Brewers win rights to negotiate with OF Norichika Aoki?
Awesome!
Edit, brief scouting report (per Patrick Newman on Fangraphs):
Norichika Aoki (OF, Yakult Swallows, 28) – In a post-Ichiro, post-Matsui NPB, Aoki reigns as the consensus top hitter. I’d actually go so far as to say that he"s the best pure hitter Japan has produced since Ichiro. Aoki is a line drive hitter with occasional power who uses the whole field. He’s also a disciplined batter, walking about as often as he strikes out, which is rare in Japan. Aoki is short and somewhat stocky at 5’7.5, 182 lbs, but is a good runner with tremendous range in the outfield. The only knock on his game is his rather weak throwing arm, which may limit him to left field at the MLB level. For video, I dug up some batting and fielding highlights and a breakdown of his swing on YouTube.
Highlights (from above scouting report)
Winning bid had previously been reported as $2.5 million.
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This is interesting and weird
I want to get a good source on this before we put it on the front page. How did you see this, from Passan?
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
I see it on Rotoworld, same source.
Do we have any idea what kind of contract he’d be looking at?
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
No, it's from a Japanese reporter on Twitter
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
Yeah, I see that, just figured you didn't follow a Japanese reporter on Twitter.
Seems like everybody’s treating it as fact. Wow is this weird. $2.5 million just to negotiate? I like the idea of getting him, but I didn’t think it would be in the budget.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
I follow everyone on Twitter (except Buster Olney)
I don’t think he should cost much, seems like he’s more of a 4th-OF-with-upside. At this point, whatever Mark A. is willing to spend is fine with me!
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
Yeah, absolutely
Just weird, because it seems like the only spot he would fit is at left for the first 50 if Braun’s out. If there’s anything the Brewer minor league system has a surplus of, it’s short lefty outfielders who can hit a bit but can’t play center. Is he the fifth outfielder if everybody’s back? Maybe they’re looking to deal Morgan or Gomez.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
He is apparently a very good defensive outfielder, with a lot of range.
A weak arm might be the lone reason he couldn’t play CF or RF. If it’s even close to passable, I’m guessing he would play everywhere in the OF.
Could they be expecting Morgan to regress a bit?
"I'm here to talk about the economy today -- about the need to get four quarters of strong, consistent performance. That wasn't another Jay Cutler joke, I swear. It could be, but it's not."
lol
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 17, 2011 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
Obviously a mistranslation
the Japanese words for Brewers and Yankees are almost the same
by mladwig0 on Dec 18, 2011 2:33 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Also,
wiki (take it for what it’s worth) says he changes his stance whenever he slumps. So we could be looking at a guy who swings like Ichiro and changes his stances like Counsell. Could be interesting…
"I'm here to talk about the economy today -- about the need to get four quarters of strong, consistent performance. That wasn't another Jay Cutler joke, I swear. It could be, but it's not."
Fresh off our recurring argument about the organization's failure to scout Japan, here's a top bid on a player from Japan.
Weird.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
"Why would we bid on someone we've never seen?"
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
"Why would we bid 50m on someone we've never seen?"
A lot easier to take a flyer with 2.5m.
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Dec 17, 2011 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
(I don't think Nakajima's posting fee was $50 million)
I just think it’s funny that Melvin basically lies about everything ever.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
Oh, I guess I was confusing Nakajima and Darvish...I thought Nakajima was a huge bid too.
But Nakajima’s looks like it was more like $2m. Weird.
Moral of the story: don’t ever listen to Doug.
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Dec 17, 2011 9:14 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe the Yankees are looking for a sign and trade with Nakajima.
To be filed in the realm of things that will never happen, send over Gomez.
"We’re gonna gather our nuts, and find out what the squirrels… we’ll be right back." - Brian Anderson
Yanks have said they aren’t, but a good offer would get them to do it. The overwhelming belief is the Yankees won the bidding on Nakajima by accident.
