2011 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Which is why they've filled their lineup with pull-hitters.

Perfect example of a team built to fit the quirks of their ballpark, especially when combined with all that outfield range to cover the massive gaps in left-center and right-center.

by Cheeseandcorn on Oct 6, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rickie Weeks hitting .067 for the series.

Obviously the pitching the last 2 nights has been terrible, and Roenicke’s been out-managed too, but this team probably won’t win another game without a contribution out of the 5 hole. The games have looked bigger than him the last 2 nights.

"fortunate, but also lucky"

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 6, 2011 12:21 AM CDT reply actions  

"Roenicke's been out-managed"

By Kirk Gibson???

"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder

by SRB on Oct 6, 2011 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kirk Gibson

was 10 feet away from being the only manager ever to win manager of the year and be canned for being incompetent in the same season. Don’t tell me roenicke was “out-managed”.

by evand on Oct 6, 2011 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

The playoffs are a series of one-game seasons.

Gibson is managing his team accordingly. Roenicke is not. That’s why Roenicke is being outmanaged.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Oct 6, 2011 6:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Straw man argument.

No one said Gibson was a genius. I sure didn’t.

You can get out-managed by not understanding the circumstances and making bad moves no matter how stupid the guy on the other side is. In Milwaukee Gibson made mistakes and Roenicke didn’t. In Arizona the situations have reversed. RR hasn’t responded well to two consecutive poor outings from his starters.

"fortunate, but also lucky"

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 6, 2011 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

So yeah, I'm basically agreeing with Rubie.

I don’t like it any more than he does, I’m sure.

"fortunate, but also lucky"

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Oct 6, 2011 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gibson made a very nice move yesterday pulling Saunders.

Although he wasn’t lighting it up, he wasn’t getting walloped either. Pinch hitting Cowgill, who came through with an RBI hit, even though it was early was a good decision (I came to this conclusion before he got the hit). By doing this, he can make sure the Brewers don’t get settled in vs. Saunders.

"People ask me what I do in the winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."- Rogers Hornsby

by icecreamman on Oct 6, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't worry folks...

it’s all part of the plan to maximize playoff revenue… Brewers got this!

Streak Breakers.com

by Flanyboy on Oct 6, 2011 12:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Poetic justice for a Mexican-born pitcher to eliminate the Arizona team.

Wolf pitched like shit in order to set this up.

"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder

by SRB on Oct 6, 2011 12:40 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

We are

the best home team in baseball. We have a very capable pitcher on the mound who just spun a gem in game 1 on the same mound. We are a team built for miller park. Seriously, step off the ledge people. On May 1st when we were sucking majorly, I think any one of us would have been over joyed by a game 5 in the NLDS at home. Chill….

by evand on Oct 6, 2011 12:41 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

They were the 3rd best Home Team in baseball (or the NL, I forget which)

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by Yar Nivek on Oct 6, 2011 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

They being Dbacks.

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by Yar Nivek on Oct 6, 2011 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess its a good thing that game 5

is at miller park….My point was that we are playing at home and we are the best at home. It doesnt matter how good the dbacks are at home now….the dbacks are the second worst road team in the playoffs….so my point was that we as a fan base need to stop panicking.

by evand on Oct 6, 2011 1:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Appreciate the heavy dose of reality

Although that destroyed my incentive to stick here and finish the doom and gloom; guess I’d better finish the Nietzsche that I’ve been putting off. Übermensch, and all.

His jiggling is almost hypnotic.

by Morbidly-Obese, Right-Handed Jamie Moyer on Oct 6, 2011 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep!

New day, new attitude, I’m ready for a win Friday!

by Celtin on Oct 6, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

The last time Wolf pitched against the Diamondbacks

He gave up 7 runs, and we lost. The next day Gallardo came back to shut them down (at home) and we started our pennant run, going 36-12 over the next 48 games.

by nullacct on Oct 6, 2011 8:10 AM CDT reply actions  

i like the sound of this history lesson repeating itself.

i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!

by sowingwildoats on Oct 6, 2011 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Brewers #3, #4, and #5 starters

9 IP, 17 H, 7 BB, 17 ER, 2.67 WHIP, 17.00 ERA

by TSmith34 on Oct 6, 2011 8:27 AM CDT reply actions  

RISP

This is our concern, dude.

Free Saito-Hugs for everybody! - SRB

by PriceT on Oct 6, 2011 9:47 AM CDT reply actions  

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