Ryan Braun And The Five Stages Of Grief: Denial
by Kyle Lobner on Dec 12, 2011 2:00 PM CST
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Like many of you, I've spent most of the last 48 hours trying to come to terms with what's happening with Ryan Braun. While we still don't know the specifics and it's possible we never will know everything we want to know, we can say pretty unequivocally that Braun's reputation and the Brewer organization have taken what might be the most significant publicity hit in franchise history.
As long as we're going through all of this, I guess it makes sense for us to go through all of it together. So this week, as a community, we'll take a look at the stages of grief over our loss as a fanbase.
I was away from home when I heard the news for the first time on Saturday, and in the grand scheme that's probably what kept me from breaking something. Being out for the day gave me several hours to process the news mentally before I got home. By the time I got back I didn't really want to think about it anymore: I took a few hours to have a drink on the couch and watch the Badger game I had DVR'd earlier in the day. It was good to spend a few hours in a place where I could pretend all of this hadn't happened yet.
So that's where we're at today. In this thread, I don't want to talk about Ryan Braun. Talk about whatever other Brewer-related things you'd like, but I think we could all use a break from the news and an opportunity to think about something else for a while.
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Good to see you around lately.
I got goons.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Dec 12, 2011 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
Brewers Sign A-Ram
Good news for a change. While I am a fan of Casey McGehee, I understand the need to not only add power to the line-up, but a consistent bat as well. Today we find out of he gets tendered a contract or not, so we’ll see what the plan is there. We also get our #4 hitter with Fielder most assuredly gone now.
"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10
Made my day.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
by Rubie Q on Dec 12, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
It will be unusual watching this sight at 3rd base each day.
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by -JP- on Dec 12, 2011 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
It's going to be weird
to pull for A-Ram…
In full disclosure, around the house, we referred to him as Gay-Ram. :) That will be changing if his numbers stay where they’ve been.
And if the reports from Bernie’s Crew about Carlos Pena come to fruition, there’s going to be a lot of “choking” things down. :)
"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10
I will have a really hard time rooting for him. I'm way to used to him being a damn Cub.
I have no concept.
Think of it this way:
He took less money from us just so he wouldn’t have to be a Cub anymore.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 12, 2011 8:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He was my 2nd-least favorite Cub for a long time.
Somehow, I’m okay with him wearing our uni though.
Packers: Working on a dynasty.
Blackhawks: Taking care of business as usual.
Badgers:Back-to-back B1G Champions!
Brewers: Move along, nothin' to see here.
what happens to McGehee
it was rumored texas was interested in him to trade to tampa… that means they’d have to get him from the brewers first. wonder what casey would fetch on the trade market…
even if it's a middle reliever or AA depth, it would be worth it.
after the season he had, and outright losing his job to a FA, change of scenery would be best. i’m guessing they only tender him if they have something somewhat solid lined up in a trade…
You mean Rangers are interested in McGehee because they might be trading away Moreland to the Rays
At first I thought you meant the Rangers were interested in trading for McGehee just to trade him to the Rays… which confused me since I figured if the Rays were interested in McGehee, they’d just contact the Brewers directly.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
As pointed out to me in the Ramirez thread
If the Rangers are the only team interested, they can just wait until he’s non-tendered and offer him $100k more than the Brewers and a chance to start at 3B. No reason to trade even a sack of potatoes for McGehee.
Denial...
With all of the money that is going to be spent this offseason, it’s going to be great watching the Brewers win over 100 games and the World Series! It’s all coming together, nothing can go wrong!
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You're denying my denial?
Can you do that?
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i'm not sure,
but it discussing it does keep everyone off the other topic that is not to be mentioned in this blog post…
Good idea
I’ve always been a fan of geography discussions
by sicklebeat on Dec 12, 2011 2:41 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
What would the discussion be about?
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Denial of geography?
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THE NILE. RIVER. IT SOUNDS LIKE DENIAL. IT'S A REALLY OLD JOKE.
IT’S WHAT IS PICTURED IN SICKLEBEAT’S IMAGE
by Noah Jarosh on Dec 12, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Oh
Ok.
(By the way, while trying to search for a suitable image to illustrate my stupidity, I found this image that I will use regularly from now on. I did not post the actual image because it’s not usuable yet.)
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Your lack of a sense of humor has become one of my favorite aspects of this site.
by tcyoung on Dec 12, 2011 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"Lack of a sense of humor" was the wrong term. Didn't mean it like that.
by tcyoung on Dec 12, 2011 5:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Haha
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 12, 2011 6:59 PM CST up reply actions
Internet hugs!