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by Charlie Marlow on Dec 17, 2011 9:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Breaking news, Rickie Weeks retires to spend more time with his pet lizard
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
by Jordan M on Dec 18, 2011 12:18 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Breaking: Brewers sign Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
Will take over at first base.
by Noah Jarosh on Dec 18, 2011 12:40 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I saw this and was all "bzuh"
If anything this tells you that there are no leaks in the Brewers front office, heh
It really came out of left field.
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by Rendezvous on Dec 17, 2011 7:33 PM CST up reply actions 8 recs
I think Aoki is pronounced Ow-key based on youtube videos and google translate's talking person.
But I have no idea how to pronounce Norichika. It sounds nothing like Nore-ee-cheek-ah though.
I think maybe it’s “No-rich-ka Ow-ki”? link
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
Google translate, by the way, translates his Japanese name as "Aoki declared parent" in English.
So, good news for him, I guess. He going to be a father!
by Noah Jarosh on Dec 17, 2011 7:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Texted someone who had studied Japanese (and I think has gone to Japan) and they said it would be pronounced Know-ree-chee-kah.
So Know-ree-chee-kah Ow-Key.
I guess there is an A sound in Aoki.
eh-oh-key. But when you say it fast, it sounds different than if you really emphasized.
I don't speak japanese
But I’m a big fan of the Japanese mixed martial arts scene and so am rather with Japanese names. There is a famous fighter named Shinya Aoki, so I know that one an you are pronouncing Aoki right. There is the slightest A sound but for practical use ow-key is correct. I don’t recognize the first name buy I think no-ri-chee-ka is the right way to pronounce it.
by Rabbit915 on Dec 17, 2011 10:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Brewers going international!
If this is true, then this is a good sign that the Brewers FO is willing to sign international players. Hopefully it’ll turn into a trend.
Go ahead, make my day.
Could also be a de fact backup-1B, since if Gamel struggles they can move Hart to 1B.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
So I guess we can all agree the past 10 days haven't been boring...
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 17, 2011 8:06 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
We have another LH bat!
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Dec 17, 2011 8:58 PM CST reply actions
We get to have our own ICHIRO!
If the comparison is accurate: ‘best hitter out of Japan since Ichiro,’ it’s pretty hard to feel bad about this. In fact I am pretty excited. I love to watch Ichrio hit. More small ball on the team.
Small ball sucks.
Dingers forever.
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Dec 17, 2011 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
"Best hitter out of South Carolina since Gorman"
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by SRB on Dec 17, 2011 9:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Salary relief
Looking 5-6 years down the road, Harper’s going to be expensive. In the same time-frame, Go-Go still won’t be able to hit himself out a wet paper bag. The Nationals are thinking long-term.
What goes on the back of his jersey? Norichika or Aoki?
Fighter of the Nightman. Champion of the sun. Master of karate & friendship for everyone.
Ichiro is the only Japanese player I can think of that didn't have his second name on the jersey.
I’m not extremely well-versed on this, though.
Yeah, his was a special circumstance
Since Suzuki is such a common name in Japan, he always went with his far less common first name. And then when he came over here, he stuck with it. Completely different situation from the Chinese, who always list surname first (e.g. Yao).
Where does the surname go?
Maybe I misunderstood your comment, but surnames are written first in Japan (and Korea) as well.
In Japan, Aoki’s surname is written before his given name. In other words, his name is written (and announced over the stadium PA) as Aoki Norichika.
And just to confirm, his surname is pronounced Ah-Oh-Key. Patrick Newman knows what he’s talking about.
And all three syllables are pronounced with equal weight (ie. no syllable is stressed more than the others) if anyone’s truly interested in being able to correct the ESPN guy’s pronunciation.
Assuming that Milwaukee signs him, of course.
Good news.
I like how Aoki looks better. Hopefully he gets a single digit number too.
