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BCB Tracking Poll Shows Voters Favor Arbitration For Some, Miniature American Flags For Others

This week's poll was open from Monday at noon through Tuesday, and received 167 responses. Here are some of the notable results:

  • Voters were strongly in favor of offering arbitration to Prince Fielder (93%), and would also approve of decisions to offer it to Francisco Rodriguez (64%) and Takashi Saito (65%)*.
  • 78% of voters think the Brewers should not offer arbitration to Yuniesky Betancourt.
  • Among the Brewers' other free agents, voters strongly favored bringing back Jerry Hairston Jr (93%), supported bringing back LaTroy Hawkins (65%) and voted strongly against bringing back Mark Kotsay (74%) and Craig Counsell (86%).
  • 85% of voters are confident in Doug Melvin's ability to assemble a playoff team in 2012, but only 58% are confident in Ron Roenicke's ability to manage that team.

* - Saito has a clause in his contract preventing the Brewers from offering him arbitration, so this point is moot.

Side note: If you don't get the joke in the title, here's the context.

Follow the jump for the full results.

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Yuniesky Betancourt is projected to be a Type B free agent, meaning the Brewers will receive compensation if they offer him arbitration, he rejects it and signs a major league deal elsewhere. Should they offer him arbitration?

Response Votes %
Yes 22 13%
No, but they should attempt to re-sign him. 10 6%
No, and they should not attempt to re-sign him. 130 78%
Undecided 5 3%

Should the Brewers attempt to re-sign Craig Counsell for the 2012 season?

Response Votes %
Yes 12 7%
No 144 86%
Undecided 11 7%

Prince Fielder is projected to be a Type A free agent, meaning the Brewers will receive compensation if they offer him arbitration, he rejects it and signs a major league deal elsewhere. Should they offer him arbitration?

Response Votes %
Yes 155 93%
No, but they should attempt to re-sign him. 9 5%
No, and they should not attempt to re-sign him. 3 2%
Undecided 0 0%

Should the Brewers attempt to re-sign Jerry Hairston Jr for the 2012 season?

Response Votes %
Yes 156 93%
No 7 4%
Undecided 4 2%

Should the Brewers attempt to re-sign LaTroy Hawkins for the 2012 season?

Response Votes %
Yes 108 65%
No 34 20%
Undecided 25 15%

Should the Brewers attempt to re-sign Mark Kotsay for the 2012 season?

Response Votes %
Yes 21 13%
No 123 74%
Undecided 23 14%

Francisco Rodriguez is projected to be a Type A free agent, meaning the Brewers will receive compensation if they offer him arbitration, he rejects it and signs a major league deal elsewhere. Should they offer him arbitration?

Response Votes %
Yes 107 64%
No, but they should attempt to re-sign him. 10 6%
No, and they should not attempt to re-sign him. 44 26%
Undecided 6 4%

Takashi Saito is projected to be a Type A free agent, meaning the Brewers will receive compensation if they offer him arbitration, he rejects it and signs a major league deal elsewhere. Should they offer him arbitration?

Response Votes %
Yes 108 65%
No, but they should attempt to re-sign him. 34 20%
No, and they should not attempt to re-sign him. 19 11%
Undecided 6 4%

Are you confident in Doug Melvin's ability to make the moves necessary to get the Brewers back to the playoffs in 2012?

Response Votes %
Yes 142 85%
No 10 6%
Undecided 15 9%

Are you confident in Ron Roenicke's ability to guide the Brewers back to the playoffs in 2012 as manager?

Response Votes %
Yes 97 58%
No 38 23%
Undecided 32 19%

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Yuni is dumb enough to reject arbitration

He still thinks he’s really good, and he’s never been anything but a starting SS. They actually might be able to sneak a pick out of him.

Still don’t want them to offer arby out of principle.

by cwolf20 on Nov 2, 2011 12:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Calling Yuni dumb is pretty unfair

Based on his first MLB deal, I’d say his agent does a pretty good job handling contract matters.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Nov 2, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yuni was a really really good prospect coming up

Yuni is dumb or lazy. He may have an agent who can convince him that he’s not a good player.