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 12, 2011 7:00 PM CST up reply actions
Well, if we want something positive to look at...
Remember how a month ago all we were asking for was a new left side of the infield?
Umm…we got it.
by kotsaythebuzzkill on Dec 12, 2011 3:39 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I enjoyed lots of fantastic beer Saturday night.
Started with a couple of Lakefront’s Holiday Spice and then moved onto other random stuff we had in the house.
Please note: I do not recommend drinking more than 2 of the holiday spice. 11% is a lot of alcohol.
I hate Yuni.
Pretty forward with coriander
Also nutmeg, cinnamon, and maybe a couple more I couldn’t identify. And it’s a lager, so it’s a little different profile than a spiced ale or amber.
Sounds delicious
I’m going to have to pick some up.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 12, 2011 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
I know quite a bit about Brewers denial
I’m still trying to deny that Seth McClung hasn’t been on the ballclub for..oh man it’s been TWO YEARS now… ;_;
by morineko on Dec 12, 2011 3:53 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
What are the chances of McGehee getting non-tendered tonight?
Also none of Loe,Parra and Kottaras can be 100% confident of getting offer a cotract but it would be a bit of a surprised if any of them are let go.
I could be reading too much into this, of course
but it seems more than a little coincidental that Ramirez agreed to this deal on the same date as the deadline to tender contracts to arbitration-eligible players.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
I agree
I think there is a decent chance the Brewers told Ramirez that there was a deadline on the offer so that they did not end up bringing back McGehee and then sign Ramirez.
(It may explain why the Brewers did not overpay to get him)
The other 3 I mentioned are all probably looking at $1-2million for next year and I wonder if the payroll will stretch to having all 3 around. I think that one of them maybe gone but I am not sure which one.
By the way
TH tweeted that the Brewers won’t lose a draft pick since Ramirez was a Type B free agent.
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by -JP- on Dec 12, 2011 4:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually
#Brewers catcher George Kottaras has signed a one-year deal, avoding salary arbitration.
In related news, I hate new Twitter.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 12, 2011 7:03 PM CST up reply actions
And Jeffrey Hammonds.
And Franklin Stubbs.
And Sean Berry.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
I made a comment once upon a time that was shat on
Regarding the Suppan contract, saying that at least it showed Milwaukee was willing to go out and make deals and potentially sign free agents, that there was contract money here to be had. Prior to that I can’t remember anyone of any significance coming in on an expensive long-term contract. It turned out to be a crappy deal for us, but it told the league that Milwaukee was willing to make deals for free agents.
Mark Attanasio is the best.
by nullacct on Dec 13, 2011 8:19 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
hmm
RT @BerniesCrew A source told me the #Brewers are determining if they have the money to pursue 1B Carlos Pena. Regarding Carlos Pena, that’s not deemed likely at this point. Completely depends on Pena’s market. #Brewers
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Dec 12, 2011 4:24 PM CST reply actions
The list of Chicago Cubs putting up at least 2.5 fWAR last season
Aramis Ramirez
Starlin Castro
Carlos Pena
Presenting, your 2011 Chicago Cubs!
Did the Cubs sign a 3B? They don’t have a great option in house which means they’re probably in the market for McGehee along with the Rangers if he’s non-tenured tonight.
There’s an outside chance the Brewers and Cubs swap corners this offeseason. That would be really strange.
At this point Gamel really deserves a shot I agree but
Does he really? I know we’ve passed over him before but he has horrible attitude problems and he apparently doesn’t prepare himself like he should with workouts and the norm, so if we pass him over again there is a reason at least.
(Verb) you cardinals.
by Taterwithbacon on Dec 12, 2011 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
I completely agree.
If Gamel deserved a shot he would have gotten one by now. He has all the talent in the world, so what is stopping him? Its probably that, and I know small sample size, but everytime the brewers gave him at bats in the bigs he did nothing to make them say, yes, this is our man.
Well, 1st, left, and right have been pretty much blocked up until now...
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
And if Gamel could play third...
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Dec 12, 2011 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
They've decided he's not a third basemen
Short hasn’t been blocked either, but that’s not relevant to getting him a chance.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Casey McGehee would have disagreed with you.
Until today. But that doesn’t change the fact that he put up two very good years there.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 12, 2011 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
can we really say those things for a fact?
If he really had those problems, would we have kept him around? Why not trade him and get value when he was younger and still an up-and-coming top prospect?