I say this for future t-shirt buying, in case he turns out to be halfway decent.
Fighter of the Nightman. Champion of the sun. Master of karate & friendship for everyone.
Looks like he wore 23 in Japan. That's not going to be available.
Fighter of the Nightman. Champion of the sun. Master of karate & friendship for everyone.
He also wore #1 at one point.
Which also isn’t available.
"I'm here to talk about the economy today -- about the need to get four quarters of strong, consistent performance. That wasn't another Jay Cutler joke, I swear. It could be, but it's not."
naw...
he should have a really long number. first 8 digit number in the history of the brewers
by PagsBrewCrew on Dec 18, 2011 6:42 AM CST up reply actions
I want an Aoki #turtle jersey
Packers: Working on a dynasty.
Blackhawks: Taking care of business as usual.
Badgers:Back-to-back B1G Champions!
Brewers: Move along, nothin' to see here.
I remember reading that "Ichiro" was some sort of publicity deal..
Because Suzuki is such a common name, someone on the Blue Wave staff or in the front office thought the switch to Ichiro would help attract people.
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Dec 17, 2011 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
this exactly
Orix was trying to generate hype for their legitimately hype-able player.
Also, yes, there are lots of people in Japan named Suzuki. Considering that there are currently 2 Suzukis in MLB and only one is a Japanese import it’s pretty telling. (Ichiro, unfortunately, seems to be at the point of his career where Kurt may have the better season. >_<)
On the highlight video his jersey has Aoki.
"I'm here to talk about the economy today -- about the need to get four quarters of strong, consistent performance. That wasn't another Jay Cutler joke, I swear. It could be, but it's not."
Maybe teams will need to put an Aoki shift in place...
Also, I can’t find the article now, but I am pretty sure he was one of the players interviewed in a New York Times feature on how the dimension/weight of the official NPB baseball had changed.
for pitchers, it has become easier to get pitches to break more noticeably. For hitters, not so much fun…
Patrick Newman’s npbtracker is a good place to do some reading, though. I’m just going to go back through all of the archives and try to get a sense of what happened with him.
Here’s a basic database on Aoki for anyone who hasn’t used it before. That’s where they sent me on b-ref!
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Dec 17, 2011 9:44 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I had to rec' this, by the way!
It’s the first time I was able to think about the Brewers and not feel sad after less than a minute went by….
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Dec 17, 2011 9:55 PM CST reply actions
Hajime mashite, new outfield Brewer dude
Slap-hitter with contact skills and a bit of pop? Yes please. But better yet, that catch at 8:30 on the highlight reel…together with some of the other defensive plays…makes me think that this guy could be a potential upgrade/replacement for either of the platoon twins in center. Arm or no, he can’t throw any worse than Nyjer or wildly than Gomez.
Wonder what Morgan could bring in trade — a solid arm to round out the bullpen perhaps? Everyone loves Plush, but selling high might not be the worst idea in the world…
by Dave Nilsson's Didgeridoo on Dec 17, 2011 11:51 PM CST reply actions
Nyjer is really underrated (even on this site?), I don't think we should trade him.
I think his personality obscures the value he actually bring as a player. One of the reasons Milwaukee got him for basically nothing in the first place.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
Bad news is...
He’ll be 30, coming off of a down year, facing better pitching.
Good news is… His down year was hitting .290
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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Dec 18, 2011 12:23 AM CST reply actions
Swallows.
Hee hee.
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by GoCrew on Dec 18, 2011 12:28 AM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Plush + Sushi = Aoki
Been as big a fan of Nyjer Morgan as anyone since his crazy breakout 2009 season helped me trounce my fantasy baseball league…and when he was being dangled as trade bait by the Nats last spring, I was 120% for Melvin bringing the guy to Milwaukee. And he certainly was an integral contributor to the Brewers’ success in 2011.
