Thursday's Frosty Mug
Some things to read while filling up.
Dale Sveum's offseason adventure might be drawing to a close this morning. The Cubs have reportedly offered their managerial job to him, although he has yet to accept (FanShot). Rumor has it he's waiting to hear back from the Red Sox, but their ownership has derailed their search by requesting a manager with major league experience. Jack Moore more or less summed up my feelings:
Maybe the Brewers will miss Sveum, but I just can't think of much tangible impact the guy had on the organization. Felt he was just "there."
The Hall of Very Good talked to Darryl Hamilton about Sveum, his former teammate.
Elsewhere in managerial notes, as expected Ron Roenicke finished second in the voting for NL Manager of the Year (FanShot). Roenicke received three first place votes but was ranked second on 25 ballots.
If this week is any indication, this offseason's biggest Brewer stories might involve contract extensions, not trades or free agent signings. MLB Trade Rumors reports the Brewers are discussing the possibility of extending Shaun Marcum, Zack Greinke and possibly John Axford this winter.
Ron Roenicke and Mark Attanasio both met with reporters at the Pfister yesterday to discuss this week's changes to the Brewer roster and the work that remains to be done. Attanasio seemed to imply that Casey McGehee will be back, while Roenicke stressed the important roles Craig Counsell and Mark Kotsay played on last year's team. The Official Site has video of Attanasio's comments.
Beyond that, there's not much going on. Let's move on to the Prince Fielder notes:
- Grant Brisbee of Baseball Nation predicts Fielder will get seven years and $161 million from the Rangers.
- Howie Magner's gut still predicts Fielder will end up in Seattle.
Elsewhere in free agency, the Brewers met yesterday with agent Barry Meister, who represents Clint Barmes. Chris Cwik of FanGraphs says Barmes is "Mr. Popular" this winter.
Jon Heyman reports that interest is also starting to pick up for Francisco Rodriguez. Heyman rates him behind Ryan Madson and Heath Bell, but ahead of Francisco Cordero.
Meanwhile, the trade market will probably heat up at some point. Nick Prill of The Brewers Bar has a look at the pros and cons that could come from the Brewers trading Randy Wolf.
So what do you think will happen this winter? Vince from Miller Park Drunk has a set of predictions for you to consider.
Who knew assigning a nickname was this hard? A second attempt to give away the moniker "Interrobang" at NotGraphs proved unsuccessful, so Dayn Perry needs your help deciding what to do next. Perry also has a picture of Bob Uecker's plaque at the Wisconsin Meat Industry Hall of Fame.
Everyone else is talking about this, so I guess I might as well mention it: Chad Harbach, Wisconsin native and author of The Art Of Fielding, wrote a piece for Grantland about Game 6 of the NLCS (FanShot). Some people really seemed to enjoy it, but I bailed after two paragraphs. Your results may vary.
In Arizona, 2011 first round pick Jed Bradley wrapped up his AFL season yesterday. He allowed two runs on four hits, walking one and striking out three in Peoria's 4-3 win over Scottsdale, and you can read more about the performance in today's Winter League Notes.
Bradley finished AFL play with a 6.48 ERA over five outings (two starts), walking four and striking out eight in 8.1 innings. Here's what Adam Foster of Project Prospect had to say about him:
I'm impressed with Jed Bradley's FB movement, command and ability to keep the ball done (sic) in the zone.
Early exit for Jed Bradley. He was sharp but hittable tonight. He's not going to overpower guys, but he'll pick some apart.
Elsewhere in the minors:
- John Steinmiller is still in Arizona witnessing the final days of the AFL. Yesterday he interviewed Zelous Wheeler and shot these videos of Jed Bradley and Brandon Kintzler in action.
- Not pictured: Kentrail Davis had a double and a triple and scored two of Peoria's four runs yesterday.
- Seedlings to Stars has a post on Scooter Gennett, who will likely finish second in the AFL batting race.
- @Mass_Haas found a pretty impressive video of outs Helena pitcher Alex Jones recorded in 2011.
- This morning I failed miserably at the Wisconsin Timber Rattlers' Spot the Difference challenge. Maybe you'll do better?
Elsewhere in Arizona: Manny Parra threw a bullpen session yesterday. John Steinmiller has video of that, too.
Our player-by-player look at the 2011 Brewers continued yesterday with this profile of LaTroy Hawkins. As you can probably tell I'm well behind schedule today, but we'll have another profile later this afternoon.
Around baseball:
Astros: Removed catcher Carlos Corporan from their 40 man roster. He will be a free agent.
Blue Jays: Claimed pitcher Cole Kimball off waivers from the Nationals.
Cardinals: Named former assistant hitting coach Mike Aldrete their new bench coach and Chris Maloney their first base coach.
Diamondbacks: Signed infielder Rusty Ryal to a minor league deal.
Giants: Signed outfielder Gregor Blanco to a minor league deal.
Phillies: Are expected to re-sign catcher Brian Schneider.
Twins: Re-signed pitcher Phil Dumatrait to a minor league deal.