Not sure how much I buy the Don Money rant. I think it’s telling that he was removed as Nashville manager shortly after the outburst. That’s speculation on my part, though.
by Nicole Haase on Dec 12, 2011 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
No Pena
I like the Ramirez signing but can this organization please give Gamel a chance instead of signing a retread like Pena. Gamel will have a better season that Pena in my opinion and he will be cheap which is what this organization needs.
We need to give young players an opportunity. I will be very disappointed if we brush Gamel aside for Pena when Gamel has more upside. Melvin needs to fire Roenicke because the guy refuses to give young players a chance which is all wrong for our market.
by bklynbrewcrew on Dec 12, 2011 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
Meh.
I think the team knows more about their internal players than anybody else, so I believe that if they’re not giving Gamel a chance it’s because they don’t feel he’s earning it.
by mpbMKE on Dec 12, 2011 5:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You have no concept
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 12, 2011 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
:-(
RT @JonHeymanCBS: hearing saito has agreed to terms with #dbacks. another good pickup for them.
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Dec 12, 2011 4:44 PM CST reply actions
At least he's playing for a likable team so I can root for him there
Just glad it’s not the crads or the dodgers or something. Wish him luck, saw it coming that we wouldn’t get him.
(Verb) you cardinals.
by Taterwithbacon on Dec 12, 2011 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
I despise the DBacks.
That stupid snake bite thing they did bugged the bejeezus out of me. And the parts of StL I hated most have been shuffled out of town.
Yeah that was almost as bad as Beast Mode.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
AZ's pitching staff is going to be outstanding, both starting and bullpen depth.
And, with Bauer/Skaggs entering the fold sooner than later to join Kennedy/Hudson/Cahill. And, with regards to the bullpen, they just turned a very nice talented group into a Not-Birthday special.
Good luck, Takashi, my friend!
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Dec 12, 2011 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
I'm kinda with you there
I fell in love with that scraggly bunch in the NLDS, they played their hearts out, and that’s what I like to see.
(Verb) you cardinals.
by Taterwithbacon on Dec 12, 2011 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
Heyman went on
to applaud their pitching coach for having such great instincts. As though Saito was a diamond in the rough instead of a proven guy who would be considered aging.
by Nicole Haase on Dec 12, 2011 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
I want to say, I think there is a mistake; Saito is the Decider of Birthday.
*And I agree about the really inaccurate Diamond-in-the rough labeling. Where was he the past couple of years? Saito is a useful piece, and consistent when healthy.
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Dec 12, 2011 5:45 PM CST up reply actions
May they enjoy the Saito hugs... I miss them already ;(
Grillax people
by jmeks23 on Dec 12, 2011 5:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice, thanks D'Backs
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 12, 2011 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
I just realized that this is 2013 roster, too.
If AGon plays well enough to vest his option for next year, the Brewers will have 7 of the 8 position players under team control through 2013. If they go with Gamel and McGehee at 1B, it’ll be all 8 position players. If they can empty the couch cushions and find the money to extend Marcum or Greinke, then they have practically their entire 2012 team signed through 2013.
Yeah, but Gallardo + full season of Peralta!
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
For those of you panicing about the Greinke agent switch
He actually left his previous agent in the spring.
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Dear new agent, please get me traded.
Ok, thanks, bye.
I really don't get this
You have no basis for this, you can’t back it up, and it doesn’t add anything to the conversation.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 12, 2011 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
And also:
One of the hot rumors going around the internet today is that Brewers right-hander Zack Greinke has left his agent and is looking for another to demand a trade.
Well, it is true that Greinke left his agency, Creative Artists Agency, but it was back in the spring after he had been traded to the Brewers.
ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick notes that you shouldn’t read anything into switching agents, because they do it often at times, and I agree. Because Greinke asked for a trade from Kansas City the last time he did it, some people assume he is doing that again.
A more logical explanation is that he’ll be a free agent after the 2012 season and might want to change to one of the agents, such as Scott Boras, who is known for getting big deals on the market.
Linky
So, let’s all back away from the ledge, and realize this actually happened before the 2011 season started.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 12, 2011 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
I think placidity was referring to the previous agent.
He fired the first agent, hired the second to get him traded, then said “Dear new agent, please get me traded. Ok, thanks, bye.” to the second agent, and is now looking for the third.
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Yea.
Sorry for the confusion. That was about CAA, who he hired shortly before he was traded and fired apparently shortly after being traded. Do they even get paid in that case?
So why not post that
before the 2011 season even starts? People are getting all worked up because he left CAA…it happened before the 2011 season. If that’s the “this is definitive proof that Greinke will ask for a trade” I don’t buy it.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 12, 2011 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
Charlie does this some times
Makes it seem like he’s actually talking to, and angry at, you.
