Friday's Frosty Mug
Some things to read while waiting for the beer fairy.
Like many of you, I woke up this morning to a nice letter from Mark Attanasio thanking the fans for their support and trumpeting the organization's success on and off the field this season (FanShot). If you didn't get the letter, the JS has the full text. It was a pretty good way to start the day.
This week Ron Roenicke completed his first full year as Brewer manager. He certainly hasn't been without his share of controversy, but he also gets credit for a fair number of intangible gains. Nick Prill of The Brewers Bar has a look at what we've learned about Roenicke over the last 365 days. By having served one full season on the job, Roenicke is now the third longest tenured manager in the NL Central.
Meanwhile, the Brewers have another decision to make this winter. Cory Provus was officially announced as the Twins' new lead radio broadcaster yesterday, leaving an empty seat next to Bob Uecker in the booth at Miller Park (FanShot). Adam McCalvy says the Brewers are expecting to receive over 100 applications for the position, and are open to the possibility of hiring someone without major league experience. I may be the first to say it today but I shouldn't be: I'd love to have Chris Mehring in that spot.
That's about it for news today, so let's move on to the Prince Fielder notes:
- The JS has a poll asking readers where they expect Fielder to sign. The Cubs currently lead the way at 27%, but the Brewers, Rangers and Nationals are all above 10.
- Steve Dilbeck of the LA Times notes that the Dodgers' pending sale likely removes any slim chance they had of signing a big-ticket free agent.
Award season continued yesterday, and Ryan Braun got some bad news: Matt Kemp was chosen over him to win the NL Players Choice Award for Most Outstanding Player. The winner of that award has gone on to be NL MVP in three of the last five seasons. One of the exceptions was 2007, when Fielder won the award but Jimmy Rollins was MVP.
There are at least a few players on this list that could draw some attention from the Brewers: Adam H. Wong of Prospect Insider has a look at some bargain bin free agents. He wouldn't be my first choice, but I'd be surprised if the Brewers aren't one of the "half dozen" teams that have already contacted Rafael Furcal.
Thanks to these guys, the Brewers don't need to jump into the starting pitching market: Nicholas Zettel of Bernie's Crew ranked Shaun Marcum, Yovani Gallardo, Randy Wolf, Zack Greinke and Chris Narveson 17th, 26th, 27th, 40th and 47th out of 71 NL starting pitchers who accumulated 100 or more innings this season.
Here's the latest on Dale Sveum's offseason adventure: The Official Site has an extended conversation with Sveum about what one does in an eight hour interview with the Red Sox. Meanwhile, Curt Schilling had some nice things to say about Sveum as a former teammate and leader.
Even if Dale Sveum doesn't get selected as a manager this winter, he's likely to draw more interest than Craig Counsell. With that said, Counsell's agent told Jon Paul Morosi of Fox Sports he still intends to play in 2012.
LaTroy Hawkins had a rough day yesterday: He allowed two runs in an inning of work in MLB's 5-3 win over the Chinese Taipei national team. MLB.com has a full recap.
In the minors:
- Cody Scarpetta had another awful day in Arizona yesterday, retiring just one of the eight batters he faced and being saddled with seven earned runs in Peoria's 13-4 loss to Salt River. You can read about that in today's Winter League Notes.
- Scooter Gennett is currently batting .383 in AFL play, fourth best in the prospect league. Tom Haudricourt says the team is not considering moving him back to shortstop, though.
- Caleb Gindl has been out of the lineup lately for his Venezuelan team, and morineko discovered he's dealing with a strained quad.
- Dave Paul of The Sarnia Observer talked to 2011 Brevard County Manatee Nick Bucci about his experiences playing for the Canadian national team this winter. (h/t @Mass_Haas)
Our MVBrewer series continued yeserday, with Rickie Weeks winning the #8 spot and being profiled here. Corey Hart has more or less lapped the field in the vote for #9.
If you'd like more Brewer content today but you're sick of reading, my Wednesday appearance on The Home Stretch with Justin Hull has been archived and can be heard here. If you're done with that and want more, this week's View From Bernie's Chalet podcast focuses on awards, minor moves and free agent predictions.
Around baseball:
Astros: Claimed infielder Brian Bixler off waivers from the Nationals.
Blue Jays: Released outfielder Adam Loewen and removed pitcher Jesse Carlson from the 40 man roster. Both are now free agents.
Braves: Signed outfielder Jordan Parraz to a minor league deal with an invitation to spring training.
Phillies: Re-signed infielder Pete Orr to a minor league deal with an invitation to spring training.