That said, a few things to keep in mind:
(1) Morgan’s offense AND defense dropped off toward the end of the year, and went over a cliff in the postseason. Regression to the mean might account for some of it…and his career numbers do suggest that explanation to some extent, at least with his hitting (not sure how to explain away the defensive lapses that piled up at the end of the year,, though)..but it’s something to wonder about, especially in connection with-
(2) Morgan’s volatility. Whether any of us wants to admit it, the biggest pre-Braun embarrassment of 2011 was Nyjer’s Hyde-like transformation from lovable clown to powderkeg…and let’s not even rehash what his antics did to galvanize LaRussa’s crew. Not saying he’s a bad guy, and likewise not saying it’s inevitable that things will go bad again as they did in his last two stops — but it might be wise to keep those possibilities in mind when weighing the stay-or-trade options.
by Dave Nilsson's Didgeridoo on Dec 18, 2011 12:44 AM CST reply actions
Morgan hit .292/.400/.389 in September.
That’s a higher OPS than he ended the season with.
by Noah Jarosh on Dec 18, 2011 12:50 AM CST up reply actions
He did put up a .179/.281/.531 line in the postseason though.
Small sample size and all, but depends on how you define end of the year in this case.
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He also had the biggest hit of the postseason, fwiw.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
His offensive numbers last season weren't out of line with his career numbers.
And the “powderkeg” thing is as tired as it is meaningless. What “meltdown” are we waiting for? Plenty of players in the majors have started fights. Prince Fielder got into a fight with his own teammate, but I don’t think anybody’s going to hold that against him this winter (I certainly wouldn’t).
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by SRB on Dec 18, 2011 1:19 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I hope it doesn't happen...
… but I don’t think having someone else besides Gomez ready to go if it does is a bad idea. Fielder basically had 2 incidents in his time with Milwaukee, and both of them were several years ago. He also overtly expressed concern about how he was perceived and a desire to do things differently. Morgan’s had more than 2 incidents and, as far as I can tell, doesn’t see any need to change. I don’t think your comparison is apt. I love Morgan as much as any one and I’ll always be grateful for 2011, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he both regressed and did something stupid that got himself suspended next season. If he’s not happy, he doesn’t play as well. Last year he was happy. Hopefully he will be this year too…
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 18, 2011 8:08 AM CST up reply actions
Google Translate News!!!!
Aoki, the Brewers win the Yakult
Yakult 18, posting system (bidding) parent declared outfielder Aoki Major League aims to transfer using (29) winning baseball team has announced the Brewers.
Yakult was $ 2.5 million bid from Nippon Professional Baseball through the Major Mechanism in 17 days (about 200 million yen) was notified and had to reply and accept the same day. Brewers got a 30-day exclusive negotiating rights.
Headquartered in Milwaukee Brewers are in the area belong to the National League. Played a division title this season.
Yakult outfielder Aoki, parents declared, "You have to bid on great teams, I am honored. That the future is left to the agent, would like to think my preparation firm to concentrate on training The "
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
shouldn't he play for the reds or indians then?
hmmm…i just realized that both ohio teams baseball are using native american based team names…
by PagsBrewCrew on Dec 18, 2011 6:48 AM CST up reply actions
Possible opening day lineup? (if the bad thing happens)
CF – N. Morgan
LF – N. Aoki
RF – C. Hart
3B – A. Ramirez
2B – R. Weeks
1B – M. Gamel
C – J. Lucroy
SS – A. Gonzalez
SP – Y. Gallardo
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
That lineup is more than capable of carrying this team for the 25 or 50 games it would take for Braun to come back.
Provided Aoki and Gamel actually hit at this level.
Fighter of the Nightman. Champion of the sun. Master of karate & friendship for everyone.
This is one of the weirdest moves ever.
Melvin doesn’t go after a SS which the team actually needs and basically makes it sound like they would be stupid for bidding on him, then they go after an outfielder…. I really don’t understand this unless there’s a trade in the works that we don’t know about.