He was talking about the blogger and reporters who ran with this ludicrous story.
by cwolf20 on Dec 13, 2011 9:28 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Here's one contract decision off the table
<blockquote#Brewers catcher George Kottaras has signed a one-year deal, avoding salary arbitration.
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And that's a quote fail.
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by -JP- on Dec 12, 2011 5:37 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
But, then a very nice recovery.
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Dec 12, 2011 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
I'd just like to remind everyone that
Alex Gonzalez is, in fact, not Yuniesky Betancourt.
Also:
Yuniesky Betancourt will not be a 2012 Brewer.
by GoldenFrank on Dec 12, 2011 5:39 PM CST reply actions 12 recs
My auto-rec machine is broken.
Should have detected: “Yuni” and “not a Brewer”
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Dec 12, 2011 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
I hate to be Buzz Killington here
…but we can’t say that for sure until the 2012 season is over.
We can say that with some certainty now, and more once the season starts, but not with complete certainty until the season is over.
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I still think they sign him to a minor league deal.
I can’t believe anyone will offer him a major league deal and the Brewers have every reason to sign him to a minor league deal. I mean, I don’t want him there, but if you’re going to have an utterly worthless SS, you may as well have an utterly worthless SS taht the players seem to like.
Unless they don’t actually like him and then you spread “Yuni-away” Betancourt Repellant all over Maryvale and Milwaukee.
Ahhhhhhhhh
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
I think we're still in the denial stage around here....
… though some of us skipped ahead to anger, then jumped back to denial.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 12, 2011 7:13 PM CST reply actions
I'm a bear!
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 12, 2011 7:25 PM CST up reply actions
He has something to say about that.
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by -JP- on Dec 12, 2011 7:29 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Picking new profile pictures is hard.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 12, 2011 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
Pfft.
Have you seen our comments today? Most of us are almost with delirious with excitement over the addition of a 33-year-old third baseman.
The Irrational Exuberance train pauses for no man. Or drug test.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
by Rubie Q on Dec 12, 2011 7:37 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Dude, that's part of the denial...
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 12, 2011 7:41 PM CST up reply actions
Guess who else was a 33-year old ex-3rd baseman for the Cubs?
Ron Santo, Hall of Famer. Just sayin’.
Mark Attanasio is the best.
brewers trade casey to the pirates
Every man must believe in something, I believe I'll have another drink.
Yeah I just saw that
who the hell is Jose Veras.
(Verb) you cardinals.
by Taterwithbacon on Dec 12, 2011 7:53 PM CST up reply actions
He's tall.
So much for the 1B platoon idea.
Really wish they hadn’t dealt him in the division so I could root for the guy unabashedly.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 12, 2011 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
I still will
But I agree. Woulda been nicer if he had gone somewhere else. Will he get the chance to start in Pittsburgh? Do they have a first/third baseman?
(Verb) you cardinals.
by Taterwithbacon on Dec 12, 2011 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
I keep telling you people that the Brewers are going to re-sign Prince.
Nobody listens.
I got goons.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Dec 12, 2011 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
I listen, I just don't believe.
And they just traded one of his best friends on the team to the flippin’ Pirates.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 12, 2011 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
Wait, which member of the Cubs got traded to the Pirates?
Oh, you mean a friend on Fielder’s old team in Milwaukee. >_<
Josh Prince?
He did have a good season in Brevard, so I believe you.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Rooting for Pirates unabashedly is alright, because at the end of the day it's still the Pirates
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
Cool.
Casey’s a good dude but Gamel really needs to be giving the first base gig from the get go.
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Dec 12, 2011 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
*given* the first base gig
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Dec 12, 2011 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
My completely uninformed opinion...
… I like that trade for the Pirates. A lot.
Veras made 550k last year and is arbitration eligible.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 12, 2011 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
Going to get rid of the other two in the sidebar, sorry guys
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
I am getting an advertisement For Braun Shavers underneath the main post
How did they know i’ve been going scruffy all week?
They're taunting you. "Braun" shavers.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 12, 2011 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
PNC has a deep left field
Casey won’t get any cheap homers that’s for sure
by Big10freak on Dec 12, 2011 8:08 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Awesome that you provided those links...
Cheered me up instantly.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Dec 13, 2011 1:49 AM CST up reply actions
I wasn't completely cheered up
til I remembered ‘F!@$ YEAH!’
you had frequent massages?
with additional services?
by PagsBrewCrew on Dec 13, 2011 7:18 PM CST up reply actions
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