We know for certain that he doesn’t listen to coaches when they tell him what he’s doing wrong.

by cwolf20 on Nov 2, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's not actually dumb or lazy.

He told me it was all just a “fakade”.

Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".

by Yar Nivek on Nov 2, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am starting to suffer from Yuni-sickness again.

It happens when people, including myself, discuss Betancourt. Now I’m going to stop so I don’t develop too many of the symptoms!

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Nov 2, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Possibly

but his agent probably isn’t… plus I’d rather not take the risk.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Nov 2, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

So 7% of people don't understand arbitration

That’s actually not bad, probably closer to 35% in OV.

Is Hairston a Type B FA this year?

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Nov 2, 2011 12:06 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

No

JHJ is not type B.

by cwolf20 on Nov 2, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its probably more likely that those 12 voters were from VEB or evil BCB or the like, don't you think?

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."

~RRR

by Charlie Marlow on Nov 2, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably

Or maybe they skimmed through the questions, saw a question about signing Prince and voted no without reading the full question.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Nov 2, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can someone please tell me...

the logic behind not offering prince fielder arbitration? Thought it would be 100%…

by evand on Nov 2, 2011 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe someone has a point I haven't seen

But I’d guess that we’ve identified 7% as the number of tracking poll voters who either don’t understand arbitration, came to troll, or both.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Nov 2, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm still going to give people a chance to say they accidentally marked the wrong thing!

1.)I know I accidentally marked Greinke when I wanted Gallardo for a specific MVBrewer spot last week, and posted a clarification on the board after I noticed a “voted for Greinke” in my profile history.

2.)There’s always the possibility people were kind of intoxicated and in sort of a bad mood. *

3.) Or maybe they did not have glasses.

4.) Or — maybe a small portable device or phone with a bad screen caused a person to have to press the answer several times before it got through. My friend has a lot of trouble calling and/or texting sometimes with his crummy phone, because the send button won’t work, at first.

  • = The item mentioning intoxication isn’t exactly okay with me, though. At OV, sometimes I thought I could smell beer through the screen. I wish this were a joke.
  • * = Otherwise, I guess people were just trying to be mean or trying not to be funny.

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Nov 2, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

So do you think it's possible someone could have been clumsy and pressed the wrong thing?

I’ve never owned a touch-screen phone, and had an iPod Touch but it was taken from my car. But I did not ever use it for social networking sites or sports blogs.

Hopefully at least some of the 12 voters just made a mistake!

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Nov 2, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

as an individual who suffers from having large fingers and a touch screen

yes it is possible. BCB on my phone is a little tricky and when you vote, it doesnt bring up the results, it simply sends you to the top of the screen (at least thats what happens on mine) so it is sometimes difficult to realize what you are doing. which is why i stopped using my phone to vote.

by evand on Nov 2, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know what else I thought of?

The site was kind of funky for a few days. It logged me out sometimes, and then there was a lag in processing posts.

I thought about this a minute ago after I looked at my comments; It appears I did not actually get my vote through! Argghhhhh

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Nov 2, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say the possibility of people being intoxicated

Probably exceeds the margin of error in this poll by a fair amount

by nullacct on Nov 2, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you're saying you've solved the mystery

and it was Dikembe behind the Cameron Garfield votes and the multiple identical BCB polls incident…

"I love it when any team called 'The Brew Crew' wins": Tad Kubler
"LOLOL I LOVE YUNI!!!!": ThroughBeingCool

by MrLeam on Nov 2, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would offer it to KROD

Simply because he’s made it clear that he wants to be a closer and Boras believes (and who know, he probably will) he can get a huge contract.

Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

by Grim Spandango on Nov 2, 2011 2:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't blame me

I voted for Kodos

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
BCB Fantasy Football League 1 Champ

by Hyatt on Nov 2, 2011 4:38 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm rec'ing you as well as Kyle for the original title.

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by Yar Nivek on Nov 3, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

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