I have no concept.
Reasonably
assuming they come to terms with Aoki at all, he could be the trade. I’m not sure how public bids are before a winner is announced, but I think the Brewers may have been a little surprised to win the rights to negotiate.
I doubt the Brewers would bid unless they wanted him.
Yankees can afford to send out flier bids and then see what happens, but if the Brewers are putting down money they probably want the guy.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
It's just a bid though, isn't it?
They don’t actually transfer the 2.5 million unless they actually sign him as I understand it, so they haven’t spent any money yet.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 18, 2011 8:16 AM CST up reply actions
Here's a theory.
They didn’t go after Nakajima because they thought his asking price would be through the roof, and they were surprised by how small the winning bid was. So when Aoki came up, Melvin said “what the hell”, put in a bid roughly the same as the one that won Nakajima and voila! And now he’ll try to figure out how much it will take to actually get him here and whether or not there’s a trade to be made…
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 18, 2011 8:14 AM CST up reply actions
That’s what the Yankees did. The Yankees really didn’t need a SS (though they will likely keep him as a utility guy to replace Eric Chavez) and could have used the backup OF. I’m actually really surprised Aoki cost that little. Not surprised at all about Nakajima.
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I was under the impression that our left fielder would be available for most of this season...
…and that he’d be available for the next 9 years or so.
I can’t see them spending 3M to fill a 25-50 day gap. Maybe to replace hart?
That report says that he can't play CF in the majors
but I saw another quote that said that he has a “fringe average arm” but great accuracy. He’s also supposed to be a great defensive CF. I’m kind of wondering if they expect Nyjer to regress or are getting sick of his attitude.
"I'm here to talk about the economy today -- about the need to get four quarters of strong, consistent performance. That wasn't another Jay Cutler joke, I swear. It could be, but it's not."
4th inning sake
and another in the seventh
will be an easy adjustment.
in the abscence of fielder,
i like the tinkering going on.
by Rob Deer For President on Dec 18, 2011 9:46 AM CST reply actions
I wonder if Braun's hearing will be within 30 days
Smart, time-buying move by Melvin. I’d be surprised if they sign him if Braun’s cleared, although I guess they’d lose leverage if the suspension is upheld.
by The Left Button on Dec 18, 2011 11:03 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I assume that until Braun's possible suspension is resolved
Then Aoki is a likely starter in LF until Braun comes back and then Melvin hopefully will be able to trade for what is required.
If Braun gets the suspension lifted then Melvin has a surplus of outfielders to trade from before the start of the season.
Maybe it will be possible to trade with the Padres,Giants or Mariners for a 1B.
I don’t know if the Brewers can sign Aoki and then trade him right away, I take it that any trade would have to involve Gomez,Morgan or Hart
So, basically, this guy is Ichiro
I wonder why people are making that comparison?
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by Charlie Marlow on Dec 18, 2011 12:02 PM CST reply actions
Must have missed it.
I wonder why people are making that comparison?
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by Charlie Marlow on Dec 18, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Two comments on him from that NPB blog
From Oct. 30:
Norichika Aoki’s name as re-emerged in the posting rumor mill, courtesy of Nikkan Sports. I had kind of written him off as an MLB prospect, partly because Yakult has seemed so unwilling to post him, but mostly because his numbers fell off so badly this year (.292/.358/.360 this year, after .358/.435/.509 last season).
From July 26:
Posting rumors involving Aoki were once common but have really died down over the last few years. There was some reporting that he was going to ask to be posted last offseason, but nothing came of it. It seems pretty clear that Yakult wants to hang on to him, so my take is that it’s highly unlikely that Aoki will be posted this offseason. If he was, his MLB value would be questionable. In this year’s depressed offensive environment, Aoki has largely held on to his on-base skills, but seen his power decline significantly. After regularly slugging around .500 over the last several years, Aoki has just 12 extra base hits (no home runs) in 292 at bats this season, for a .363 rate.
