BCB Tracking Poll Voters Seem To Agree On Need To Create Payroll Space, Disagree On How

by Kyle Lobner on Nov 9, 2011 4:00 PM CST in Tracking Poll

This week's poll was open from Monday afternoon through Tuesday, and received 180 responses. Here are some notable results:

A near majority (49%) of voters think the Brewers should non-tender or trade players this offseason to free up payroll space. 40% think they should not.
Kameron Loe (44%), Casey McGehee (39%) and Manny Parra (38%) were the most popular choices to be non-tendered, but none received a majority of votes.
Meanwhile, voters strongly opposed non-tendering Shaun Marcum (7%), Nyjer Morgan (10%) and Carlos Gomez (13%).

Follow the jump for the full results.

Assuming the Brewers' payroll budget remains around $90 million, they currently have slightly more than $10 million to spend to fill first base, shortstop, two bench spots and three bullpen vacancies. How should they proceed?

Response	Votes	%
They should do the best they can with the cash they have available.	72	40%
They should non-tender and/or trade players to free up some payroll space.	88	49%
Undecided	20	11%

MLB Trade Rumors is projecting Carlos Gomez will receive $1.8 million in arbitration for 2012. Should the Brewers non tender him?

Response	Votes	%
Yes	23	13%
No, and they should keep him.	122	68%
No, but they should attempt to trade him.	29	16%
Undecided	6	3%

MLB Trade Rumors is projecting George Kottaras will receive $800,000 in arbitration for 2012. Should the Brewers non-tender him?

Response	Votes	%
Yes	46	26%
No, and they should keep him.	84	47%
No, but they should attempt to trade him.	39	22%
Undecided	11	6%

MLB Trade Rumors is projecting Kameron Loe will receive $2.8 million in arbitration for 2012. Should the Brewers non-tender him?

Response	Votes	%
Yes	79	44%
No, and they should keep him.	43	24%
No, but they should attempt to trade him.	40	22%
Undecided	18	10%

MLB Trade Rumors is projecting Shaun Marcum will receive $6.8 million in arbitration for 2012. Should the Brewers non-tender him?

Response	Votes	%
Yes	12	7%
No, and they should keep him.	151	84%
No, but they should attempt to trade him.	14	8%
Undecided	3	2%

MLB Trade Rumors is projecting Casey McGehee will receive $3.1 million in arbitration for 2012. Should the Brewers non-tender him?

Response	Votes	%
Yes	71	39%
No, and they should keep him.	38	21%
No, but they should attempt to trade him.	59	33%
Undecided	12	7%

MLB Trade Rumors is projecting Nyjer Morgan will receive $1.9 million in arbitration for 2012. Should the Brewers non-tender him?

Response	Votes	%
Yes	18	10%
No, and they should keep him.	145	81%
No, but they should attempt to trade him.	15	8%
Undecided	2	1%

MLB Trade Rumors is projecting Manny Parra will receive $1.2 million in arbitration for 2012. Should the Brewers non-tender him?

Response	Votes	%
Yes	69	38%
No, and they should keep him.	60	33%
No, but they should attempt to trade him.	35	19%
Undecided	16	9%

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I'm reading the results slightly differently

I see them as 57% don’t want Parra on the team next year, 72% don’t want McGehee on the team, and 66% on loe.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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by Hyatt on Nov 9, 2011 4:20 PM CST reply actions

I suppose.

I’m curious what 19% of people think they can get in exchange for Parra. Probably a good chance many of them have unrealistic expectations.

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by Kyle Lobner on Nov 9, 2011 4:26 PM CST up reply actions

As someone who voted for Parra being traded...

I only agree think he should be traded if the Brewers get a good deal for him, but most likely they won’t so I think that he should be on theh team next year.

by Brewer 1 Fan on Nov 9, 2011 4:35 PM CST up reply actions

I'd rather have Capuano.

by nullacct on Nov 9, 2011 4:36 PM CST up reply actions

With all due respect

I can’t imagine any team willing to give the Brewers a good deal on an old LHP who can’t start, but has had some good success in the bullpen coming off of an entire year lost to injury.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."

~RRR

by Charlie Marlow on Nov 9, 2011 5:06 PM CST up reply actions

29 isn't old for a LHP reliever.

Just ask Arthur Rhodes or any of the other left handed walking dead that still pitch. Staying healthy is a big if, but I think he’ll still be a quality bullpen arm. Trade value? You’re probably right, there isn’t much at this point.

by mpbMKE on Nov 9, 2011 5:22 PM CST up reply actions

Old was sort of a relative term

at 29, a lot of times, a guy has already peaked. So teams would need to be trying to project out production based on what he’s already done, rather than talk about ‘upside’.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."

~RRR

by Charlie Marlow on Nov 9, 2011 5:51 PM CST up reply actions

I don't understand the Loe votes.

His pitching improved in every category, he’s still pretty cheap, and he’s a workhorse. Manny Parra on the other hand should have been traded in 2008.

by nullacct on Nov 9, 2011 4:30 PM CST reply actions

I was thinking the same thing

Minus the Parra thing.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."

~RRR

by Charlie Marlow on Nov 9, 2011 5:06 PM CST up reply actions

Think I forgot to vote

Not really against having Loe on the team, but he’s basically a ROOGY. I like having one on my team, but at some point when they start to get expensive, it might be better to spend money elsewhere.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Nov 9, 2011 5:08 PM CST up reply actions

Based on just his 2011 results?

I mean he didn’t have a very drastic platoon split in 2010.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."

~RRR

by Charlie Marlow on Nov 9, 2011 6:03 PM CST up reply actions

Based on his career splits, the type of pitches he throws

And the my admittedly biased view of watching him.

After the failed “8th inning guy” experiment, RRR seemed to do a good job of moving him around and trying to get him in situations where he didn’t face good lefties or lefties in high leverage.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Nov 9, 2011 7:13 PM CST up reply actions

I don't think it's fair to put much faith into Loe's career splits.

They’re largely dominated by his time as a starter.

With that said, almost all of his struggles in 2011 seemed to come against lefties.

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by Kyle Lobner on Nov 9, 2011 7:18 PM CST up reply actions

OK

as Kyle notes his career splits include a majority of IP as a starter, so I don’t think that’s a great idea. As I said, last year he didn’t have a large platoon split.

That all being said, unless you’re the closer, I’d assume any RHP will be removed if facing a power LHB in favor of a LHP.

I wouldn’t label him as a ROOGY based on 1 year of data, though. He’s not Tim Dillard.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."

~RRR

by Charlie Marlow on Nov 9, 2011 7:34 PM CST up reply actions

ROOGY was probably the wrong word

In 2005 Loe split between starting/relieving and had a .604/.792 L/R OPS split. 2008 he had 30 IP as a reliever with a .505/1.095 OPS split.

Agree not to put too much into the stats, but you also shouldn’t discount them.

Guess my overall point was that I’m fine having Loe, but they might be able to do better with his money. If they can’t do better, that’s fine.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Nov 9, 2011 7:50 PM CST up reply actions

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