Today in former Brewers: Mark Kotsay's new deal with the Padres is official. Here's what he had to say about his time in Milwaukee:
"We had a special club," Kotsay said of the Brewers. "But at this point, all signs pointed to coming back to San Diego. It's tied to multiple things -- my family is here and it gives me a chance to be part of an organization that's growing."
Today in baseball economics: The Dodgers spent $104.1 million on player salaries last season, but that number is expected to dip below $100 million this season.
It's funny because it's true: Grant Brisbee of Baseball Nation found a Youtube video that serves as an excellent metaphor for a lot of the internet's baseball chatter.
This, however, isn't funny. Juan Francisco of the Reds became the latest victim of crime in Venezuela as he was robbed at gunpoint by men dressed as police yesterday.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going back to following beat writers.
Drink up.
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extending Greinke now would be the smart move
extending Marcum would only be smart if it’s for a year or two. extending Axford now would be ridiculously stupid.
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Nov 17, 2011 11:50 AM CST reply actions
Owners approve the sale of the Astros & addition of 2nd wild card.
News just came out within the last half hour.
All that remains is for the new CBA to be signed and these will become official. Astros move as early as 2013, 2nd wild card could be added for next season.
Contributor on Brew Crew Ball, Commissioner of Prognostikeggers, Owner of a broken sarcasm detector
That's what is planned.
According to the articles I’ve read, it will be a one-game playoff between the two wild card teams in each league.
Contributor on Brew Crew Ball, Commissioner of Prognostikeggers, Owner of a broken sarcasm detector
such a horrible idea
we’re gonna get a situation where the second place WC team is like 5-10 games behind the Wild Card leader and they face off against each other. It’s not fair to that team with the lead that they have to play an extra game.
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Nov 17, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Totally agree
This is a horrible, horrible idea. The only way I can rationalize it is by considering that the other wild card team doesn’t really deserve to be there either.
by nullacct on Nov 17, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
There would have been
none of the craziness on the final day of the season this past year if there were 2 wild card teams.
"I haven't been out carousing." -Aaron Rodgers
by gavitron9 on Nov 17, 2011 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hmmmmm
Missing out on the last day fantastic excitement rather than the chance that the Braves would have beaten the Cards in a one game play-off…
"I love it when any team called 'The Brew Crew' wins": Tad Kubler
"LOLOL I LOVE YUNI!!!!": ThroughBeingCool
The way the Brewers played in the NLCS,
they wouldn’t have beaten the Braves or Philly.
"I haven't been out carousing." -Aaron Rodgers
I can live with that
Although it does diminish the meaning of the regular season just a bit. This year not so much, but in years past the WC winner had 3 4 or 5 wins less than the Wild Card Winner.
Its a slippery slope. Pretty soon, you’ll have an NBA/NHL type situation. If you let the owners dictate how much more money they can make they sooner or later will run the game into the ground. Especially with a Commissioner like Selig in place.
by backtocali on Nov 17, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Selig won't be around long enough for that to happen
Unless he changes his mind about retiring after next season.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
His replacement could be worse in those respects
After the owners ran Vincent out of that office and got thier puppet in place in Selig, they knew that that would be the model for future Commishes.
the CBA proposed so far, this extra playoff team issue and the watering down of the regular season with non stop inter league contests are all big money ideas by owners to diminsh the game while still putting money in their pockets. Fails by Selig.
by backtocali on Nov 17, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Or...
It could be part of a broader very long term strategy to get rid of the DH, but steps have to be taken very slowly and stealth like because no one likes change.
by Saberilliterate on Nov 17, 2011 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
Could be
But I dont see them getting rid of the DH. Chicks dig the long ball, and the non fan baseball fan loves football type scores. DH allows that, prolongs many players careers’ and more offense means more ticket and revenues. More revenue good, no matter that damage to the game according to the owners.
by backtocali on Nov 17, 2011 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So far...
… it seems like an open secret in baseball circles that he’s not going to retire as scheduled. His wife laughed out loud at the suggestion that he would retire next year during a recent Selig interview.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 17, 2011 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
The thing is, this elevates the division championships
Since the Wild Card “round” is one-and-done, there’s a ton more incentive to win your division instead of being content to sit in a Wildcard position. I’m not entirely against this.
Small sad part about the move not happening until 2013
The Astros can’t use Carlos Lee as a full-time DH in the last year of his contract.
Contributor on Brew Crew Ball, Commissioner of Prognostikeggers, Owner of a broken sarcasm detector
Even more sad
That Lee’s value was actually increased this past season with his defensive play at 1B.
Melvin has already said he’s leaning toward giving Mat Gamel a shot at first base in 2012 assuming things don’t pan out with Fielder and the Brewers don’t go out and sign another free agent.
So assuming they don’t have ANYONE else to play first base, Melvin is CONSIDERING letting Gamel compete for the job? Why Gamel is even in the organization anymore?