Rays: First baseman Dan Johnson has declined an outright assignment to the minors and is now a free agent.
Beyond Prince Fielder, the player likely to have the second most interesting offseason is Jose Reyes. At this point the market for his services is still largely speculative, but one Mets official is telling reporters the team has "no shot" to bring him back.
Today in former Brewers:
- The Brewers' new Dominican facility is owned by 2008 Brewer Salomon Torres.
- The Outside Corner has Phil Garner (facing Bob Brenly) and Willie Randolph (facing Trey Hillman) in the first round of their Mustache Madness tournament. Bernie Brewer (facing Mr. Red Legs) is also a contender.
We talk a lot this time of year about free agent compensation, the draft picks awarded to teams who lose top-level free agents. If you're not entirely sure what that means, Jen Langosch of MLB.com has one of the better explanations I've seen.
This morning's edition of Today In Brewer History marks the 12th anniversary of Davey Lopes' hiring as Brewer manager in 1999. Chris Jaffe of The Hardball Times notes that it's also been 6000 days since the Brewers drafted Geoff Jenkins.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going back to poetry about frogs.
Drink up.
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So if you go to Brewers.com go to the videos and search highlights by players, Prince Fielder is no longer on the list of players... :(
Streak Breakers.com
Don't you need this with your text?

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Nov 4, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Mark's Letter
I can’t remember the letter from last year, but I found it strange that Mark didn’t really talk about the future much other than this not-so-inspiring quote from Field of Dreams, that baseball
“reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again.” There are 106 days until Spring Training. We all will be working hard in the hope that it “could be again” in 2012.
Found It
This is the last paragraph of last year’s letter:
As we look forward to next season, I am encouraged by our core of talented young players, many of whom have come up through our farm system. I am also inspired by and immensely grateful for the passion and enthusiasm you continue to demonstrate for the team. With that same commitment, I assure you that between now and Opening Day on March 31, 2011 in Cincinnati, I am going to focus on bringing the team back to where we all believe it should be. In the meantime, please accept my heartfelt thanks and appreciation for your staunch dedication to Brewers baseball.
Is it that strange?
2010 wasn’t good, so he would have to focus on the future. 2011 was amazing, so he focuses on that.
Basically trying to get interest going for next year. Last year the strategy would have been to talk about 2011, this year it is to remind everyone how amazing 2011 was.
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Nov 4, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Could have talked about new DR facility
why did it take the Brewers so long to get a facility there?
Missed chances to find and sign players and avoid the draft. Not sure how long that will last?
by Rob Deer For President on Nov 4, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Did they have a Venezuelan facility? Most teams have recently closed their facilities there.
This could be a replacement for that.
I believe so
but I’m not 100%
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Nov 4, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I remember hearing that previous DR facility
was way out of the way and not very effective. Maybe it was mentioned on FSN. Either way, lost opportunities maybe for small market Brewers, but better late than never.
by Rob Deer For President on Nov 4, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
No, they don't have a Venezuelan academy
They’ll bring any guys they get from there to the DR.
Mark A’s letter was in the JS – consider the audience, many non-Brewer or really casual fans read it, he’s trying to build on the excitement from last year into revenue for next year. I think picking it apart or wondering why he didn’t mention the DR Academy is over-analyzing it.
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Nov 4, 2011 11:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Not related to the letter, but:
I’m pretty sure Venezuela doesn’t just allow you to bring their citizens to the Dominican Republic.
by tcyoung on Nov 4, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed
A letter to all Brewer fans wouldn’t be the place to delve into so much detail, but the subject of future got me wondering why it took Brewers so long to get on board with DR. As a small market team, it seems or seemed like a necessary alternative to drafts and free agency.
Maybe it’s a coincidence, but it’s pretty awesome to have two Mexican born pitchers-aces for more than a third of the franchise’s existance. There’s something right going on there.
by Rob Deer For President on Nov 4, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was just expecting more about the future.
Last year’s letter was more of an apology and a promise for better. This year’s letter was more on bragging about the past. It’s not a big deal at all, I was just expecting a slightly different tone.
I know what you're saying
I can’t help but think ‘smoke and mirrors’ as the team tries to distract attention away from Fielder signing with the Cubs.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Nov 4, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I think all the fans pretty much understand the deal
Last year, Fielder was given a standing ovation at home and that certainly wasn’t only hardcore Brewers fans, it was the whole stadium. I think even the casual fanbase understands the Brewers can’t afford multiple big FA contracts and there won’t be any real backlash when he signs anywhere else.
