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Lesser Brewers: Mark Kotsay

HOW DID YOU NOT CATCH THAT

Back when the Brewers first signed Mark Kotsay, there was a whole slew of comments basically saying it was a dumb move but that it wasn't that big of a deal. He was 35 years old and was coming off a season during which he hit just .239/.306/.376. In addition, he had been worth a grand total of -1.8 fWAR from 2005-2010. He was a veteran guy to bring into camp and, unless he lit the world on fire in spring training, could be cut with little consequence.

Well, Kotsay did hit .340/.386/.440 in spring and earned a bench spot to begin the year. He would be one of the first bats off the bench and an occasional spot starter in the corner outfield. With Corey Hart being injured to start the season, Milwaukee needed a player who could take his place for a few weeks. Kotsay maintained a decent to good on base percentage for much of the year, though his power stroke was virtually non-existent. In fact, Kotsay's OPS was above .700 for only two days in 2011. He hit .702 on May 18 and .703 on September 26 to close his regular season. Comparatively, he had 15 days where he was under a .600 OPS. In particular, there was a rough month and a half long stretch between June 13 and July 31 where he hit .206/.214/.324--and still started 14 games.

On May 11, one of the more frustrating lineup decisions we have seen happened for the first time. That day, Mark Kotsay started in center field. While Nyjer Morgan was injured at the time, Milwaukee had a more than capable center fielder in Carlos Gomez. Brandon Boggs was also on the roster at that point, as well. That may have been the moment where one started feeling uneasy about the role of Mark Kotsay. It didn't help that he then started two more games in a row in center field a week later. And then two more in a row four games after that. Overall, Kotsay played ten regular season games in Center Field, with nine starts. It felt like even more, but that was ten games too many.

Mark Kotsay hadn't played an inning in center field since 2009, when he was center field for just five games. Mark Kotsay has not had a positive UZR/150 in center field since 2004. Mark Kotsay has not even had a center field UZR/150 in single digit negative numbers since 2005. In fact, the only two positions Kotsay has had a positive UZR in during the last three years are left field and first base, probably the two easiest positions in the game.

It's probably not Kotsay's fault that he was playing a position he couldn't handle for significant innings in 2011. Ron Roenicke is the one who put him out there, despite having Carlos Gomez and Nyjer Morgan on the roster. Or having at least one of those two when the other was injured. Still, though, it's hard not to dislike Kotsay for being in such a significant spot. Especially when it seemed like every game saw him make an absolutely boneheaded play that Morgan or Gomez would have made easily.

Even more frustrating was his one post-season start in center field, against the Cardinals in game three of the NLCS. That game, Kotsay had a base-running gaffe in the first inning that helped prematurely end a Brewers rally. Then, even worse, there were at least two different defensive plays that either Gomez or Morgan likely could have made that Kotsay didn't in the bottom of the first. The Cardinals scored four runs that inning en route to winning 4-3. Kotsay did hit a home run in that game, and reached base in three of four plate appearances, but I still struggle not to blame Kotsay for the Brewers losing that game. And had the Brewers won that game, maybe they would have built on that momentum and won the series.

Here are two lovely videos from that game:

Mark Kotsay had just a one year deal with the Brewers and signed with the Padres in the offseason for more money than he probably deserves. So I guess at least we don't get to see him replace Prince Fielder at first base next year.

Poll
Mark Kotsay
Ugh.
56 votes
Ew.
12 votes
Gross.
17 votes
Eh, he was OK.
145 votes
Puke.
61 votes
Bad.
20 votes

311 votes | Poll has closed

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Why did I watch those videos?

Dammitall

"...just throw that pill over the plate and I'll make it happen." - Tony Plush

by thefreewheelin76 on Nov 28, 2011 2:05 PM CST reply actions  

More people voting for the OK option than I thought.

I never really developed a hatred towards Kotsay. Didn’t like him, but didn’t hate him either.

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by -JP- on Nov 28, 2011 2:10 PM CST reply actions  

You're right, Kotsay is a pretty good dude, and played reasonably well.

Its the idiot that put him in positions to fail in clutch moments we should hate.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."

~RRR

by Charlie Marlow on Nov 28, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

We're actually very nice people, apparently.

Despite what some of the comments about him might lead you to believe, haha. I personally went with “Ugh,” because that’s what I said whenever I saw him in the lineup. It’s the perfect balance of culpability for A) his poor play and B) being put in the position to play poorly.

by mpbMKE on Nov 28, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Me too.

That was my general reaction to him the entire season.

by cwolf20 on Nov 28, 2011 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I get so mad when I watch that shit again

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."

~RRR

by Charlie Marlow on Nov 28, 2011 2:20 PM CST reply actions  

Seriously.

I had pretty much cleansed my mind before writing this and looking all that up again.

by Noah Jarosh on Nov 28, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

No way, no how will I ever intentionally watch those plays.

I am still way to pissed even thinking about that idiotic crap.

Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.

by cooper82 on Nov 28, 2011 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Tempted to say ok but...

I just couldn’t. I’m sure he played a part in what the team was since he seemed like he was always well though of in the clubhouse but he definitely did not deserve to see the field as much as he did.

by aka Mich on Nov 28, 2011 3:10 PM CST reply actions  

True

But that’s not really any fault of his.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Nov 28, 2011 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Why not. He could have borrowed Narveson's scissors.

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by Yar Nivek on Nov 28, 2011 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

You're missing an important option from the poll.

“Blech…ewww…sheesh. I’ll take the crab juice.”

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by Yar Nivek on Nov 28, 2011 3:14 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I'm guessing this is how some people felt when hearing that Kotsay was making a start.

They wanted pizza, but RR shoved this at them:

They did get a choice of what to wash it down with:

However, regardless of the choice, they ended up here:

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by -JP- on Nov 28, 2011 6:20 PM CST up reply actions  

"Okay, I'll take a glove."

“No glove. Stick. Stick.”

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by Yar Nivek on Nov 28, 2011 7:14 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

The clips don't frustrate me

He was hustling in both cases. I refuse to blame a guy who gives a play everything he has – the outcome doesn’t matter if the effort is there. The outcome would have been different if we had Morgan/Gomez in those situations, but that’s not Kotsay’s fault any more than it was Ted Simmons’ fault that George Bamburger thought he could play 3B.

by nullacct on Nov 28, 2011 4:24 PM CST reply actions  

Play hard yes...

Used right hell no. No way should he sniff center… EVER.

by SgtClueLs on Nov 28, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Beer league softball, let him play center.

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by Yar Nivek on Nov 28, 2011 7:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe

My team has a pretty fast CF.

by cwolf20 on Nov 28, 2011 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not Kotsay's fault RRR misused him so much.

He played well enough for us.

Packers? Working on a dynasty.
Blackhawks? Taking care of business as usual.

Brewers, Badgers? THIS IS WHY YOU CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS.

by Tepo6688 on Nov 28, 2011 6:04 PM CST reply actions  

Kotsay was a bad baseball player this year, just as Yuni was

Don’t really care who’s at “fault” just want better production out of their roster spot next year.

Getting used in CF actually seemed to help whatever legacy Kotsay had with the Brewers, people will think of the playoff game instead of his subpar performance against RHP off the bench during the regular season.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Nov 29, 2011 12:03 AM CST reply actions  

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