At $9 million, Hart's contract can move
When Melvin signed him to the extension, he basically signed for fair free agent value. That means Hart’s contract is tradeable without having to pick up any of his salary. The might be willing to trade some pop in the lineup to finally get a natural leadoff hitter. For all I know, Aoki will cost $5 million / year, but even if he comes in at $3.5 million / year, the Brewers would be saving $3 million this year from moving Hart and probably get a decent prospect in return.
Is Aoki going to be content to be a 4th OF in the majors? Even if we assume the worst-case and Braun is out for 50 games, why would Aoki agree to come over to the U.S. to be a back-up fielder for 2/3 of the season? It doesn’t seem like a satisfying career move. Of course, KRod needs to be a closer … unless there’s more money in being a set up man).
If the Brewers went with an OF of Aoki, Gomez, Morgan, Brewers pitching would only give up 8 doubles all year. That would have to be the best defensive OF in all of baseball.
I agree with you on Hart. I don't see him with the team in 2013. 1 year - $10M is a desirable contract for a player of his value
We should be able to get something decent in return next offseason.
And they'd be lucky to hit 10 HR between the three of them.
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by DEUCE SLUICE on Dec 18, 2011 7:57 PM CST up reply actions
Small ball + defense isn't a bad strategy given the Brewers' dominant pitching.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
Any word on what the expected time til the signing?
Are we talking like any day or like a month?
by Rabbit915 on Dec 18, 2011 6:12 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Not to be redundant but is there any word on whether it’s going to take that whole time or just a few days? Just curious how many times a day I should be opening BCB a day waiting for news.
by Rabbit915 on Dec 18, 2011 6:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Look at it this way. They probably won't work out a deal until they know what's going on with Braun.
Braun’s hearing will come before the 30 day negotiation period ends. I’d guess that the Brewers would wait until after that to finalize a deal.
(Not sure if anyone else mentioned this)
But from what I understand the Brewers won’t officially be awarded the rights to negotiate until Thursday, when it is announced to both clubs by the office of the commissioner. As mentioned, I wonder if it will depend on what happens with Braun, if something is to happen within the next month.
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by icecreamman on Dec 18, 2011 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
I'm going absolutely nuts trying to find out what they'll do with him
Will Hart move to first and he’ll play right? That’s what I’d like. Plush leading off and Aoki hitting second would be amazing, or vice versa. I keep hearing that Hart won’t move though and paying 2.5 mil just to talk to a 4th outfielder seems nuts. What is the mustache planning!?
(Verb) you cardinals.
Lo, and Mark said to Doug: "Make it rain."
And Doug made it rain.
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by DEUCE SLUICE on Dec 18, 2011 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
Doug Melvin: "Wait, this isn't that shortstop guy? Shit."
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by SRB on Dec 18, 2011 8:31 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
They only pay if they come to terms with Aoki
Otherwise, the American teams wouldn’t bid as much since there’s a non-zero chance the player wouldn’t sign. It would give all the leverage to the players and would give the Japanese teams some incentive to cheat the system.
by ecocd on Dec 18, 2011 10:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nice
signing by y’all. Definitely jealous.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Dec 18, 2011 11:13 PM CST reply actions
You can never have too many rangey outfielders!
It will be nice to have a real shortstop, too.
FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.
by Jess'HittheBall on Dec 18, 2011 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
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| W | L | PCT | GB | STRK | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Cincinnati
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25 | 20 | .555 | 0 | Lost 1 |
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St. Louis
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25 | 21 | .543 | 0.5 | Lost 2 |
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Houston
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22 | 23 | .488 | 3 | Won 4 |
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Pittsburgh
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21 | 24 | .466 | 4 | Won 1 |
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Milwaukee
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19 | 26 | .422 | 6 | Won 2 |
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Chicago
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15 | 30 | .333 | 10 | Lost 10 |
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