He’ll still get cheers in Milwaukee next year even if he does end up on the Cubs. If he visits Miller Park on an opponent’s roster next year, is there any doubt he’ll get a standing ovation in his first plate appearance from the home crowd?
Depends on how he handles his departure.
But I agree, unless he really screws up he’ll almost certainly be well received.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
I will not cheer Prince if he winds up with the Cubs. I'll be irrationally pissed.
I got goons.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Nov 4, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I will be pissed at the game and the salary structure - or lack there of
If Prince leaves for the Cubs or Yankees or Red Sox, fine. He left for more money. I would do the same damn thing.
I will be disappointed and cry a little inside, but that won’t stop me from cheering for a guy who gave me 6 years of fun.
I hate Yuni.
by BrewCrewBrian on Nov 4, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Except he could have had a 5 year $100M contract and stayed in Milwaukee
I guess he could Cordero it and go for an extra $4.5M total.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Nov 4, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that would fall under Kyle's "he really screws up"
I hate Yuni.
by BrewCrewBrian on Nov 4, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess
at this point though, it really comes across as greedy. You want more than $20M/year? OK, see ya.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Nov 4, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
THIS
Every time someone turns down a deal like this, I just think back to what Braun said when he signed. Something along the lines of “what can’t I buy with $100 million?”
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
That poor soul
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
I won't cheer for him anywhere....
…except the first time he comes back to Miller, if I’m there. Then I’ll cheer my ass off. After that, he’s the enemy if he’s in the NL. I won’t boo him, but I won’t cheer him either.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Nov 4, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I've been working in Chicago, and have heard a lot of interviews with Theo and Jed.
They have said absolutely nothing that would lead you to believe that they plan on signing a big free-agent this offseason. If I was making a list of potential destinations for Fielder, the Cubs are pretty far down on that list.
I know they haven't said anything, but they would be foolish to sit out the market
There are no FA pitchers worth anything this year (there will be a few in 2013, I think) and no impact FA 1B in 2013. The Cubs don’t have a whole lot of trade bait to make a trade for an impact 1B. They have an opening at 1B right now. Sure, they don’t need Fielder or Pujols for 2012 – they’ll be irrelevant given their pitching staff – but they’ll need a solid 1B to make a run in 2013 and beyond.
They’re not saying anything, but they’d be stupid not to be in on the bidding. That doesn’t mean they’ll sign him to a terrible contract just to fill 1B, but if they can get a fair free agent contract for either, they’ll do it no matter what they say (or don’t say).
They want to build the team through the draft.
They’re looking to start over, and they’re not going to immediately go back to the old Cubs’ way of throwing out huge contracts. Theo has made a point about free agent contracts that you want to make sure that you’re paying for future production, not past production. If that’s the case, then why would they go out and sign a guy to a huge contract if they don’ t even care about the first year of that deal?
I suspect they’ll make an offer, if for no other reason than to run up the price, but I’d be VERY surprised to see them end up with Albert or Prince.
Epstein has tempered expectations, and made it clear that it’s going to be a long-term rebuilding process. I think they’ll be very active next offseason, and make a big push for Matt Kemp, as well as being very active on the trade market.
Prince is going to be a Ranger
at least I hope so because
1. then I get a shirsey of Fielder on a team I don’t despise
and
2. that offense would be insane and incredibly fun to watch.
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Nov 4, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
who needs pitching when you're trotting out a lineup with
Andrus, Kinsler, Young, Hamilton, Cruz, Beltre, Fielder, and Napoli? haha
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Nov 4, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
The look on Nolan Ryan's face during game 7
He was ready to strangle a truckload of kittens. I think he’s fully prepared to do whatever it takes to win, and making Michael Young the full-time DH would open 1B for Prince.

by nullacct on Nov 4, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
and it sounds like CJ Wilson wants to be a Ranger and may take a hometown discount
if they can keep Wilson and sign Fielder, then bazinga, what a team that’ll be.
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Nov 4, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Prune juice, Nolan.
Prune juice.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Nov 4, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Who's up to offer a prediction when each of the big three (Prince, Pujols and Reyes) will sign?
Wondering who will be first to sign.
My prediction:
Prince: mid December
Reyes: late December
Pujols: early January
by kotsaythebuzzkill on Nov 4, 2011 1:32 PM CDT reply actions
All three sign on the same day, next Friday
With Tampa Bay, doubling their payroll, making them instant WS favorites and blowing backtocali’s mind.
by nullacct on Nov 4, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
They also need to go out and get Cameron Maybin, though
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Nov 4, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, yes, that ever elusive 1792-hit season.
2012 WILL be good to Craig.
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