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
2-time BCB Fantasy Baseball Champion
As a fallback option at 1B
I was under the assumption that’s how most fans viewed him, didn’t think anything DM said was too controversial
Get a ife broseph
I think the point he was trying to make was...
it was a “no shit” moment. Obviously if the Brewers don’t bring back Fielder, or bring in any one else, Gamel will probably be the guy. The only funny part about the statement wast that even if Fielder isn’t back (which he probably isn’t going to be) and no one else is going to be brought it, Gamel would still have to compete for the job…against who?
by evand on Nov 17, 2011 12:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Gamel has a history of offseason work ethic problems
I don’t think it was that funny, more of a pointed comment to try and motivate him in the offseason.
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Nov 17, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Basically, yes
You may be right Supertramp that this is a comment to try to motivate him during the offseason. It just always seems like Gamel is lower in the org’s plans than I think. I was also under the impression that Gamel was the fall-back option, but I guess I was pretty confident that if no one was brought in he was basically assured of the spot. Melvin’s comment seems to me that he has even less faith in Gamel than that.
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
2-time BCB Fantasy Baseball Champion
Working on majors' first all-edible infield
Looking to sign 2B Callix Crabbe, with Mike Lamb filling in at 3B.
Why not?
Felix Pie (I know, it’s not pronounced like that), Mike Trout and Coco Crisp.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
by sjlee on Nov 17, 2011 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Halos won't trade Trout
But I bet Tim Salmon could be ‘lured’ out of retirement.
Remember: Schadenfreude is still Freude.
by Brew Angel on Nov 17, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
punintentional?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Nov 17, 2011 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
If you've ever watched
the set of “Bush Tucker Trials” that are presented for celebrities on one UK TV programme then you could have Albert Pujols in that infield…
"I love it when any team called 'The Brew Crew' wins": Tad Kubler
"LOLOL I LOVE YUNI!!!!": ThroughBeingCool
The sad thing is,
Being robbed at gunpoint in Venezuela by people wearing police uniforms doesn’t necessarily mean that the crooks weren’t actual police officers.
I was thinking the same thing
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Nov 17, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
Will Sveum take any other Brewer coaches with him, or does Theo pick his staff?
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ed Sedar go with him
Get a ife broseph
STOP sign?

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Nov 17, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
What? No way...
Not unless the Brewers aren’t tendering him a contract for some reason.
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
Seeing that video of Kintzler
gets me all excited to see him in the bullpen again next year. Before he got hurt last year, his stuff looked downright electric – I remember something or other about Marcum helping him with his changeup, which caused a drastic improvement.
I’m probably excited over someone bound to be an average reliever at best, but still.
Being an average MLB reliever isn't a bad thing
Particularly since there’s a few holes in the bullpen.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Just heard on the radio...
Sveum is officially the Cubs manager via 1250 WSSP
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Nov 17, 2011 1:43 PM CST reply actions
mlb.com
The team has scheduled a 9 a.m. CT media gathering at Wrigley Field and said it was to introduce Sveum, previously the Brewers’ hitting coach.
I am glad for Sveum, just wish he went to Boston. :)
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Nov 17, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He probably would've if they gave him an offer
But that wasn’t going to happen since their ownership wants someone with MLB experience (probably more than a month).
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I like the Chicago move.
If it doesn’t work then – lol – it’s the Cubs. But if it does work out, then we don’t have to hate them, because they’re not going to be a bunch of jerkwads like STL with Sveum in charge and they can just be our neighbor-done-good-for-once.
by nullacct on Nov 17, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I was about to flag you for the second sentence
But then I remembered it was sooooooo crazily hypothetical…
"I love it when any team called 'The Brew Crew' wins": Tad Kubler
"LOLOL I LOVE YUNI!!!!": ThroughBeingCool
Lazy link for that source. :)
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Nov 17, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
Important Roles
You know when the GM or coach brings up your name when stressing the “important role” you played on the team, that you are shitty at baseball. Also counts for defending your play to critics. Looking at you Golden Hands.
I endorse this statement
It plays an important role on this thread.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Nov 17, 2011 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
Chicago sports radio is having a blast with Sveum
They don’t know anything about him so they’ve been making up “Sveum facts” all day.
Also discussing this HS yearbook photo:

Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Nov 17, 2011 3:10 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
They should just be happy they didn't get the stoner to the left
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Nov 17, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
Do you have to be
at least 22 to finish HS over there?
"I love it when any team called 'The Brew Crew' wins": Tad Kubler
"LOLOL I LOVE YUNI!!!!": ThroughBeingCool
My favorite comment in response to this photo at bleedcubbieblue is...
… “I wonder if he ever hooked up with Eileen?”
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 17, 2011 6:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I read the Grantland piece all the way through
Because I figured it had to redeem itself based on the positive reactions of so many people.
Did that guy go to like 2 games all season? For being written by a “local” it was as condescending and generalizing as the ones we usually see from national writers.
I was not a fan…









































